Ubuntu, Printers, Scanners and Frank the Wank

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In article <fuqjs5$55g$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
> Leythos wrote:
> > In article <fuoh8g$s0r$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com says...
> >> I can see the last time you installed Ubuntu was a couple of versions
> >> ago. I have a brand new HP F4180 All in One and it works perfectly and
> >> the Ubuntu Gutsy HP Control Center recognizes it and allows me to do all
> >> kinds of things with it. Get back to me after you test Hardy Heron that
> >> comes out tomorrow.
> >
> > Face it sonny, you're wrong about it being easier, since it doesn't
> > support most printers. And I downloaded and used the version from last
> > month, so you're wrong again.
> >
>
> It supports most HP and Epson printers. How many of those did you try?

Again, just look at the specs on supported printers - it's easy enough
to find the ones that are supported by the community - google is your
friend. You will find that much fewer printers are supported under Linux
than Windows.

Keep reaching for something to say you're right, you just keep proving
that your statements are wrong each post you make. Even the linux
community won't back your statements.

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In article <fuohcm$s0r$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com says...
> Not if they have an Epson or HP, they don't. Course, the last Ubuntu you
> installed and tested was?

There you go again, forcing people to use printers that they most likely
don't already have, some easier for them....

Why do you want to make up excuses for why I can't be right?

The simple fact is that most modern printers are not supported as simply
or as fully or at all, like they are under Windows.

If you want to change the thread to Subject: Ubuntu installs HP and
Espon printers easier than Windows does, well you would still be wrong,
as you would have to say, natively supported under Ubunto and not
natively supported under Windows.

I have found my position to be completely true with versions 6.1 through
8.04 that I've tested across many comptuers and with many peripherials.

Unlike you, I can't limit my testing to 1 or 2 devices and make grand
claims that give false impressions to noobs.

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Leythos wrote:
> In article <fuqjs5$55g$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>>> In article <fuoh8g$s0r$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com says...
>>>> I can see the last time you installed Ubuntu was a couple of versions
>>>> ago. I have a brand new HP F4180 All in One and it works perfectly and
>>>> the Ubuntu Gutsy HP Control Center recognizes it and allows me to do all
>>>> kinds of things with it. Get back to me after you test Hardy Heron that
>>>> comes out tomorrow.
>>> Face it sonny, you're wrong about it being easier, since it doesn't
>>> support most printers. And I downloaded and used the version from last
>>> month, so you're wrong again.
>>>
>> It supports most HP and Epson printers. How many of those did you try?
>
> Again, just look at the specs on supported printers - it's easy enough
> to find the ones that are supported by the community - google is your
> friend. You will find that much fewer printers are supported under Linux
> than Windows.

Which means one should do a little research is all.

>
> Keep reaching for something to say you're right, you just keep proving
> that your statements are wrong each post you make. Even the linux
> community won't back your statements.

OK, correction: I have yet to see an Epson or HP printer/scanner not
work and I've seen quite a few.

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In article <fur4c8$6r1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
> Leythos wrote:
> > In article <fuqjs5$55g$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
> >> Leythos wrote:
> >>> In article <fuoh8g$s0r$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com says...
> >>>> I can see the last time you installed Ubuntu was a couple of versions
> >>>> ago. I have a brand new HP F4180 All in One and it works perfectly and
> >>>> the Ubuntu Gutsy HP Control Center recognizes it and allows me to do all
> >>>> kinds of things with it. Get back to me after you test Hardy Heron that
> >>>> comes out tomorrow.
> >>> Face it sonny, you're wrong about it being easier, since it doesn't
> >>> support most printers. And I downloaded and used the version from last
> >>> month, so you're wrong again.
> >>>
> >> It supports most HP and Epson printers. How many of those did you try?
> >
> > Again, just look at the specs on supported printers - it's easy enough
> > to find the ones that are supported by the community - google is your
> > friend. You will find that much fewer printers are supported under Linux
> > than Windows.
>
> Which means one should do a little research is all.

