Ubuntu, Printers, Scanners and Frank the Wank

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Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Leythos wrote:
>>
>>> In article <fult02$3p1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>>>
>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <ful6nt$8e6$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, Frank the Wank, has deserted that thread when I proved that
>>>>>> installing a printer and/or scanner on Ubuntu is MUCH easier than
>>>>>> Windows of any flavor. Interesting how when Frank the Wank is
>>>>>> refuted, he goes and hides in a corner, hoping no one will notice.
>>>>>
>>>>> BS, and many printers are not supported. I moved a distant family
>>>>> friend to Ubuntu about 4 months ago, and only 2 printers from
>>>>> BestBuy and Circuit city were supported in a LIMITED manner. Their
>>>>> older Epson printer was not supported, nor was their older Cannon
>>>>> fax/scanner/printer supported.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just installed a Okidata C5500 printer in my office, took about 2
>>>>> minutes, and it's printing just fine - the Ubuntu machine didn't
>>>>> even see it.
>>>>>
>>>> You can find printers and scanners that don't work with Vista. I
>>>> never said Okidata or Canon work with Ubuntu. I did say that the
>>>> Epsons and HPs that I have installed installed out of the box and
>>>> were much easier to install on Ubuntu than Windows. HP even
>>>> provides, by default, a control panel in Ubuntu.
>>>
>>>
>>> Alias, the fact remains that every printer that is sold in the common
>>> market at "Big Box" stores works with Vista right now, even the
>>> scanners work with them. Yes, I'm sure that you could dig up some 4
>>> year old scanner in the warehouse at BestBuy that was returned 2
>>> years ago, that doesn't work with vists, but that would be unlikely.
>>
>>
>> Not relevant.
>
> Most relevant.
>>
>>>
>>> I have installed Ubuntu many times, found that most printers that
>>> people have don't work with Ubuntu and the ones that do work are
>>> often limited in their special functions.
>>
>>
>> Like what "special features"? My HP has the same features with Ubuntu
>> that it has with XP.
>>
>>> It's nothing against Ubuntu, it's a good product, but it's not
>>> anywhere near as hardware friendly as Windows or even a MAC.
>>
>>
>> Like I said, to install a Linux friendly printer is easier than
>> installing the same printer on any flavor of Windows.
>
> That is simply not true. You're out of touch with reality. You don't
> have Vista, so you don't know. Stop lying!

I'm not lying. You are (again).

>>
>>>
>>> As for HP, I would never own an HP Color printer, they don't have the
>>> quality that many others have/provide - for a BW laser printer it's a
>>> given, HP wins, but the thread is about Ubuntu and printers/scanners,
>>> and that is an area that Ubuntu is very lacking in.
>>
>>
>> I'm very happy with my HP printer and scanner. It does everything I
>> need, be it with XP or Ubuntu.
>
> Good for you, huh?
> I guess you don't care about the millions using Canon and Epson right?
> Figures.
> Frank

Epson works just fine with Ubuntu. It's Canon's fault (and Lexmark's for
that matter) that they don't support Ubuntu. As more people switch to
Ubuntu, you will see more support from the likes of Canon and Lexmark.

Alias
 
Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <fun786$8r7$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <HL6dnRfQqp27EJPVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>>> nospam@spammer.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom line: I don't care if it's XP, Vista, Ubuntu, <insert OS
>>>>>>> here>. Not every device is going to work. Fact of life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I think the bottom line is that More printers, modern,
>>>>>> are supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu, and more
>>>>>> printers that people already have, from the last 4-5 years, are
>>>>>> already supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, the bottom line is that it's much easier to install a printer
>>>>> with Ubuntu than Windows.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, it's not, you can't possibly say that with any honesty - I
>>>> connect a printer to either, both detect and install with little
>>>> effort on my part.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You have to use the printer's CD to install the software and drivers.
>>> With Ubuntu, that is not necessary.
>>
>>
>> That my friend (you are my friend right?)
>
>
> No, you're not my friend.
>
>> is simply not true and points to just how out of touch with reality
>> you really are.
>
>
> Oh really? The printer manufacturer's provide a CD that is not
> necessary? Please explain (as if).

As if what? You don't understand? Example: we use Epson's C88 & C88+ as
the office print mule's. Vista automatically recognizes them and
installs the drivers without using the CD's. You're out of touch. Try
and keep up.
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, take a typical printer that people might have, Ubuntu is
>>>> unlikely to support it, and that makes it MUCH MORE DIFFICULT or
>>>> impossible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We were talking about Linux friendly computers, Leythos. Please try
>>> to keep up.
>>
>>
>> You're the one who needs to try and keep up. You're out of touch.
>> Frank
>
>
> Since when is your low life insults proof of anything?
>
I've proved many times that you're a just a vile, lying POS linux troll
an a spammer.
Any questions?
Frank
 
