No Mention Of Linux In Dell Sept Catalog

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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Bill Yanaire
<bill@yanaire.com>
wrote
on Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:45:40 -0700
<#3Y5AAZ8HHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>:
>
> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:osd3e3d5blr43rkd5lnmc5ipgvlgs6a0o2@4ax.com...
>> Adam Albright wrote:
>>
>>>Linux sounds like a cheap Chinese knock off of Lego building blocks
>>>with lead paint.

>>
>> Is flaunting your ignorance something you enjoy doing?

>
> What ignorance? He said it sounds like something. There is no ignorance
> there!
>


No, just guilt by association. The Mattel recall of
Chinese toys for, among other things, lead paint,
has been much in the news lately.

However, I doubt anything from the LEGO Group was
among them (especially since they're based in Denmark).
One would be surprised how much work goes into fabricating
LEGO bricks, and the subsequent work of getting them into
the right boxes the process is highly automated.

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Michael Solomon wrote:
>
>
> <olsen1960@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1189179222.446754.194830@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 7, 10:27 am, Alias <iamal...@shoesgmail.com> wrote:
>> olsen1...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Sep 7, 10:06 am, Alias <iamal...@shoesgmail.com> wrote:
>> >> dont.pull...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>> Here is the online version of the September Dell Catalog that was
>> >>> mailed out last week.
>> >>>http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/catalog?c=us&cs=19&l...

>>
>> >>> Not a single mention of Linux ANYWHERE in the catalog.
>> >>> Maybe the online version of the catalog is different but a quick look
>> >>> shows it looks the same.
>> >>> All kinds of back to school, business, college, student stuff and

>> Dell
>> >>> Reccomends MICOROSFT VISTA logos EVERYWHERE.
>> >>> So where is this great push of Linux Dell is supposedly doing?
>> >>> Where the hell are they hiding it?
>> >>> And why?
>> >>> Maybe Dell knows full well that Linux as a desktop system is about as
>> >>> in demand as Bubonic Plague.
>> >>> Expect Dell to quietly dump Linux, if they haven't already because
>> >>> it's difficult to tell.
>> >> You're so fuçking stupid:

>>
>> >>http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/emea/segments/gen...

>>
>>
>> >> Oops.

>>
>> >> --
>> >> Alias
>> >> To email me, remove shoes

>>
>> > Actually you're the one who looks stupid.

>>
>> > He is talking about the catalog that gets mailed out to homes and
>> > which there is also an online version.
>> > He does not say Linux isn't mentioned on the website at all, only the
>> > catalog.

>>
>> You missed where he said "online catalog"?
>>
>>
>>
>> > Learn to read before making an a$$ of yourself.

>>
>> He implied that Dell no longer sells computers and they will dump it and
>> other sordid lies.
>>
>> --
>> Alias
>> To email me, remove shoes

>
> Baloney...
> Stop trying to squirm out of your mistake.
> He clearly says:
>
> "Here is the online version of the September Dell Catalog that was
> mailed out last week."
>
>>

> Yes, but later in the post he says the following:
>
> "All kinds of back to school, business, college, student stuff and Dell
> Reccomends MICOROSFT VISTA logos EVERYWHERE.
>
> So where is this great push of Linux Dell is supposedly doing?
> Where the hell are they hiding it?
> And why?
>
> Maybe Dell knows full well that Linux as a desktop system is about as
> in demand as Bubonic Plague.
>
> Expect Dell to quietly dump Linux, if they haven't already because
> it's difficult to tell."
>
> That's more than implication, that's a conclusion. Alias' remarks were
> over the top and he admitted that and apologized. Nonetheless, a search
> of Dell's site confirms Linux is available for those who want it:
> http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?s=gen&c=us&l=en&cs=&k=Linux&cat=prod
>
> Dell is in the business of selling computers and the information at
> their website, their U.S. website, seems to indicate, they will continue
> to sell Linux systems to those who want them but, based on the lack of
> mention in their catalog, either mailed or online, it also appears they
> realize most of those who want it will either request it or search for
> it at their site. If I was in the same "half a penny" business as the
> PC business in general, I wouldn't want to turn away Linux users
> either. That's not an endorsement, it means, in the interest of good
> business, if the demand is there, they will offer it and they still seem
> to be doing so.
>
>