Why, that would not be easy, at least not for Linux compat printer
information - certainly no listed in the Store....

> > Keep reaching for something to say you're right, you just keep proving
> > that your statements are wrong each post you make. Even the linux
> > community won't back your statements.
>
> OK, correction: I have yet to see an Epson or HP printer/scanner not
> work and I've seen quite a few.

And just how many do you see?

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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> In article <fun786$8r7$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>> > In article <HL6dnRfQqp27EJPVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> > nospam@spammer.com says...
>> >> Bottom line: I don't care if it's XP, Vista, Ubuntu, <insert OS here>.
>> >> Not every device is going to work. Fact of life.
>> >
>> > Actually, I think the bottom line is that More printers, modern, are
>> > supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu, and more printers that
>> > people already have, from the last 4-5 years, are already supported
>> > under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> No, the bottom line is that it's much easier to install a printer with
>> Ubuntu than Windows.
>
> No, it's not, you can't possibly say that with any honesty - I connect a
> printer to either, both detect and install with little effort on my
> part.

Unfortunately poor old Alias is a total retard, and has no idea what he is
talking about. Printer support in Linux in general has been hit or miss for
as long as I can remember. I used to have an old LJ3, and they could not
even get THAT driver to work right back when I was running Mandrake. Forget
even trying to duplex under it.

> No, take a typical printer that people might have, Ubuntu is unlikely to
> support it, and that makes it MUCH MORE DIFFICULT or impossible.

Again, he has no idea what he is talking about. Do yourself a favor and
killfile the little smacktard like everyone else has.

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"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:20:05 -0400, Leythos wrote:
>
>> In article <HL6dnRfQqp27EJPVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> nospam@spammer.com says...
>>>
>>> Bottom line: I don't care if it's XP, Vista, Ubuntu, <insert OS here>.
>>> Not every device is going to work. Fact of life.
>>
>> Actually, I think the bottom line is that More printers, modern, are
>> supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu, and more printers that
>> people already have, from the last 4-5 years, are already supported
>> under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu.
>
> *shrug* that, I can't say.
>
> I know that HP, Zebra, and I wanna say Brother are all fully supported.
> I've never encountered any problems with those brands nor have I heard of
> any problems. Just looking at the available driver list, Epson looks
> really well too but I have no personal experience with Epson.

If you have been using Linux for any length of time, you KNOW that printer
support has never been a strong point. Not even HP is fully supported.

> Now Cannon is a problem. Essentially though, that's a manufacturer issue
> not a Linux issue. Linux has no problem supporting Cannon if they can
> either make the necessary documentation available or make drivers
> available.
>
> Manufacturers beyond that I honestly have no idea because I wouldn't even
> know their names.
>
> As far as I am concerned, I have 4-5 perfectly fine working manufacturers
> to choose from. So I simply avoid the one manufacturer I know doesn't
> work and call it a day. So even if XP or Vista on the bottom line support
> more printers in total, the only one that matters is the one I have and
> it's more than easy and simple enough to choose one that is supported
> across the board.

Again, if they can't even support HP fully, why take the chance?

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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:06:52 -0700, DarkSentinel wrote:

> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
> news:_c-dnXMOT7g5rJLVnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:20:05 -0400, Leythos wrote:
>>
>>> In article <HL6dnRfQqp27EJPVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> nospam@spammer.com says...
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line: I don't care if it's XP, Vista, Ubuntu, <insert OS
>>>> here>. Not every device is going to work. Fact of life.
>>>
>>> Actually, I think the bottom line is that More printers, modern, are
>>> supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu, and more printers that
>>> people already have, from the last 4-5 years, are already supported
>>> under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu.
>>
>> *shrug* that, I can't say.
>>
>> I know that HP, Zebra, and I wanna say Brother are all fully supported.
>> I've never encountered any problems with those brands nor have I heard
>> of any problems. Just looking at the available driver list, Epson looks
>> really well too but I have no personal experience with Epson.
>
> If you have been using Linux for any length of time, you KNOW that
> printer support has never been a strong point. Not even HP is fully
> supported.
>
>> Now Cannon is a problem. Essentially though, that's a manufacturer
>> issue not a Linux issue. Linux has no problem supporting Cannon if they
>> can either make the necessary documentation available or make drivers
>> available.
>>
>> Manufacturers beyond that I honestly have no idea because I wouldn't
>> even know their names.
>>
>> As far as I am concerned, I have 4-5 perfectly fine working
>> manufacturers to choose from. So I simply avoid the one manufacturer I
>> know doesn't work and call it a day. So even if XP or Vista on the
>> bottom line support more printers in total, the only one that matters
>> is the one I have and it's more than easy and simple enough to choose
>> one that is supported across the board.
>
> Again, if they can't even support HP fully, why take the chance?

Because HP is fully supported?

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In article <euKdnS4Q2bhJS4zVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@giganews.com>,
nospam@spammer.com says...
> Because HP is fully supported?

Check the Linux printer support for your specific printer BEFORE you
make the leap.

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Leythos wrote:
> In article <euKdnS4Q2bhJS4zVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@giganews.com>,
> nospam@spammer.com says...
>> Because HP is fully supported?
>
> Check the Linux printer support for your specific printer BEFORE you
> make the leap.
>

You mean before you buy a new Linux friendly printer.

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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:36:19 -0400, Leythos wrote:

> In article <euKdnS4Q2bhJS4zVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@giganews.com>,
> nospam@spammer.com says...
>> Because HP is fully supported?
>
> Check the Linux printer support for your specific printer BEFORE you
> make the leap.

Just like you should be checking Vista printer support BEFORE you switch
to Vista?

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In article <D9qdneDjXoZbxo_VnZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d@giganews.com>,
nospam@spammer.com says...
> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:36:19 -0400, Leythos wrote:
>
> > In article <euKdnS4Q2bhJS4zVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@giganews.com>,
> > nospam@spammer.com says...
> >> Because HP is fully supported?
> >
> > Check the Linux printer support for your specific printer BEFORE you
> > make the leap.
>
> Just like you should be checking Vista printer support BEFORE you switch
> to Vista?

I agree, but the chances are MUCH better that Windows Vista will have a
driver and support than Linux will, at least for modern printers.

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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:00:42 -0400, Leythos wrote:

> In article <D9qdneDjXoZbxo_VnZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d@giganews.com>,
> nospam@spammer.com says...
>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:36:19 -0400, Leythos wrote:
>>
>> > In article <euKdnS4Q2bhJS4zVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> > nospam@spammer.com says...
>> >> Because HP is fully supported?
>> >
>> > Check the Linux printer support for your specific printer BEFORE you
>> > make the leap.
>>
>> Just like you should be checking Vista printer support BEFORE you
>> switch to Vista?
>
> I agree, but the chances are MUCH better that Windows Vista will have a
> driver and support than Linux will, at least for modern printers.

*shrug*

We had 4 printers in our office in Germany ranging from less than a year
old to 5-6 years old. This included both inkjet, black/white laser and
color laser printers. Some of them shared via windows, some of them
shared via ethernet, some direct connect.

In the office here in the US, we have another 5 printers. All of them
shared via windows. All of them either color inkjets or black/white
lasers.

Oh and then there is the special label printer made by Zebra. Definitely
not something you'd find in the average household. It too works.

So these are a total of 10 printers. Every single printer is a completely
different model and the manufacturers vary too. No Canon printers though.

They all however have a few things in common in regards to Ubuntu:

- Installation involved simply selecting the printer via the network
share list and selecting the appropriate model.

- They all allow me to print! Imagine that!

- They all allow me to set the various necessary paper options such as
orientation, size, and what not all else there is.