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <fult02$3p1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <ful6nt$8e6$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, Frank the Wank, has deserted that thread when I proved that
>>>>>>> installing a printer and/or scanner on Ubuntu is MUCH easier than
>>>>>>> Windows of any flavor. Interesting how when Frank the Wank is
>>>>>>> refuted, he goes and hides in a corner, hoping no one will notice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BS, and many printers are not supported. I moved a distant family
>>>>>> friend to Ubuntu about 4 months ago, and only 2 printers from
>>>>>> BestBuy and Circuit city were supported in a LIMITED manner. Their
>>>>>> older Epson printer was not supported, nor was their older Cannon
>>>>>> fax/scanner/printer supported.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just installed a Okidata C5500 printer in my office, took about
>>>>>> 2 minutes, and it's printing just fine - the Ubuntu machine didn't
>>>>>> even see it.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You can find printers and scanners that don't work with Vista. I
>>>>> never said Okidata or Canon work with Ubuntu. I did say that the
>>>>> Epsons and HPs that I have installed installed out of the box and
>>>>> were much easier to install on Ubuntu than Windows. HP even
>>>>> provides, by default, a control panel in Ubuntu.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alias, the fact remains that every printer that is sold in the
>>>> common market at "Big Box" stores works with Vista right now, even
>>>> the scanners work with them. Yes, I'm sure that you could dig up
>>>> some 4 year old scanner in the warehouse at BestBuy that was
>>>> returned 2 years ago, that doesn't work with vists, but that would
>>>> be unlikely.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not relevant.
>>
>>
>> Most relevant.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have installed Ubuntu many times, found that most printers that
>>>> people have don't work with Ubuntu and the ones that do work are
>>>> often limited in their special functions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Like what "special features"? My HP has the same features with Ubuntu
>>> that it has with XP.
>>>
>>>> It's nothing against Ubuntu, it's a good product, but it's not
>>>> anywhere near as hardware friendly as Windows or even a MAC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Like I said, to install a Linux friendly printer is easier than
>>> installing the same printer on any flavor of Windows.
>>
>>
>> That is simply not true. You're out of touch with reality. You don't
>> have Vista, so you don't know. Stop lying!
>
>
> I'm not lying. You are (again).
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As for HP, I would never own an HP Color printer, they don't have
>>>> the quality that many others have/provide - for a BW laser printer
>>>> it's a given, HP wins, but the thread is about Ubuntu and
>>>> printers/scanners, and that is an area that Ubuntu is very lacking in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm very happy with my HP printer and scanner. It does everything I
>>> need, be it with XP or Ubuntu.
>>
>>
>> Good for you, huh?
>> I guess you don't care about the millions using Canon and Epson right?
>> Figures.
>> Frank
>
>
> Epson works just fine with Ubuntu. It's Canon's fault (and Lexmark's for
> that matter) that they don't support Ubuntu. As more people switch to
> Ubuntu, you will see more support from the likes of Canon and Lexmark.
>
> Alias

You're a liar! Supply the URL to Epson linux drivers...printer/scanners...!
Frank
 
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <fun786$8r7$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <HL6dnRfQqp27EJPVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>>>> nospam@spammer.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bottom line: I don't care if it's XP, Vista, Ubuntu, <insert OS
>>>>>>>> here>. Not every device is going to work. Fact of life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, I think the bottom line is that More printers, modern,
>>>>>>> are supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu, and more
>>>>>>> printers that people already have, from the last 4-5 years, are
>>>>>>> already supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, the bottom line is that it's much easier to install a printer
>>>>>> with Ubuntu than Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it's not, you can't possibly say that with any honesty - I
>>>>> connect a printer to either, both detect and install with little
>>>>> effort on my part.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You have to use the printer's CD to install the software and
>>>> drivers. With Ubuntu, that is not necessary.
>>>
>>>
>>> That my friend (you are my friend right?)
>>
>>
>> No, you're not my friend.
>>
>>> is simply not true and points to just how out of touch with reality
>>> you really are.
>>
>>
>> Oh really? The printer manufacturer's provide a CD that is not
>> necessary? Please explain (as if).
>
> As if what? You don't understand? Example: we use Epson's C88 & C88+ as
> the office print mule's. Vista automatically recognizes them and
> installs the drivers without using the CD's. You're out of touch. Try
> and keep up.

Giggle. And it installs the software without a CD too?

>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, take a typical printer that people might have, Ubuntu is
>>>>> unlikely to support it, and that makes it MUCH MORE DIFFICULT or
>>>>> impossible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We were talking about Linux friendly computers, Leythos. Please try
>>>> to keep up.
>>>
>>>
>>> You're the one who needs to try and keep up. You're out of touch.
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Since when is your low life insults proof of anything?
>>
> I've proved many times that you're a just a vile, lying POS linux troll
> an a spammer.
> Any questions?
> Frank

You have proved nothing except that you're a low life who can only post
lies, insults, profanity, weird sexual fantasies and bluster and you
prove it very well with your every disgusting post.

Alias
 
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <fult02$3p1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <ful6nt$8e6$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, Frank the Wank, has deserted that thread when I proved
>>>>>>>> that installing a printer and/or scanner on Ubuntu is MUCH
>>>>>>>> easier than Windows of any flavor. Interesting how when Frank
>>>>>>>> the Wank is refuted, he goes and hides in a corner, hoping no
>>>>>>>> one will notice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BS, and many printers are not supported. I moved a distant family
>>>>>>> friend to Ubuntu about 4 months ago, and only 2 printers from
>>>>>>> BestBuy and Circuit city were supported in a LIMITED manner.
>>>>>>> Their older Epson printer was not supported, nor was their older
>>>>>>> Cannon fax/scanner/printer supported.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just installed a Okidata C5500 printer in my office, took about
>>>>>>> 2 minutes, and it's printing just fine - the Ubuntu machine
>>>>>>> didn't even see it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can find printers and scanners that don't work with Vista. I
>>>>>> never said Okidata or Canon work with Ubuntu. I did say that the
>>>>>> Epsons and HPs that I have installed installed out of the box and
>>>>>> were much easier to install on Ubuntu than Windows. HP even
>>>>>> provides, by default, a control panel in Ubuntu.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias, the fact remains that every printer that is sold in the
>>>>> common market at "Big Box" stores works with Vista right now, even
>>>>> the scanners work with them. Yes, I'm sure that you could dig up
>>>>> some 4 year old scanner in the warehouse at BestBuy that was
>>>>> returned 2 years ago, that doesn't work with vists, but that would
>>>>> be unlikely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not relevant.
>>>
>>>
>>> Most relevant.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have installed Ubuntu many times, found that most printers that
>>>>> people have don't work with Ubuntu and the ones that do work are
>>>>> often limited in their special functions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like what "special features"? My HP has the same features with
>>>> Ubuntu that it has with XP.
>>>>
>>>>> It's nothing against Ubuntu, it's a good product, but it's not
>>>>> anywhere near as hardware friendly as Windows or even a MAC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like I said, to install a Linux friendly printer is easier than
>>>> installing the same printer on any flavor of Windows.
>>>
>>>
>>> That is simply not true. You're out of touch with reality. You don't
>>> have Vista, so you don't know. Stop lying!
>>
>>
>> I'm not lying. You are (again).
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As for HP, I would never own an HP Color printer, they don't have
>>>>> the quality that many others have/provide - for a BW laser printer
>>>>> it's a given, HP wins, but the thread is about Ubuntu and
>>>>> printers/scanners, and that is an area that Ubuntu is very lacking in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm very happy with my HP printer and scanner. It does everything I
>>>> need, be it with XP or Ubuntu.
>>>
>>>
>>> Good for you, huh?
>>> I guess you don't care about the millions using Canon and Epson right?
>>> Figures.
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Epson works just fine with Ubuntu. It's Canon's fault (and Lexmark's
>> for that matter) that they don't support Ubuntu. As more people switch
>> to Ubuntu, you will see more support from the likes of Canon and Lexmark.
>>
>> Alias
>
> You're a liar! Supply the URL to Epson linux drivers...printer/scanners...!
> Frank