You have said it as it needs to be said: "it means, in the interest of
good business, if the demand is there, they will offer it and they still
seem to be doing so."
This whole dell open source issue seems to boil down to purely a
business decision by dell, as you have pointed out. Those who are
critical or disparaging of dell and the decision to sell systems with
ubuntu most likely have not read the following from the dell open source
site:
Welcome to Dell Open Source
You asked, we listened. For advanced users and tech enthusiasts, we’re
happy to offer a new open-source operating system, so you can dive in
and truly enjoy a PC experience just the way you want it. In addition to
the FreeDOS systems we already offer, we are proud to announce PCs with
Ubuntu.
Not sure Open Source is for You?
The main thing to note is that when you choose open source you don’t get
a Windows® operating system. If you’re here by mistake and you are
looking for a Dell PC with Windows, please use the following link.
Shop Dell PCs with Windows
Already an Open Source fan?
Choose from the following two options to get started, or keep reading to
learn more about our open source offerings.
Shop For Ubuntu Shop For FreeDOS

They are merely offering choice, hopefully making some bucks by doing
so, and not trying to change the world.

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"Cpl Kronk" <kronkme@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> "norm" <noone@afakeddomain.net> wrote in message
> news:%23C9LJvW8HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>> If Dell sells an open sores, low demand, operating system such as Linux,
>>> then they would be required to offer customer technical support for it.
>>> Image the huge expense of training and maintaining support personnel for
>>> Linux, especially with the wide variety of Linux versions available and
>>> steep customer learning curve.
>>>
>>> Dell is in the business of trying to make a profit. If their business
>>> model
>>> shows supporting Linux is a money loser, good business sense would
>>> naturally dictate dropping Linux as a low-demand, unprofitable product.

>>
>> And selling machines with windows is any different in terms of having to
>> provide customer technical support personnel for the os?

>
> Except that everyone already knows how to use and support Windows so its
> easier.
>
>
>> And fwiw, dell is not selling computers with a wide variety of linux
>> versions. It is selling computers with unbuntu.

>
> What's an unbuntu? I thought Dell was shipping some computers with linux.
>

An Ubuntu is like when you need to go to the bathroom, you push and push,
but nothing comes out! Just FYI.


>
>
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Spanketh ThyMonkey wrote:

> when you need to go to the bathroom, you push and push,
> but nothing comes out! Just FYI.


Try eating more oatmeal ...


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Bill Yanaire wrote:
> I remember going through my divorce. She was the Petitioner and I was the
> Respondant. Thanks for the memory. We were married 18 years, a few of them
> good!
>
>
> "Respondant" <Respondant@noemail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:m6qdnbu_1MS4KXzbnZ2dnUVZ_qOknZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>
>>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>> news:bub3e3l6udsppgn6thrminc0ct3i3203a3@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:23:58 -0500, DanS
>>>> <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>> news:pan.2007.09.07.18.14.11.650452@tiscali.co.uk:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:55:56 -0400, Cpl Kronk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW - Congrats on getting your clock working correctly. Did you
>>>>>>> need to rebuild your kernel or was simply editing some .rc files
>>>>>>> and running modprobe enough to get it working properly?
>>>>>> Of course not - why on Earth would I need to do somethig as
>>>>>> complicated as that? You really *are* ignorant about Linux, aren't
>>>>>> you?
>>>>> Because most ARE that ignorant of Linux, if they even know what it
>>>>> is.
>>>> Linux sounds like a cheap Chinese knock off of Lego building blocks
>>>> with lead paint.
>>> I better go check the kids room. Wouldn't want them playing with
>>> Linux!

