Ubuntu, Printers, Scanners and Frank the Wank

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Leythos wrote:
> In article <fv2eoo$gfa$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>>> In article <fv274s$til$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
>>>>
>>>> Now, go read the HUNDREDS of printers that listed and STFU!
>>> Go to the UBUNTU support forums and read the problems people are having
>>> with printers there, take your own advice little boy - STFU.
>>>
>> Didn't read the list, eh? To which forum are you referring?
>
> They have an online community forum, if you were not so dishonest you
> would know that.

They have quite a few.

>
>> The Usenet
>> group doesn't have any printer problems being discussed.
>
> Their web forums does - you can check yourself.

I guess, like you, they didn't do their research.

>
>> Fact is if you
>> do research before buying a printer, you will have a printer that works.
>> The same is true for Vista.
>
> Good of you to finally state something true.
>
> 1) Printer support under Vista is better than Ubuntu when you consider
> more than just a few vendors - if you consider the majority of vendors
> then Vista has more support.

But you have to put up with Vista.

>
> 2) Most Big-Box stores do not carry inexpensive (under $100) printers
> that are supported by Linux, at this time.

My all in one HP cost 70 euros, a bit over $100. Just the printer would
cost 59 euros, under $100, and at a store that has over 200 stores
nationwide. Big Box enough for you?

>
> 3) Supported printers on either platform are no harder to install than
> the other platform.

My all in one was much harder to install on XP than Ubuntu. I haven't
tried it with Vista. Are you saying that Vista has built in software or
do you have to install HP software for the printer and scanner? If the
latter, Ubuntu is MUCH easier to install a printer than Vista. Period.

Alias
 
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Fukkin liar!
>
>
>>
>> Bullsh*t and we all know it.
>>
>> No you dumb ass, he is right and your wrong. This is a Vista ng not a
>> linux ng. You're just lying linux troll.
>> Frank
>
>
> Charming. Does Vista do this to you or did your mama raise you to post
> this way?
>
> Alias

Did your mama (if you even know who she was!) raise you to be the vile,
lying POS excuse for a human being you are?
Frank
 
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias, the lying sheep-fukker wrote:
>>
>> ---------------------------------------
>>
>> You are an idiot aren't you...LOL!
>> Frank
>
>
> Now, there's a convincing argument. NOT!
>
> Alias

Yeah, sheep-fukker...the truth always works!
Loser!
Frank
 
Alias wrote:

> Leythos wrote:
>
>> In article <fv2eoo$gfa$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>>
>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <fv274s$til$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, go read the HUNDREDS of printers that listed and STFU!
>>>>
>>>> Go to the UBUNTU support forums and read the problems people are
>>>> having with printers there, take your own advice little boy - STFU.
>>>>
>>> Didn't read the list, eh? To which forum are you referring?
>>
>>
>> They have an online community forum, if you were not so dishonest you
>> would know that.
>
>
> They have quite a few.
>
>>
>>> The Usenet group doesn't have any printer problems being discussed.
>>
>>
>> Their web forums does - you can check yourself.
>
>
> I guess, like you, they didn't do their research.
>
>>
>>> Fact is if you do research before buying a printer, you will have a
>>> printer that works. The same is true for Vista.
>>
>>
>> Good of you to finally state something true.
>>
>> 1) Printer support under Vista is better than Ubuntu when you consider
>> more than just a few vendors - if you consider the majority of vendors
>> then Vista has more support.
>
>
> But you have to put up with Vista.
>
>>
>> 2) Most Big-Box stores do not carry inexpensive (under $100) printers
>> that are supported by Linux, at this time.
>
>
> My all in one HP cost 70 euros, a bit over $100. Just the printer would
> cost 59 euros, under $100, and at a store that has over 200 stores
> nationwide. Big Box enough for you?
>
>>
>> 3) Supported printers on either platform are no harder to install than
>> the other platform.
>
>
> My all in one was much harder to install on XP than Ubuntu. I haven't
> tried it with Vista. Are you saying that Vista has built in software or
> do you have to install HP software for the printer and scanner? If the
> latter, Ubuntu is MUCH easier to install a printer than Vista. Period.
>
> Alias

What a fukkin liar you are!
But we've all known that now for yrs!
Frank
 
In article <fv2guv$te8$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
> My all in one was much harder to install on XP than Ubuntu. I haven't
> tried it with Vista. Are you saying that Vista has built in software or
> do you have to install HP software for the printer and scanner? If the
> latter, Ubuntu is MUCH easier to install a printer than Vista. Period.

For your statement to be true, vista would have to be harder to install
printers for more than 50% of all printers that it supports, which is
not the case.

Your statement is "reaching" at best, and dishonest, and BS to be sure.

Again, if you had said that SOME printers install easier than under
Vista I would have agreed with you and not posted anything, but you
chose the dishonest path and can't seem to admit you made a mistake.

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Leythos wrote:
> In article <fv2guv$te8$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>> My all in one was much harder to install on XP than Ubuntu. I haven't
>> tried it with Vista. Are you saying that Vista has built in software or
>> do you have to install HP software for the printer and scanner? If the
>> latter, Ubuntu is MUCH easier to install a printer than Vista. Period.
>
> For your statement to be true, vista would have to be harder to install
> printers for more than 50% of all printers that it supports, which is
> not the case.