Man, you're dumb. As I have told you now some three or four times, there
is no need for an URL. Plug in the Epson, Ubuntu recognizes it, installs
the drivers and you're set to go.

Alias
 
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <fun786$8r7$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <HL6dnRfQqp27EJPVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>>>>> nospam@spammer.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bottom line: I don't care if it's XP, Vista, Ubuntu, <insert OS
>>>>>>>>> here>. Not every device is going to work. Fact of life.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, I think the bottom line is that More printers, modern,
>>>>>>>> are supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu, and more
>>>>>>>> printers that people already have, from the last 4-5 years, are
>>>>>>>> already supported under XP and Vista than under Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, the bottom line is that it's much easier to install a printer
>>>>>>> with Ubuntu than Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it's not, you can't possibly say that with any honesty - I
>>>>>> connect a printer to either, both detect and install with little
>>>>>> effort on my part.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You have to use the printer's CD to install the software and
>>>>> drivers. With Ubuntu, that is not necessary.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That my friend (you are my friend right?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, you're not my friend.
>>>
>>>> is simply not true and points to just how out of touch with reality
>>>> you really are.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh really? The printer manufacturer's provide a CD that is not
>>> necessary? Please explain (as if).
>>
>>
>> As if what? You don't understand? Example: we use Epson's C88 & C88+
>> as the office print mule's. Vista automatically recognizes them and
>> installs the drivers without using the CD's. You're out of touch. Try
>> and keep up.
>
>
> Giggle. And it installs the software without a CD too?
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, take a typical printer that people might have, Ubuntu is
>>>>>> unlikely to support it, and that makes it MUCH MORE DIFFICULT or
>>>>>> impossible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We were talking about Linux friendly computers, Leythos. Please try
>>>>> to keep up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're the one who needs to try and keep up. You're out of touch.
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Since when is your low life insults proof of anything?
>>>
>> I've proved many times that you're a just a vile, lying POS linux
>> troll an a spammer.
>> Any questions?
>> Frank
>
>
> You have proved nothing except that you're a low life who can only post
> lies, insults, profanity, weird sexual fantasies and bluster and you
> prove it very well with your every disgusting post.
>
> Alias

Actually, you're the who has supplied the proof that you're a liar,
troll, spammer and a bigoted atheist...LOL!
Oh and thanks!
Frank
 
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <fult02$3p1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <ful6nt$8e6$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, Frank the Wank, has deserted that thread when I proved
>>>>>>>>> that installing a printer and/or scanner on Ubuntu is MUCH
>>>>>>>>> easier than Windows of any flavor. Interesting how when Frank
>>>>>>>>> the Wank is refuted, he goes and hides in a corner, hoping no
>>>>>>>>> one will notice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BS, and many printers are not supported. I moved a distant
>>>>>>>> family friend to Ubuntu about 4 months ago, and only 2 printers
>>>>>>>> from BestBuy and Circuit city were supported in a LIMITED
>>>>>>>> manner. Their older Epson printer was not supported, nor was
>>>>>>>> their older Cannon fax/scanner/printer supported.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just installed a Okidata C5500 printer in my office, took
>>>>>>>> about 2 minutes, and it's printing just fine - the Ubuntu
>>>>>>>> machine didn't even see it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can find printers and scanners that don't work with Vista. I
>>>>>>> never said Okidata or Canon work with Ubuntu. I did say that the
>>>>>>> Epsons and HPs that I have installed installed out of the box and
>>>>>>> were much easier to install on Ubuntu than Windows. HP even
>>>>>>> provides, by default, a control panel in Ubuntu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias, the fact remains that every printer that is sold in the
>>>>>> common market at "Big Box" stores works with Vista right now, even
>>>>>> the scanners work with them. Yes, I'm sure that you could dig up
>>>>>> some 4 year old scanner in the warehouse at BestBuy that was
>>>>>> returned 2 years ago, that doesn't work with vists, but that would
>>>>>> be unlikely.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not relevant.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most relevant.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have installed Ubuntu many times, found that most printers that
>>>>>> people have don't work with Ubuntu and the ones that do work are
>>>>>> often limited in their special functions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Like what "special features"? My HP has the same features with
>>>>> Ubuntu that it has with XP.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's nothing against Ubuntu, it's a good product, but it's not
>>>>>> anywhere near as hardware friendly as Windows or even a MAC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Like I said, to install a Linux friendly printer is easier than
>>>>> installing the same printer on any flavor of Windows.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is simply not true. You're out of touch with reality. You don't
>>>> have Vista, so you don't know. Stop lying!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not lying. You are (again).
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for HP, I would never own an HP Color printer, they don't have
>>>>>> the quality that many others have/provide - for a BW laser printer
>>>>>> it's a given, HP wins, but the thread is about Ubuntu and
>>>>>> printers/scanners, and that is an area that Ubuntu is very lacking
>>>>>> in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm very happy with my HP printer and scanner. It does everything I
>>>>> need, be it with XP or Ubuntu.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good for you, huh?
>>>> I guess you don't care about the millions using Canon and Epson right?
>>>> Figures.
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Epson works just fine with Ubuntu. It's Canon's fault (and Lexmark's
>>> for that matter) that they don't support Ubuntu. As more people
>>> switch to Ubuntu, you will see more support from the likes of Canon
>>> and Lexmark.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> You're a liar! Supply the URL to Epson linux
>> drivers...printer/scanners...!
>> Frank
>
>
> Man, you're dumb. As I have told you now some three or four times, there
> is no need for an URL. Plug in the Epson, Ubuntu recognizes it, installs
> the drivers and you're set to go.
>
> Alias