>> It's not THAT big a deal,. There's nothing worthwhile for them to play
>> with anyway. :-) Just make sure ya keep 'em out of your Windows
>> partition. You DO know how to dual-boot, right? Oh wait. What am I
>> saying? Pretty much every Linux user started with Windows and (despite
>> never admitting to it) STILL has SOME version of Windows laying around on
>> a partition somewhere. You know. Just so "the kids" can "play" with it.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Bill
>>


She divorced you?!? I can't imagine why <g>! )

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"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
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> olsen1960@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sep 7, 10:06 am, Alias <iamal...@shoesgmail.com> wrote:
>>> dont.pull...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Here is the online version of the September Dell Catalog that was
>>>> mailed out last week.
>>>> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/catalog?c=us&cs=19&l...
>>>> Not a single mention of Linux ANYWHERE in the catalog.
>>>> Maybe the online version of the catalog is different but a quick look
>>>> shows it looks the same.
>>>> All kinds of back to school, business, college, student stuff and Dell
>>>> Reccomends MICOROSFT VISTA logos EVERYWHERE.
>>>> So where is this great push of Linux Dell is supposedly doing?
>>>> Where the hell are they hiding it?
>>>> And why?
>>>> Maybe Dell knows full well that Linux as a desktop system is about as
>>>> in demand as Bubonic Plague.
>>>> Expect Dell to quietly dump Linux, if they haven't already because
>>>> it's difficult to tell.
>>> You're so fuçking stupid:
>>>
>>> http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/emea/segments/gen...
>>>
>>> Oops.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias
>>> To email me, remove shoes

>>
>> Actually you're the one who looks stupid.
>>
>> He is talking about the catalog that gets mailed out to homes and
>> which there is also an online version.
>> He does not say Linux isn't mentioned on the website at all, only the
>> catalog.

>
> You missed where he said "online catalog"?
>
>>
>> Learn to read before making an a$$ of yourself.
>>

>
> He implied that Dell no longer sells computers and they will dump it and
> other sordid lies.


Dell no longer sells computers? Wow, that -is- news.

Lang

>
> --
> Alias
> To email me, remove shoes
 
"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> schreef in bericht
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> Top-posting idiot Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>
>>Price an identical basic Dell desktop system w/17" LCD monitor with
>>Windows Vista and then Ubuntu, you'll see the Ubuntu system is actually
>>$10 more ($549-U vs. $539-V). Dell fully supports Vista at no charge
>>while it does not support Dell PCs w/Ubuntu installed.

>
> Yeah, we know that Micro$oft "incentives", combined with fees paid to
> OEM's to pre-load a bunch of unwanted crapware, can negate Linux' cost
> advantage.
>
>>Again, Windows Vista is the clear winner!

>
> If you're a loser.
>
> To anyone with a brain, Visduh is about the worst OS ever foisted upon
> the market. If it weren't for Micro$oft's monopoly power, which
> allows them to force it upon the OEM's, only a small number of the
> curious and the foolish would be using it.
>
>>--
>>Carey Frisch
>>Microsoft MVP
>>Windows Shell/User

>
> Too stupid to do a delimiter correctly, eh top-poster?
>
>


Ignore the forging nym-shifting troll who pretends to be chrisv!
 
<cross-post removed>

"chrisv" whined...
> To anyone with a brain, Visduh is about the worst OS ever foisted upon
> the market. If it weren't for Micro$oft's monopoly power, which
> allows them to force it upon the OEM's, only a small number of the
> curious and the foolish would be using it.
>


"What would you do with a brain if you had one?"
---Dorothy in The Wizard of OZ

Just the opposite, IMHO! Vista has improved on many things I used to find
completely frustrating, such as restarting Explorer automatically instead of
just BSOD until I forced the whole system to reboot, added built-in security
features (customer request?) like firewall, pop-up blocker, Anti-Spyware,
all included, and an added layer of system protection that prevents foolish
newbies from deleting critical system files that they think they don't need.
After the majority of the bugs are patched, more compatible drivers are
written, third party software catches up, etc., I believe _some_ office
net/sys admins will start using Vista to "user-proof" the corporate network.
<VBG>
 
"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> said
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> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> schreef in bericht
> news:h093e31barf3mc1q374ddo75ic147o36ll@4ax.com...

<snipped>

> Ignore the forging nym-shifting troll who pretends to be chrisv!


