Ubuntu security vulnerabilities

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The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy
[Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:14:08 -0500] wrote:

>Marco Desloovere wrote:
>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:18:57 -0500] wrote:
>>
>>> If it's fixed, it's not a problem if you update. If it's not a patched
>>> vulnerability, you are stuck with the problem weather you like it or
>>> not. MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in their OSes (Vista and XP). If
>>> Ubuntu has all of it's known vulnerabilites patched (at least all the
>>> ones on that page are), I would much prefer to run Ubuntu from a
>>> security standpoint.
>>
>> Could you show me an example of an unpatched security vulnerability in
>> Windows Vista?
>>
>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for
>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities
>> found".
>>
>> Marco
>
>Try searching for vendor MS and title vista, then hit search.

On which other web site or using which tool?
I already searched on Security Focus.

Remember it was *your* claim that "MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in
their OSes (Vista and XP)".

Marco
 
Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy
[Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:

>Marco Desloovere wrote:
>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:
>>
>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for Ubuntu.
>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:
>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:
>>>>
>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...
>>>> |
>>>> | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose said about
>>>> | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.
>>>> |
>>>> | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me, visit the
>>>> | Ubuntu forums or Google.
>>>> |
>>>> | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing from this ng.
>>>> |
>>>> | --
>>>> | Alias
>>>>
>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a troll full
>>>> of lies.
>>>>
>>>> Marco
>>> Hypocrite!
>>
>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young hormones ("My
>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing weird things to
>> his developing mind...
>>
>> Marco
>
>I was talking about you, not him.

How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?
Don't shoot the messenger!

Marco
 
DanS [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:49:16 -0500] wrote:

>The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy
><nonee@none.not> wrote in news:faig01$od6$1@aioe.org:
>
>>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for
>>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities
>>> found".
>>>
>>> Marco
>>
>> Try searching for vendor MS and title vista, then hit search.
>
>And apparently forgot to look at the 6 ones listed for IE7.
>
>You'd have to, since IE is an 'integral part' of the OS, present in every
>install, and still has the highest share of use.

I'm not using Internet Explorer.
I prefer Firefox.

Marco
 
Stephan Rose [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:44:52 -0500] wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:15:43 +0200, Marco Desloovere wrote:
>
>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:18:57 -0500] wrote:
>>
>>>If it's fixed, it's not a problem if you update. If it's not a patched
>>>vulnerability, you are stuck with the problem weather you like it or
>>>not. MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in their OSes (Vista and XP). If
>>>Ubuntu has all of it's known vulnerabilites patched (at least all the
>>>ones on that page are), I would much prefer to run Ubuntu from a
>>>security standpoint.
>>
>> Could you show me an example of an unpatched security vulnerability in
>> Windows Vista?
>>
>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for
>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities
>> found".
>>
>
>Just because a 3rd party website is not aware of any does not mean there
>aren't (or are) any. When I was giving Vista a Trial I received security
>updates via windows update so there obviously were some...but yet that
>site shows none...

OK, fair enough, so where are these unpatched Windows Vista security
vulnerabilities right now?

Marco
 
Re: Alias - Correct once

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:46:10 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Charlie Tame wrote:
>
>>
>> The reality is that stopping "Casual" piracy achieves nothing because
>> anybody doing it "Casually" isn't going to buy a couple of hundred
>> dollars worth of CD anyway, they may lash out on a cracked version,
>> stick to what they have until the hardware falls over or get the latest
>> version of Linux for nothing :) Casual pirates will not buy Office or
>> other products that pro users may need so MS's alleged losses are really
>> wildly exaggerated.
>
>And you know all of this to be true because you've spent millions of $'s
>doing market research on the subject of software piracy...is that correct?
>Or is this what you in your little ms hating mind wish were true...lol!
>Frank

Get a grip you brainless dumbass. If as you imply Microsoft spent
millions on marketing research please tell us why they gave us a globe
named START to turn OFF our computers.
 