Sorry sheep-fukker, but that is simply not true. Try lying to those
little old ladies that you rip off...LOL!
Frank
 
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <fult02$3p1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <ful6nt$8e6$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com
>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, Frank the Wank, has deserted that thread when I proved
>>>>>>>>>> that installing a printer and/or scanner on Ubuntu is MUCH
>>>>>>>>>> easier than Windows of any flavor. Interesting how when Frank
>>>>>>>>>> the Wank is refuted, he goes and hides in a corner, hoping no
>>>>>>>>>> one will notice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BS, and many printers are not supported. I moved a distant
>>>>>>>>> family friend to Ubuntu about 4 months ago, and only 2 printers
>>>>>>>>> from BestBuy and Circuit city were supported in a LIMITED
>>>>>>>>> manner. Their older Epson printer was not supported, nor was
>>>>>>>>> their older Cannon fax/scanner/printer supported.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just installed a Okidata C5500 printer in my office, took
>>>>>>>>> about 2 minutes, and it's printing just fine - the Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>> machine didn't even see it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can find printers and scanners that don't work with Vista. I
>>>>>>>> never said Okidata or Canon work with Ubuntu. I did say that the
>>>>>>>> Epsons and HPs that I have installed installed out of the box
>>>>>>>> and were much easier to install on Ubuntu than Windows. HP even
>>>>>>>> provides, by default, a control panel in Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias, the fact remains that every printer that is sold in the
>>>>>>> common market at "Big Box" stores works with Vista right now,
>>>>>>> even the scanners work with them. Yes, I'm sure that you could
>>>>>>> dig up some 4 year old scanner in the warehouse at BestBuy that
>>>>>>> was returned 2 years ago, that doesn't work with vists, but that
>>>>>>> would be unlikely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not relevant.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Most relevant.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have installed Ubuntu many times, found that most printers that
>>>>>>> people have don't work with Ubuntu and the ones that do work are
>>>>>>> often limited in their special functions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like what "special features"? My HP has the same features with
>>>>>> Ubuntu that it has with XP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's nothing against Ubuntu, it's a good product, but it's not
>>>>>>> anywhere near as hardware friendly as Windows or even a MAC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like I said, to install a Linux friendly printer is easier than
>>>>>> installing the same printer on any flavor of Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is simply not true. You're out of touch with reality. You
>>>>> don't have Vista, so you don't know. Stop lying!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not lying. You are (again).
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for HP, I would never own an HP Color printer, they don't have
>>>>>>> the quality that many others have/provide - for a BW laser
>>>>>>> printer it's a given, HP wins, but the thread is about Ubuntu and
>>>>>>> printers/scanners, and that is an area that Ubuntu is very
>>>>>>> lacking in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm very happy with my HP printer and scanner. It does everything
>>>>>> I need, be it with XP or Ubuntu.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good for you, huh?
>>>>> I guess you don't care about the millions using Canon and Epson right?
>>>>> Figures.
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Epson works just fine with Ubuntu. It's Canon's fault (and Lexmark's
>>>> for that matter) that they don't support Ubuntu. As more people
>>>> switch to Ubuntu, you will see more support from the likes of Canon
>>>> and Lexmark.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> You're a liar! Supply the URL to Epson linux
>>> drivers...printer/scanners...!
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Man, you're dumb. As I have told you now some three or four times,
>> there is no need for an URL. Plug in the Epson, Ubuntu recognizes it,
>> installs the drivers and you're set to go.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Sorry sheep-fukker, but that is simply not true. Try lying to those
> little old ladies that you rip off...LOL!
> Frank

The man who has an Epson would be surprised because he's been using it
to print for over a year now.

Alias
 
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <fult02$3p1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article <ful6nt$8e6$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Frank the Wank, has deserted that thread when I proved
>>>>>>>>>>> that installing a printer and/or scanner on Ubuntu is MUCH
>>>>>>>>>>> easier than Windows of any flavor. Interesting how when Frank
>>>>>>>>>>> the Wank is refuted, he goes and hides in a corner, hoping no
>>>>>>>>>>> one will notice.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BS, and many printers are not supported. I moved a distant
>>>>>>>>>> family friend to Ubuntu about 4 months ago, and only 2
>>>>>>>>>> printers from BestBuy and Circuit city were supported in a
>>>>>>>>>> LIMITED manner. Their older Epson printer was not supported,
>>>>>>>>>> nor was their older Cannon fax/scanner/printer supported.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just installed a Okidata C5500 printer in my office, took
>>>>>>>>>> about 2 minutes, and it's printing just fine - the Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>> machine didn't even see it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can find printers and scanners that don't work with Vista.
>>>>>>>>> I never said Okidata or Canon work with Ubuntu. I did say that
>>>>>>>>> the Epsons and HPs that I have installed installed out of the
>>>>>>>>> box and were much easier to install on Ubuntu than Windows. HP
>>>>>>>>> even provides, by default, a control panel in Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alias, the fact remains that every printer that is sold in the
>>>>>>>> common market at "Big Box" stores works with Vista right now,
>>>>>>>> even the scanners work with them. Yes, I'm sure that you could
>>>>>>>> dig up some 4 year old scanner in the warehouse at BestBuy that
>>>>>>>> was returned 2 years ago, that doesn't work with vists, but that
>>>>>>>> would be unlikely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not relevant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most relevant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have installed Ubuntu many times, found that most printers
>>>>>>>> that people have don't work with Ubuntu and the ones that do
>>>>>>>> work are often limited in their special functions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like what "special features"? My HP has the same features with
>>>>>>> Ubuntu that it has with XP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's nothing against Ubuntu, it's a good product, but it's not
>>>>>>>> anywhere near as hardware friendly as Windows or even a MAC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like I said, to install a Linux friendly printer is easier than
>>>>>>> installing the same printer on any flavor of Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is simply not true. You're out of touch with reality. You
>>>>>> don't have Vista, so you don't know. Stop lying!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not lying. You are (again).
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for HP, I would never own an HP Color printer, they don't
>>>>>>>> have the quality that many others have/provide - for a BW laser
>>>>>>>> printer it's a given, HP wins, but the thread is about Ubuntu
>>>>>>>> and printers/scanners, and that is an area that Ubuntu is very
>>>>>>>> lacking in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm very happy with my HP printer and scanner. It does everything
>>>>>>> I need, be it with XP or Ubuntu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good for you, huh?
>>>>>> I guess you don't care about the millions using Canon and Epson
>>>>>> right?
>>>>>> Figures.
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Epson works just fine with Ubuntu. It's Canon's fault (and
>>>>> Lexmark's for that matter) that they don't support Ubuntu. As more
>>>>> people switch to Ubuntu, you will see more support from the likes
>>>>> of Canon and Lexmark.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're a liar! Supply the URL to Epson linux
>>>> drivers...printer/scanners...!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Man, you're dumb. As I have told you now some three or four times,
>>> there is no need for an URL. Plug in the Epson, Ubuntu recognizes it,
>>> installs the drivers and you're set to go.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> Sorry sheep-fukker, but that is simply not true. Try lying to those
>> little old ladies that you rip off...LOL!
>> Frank
>
>
> The man who has an Epson would be surprised because he's been using it
> to print for over a year now.
>
> Alias