Answer the question, don't dodge it with a supercilious insult.

>
> Your statement is "reaching" at best, and dishonest, and BS to be sure.

Plugging it into the USB port and it just works vs. installing software,
rebooting and then, maybe, it will work are two different things with
the former being easier than the latter.

>
> Again, if you had said that SOME printers install easier than under
> Vista I would have agreed with you and not posted anything, but you
> chose the dishonest path and can't seem to admit you made a mistake.
>

Again, sigh, when you install a printer with Vista, you do need to
install the printer/scanner software that comes on the CD that comes
with the printer or not? Of course you do, which is why the CD that came
with my new HP says "Windows 2000, XP and Vista". The CD does NOT say
"Ubuntu" because it isn't necessary as the CD is not needed with Ubuntu.
You're saying that there are printers that don't come with software to
install and Vista has the software by default or what beside hurling
unfounded insults a la Frank?

Alias
 
In article <fv357h$pa6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
> Leythos wrote:
> > In article <fv2guv$te8$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
> >> My all in one was much harder to install on XP than Ubuntu. I haven't
> >> tried it with Vista. Are you saying that Vista has built in software or
> >> do you have to install HP software for the printer and scanner? If the
> >> latter, Ubuntu is MUCH easier to install a printer than Vista. Period.
> >
> > For your statement to be true, vista would have to be harder to install
> > printers for more than 50% of all printers that it supports, which is
> > not the case.
>
> Answer the question, don't dodge it with a supercilious insult.

Accept that your statement is not 100% true in all cases, that's the
contention here.

> > Your statement is "reaching" at best, and dishonest, and BS to be sure.
>
> Plugging it into the USB port and it just works vs. installing software,
> rebooting and then, maybe, it will work are two different things with
> the former being easier than the latter.

Funny, I was able to plug in my printers and scanner and it worked
without me having to do anything, not open a single CD, and it just
worked.

> > Again, if you had said that SOME printers install easier than under
> > Vista I would have agreed with you and not posted anything, but you
> > chose the dishonest path and can't seem to admit you made a mistake.
> >
>
> Again, sigh, when you install a printer with Vista, you do need to
> install the printer/scanner software that comes on the CD that comes
> with the printer or not?

And you know this to be true with EVERY printer/scanner on the market,
that you must install non-provided software in order to use EVERY
printer/scanner on the market? If not, then you're telling lies again.

> Of course you do, which is why the CD that came
> with my new HP says "Windows 2000, XP and Vista". The CD does NOT say
> "Ubuntu" because it isn't necessary as the CD is not needed with Ubuntu.
> You're saying that there are printers that don't come with software to
> install and Vista has the software by default or what beside hurling
> unfounded insults a la Frank?

You have to be kidding, Vista INCLUDES printer drivers and worked fine
with my scanner, even the USB scanner, but Ubuntu didn't work with it,
at least not on 7.10, not tried it on the latest version yet.


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"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:26:02 -0700, DarkSentinel wrote:
>
>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>> news:euKdnS4Q2bhJS4zVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:06:52 -0700, DarkSentinel wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:_c-dnXMOT7g5rJLVnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:20:05 -0400, Leythos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <HL6dnRfQqp27EJPVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>>> nospam@spammer.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom line: I don't care if it's XP, Vista, Ubuntu, <insert OS
>>>>>>> here>. Not every device is going to work. Fact of life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I think the bottom line is that More printers, modern, are
>>>>>> supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu, and more printers
>>>>>> that people already have, from the last 4-5 years, are already
>>>>>> supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu.
>>>>>
>>>>> *shrug* that, I can't say.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that HP, Zebra, and I wanna say Brother are all fully
>>>>> supported. I've never encountered any problems with those brands nor
>>>>> have I heard of any problems. Just looking at the available driver
>>>>> list, Epson looks really well too but I have no personal experience
>>>>> with Epson.
>>>>
>>>> If you have been using Linux for any length of time, you KNOW that
>>>> printer support has never been a strong point. Not even HP is fully
>>>> supported.
>>>>
>>>>> Now Cannon is a problem. Essentially though, that's a manufacturer
>>>>> issue not a Linux issue. Linux has no problem supporting Cannon if
>>>>> they can either make the necessary documentation available or make
>>>>> drivers available.
>>>>>
>>>>> Manufacturers beyond that I honestly have no idea because I wouldn't
>>>>> even know their names.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I am concerned, I have 4-5 perfectly fine working
>>>>> manufacturers to choose from. So I simply avoid the one manufacturer
>>>>> I know doesn't work and call it a day. So even if XP or Vista on the
>>>>> bottom line support more printers in total, the only one that matters
>>>>> is the one I have and it's more than easy and simple enough to choose
>>>>> one that is supported across the board.
>>>>
>>>> Again, if they can't even support HP fully, why take the chance?
>>>
>>> Because HP is fully supported?
>>
>> I have pointed out that HP is NOT fully supported. C'mon Stephan, you
>> are usually better than the smacktards.
>
> Allright so what? I've yet to find an HP printer not supported and I've
> had the chance to try out a *lot* of different models.
>
> So quite honestly, I'm going to take my personal experience over your
> pointing.

Actually more than pointing. Try setting them up in corporate environments,
etc. So MY personal experience in actually setting up multiple
configurations shows different.

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