Imposters are a dime a dozen. If you find yourself being mimicked, then you
might eventually find out the monkeys caused you to be killfiled. I just
kept changing my screenname at first, but I finally gave up. Be anonymous
and try to keep a low profile, limit the number of newsgroups you use with
each "fake id" (I use 5) and move on to bigger and better things. Above all,
remember that imitation is the highest form of flattery! You have a fan
club! <VBG>
 
After takin' a swig o' grog, Carey Frisch [MVP] belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User


ROTFLMAO

http://microscum.com/carey/

http://www.leinss.com/blog/?m=200606

On every message board you will find MS-MVP Carey Frisch quoting
links to WGA articles. Here is a message from Carey Frisch: it's
the professionalism I enjoy.

...

Don't be surprised that one day, upon downloading an update from
the Windows Update site, that upon reboot, you cannot access your
XP O/S because it was an unauthorized, pirated version. And
you'll have no legal leg to stand on. This has already happened
with those running a pirated version of Office 2000. Download and
install SP1 for Office 2000 and one can no longer open the
program. And Microsoft has every right to do this.
 
<here@home.again> schreef in bericht
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> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> said
> news:20070908150504.B6E001C00085@mwinf6112.orange.nl...
>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> schreef in bericht
>> news:h093e31barf3mc1q374ddo75ic147o36ll@4ax.com...

> <snipped>
>
>> Ignore the forging nym-shifting troll who pretends to be chrisv!

>
> Imposters are a dime a dozen. If you find yourself being mimicked, then
> you might eventually find out the monkeys caused you to be killfiled. I
> just kept changing my screenname at first, but I finally gave up. Be
> anonymous and try to keep a low profile, limit the number of newsgroups
> you use with each "fake id" (I use 5) and move on to bigger and better
> things. Above all, remember that imitation is the highest form of
> flattery! You have a fan club! <VBG>

OK, your a troll!
*plonk*
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=author:chrisv+plonk&qt_s=Search
 
here@home.again wrote:

> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> said
> news:20070908150504.B6E001C00085@mwinf6112.orange.nl...
>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> schreef in bericht
>> news:h093e31barf3mc1q374ddo75ic147o36ll@4ax.com...

> <snipped>
>
>> Ignore the forging nym-shifting troll who pretends to be chrisv!

>
> Imposters are a dime a dozen. If you find yourself being mimicked, then
> you might eventually find out the monkeys caused you to be killfiled. I
> just kept changing my screenname at first, but I finally gave up. Be
> anonymous and try to keep a low profile, limit the number of newsgroups
> you use with each "fake id" (I use 5) and move on to bigger and better
> things. Above all, remember that imitation is the highest form of
> flattery! You have a fan club! <VBG>


Well, you are naturally right that imposters are about the lowest scum
possible on usenet.
What you have not realized yet is that you talked to the imposter.
Free clue: Whenever you see "dizum" in the header, it is a Kadaitcha Toddler
felcher.
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Please try to stay in COLA, Linonut.

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No, I never made any such statements. I see you have
quoted the statement(s) from untrustworthy, bogus web sites.
Nothing you referenced and posted is factual!

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--------------------------------------------------------------------

"Linonut" wrote:

After takin' a swig o' grog, Carey Frisch [MVP] belched out this bit o'
wisdom:

> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User


ROTFLMAO

http://microscum.com/notcarey/

http://www.leinss.com/blog/?m=200606

On every message board you will find MS-MVP Carey Frisch quoting
links to WGA articles. Here is a message from Carey Frisch: it's
the professionalism I enjoy.

...

Don't be surprised that one day, upon downloading an update from
the Windows Update site, that upon reboot, you cannot access your
XP O/S because it was an unauthorized, pirated version. And
you'll have no legal leg to stand on. This has already happened
with those running a pirated version of Office 2000. Download and
install SP1 for Office 2000 and one can no longer open the
program. And Microsoft has every right to do this.
 
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> No, I never made any such statements. I see you have
> quoted the statement(s) from untrustworthy, bogus web sites.
> Nothing you referenced and posted is factual!
>


Certainly not. After all, you are a MVP

In other words, you know nothing at all about computers
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