There are no Epson drivers for linux. Post the URL to them or else look
like the fool you are.
Frank
 
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <fult02$3p1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com
>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ful6nt$8e6$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Frank the Wank, has deserted that thread when I proved
>>>>>>>>>>>> that installing a printer and/or scanner on Ubuntu is MUCH
>>>>>>>>>>>> easier than Windows of any flavor. Interesting how when
>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank the Wank is refuted, he goes and hides in a corner,
>>>>>>>>>>>> hoping no one will notice.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BS, and many printers are not supported. I moved a distant
>>>>>>>>>>> family friend to Ubuntu about 4 months ago, and only 2
>>>>>>>>>>> printers from BestBuy and Circuit city were supported in a
>>>>>>>>>>> LIMITED manner. Their older Epson printer was not supported,
>>>>>>>>>>> nor was their older Cannon fax/scanner/printer supported.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just installed a Okidata C5500 printer in my office, took
>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 minutes, and it's printing just fine - the Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>> machine didn't even see it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can find printers and scanners that don't work with Vista.
>>>>>>>>>> I never said Okidata or Canon work with Ubuntu. I did say that
>>>>>>>>>> the Epsons and HPs that I have installed installed out of the
>>>>>>>>>> box and were much easier to install on Ubuntu than Windows. HP
>>>>>>>>>> even provides, by default, a control panel in Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alias, the fact remains that every printer that is sold in the
>>>>>>>>> common market at "Big Box" stores works with Vista right now,
>>>>>>>>> even the scanners work with them. Yes, I'm sure that you could
>>>>>>>>> dig up some 4 year old scanner in the warehouse at BestBuy that
>>>>>>>>> was returned 2 years ago, that doesn't work with vists, but
>>>>>>>>> that would be unlikely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not relevant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most relevant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have installed Ubuntu many times, found that most printers
>>>>>>>>> that people have don't work with Ubuntu and the ones that do
>>>>>>>>> work are often limited in their special functions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like what "special features"? My HP has the same features with
>>>>>>>> Ubuntu that it has with XP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's nothing against Ubuntu, it's a good product, but it's not
>>>>>>>>> anywhere near as hardware friendly as Windows or even a MAC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like I said, to install a Linux friendly printer is easier than
>>>>>>>> installing the same printer on any flavor of Windows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is simply not true. You're out of touch with reality. You
>>>>>>> don't have Vista, so you don't know. Stop lying!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not lying. You are (again).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As for HP, I would never own an HP Color printer, they don't
>>>>>>>>> have the quality that many others have/provide - for a BW laser
>>>>>>>>> printer it's a given, HP wins, but the thread is about Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>> and printers/scanners, and that is an area that Ubuntu is very
>>>>>>>>> lacking in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm very happy with my HP printer and scanner. It does
>>>>>>>> everything I need, be it with XP or Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good for you, huh?
>>>>>>> I guess you don't care about the millions using Canon and Epson
>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>> Figures.
>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Epson works just fine with Ubuntu. It's Canon's fault (and
>>>>>> Lexmark's for that matter) that they don't support Ubuntu. As more
>>>>>> people switch to Ubuntu, you will see more support from the likes
>>>>>> of Canon and Lexmark.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You're a liar! Supply the URL to Epson linux
>>>>> drivers...printer/scanners...!
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Man, you're dumb. As I have told you now some three or four times,
>>>> there is no need for an URL. Plug in the Epson, Ubuntu recognizes
>>>> it, installs the drivers and you're set to go.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry sheep-fukker, but that is simply not true. Try lying to those
>>> little old ladies that you rip off...LOL!
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> The man who has an Epson would be surprised because he's been using it
>> to print for over a year now.
>>
>> Alias
>
> There are no Epson drivers for linux. Post the URL to them or else look
> like the fool you are.
> Frank

I didn't get them from an URL so I'm afraid I can't help you. No need to
download drivers or insert a CD. Ubuntu does it automagically like it
does so many things. Live with it and get the fuçk over it.

