In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Carey Frisch [MVP]
<cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com>
wrote
on Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:20:36 -0500
<elSvJvX8HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>:
> Price an identical basic Dell desktop system w/17" LCD monitor with
> Windows Vista and then Ubuntu, you'll see the Ubuntu system is actually
> $10 more ($549-U vs. $539-V). Dell fully supports Vista at no charge
> while it does not support Dell PCs w/Ubuntu installed.
>
> Again, Windows Vista is the clear winner!
Well, lessee.
Inspiron 530N. Basic desktop, starts at $549. E2140 processor,
Ubuntu 7.04 w/no support, 17" ViewSonic VA1703wb LCD,
512 MB SDDR2 667MHz RAM, 1 160 GB SATA@7200 RPM, 48x optical CD-RW/DVD,
128 MB NVIDIA GeForce 8300GS, integrated crap audio, standard
keyboard/mouse, no floppy drive, no optional 1394a.
$549.
Inspiron 530s. Basic desktop, starts at $599. E4300 process (oops,
delta), uninstalled FreeDOS, 19 inch monitor (oops, delta, +$20),
1 GB Dual DDR2 667 MHz RAM (oops, delta), 250 GB SATA @7200 (oops, delta)
.... never mind clearly this is more desktop, and I can't make
them match without more work.
Inspiron 530 w/Windows. Basic desktop, starts at $369.
Celeron 420 upgrade to E2140 +$110.
Genuine Home Basic. No monitor add 17" VA1703wb +$170.
1GB DDR2 667 MHz SDRAM (oops, delta).
.... never mind clearly this is now more desktop.
Dell's playing games here again.
There is another interesting quirk. There is an Inspiron
530 open source desktop however, I can't get a compatible
microprocessor between Dell's offerings.
530N (ubuntu): E2140, E216, E4300.
530 (freedos): E4300, E6320, E6420.
530s (freedos): E4300, E6320, E6420.
530 (Windows): Celeron 420, E2140, E2160, E440, E4500, E6550.
530 w/mon (Windows): E4400, E4500, E6550.
Apples and oranges and bananas and celery sticks.
As usual, caveat emptor.
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> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
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> "bob" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:31:49 -0400, Cpl Kronk wrote:
>
>> "norm" <noone@afakeddomain.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23C9LJvW8HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>>> If Dell sells an open sores, low demand, operating system such as Linux,
>>>> then they would be required to offer customer technical support for it.
>>>> Image the huge expense of training and maintaining support personnel for
>>>> Linux, especially with the wide variety of Linux versions available and
>>>> steep customer learning curve.
>>>>
>>>> Dell is in the business of trying to make a profit. If their business
>>>> model
>>>> shows supporting Linux is a money loser, good business sense would
>>>> naturally dictate dropping Linux as a low-demand, unprofitable product.
>>>
>>> And selling machines with windows is any different in terms of having to
>>> provide customer technical support personnel for the os?
>>
>> Except that everyone already knows how to use and support Windows so its
>> easier.
>>
>
> That's nonsense.
>
>>
>>> And fwiw, dell is not selling computers with a wide variety of linux
>>> versions. It is selling computers with unbuntu.
>>
>> What's an unbuntu? I thought Dell was shipping some computers with linux.
>
> Ignorance is not your friend.
>
Indeed.
http://www.ubuntu.com/
might help in curing some of it, though. -)
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