Marco Desloovere wrote:
> Stephan Rose [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:44:52 -0500] wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:15:43 +0200, Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>
>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:18:57 -0500] wrote:
>>>
>>>> If it's fixed, it's not a problem if you update. If it's not a patched
>>>> vulnerability, you are stuck with the problem weather you like it or
>>>> not. MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in their OSes (Vista and XP). If
>>>> Ubuntu has all of it's known vulnerabilites patched (at least all the
>>>> ones on that page are), I would much prefer to run Ubuntu from a
>>>> security standpoint.
>>> Could you show me an example of an unpatched security vulnerability in
>>> Windows Vista?
>>>
>>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for
>>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities
>>> found".
>>>
>> Just because a 3rd party website is not aware of any does not mean there
>> aren't (or are) any. When I was giving Vista a Trial I received security
>> updates via windows update so there obviously were some...but yet that
>> site shows none...
>
> OK, fair enough, so where are these unpatched Windows Vista security
> vulnerabilities right now?
>
> Marco

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...a+security+vulnerabilities&btnG=Google+Search

Enjoy.

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Re: Alias - Correct once

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:34:54 -0400, Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:

>In article <#rGJeTT5HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net
>says...
>> Hehe, all these posts by so called IT Pros claiming that activation is
>> not a pain in the ass demonstrates that they are IT Pros only in their
>> own minds :)
>
>Charlie, with almost 3000 machines under my control, having activated
>most of them in the last 2 years, same for all of their apps - very few
>are on Volume Licenses, I can honestly say that Activation is less
>painful than turning the computer on and waiting for windows to load.

STILL mindless boasting. Damn fool, get a life!
>
>The only hard part about Activation is getting my eyes to see the
>difference between an 8 and a B or a Q and a O or a G and a 6 on those
>little stickers.
>
>I've only had to activate by phone 3 times in all that time, and it was
>because I used the same key more than once by accident and they still
>approved and activated it.
>
>So, in your limited experience, it appears you've had problems with
>activation, most don't, and while you have issues with it, most don't
>and I would guess that my meager 3000 machines is a few more than you've
>had experience with in your entire life, based on your comments and
>manner of posting.

I LOVE to expose phonies like you that lie their asses off or are just
so damn stupid it is obvious they don't know what they're talking
about.

Check out these article fool.

http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070315/

http://www.aeroxp.org/board/lofiversion/index.php?t5821.html
 
Re: Adam Jerry Lewis holds Charlie Lame Brains Martin's johnson.Adam likes the *boys*at the asylum.

Adam Hopalong aka NG Deputy Barney Fife and aka Jerry Lewis he likes the
*boys* wrote:

>> Charlie Lame Brains aka Dean that can't get the girls wrote:

<snipped>

>
> Step aside Charlie let me grip it for you, you brainless dumbass.
> I showed you a million times you brainless dumbass how to do it in this cell
> we share. When you get done Charlie, make sure you flush, brainless dumbass.
>
 
DanS wrote:
> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy
> <nonee@none.not> wrote in news:faig01$od6$1@aioe.org:
>
>>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for
>>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities
>>> found".
>>>
>>> Marco
>> Try searching for vendor MS and title vista, then hit search.
>
> And apparently forgot to look at the 6 ones listed for IE7.
>
> You'd have to, since IE is an 'integral part' of the OS, present in every
> install, and still has the highest share of use.

Exactly!

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Marco Desloovere wrote:
> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy
> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:14:08 -0500] wrote:
>
>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:18:57 -0500] wrote:
>>>
>>>> If it's fixed, it's not a problem if you update. If it's not a patched
>>>> vulnerability, you are stuck with the problem weather you like it or
>>>> not. MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in their OSes (Vista and XP). If
>>>> Ubuntu has all of it's known vulnerabilites patched (at least all the
>>>> ones on that page are), I would much prefer to run Ubuntu from a
>>>> security standpoint.
>>> Could you show me an example of an unpatched security vulnerability in
>>> Windows Vista?
>>>
>>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for
>>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities
>>> found".
>>>
>>> Marco
>> Try searching for vendor MS and title vista, then hit search.
>
> On which other web site or using which tool?
> I already searched on Security Focus.
>
> Remember it was *your* claim that "MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in
> their OSes (Vista and XP)".
>
> Marco

Yes, but you did not make a complete search on security focus. I'll
repeat the directions for your simple-minded benefit:

"Try vendor MS and title vista, then hit search."

You don't need to fill in any other fields and you will get a list of
results 2 pages long.

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legality."
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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

In article <fajfhp$lb5$2@aioe.org>, Alias <iamalias@shoesgmail.com>
wrote:

> What is it about changing one's mind that you don't understand?

We understand perfectly. It's the mark of a true troll. Make a big,
dramatic announcement that you are "leaving" - because you are so big
and important (in your own mind) that you must "announce" that you are
leaving.

Then come back 2 weeks later. We all knew you couldn't refrain from
annoying people. Again, the mark of a true troll.