Alias
 
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article <fult02$3p1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ful6nt$8e6$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Frank the Wank, has deserted that thread when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> proved that installing a printer and/or scanner on Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is MUCH easier than Windows of any flavor. Interesting how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when Frank the Wank is refuted, he goes and hides in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> corner, hoping no one will notice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BS, and many printers are not supported. I moved a distant
>>>>>>>>>>>> family friend to Ubuntu about 4 months ago, and only 2
>>>>>>>>>>>> printers from BestBuy and Circuit city were supported in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> LIMITED manner. Their older Epson printer was not supported,
>>>>>>>>>>>> nor was their older Cannon fax/scanner/printer supported.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just installed a Okidata C5500 printer in my office, took
>>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 minutes, and it's printing just fine - the Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>>> machine didn't even see it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can find printers and scanners that don't work with
>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. I never said Okidata or Canon work with Ubuntu. I did
>>>>>>>>>>> say that the Epsons and HPs that I have installed installed
>>>>>>>>>>> out of the box and were much easier to install on Ubuntu than
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows. HP even provides, by default, a control panel in
>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alias, the fact remains that every printer that is sold in the
>>>>>>>>>> common market at "Big Box" stores works with Vista right now,
>>>>>>>>>> even the scanners work with them. Yes, I'm sure that you could
>>>>>>>>>> dig up some 4 year old scanner in the warehouse at BestBuy
>>>>>>>>>> that was returned 2 years ago, that doesn't work with vists,
>>>>>>>>>> but that would be unlikely.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not relevant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most relevant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have installed Ubuntu many times, found that most printers
>>>>>>>>>> that people have don't work with Ubuntu and the ones that do
>>>>>>>>>> work are often limited in their special functions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like what "special features"? My HP has the same features with
>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu that it has with XP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's nothing against Ubuntu, it's a good product, but it's not
>>>>>>>>>> anywhere near as hardware friendly as Windows or even a MAC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like I said, to install a Linux friendly printer is easier than
>>>>>>>>> installing the same printer on any flavor of Windows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is simply not true. You're out of touch with reality. You
>>>>>>>> don't have Vista, so you don't know. Stop lying!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not lying. You are (again).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As for HP, I would never own an HP Color printer, they don't
>>>>>>>>>> have the quality that many others have/provide - for a BW
>>>>>>>>>> laser printer it's a given, HP wins, but the thread is about
>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu and printers/scanners, and that is an area that Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>> is very lacking in.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm very happy with my HP printer and scanner. It does
>>>>>>>>> everything I need, be it with XP or Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good for you, huh?
>>>>>>>> I guess you don't care about the millions using Canon and Epson
>>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>>> Figures.
>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Epson works just fine with Ubuntu. It's Canon's fault (and
>>>>>>> Lexmark's for that matter) that they don't support Ubuntu. As
>>>>>>> more people switch to Ubuntu, you will see more support from the
>>>>>>> likes of Canon and Lexmark.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're a liar! Supply the URL to Epson linux
>>>>>> drivers...printer/scanners...!
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Man, you're dumb. As I have told you now some three or four times,
>>>>> there is no need for an URL. Plug in the Epson, Ubuntu recognizes
>>>>> it, installs the drivers and you're set to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry sheep-fukker, but that is simply not true. Try lying to those
>>>> little old ladies that you rip off...LOL!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The man who has an Epson would be surprised because he's been using
>>> it to print for over a year now.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> There are no Epson drivers for linux. Post the URL to them or else
>> look like the fool you are.
>> Frank
>
>
> I didn't get them from an URL so I'm afraid I can't help you. No need to
> download drivers or insert a CD. Ubuntu does it automagically like it
> does so many things. Live with it and get the fuçk over it.
>
> Alias
Liar! We all know you're a liar.
Frank
 
In article <fun7p6$aum$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
> Leythos wrote:
> > In article <fult02$3p1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
> >> Leythos wrote:
> >>> In article <ful6nt$8e6$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com says...
> >>>> Well, Frank the Wank, has deserted that thread when I proved that
> >>>> installing a printer and/or scanner on Ubuntu is MUCH easier than
> >>>> Windows of any flavor. Interesting how when Frank the Wank is refuted,
> >>>> he goes and hides in a corner, hoping no one will notice.
> >>> BS, and many printers are not supported. I moved a distant family friend
> >>> to Ubuntu about 4 months ago, and only 2 printers from BestBuy and
> >>> Circuit city were supported in a LIMITED manner. Their older Epson
> >>> printer was not supported, nor was their older Cannon
> >>> fax/scanner/printer supported.
> >>>
> >>> I just installed a Okidata C5500 printer in my office, took about 2
> >>> minutes, and it's printing just fine - the Ubuntu machine didn't even
> >>> see it.
> >>>
> >> You can find printers and scanners that don't work with Vista. I never
> >> said Okidata or Canon work with Ubuntu. I did say that the Epsons and
> >> HPs that I have installed installed out of the box and were much easier
> >> to install on Ubuntu than Windows. HP even provides, by default, a
> >> control panel in Ubuntu.
> >
> > Alias, the fact remains that every printer that is sold in the common
> > market at "Big Box" stores works with Vista right now, even the scanners
> > work with them. Yes, I'm sure that you could dig up some 4 year old
> > scanner in the warehouse at BestBuy that was returned 2 years ago, that
> > doesn't work with vists, but that would be unlikely.
>
> Not relevant.

Yes, it's very relevant as this discussion is in the PUBLIC Area and not
limited to Alias's owned hardware little world. You made a claim, it's
not founded in the real world, only in your small example based on the
hardware YOU have.

I've shown that most big box stores don't carry printers that are
supported under Ubuntu and that makes it a significant problem for most
people that would switch from Windows to Ubuntu.

> > I have installed Ubuntu many times, found that most printers that people
> > have don't work with Ubuntu and the ones that do work are often limited
> > in their special functions.
>
> Like what "special features"? My HP has the same features with Ubuntu
> that it has with XP.

Scanning, Image enhancement options, etc... It's not about "Your HP"
it's about printers in general - and that's what this thread is about,
it's not limited to your personal experience as being how the public
will also experience Ubuntu printer compatibility on their printer.