- Not a single one was bought with linux compatibility in mind. They were
all purchased prior to me ever using Ubuntu.

The only printer that's problematic is one of them. It's directly hooked
up to a WinXP machine and shared over the network. There are exactly two
computers that can use that printer reliably and without problems. The
one directly connected to it, and my ubuntu system. All the other WinXp
systems cannot find nor use that printer no matter. At best, it works
intermittently and very unreliably.

I think that's about the only printer problem I recall running into
lately.

Co-worker of mine runs Ubuntu at home and I know she has no problem with
her printer. I don't even know what model it is, I just know it worked
plug and play for her. She loved it.

And another person who I used to work with back in Germany, he's also
happily using his ubuntu laptop for virtually everything. Oddly enough he
too has no problems printing things with his printer.

Just my personal experience...

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"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:06:52 -0700, DarkSentinel wrote:
>
>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>> news:_c-dnXMOT7g5rJLVnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:20:05 -0400, Leythos wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <HL6dnRfQqp27EJPVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>> nospam@spammer.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Bottom line: I don't care if it's XP, Vista, Ubuntu, <insert OS
>>>>> here>. Not every device is going to work. Fact of life.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I think the bottom line is that More printers, modern, are
>>>> supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu, and more printers that
>>>> people already have, from the last 4-5 years, are already supported
>>>> under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> *shrug* that, I can't say.
>>>
>>> I know that HP, Zebra, and I wanna say Brother are all fully supported.
>>> I've never encountered any problems with those brands nor have I heard
>>> of any problems. Just looking at the available driver list, Epson looks
>>> really well too but I have no personal experience with Epson.
>>
>> If you have been using Linux for any length of time, you KNOW that
>> printer support has never been a strong point. Not even HP is fully
>> supported.
>>
>>> Now Cannon is a problem. Essentially though, that's a manufacturer
>>> issue not a Linux issue. Linux has no problem supporting Cannon if they
>>> can either make the necessary documentation available or make drivers
>>> available.
>>>
>>> Manufacturers beyond that I honestly have no idea because I wouldn't
>>> even know their names.
>>>
>>> As far as I am concerned, I have 4-5 perfectly fine working
>>> manufacturers to choose from. So I simply avoid the one manufacturer I
>>> know doesn't work and call it a day. So even if XP or Vista on the
>>> bottom line support more printers in total, the only one that matters
>>> is the one I have and it's more than easy and simple enough to choose
>>> one that is supported across the board.
>>
>> Again, if they can't even support HP fully, why take the chance?
>
> Because HP is fully supported?

I have pointed out that HP is NOT fully supported. C'mon Stephan, you are
usually better than the smacktards.

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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:26:02 -0700, DarkSentinel wrote:

> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
> news:euKdnS4Q2bhJS4zVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:06:52 -0700, DarkSentinel wrote:
>>
>>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>>> news:_c-dnXMOT7g5rJLVnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:20:05 -0400, Leythos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <HL6dnRfQqp27EJPVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>> nospam@spammer.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom line: I don't care if it's XP, Vista, Ubuntu, <insert OS
>>>>>> here>. Not every device is going to work. Fact of life.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I think the bottom line is that More printers, modern, are
>>>>> supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu, and more printers
>>>>> that people already have, from the last 4-5 years, are already
>>>>> supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu.
>>>>
>>>> *shrug* that, I can't say.
>>>>
>>>> I know that HP, Zebra, and I wanna say Brother are all fully
>>>> supported. I've never encountered any problems with those brands nor
>>>> have I heard of any problems. Just looking at the available driver
>>>> list, Epson looks really well too but I have no personal experience
>>>> with Epson.
>>>
>>> If you have been using Linux for any length of time, you KNOW that
>>> printer support has never been a strong point. Not even HP is fully
>>> supported.
>>>
>>>> Now Cannon is a problem. Essentially though, that's a manufacturer
>>>> issue not a Linux issue. Linux has no problem supporting Cannon if
>>>> they can either make the necessary documentation available or make
>>>> drivers available.
>>>>
>>>> Manufacturers beyond that I honestly have no idea because I wouldn't
>>>> even know their names.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I am concerned, I have 4-5 perfectly fine working
>>>> manufacturers to choose from. So I simply avoid the one manufacturer
>>>> I know doesn't work and call it a day. So even if XP or Vista on the
>>>> bottom line support more printers in total, the only one that matters
>>>> is the one I have and it's more than easy and simple enough to choose
>>>> one that is supported across the board.
>>>
>>> Again, if they can't even support HP fully, why take the chance?
>>
>> Because HP is fully supported?
>
> I have pointed out that HP is NOT fully supported. C'mon Stephan, you
> are usually better than the smacktards.