Mike
 
Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

In article <el9$RKN5HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote:

> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for Ubuntu.

Of course. True Trolls - like Alias - *never* "stay away" after they
make their big announcement that they are "leaving".

In the first place, no one but a troll makes an announcement that they
are "leaving"! Just stop posting, ferchrissake. Only Trolls think
the are *so* important that they need to "announce" that they are
"unsubscribing from this newsgroup".

Secondly, True Trolls *never* "stay away" after they "announce they are
leaving". They *always* come back. True Trolls just can't resist
annoying people and being, well, Trolls.

Mike
 
Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Marco Desloovere wrote:
> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy
> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:
>
>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for Ubuntu.
>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:
>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:
>>>>>
>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...
>>>>> |
>>>>> | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose said about
>>>>> | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me, visit the
>>>>> | Ubuntu forums or Google.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing from this ng.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | --
>>>>> | Alias
>>>>>
>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a troll full
>>>>> of lies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marco
>>>> Hypocrite!
>>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young hormones ("My
>>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing weird things to
>>> his developing mind...
>>>
>>> Marco
>> I was talking about you, not him.
>
> How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?
> Don't shoot the messenger!
>
> Marco

You are being a hypocrite because you are calling alias a troll for
posting ubuntu stuff, yet you do the same yourself in this very group,
just like Dick (Richard) Urban, MVP did. Dick should stop setting such
a bad example for the rest of the kiddies in this group!

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/msg/8f9e4b23ebc52750

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Mike wrote:
> In article <fajfhp$lb5$2@aioe.org>, Alias <iamalias@shoesgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What is it about changing one's mind that you don't understand?
>
> We understand perfectly. It's the mark of a true troll. Make a big,
> dramatic announcement that you are "leaving" - because you are so big
> and important (in your own mind) that you must "announce" that you are
> leaving.
>
> Then come back 2 weeks later. We all knew you couldn't refrain from
> annoying people. Again, the mark of a true troll.
>
> Mike

If what you write here makes you feel any better, that's great.
Unfortunately, what you wrote is pure and unadulterated bullsh¡t.

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Mike wrote:
> In article <el9$RKN5HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
> "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote:
>
>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for Ubuntu.
>
> Of course. True Trolls - like Alias - *never* "stay away" after they
> make their big announcement that they are "leaving".
>
> In the first place, no one but a troll makes an announcement that they
> are "leaving"! Just stop posting, ferchrissake. Only Trolls think
> the are *so* important that they need to "announce" that they are
> "unsubscribing from this newsgroup".
>
> Secondly, True Trolls *never* "stay away" after they "announce they are
> leaving". They *always* come back. True Trolls just can't resist
> annoying people and being, well, Trolls.
>
> Mike

Mike must think that the ultimate insult on Usenet is to call someone a
troll. Poor, poor Mike.

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To email me, remove shoes
 
Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:48:36 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <el9$RKN5HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
> "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote:
>
>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for Ubuntu.
>
>Of course. True Trolls - like Alias - *never* "stay away" after they
>make their big announcement that they are "leaving".
>
>In the first place, no one but a troll makes an announcement that they
>are "leaving"! Just stop posting, ferchrissake. Only Trolls think
>the are *so* important that they need to "announce" that they are
>"unsubscribing from this newsgroup".
>
>Secondly, True Trolls *never* "stay away" after they "announce they are
>leaving". They *always* come back. True Trolls just can't resist
>annoying people and being, well, Trolls.
>
>Mike

Well doofus, based on your "standards" according to your header in
THIS post you seem to be a trolling as well since you're using a Mac
computer to TROLL a Windows support group.

From little Mike's header it shows:

User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (Intel Mac OS X)

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/13571

You know I'd love to take credit for making idiots like you look
stupid, but to be honest your kind always do all the heavy lifting
yourselves, I simply need to point out what hypocrites you are.

So we can infer it is OK to troll, as long as you don't knock
Microsoft. Thanks for again confirming why I rate you as just another
member of the nitwit club.
 
Re: Adam is the Ubuntu hack in the NG, but he don't know that --too stupid and a *fag*.