> > It's nothing against Ubuntu, it's a good
> > product, but it's not anywhere near as hardware friendly as Windows or
> > even a MAC.
>
> Like I said, to install a Linux friendly printer is easier than
> installing the same printer on any flavor of Windows.

Not true - in fact, there is nothing to installing many printers on
Windows - jut connect the USB cable and it's done, you might have to
click next a couple times.

>
> >
> > As for HP, I would never own an HP Color printer, they don't have the
> > quality that many others have/provide - for a BW laser printer it's a
> > given, HP wins, but the thread is about Ubuntu and printers/scanners,
> > and that is an area that Ubuntu is very lacking in.
>
> I'm very happy with my HP printer and scanner. It does everything I
> need, be it with XP or Ubuntu.

And your comment, again, is limited to one HP printer. I happen to have
hundreds of printers and dozens of different color laser printers and
dozens of copier/scanner/printer devices, and few are supported under
Ubuntu - I've checked the list. If you were to check what is available
at BestBuy or CircuitCity and then check the compatability list for
printers under Ubuntu you would know that Ubuntu is NOT as easy to get
printers working as Windows is.

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In article <_c-dnXMOT7g5rJLVnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@giganews.com>,
nospam@spammer.com says...
> As far as I am concerned, I have 4-5 perfectly fine working manufacturers
> to choose from. So I simply avoid the one manufacturer I know doesn't
> work and call it a day. So even if XP or Vista on the bottom line support
> more printers in total, the only one that matters is the one I have and
> it's more than easy and simple enough to choose one that is supported
> across the board.

This thread didn't seem to be limited to one person's hardware for the
case in point, it was open ended, based on the subject, as to any
printer, any vendor....

I'm sure that if we based our selections only on printers that were
fully supported, we could both find specific printers that installed
wihtout any effort by the users.

What matters is the experience that MOST people will have when they make
the switch from Windows to Linux, and most proeple will have problems
with printers and multi-function devices.

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Leythos wrote:
> In article <_c-dnXMOT7g5rJLVnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@giganews.com>,
> nospam@spammer.com says...
>> As far as I am concerned, I have 4-5 perfectly fine working manufacturers
>> to choose from. So I simply avoid the one manufacturer I know doesn't
>> work and call it a day. So even if XP or Vista on the bottom line support
>> more printers in total, the only one that matters is the one I have and
>> it's more than easy and simple enough to choose one that is supported
>> across the board.
>
> This thread didn't seem to be limited to one person's hardware for the
> case in point, it was open ended, based on the subject, as to any
> printer, any vendor....

You didn't see the thread that this one referred to, did you? I
specifically was referring to Epson and HP printers and scanners.

>
> I'm sure that if we based our selections only on printers that were
> fully supported, we could both find specific printers that installed
> wihtout any effort by the users.
>
> What matters is the experience that MOST people will have when they make
> the switch from Windows to Linux, and most proeple will have problems
> with printers and multi-function devices.

Not if they have an Epson or HP, they don't. Course, the last Ubuntu you
installed and tested was?

Alias
 
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <fult02$3p1$1@aioe.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>> iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ful6nt$8e6$2@aioe.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> iamalias@removegmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Frank the Wank, has deserted that thread when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proved that installing a printer and/or scanner on Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is MUCH easier than Windows of any flavor. Interesting how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when Frank the Wank is refuted, he goes and hides in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corner, hoping no one will notice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BS, and many printers are not supported. I moved a distant
>>>>>>>>>>>>> family friend to Ubuntu about 4 months ago, and only 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> printers from BestBuy and Circuit city were supported in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LIMITED manner. Their older Epson printer was not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supported, nor was their older Cannon fax/scanner/printer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supported.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just installed a Okidata C5500 printer in my office, took
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 minutes, and it's printing just fine - the Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine didn't even see it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can find printers and scanners that don't work with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. I never said Okidata or Canon work with Ubuntu. I did
>>>>>>>>>>>> say that the Epsons and HPs that I have installed installed
>>>>>>>>>>>> out of the box and were much easier to install on Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>>> than Windows. HP even provides, by default, a control panel
>>>>>>>>>>>> in Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alias, the fact remains that every printer that is sold in
>>>>>>>>>>> the common market at "Big Box" stores works with Vista right
>>>>>>>>>>> now, even the scanners work with them. Yes, I'm sure that you
>>>>>>>>>>> could dig up some 4 year old scanner in the warehouse at
>>>>>>>>>>> BestBuy that was returned 2 years ago, that doesn't work with
>>>>>>>>>>> vists, but that would be unlikely.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not relevant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Most relevant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have installed Ubuntu many times, found that most printers
>>>>>>>>>>> that people have don't work with Ubuntu and the ones that do
>>>>>>>>>>> work are often limited in their special functions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Like what "special features"? My HP has the same features with
>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu that it has with XP.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's nothing against Ubuntu, it's a good product, but it's
>>>>>>>>>>> not anywhere near as hardware friendly as Windows or even a MAC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Like I said, to install a Linux friendly printer is easier
>>>>>>>>>> than installing the same printer on any flavor of Windows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is simply not true. You're out of touch with reality. You
>>>>>>>>> don't have Vista, so you don't know. Stop lying!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not lying. You are (again).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As for HP, I would never own an HP Color printer, they don't
>>>>>>>>>>> have the quality that many others have/provide - for a BW
>>>>>>>>>>> laser printer it's a given, HP wins, but the thread is about
>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu and printers/scanners, and that is an area that Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>> is very lacking in.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm very happy with my HP printer and scanner. It does
>>>>>>>>>> everything I need, be it with XP or Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good for you, huh?
>>>>>>>>> I guess you don't care about the millions using Canon and Epson
>>>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>>>> Figures.
>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Epson works just fine with Ubuntu. It's Canon's fault (and
>>>>>>>> Lexmark's for that matter) that they don't support Ubuntu. As
>>>>>>>> more people switch to Ubuntu, you will see more support from the
>>>>>>>> likes of Canon and Lexmark.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're a liar! Supply the URL to Epson linux
>>>>>>> drivers...printer/scanners...!
>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Man, you're dumb. As I have told you now some three or four times,
>>>>>> there is no need for an URL. Plug in the Epson, Ubuntu recognizes
>>>>>> it, installs the drivers and you're set to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry sheep-fukker, but that is simply not true. Try lying to those
>>>>> little old ladies that you rip off...LOL!
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The man who has an Epson would be surprised because he's been using
>>>> it to print for over a year now.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> There are no Epson drivers for linux. Post the URL to them or else
>>> look like the fool you are.
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> I didn't get them from an URL so I'm afraid I can't help you. No need
>> to download drivers or insert a CD. Ubuntu does it automagically like
>> it does so many things. Live with it and get the fuçk over it.
>>
>> Alias
> Liar! We all know you're a liar.
> Frank

More wishful thinking?