Allright so what? I've yet to find an HP printer not supported and I've
had the chance to try out a *lot* of different models.

So quite honestly, I'm going to take my personal experience over your
pointing.

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In article <AdKdnaqi78tcEY_VnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
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> Just my personal experience...

I agree, just your experience, and unlike mine, you were lucky.

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In article <faydnRLT0cJb247VnZ2dnUVZ_rDinZ2d@giganews.com>,
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> Allright so what? I've yet to find an HP printer not supported and I've
> had the chance to try out a *lot* of different models.

Except that HP is not the only vendor on the market. There is Kyocera,
IBM, HP, Lexmark, Cannon, Epson, Brother, Okidata, etc.....

While HP does have a big market share, I would have to guess that less
than 50% of home users have an HP. Business laser printers would be 50%
HP and then others.

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Stephan Rose wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:26:02 -0700, DarkSentinel wrote:
>
>
>>"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>>news:euKdnS4Q2bhJS4zVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:06:52 -0700, DarkSentinel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:_c-dnXMOT7g5rJLVnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:20:05 -0400, Leythos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <HL6dnRfQqp27EJPVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>>>nospam@spammer.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bottom line: I don't care if it's XP, Vista, Ubuntu, <insert OS
>>>>>>>here>. Not every device is going to work. Fact of life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually, I think the bottom line is that More printers, modern, are
>>>>>>supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu, and more printers
>>>>>>that people already have, from the last 4-5 years, are already
>>>>>>supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu.
>>>>>
>>>>>*shrug* that, I can't say.
>>>>>
>>>>>I know that HP, Zebra, and I wanna say Brother are all fully
>>>>>supported. I've never encountered any problems with those brands nor
>>>>>have I heard of any problems. Just looking at the available driver
>>>>>list, Epson looks really well too but I have no personal experience
>>>>>with Epson.
>>>>
>>>>If you have been using Linux for any length of time, you KNOW that
>>>>printer support has never been a strong point. Not even HP is fully
>>>>supported.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Now Cannon is a problem. Essentially though, that's a manufacturer
>>>>>issue not a Linux issue. Linux has no problem supporting Cannon if
>>>>>they can either make the necessary documentation available or make
>>>>>drivers available.
>>>>>
>>>>>Manufacturers beyond that I honestly have no idea because I wouldn't
>>>>>even know their names.
>>>>>
>>>>>As far as I am concerned, I have 4-5 perfectly fine working
>>>>>manufacturers to choose from. So I simply avoid the one manufacturer
>>>>>I know doesn't work and call it a day. So even if XP or Vista on the
>>>>>bottom line support more printers in total, the only one that matters
>>>>>is the one I have and it's more than easy and simple enough to choose
>>>>>one that is supported across the board.
>>>>
>>>>Again, if they can't even support HP fully, why take the chance?
>>>
>>>Because HP is fully supported?
>>
>>I have pointed out that HP is NOT fully supported. C'mon Stephan, you
>>are usually better than the smacktards.
>
>
> Allright so what? I've yet to find an HP printer not supported and I've
> had the chance to try out a *lot* of different models.
>
> So quite honestly, I'm going to take my personal experience over your
> pointing.
>
How ironic that one of the main mantras of you linux fanatical zealots
is "we like choice", yet you're obviously stuck with HP when it comes to
printers...not to mention most all of todays popular software. Something
that lying sack of sh*t alias can't seem to admit. But then again, he is
our resident known and admitted liar.
Frank
 