Adam Hopalong aka Jerry Lewis and he like the *boys* wrote:
>
> Well I am back, a doofus, based on my "standards" according to the head job
> I am about to give everyone. It seem I am trolling as well since I am *clown*
> and a fag.
>

> You know I'd love to take credit for giving everyone you a blow job.
> To be honest, there is a couple of things I do.
> But, I simply can't get into that publicly.
>
> So can I give everyone a blow job as long as my secret is not out?
> Thanks for again confirming that I am a fag and there are a couple
> of others in my club, but I am not naming names.
>
 
Re: Alias - Correct once

Charlie Tame wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Charlie Tame wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The reality is that stopping "Casual" piracy achieves nothing because
>>> anybody doing it "Casually" isn't going to buy a couple of hundred
>>> dollars worth of CD anyway, they may lash out on a cracked version,
>>> stick to what they have until the hardware falls over or get the
>>> latest version of Linux for nothing :) Casual pirates will not buy
>>> Office or other products that pro users may need so MS's alleged
>>> losses are really wildly exaggerated.
>>
>>
>> And you know all of this to be true because you've spent millions of
>> $'s doing market research on the subject of software piracy...is that
>> correct?
>> Or is this what you in your little ms hating mind wish were true...lol!
>> Frank
>
>
>
> If I hated MS Frank I wouldn't be bothering to point out flaws in their
> marketing strategy.

Flaws in their marketing strategy? And you are a marketing expert...is
that correct?
>
> I have spent a long time in various MS forums but recently a number of
> things have occurred that are going to cost MS eventually.

You're a marketing expert based on your professional marketing
acumen...is that correct?
>
> W2000 was a major leap forward over 98 / ME etc. Very stable, used it
> for a long time. XP was good after SP1 and had a lot of features added.
> Not a huge technological leap forward over 2000 but you got something
> extra and nothing taken out.
>
> Vista has lost OE which worked and had it replaced by a series of very
> poor and much slower substitutes that still create problems for users.
> UAC is "Different" than the old ActiveX warnings etc but really no
> security improvement, just a nuisance. DRM has restricted things for
> legitimate users to the point where using Windows for some media is
> actually more difficult than other systems. Activation has gone off on
> me so many times now it's pointed out the fact that MS systems are NOT
> the way to go for a business than requires reliability, one simply
> becomes dependent on MS too much. Driver signing is another symptom of
> MS enforcing that dependency.

hehehe...maybe you learn how to customize Vista so that i will work the
way you want ti to...that's what I've done to my personal computers. So
I don't have any problems at all with any of the above mentions items.
>
> Basically I lost a number of features I liked and gained "Features" that
> are no improvement, sometimes the opposite, and now have a system that
> runs slower, does less, is no more secure and once occasionally accuses
> me of being a thief whether I did anything to it or not.

What "feature(s)" did you lose?
>
> For a system that's supposed to be easy to use something is wrong with
> this picture Frank.

I know most older users thought that Vista was nothing but XP+eye candy
and have found out it isn't. Plus moving things around has upset some
users old habits and they don't like it!
>
> You know yourself that there is a limit to what security in an OS can
> do. Nobody can stop a stupid user from becoming insecure. MS started off
> with some very bad default settings which they eventually fixed and the
> business systems went even further with IE restrictions. However that
> was as far as they should have gone, after that it IS "User"
> responsibility. Ordinary people are being asked to pay a lot for things
> that most of them dont understand and which make their lives difficult,
> yet actually don't work very well. When people turn up here for a bit of
> help they are often insulted and treated as stupid because they, like
> me, do not understand why a formerly helpful Microsoft has changed
> things around just for the same of it, and (To them) made things much
> more difficult for no obvious reason.

Hummm...you have problems with the EULA don't you?
>
> No matter what the EULA says people BOUGHT the computer and expect it to
> be "THEIR" computer, not yours, or Microsoft's or anybody else's.
> Spending a couple of thousand on hardware has not been too much of a
> problem for me, maybe not for you, but for a great many people it IS a
> problem and they have expectations. Whether these expectations comply
> exactly with the letter of the law or the EULA is not the issue,
> marketing is the issue, and people who are surprised or disappointed
> deserve to have these difficulties explained and if possible improved
> upon, not be treated to a tirade of insults as so often happens in these
> groups. MS have aggravated some problems by their actions and criticims
> need to be raised.

By the very token insulting everything MS, as most frustrated users wind
up doing, is not the answer.
Frank
 
Re: Alias - Correct once

Adam Albright wrote:

>
> Get a grip you brainless dumbass. If as you imply Microsoft spent
> millions on marketing research please tell us why they gave us a globe
> named START to turn OFF our computers.
>

hehehe...so you're the brainless drunken sod who is still using the
"start" button to shut down or restart their computer...lol...is that
correct?
You really are a clueless PUTZ aren't you!
Frank
 

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