Frank wrote:
> Stephan Rose wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:26:02 -0700, DarkSentinel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>>> news:euKdnS4Q2bhJS4zVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:06:52 -0700, DarkSentinel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:_c-dnXMOT7g5rJLVnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:20:05 -0400, Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <HL6dnRfQqp27EJPVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>>>> nospam@spammer.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bottom line: I don't care if it's XP, Vista, Ubuntu, <insert OS
>>>>>>>> here>. Not every device is going to work. Fact of life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, I think the bottom line is that More printers, modern, are
>>>>>>> supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu, and more printers
>>>>>>> that people already have, from the last 4-5 years, are already
>>>>>>> supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *shrug* that, I can't say.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that HP, Zebra, and I wanna say Brother are all fully
>>>>>> supported. I've never encountered any problems with those brands nor
>>>>>> have I heard of any problems. Just looking at the available driver
>>>>>> list, Epson looks really well too but I have no personal experience
>>>>>> with Epson.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have been using Linux for any length of time, you KNOW that
>>>>> printer support has never been a strong point. Not even HP is fully
>>>>> supported.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now Cannon is a problem. Essentially though, that's a manufacturer
>>>>>> issue not a Linux issue. Linux has no problem supporting Cannon if
>>>>>> they can either make the necessary documentation available or make
>>>>>> drivers available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manufacturers beyond that I honestly have no idea because I wouldn't
>>>>>> even know their names.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as I am concerned, I have 4-5 perfectly fine working
>>>>>> manufacturers to choose from. So I simply avoid the one manufacturer
>>>>>> I know doesn't work and call it a day. So even if XP or Vista on the
>>>>>> bottom line support more printers in total, the only one that matters
>>>>>> is the one I have and it's more than easy and simple enough to choose
>>>>>> one that is supported across the board.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, if they can't even support HP fully, why take the chance?
>>>>
>>>> Because HP is fully supported?
>>>
>>> I have pointed out that HP is NOT fully supported. C'mon Stephan, you
>>> are usually better than the smacktards.
>>
>>
>> Allright so what? I've yet to find an HP printer not supported and
>> I've had the chance to try out a *lot* of different models.
>>
>> So quite honestly, I'm going to take my personal experience over your
>> pointing.
>>
> How ironic that one of the main mantras of you linux fanatical zealots
> is "we like choice", yet you're obviously stuck with HP when it comes to
> printers...not to mention most all of todays popular software. Something
> that lying sack of sh*t alias can't seem to admit. But then again, he is
> our resident known and admitted liar.
> Frank

My neighbor upstairs is running Ubuntu with an Epson printer and an
Epson scanner that work just fine. Oops.

Alias
 
In article <fuvp36$4jj$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
> My neighbor upstairs is running Ubuntu with an Epson printer and an
> Epson scanner that work just fine. Oops.

And this thread was about you stating that it was easier than under
Vista, which you and the rest of us have proven that it's not the case.

Vista supports many printers without interaction, so does Ubuntu, but
Vista supports more newer printers from more vendors than Unbuntu
currently does.

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Leythos wrote:
> In article <fuvp36$4jj$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>> My neighbor upstairs is running Ubuntu with an Epson printer and an
>> Epson scanner that work just fine. Oops.
>
> And this thread was about you stating that it was easier than under
> Vista, which you and the rest of us have proven that it's not the case.

No, you haven't.

> Vista supports many printers without interaction, so does Ubuntu, but
> Vista supports more newer printers from more vendors than Unbuntu
> currently does.

Who cares what Vista supports? The important thing is what Ubuntu supports.

Alias
 
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