Alias
 
Re: Ubuntu, Printers, Scanners and alias the lying linux troll...

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <fult02$3p1$1@aioe.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ful6nt$8e6$2@aioe.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iamalias@removegmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Frank the Wank, has deserted that thread when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proved that installing a printer and/or scanner on Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is MUCH easier than Windows of any flavor. Interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how when Frank the Wank is refuted, he goes and hides in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a corner, hoping no one will notice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BS, and many printers are not supported. I moved a distant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family friend to Ubuntu about 4 months ago, and only 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printers from BestBuy and Circuit city were supported in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LIMITED manner. Their older Epson printer was not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supported, nor was their older Cannon fax/scanner/printer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supported.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just installed a Okidata C5500 printer in my office,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took about 2 minutes, and it's printing just fine - the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu machine didn't even see it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can find printers and scanners that don't work with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. I never said Okidata or Canon work with Ubuntu. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did say that the Epsons and HPs that I have installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed out of the box and were much easier to install on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu than Windows. HP even provides, by default, a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> control panel in Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias, the fact remains that every printer that is sold in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the common market at "Big Box" stores works with Vista right
>>>>>>>>>>>> now, even the scanners work with them. Yes, I'm sure that
>>>>>>>>>>>> you could dig up some 4 year old scanner in the warehouse at
>>>>>>>>>>>> BestBuy that was returned 2 years ago, that doesn't work
>>>>>>>>>>>> with vists, but that would be unlikely.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not relevant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Most relevant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have installed Ubuntu many times, found that most printers
>>>>>>>>>>>> that people have don't work with Ubuntu and the ones that do
>>>>>>>>>>>> work are often limited in their special functions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like what "special features"? My HP has the same features
>>>>>>>>>>> with Ubuntu that it has with XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's nothing against Ubuntu, it's a good product, but it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> not anywhere near as hardware friendly as Windows or even a
>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like I said, to install a Linux friendly printer is easier
>>>>>>>>>>> than installing the same printer on any flavor of Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is simply not true. You're out of touch with reality. You
>>>>>>>>>> don't have Vista, so you don't know. Stop lying!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not lying. You are (again).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As for HP, I would never own an HP Color printer, they don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> have the quality that many others have/provide - for a BW
>>>>>>>>>>>> laser printer it's a given, HP wins, but the thread is about
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu and printers/scanners, and that is an area that
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu is very lacking in.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm very happy with my HP printer and scanner. It does
>>>>>>>>>>> everything I need, be it with XP or Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good for you, huh?
>>>>>>>>>> I guess you don't care about the millions using Canon and
>>>>>>>>>> Epson right?
>>>>>>>>>> Figures.
>>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Epson works just fine with Ubuntu. It's Canon's fault (and
>>>>>>>>> Lexmark's for that matter) that they don't support Ubuntu. As
>>>>>>>>> more people switch to Ubuntu, you will see more support from
>>>>>>>>> the likes of Canon and Lexmark.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're a liar! Supply the URL to Epson linux
>>>>>>>> drivers...printer/scanners...!
>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Man, you're dumb. As I have told you now some three or four
>>>>>>> times, there is no need for an URL. Plug in the Epson, Ubuntu
>>>>>>> recognizes it, installs the drivers and you're set to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry sheep-fukker, but that is simply not true. Try lying to
>>>>>> those little old ladies that you rip off...LOL!
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The man who has an Epson would be surprised because he's been using
>>>>> it to print for over a year now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are no Epson drivers for linux. Post the URL to them or else
>>>> look like the fool you are.
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't get them from an URL so I'm afraid I can't help you. No need
>>> to download drivers or insert a CD. Ubuntu does it automagically like
>>> it does so many things. Live with it and get the fuçk over it.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> Liar! We all know you're a liar.
>> Frank
>
>
> More wishful thinking?
>
> Alias

You're alias! We all know it.
Frank
 
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <fult02$3p1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@nukethisgmail.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <ful6nt$8e6$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, Frank the Wank, has deserted that thread when I proved
>>>>>>>> that installing a printer and/or scanner on Ubuntu is MUCH
>>>>>>>> easier than Windows of any flavor. Interesting how when Frank
>>>>>>>> the Wank is refuted, he goes and hides in a corner, hoping no
>>>>>>>> one will notice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BS, and many printers are not supported. I moved a distant family
>>>>>>> friend to Ubuntu about 4 months ago, and only 2 printers from
>>>>>>> BestBuy and Circuit city were supported in a LIMITED manner.
>>>>>>> Their older Epson printer was not supported, nor was their older
>>>>>>> Cannon fax/scanner/printer supported.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just installed a Okidata C5500 printer in my office, took about
>>>>>>> 2 minutes, and it's printing just fine - the Ubuntu machine
>>>>>>> didn't even see it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can find printers and scanners that don't work with Vista. I
>>>>>> never said Okidata or Canon work with Ubuntu. I did say that the
>>>>>> Epsons and HPs that I have installed installed out of the box and
>>>>>> were much easier to install on Ubuntu than Windows. HP even
>>>>>> provides, by default, a control panel in Ubuntu.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias, the fact remains that every printer that is sold in the
>>>>> common market at "Big Box" stores works with Vista right now, even
>>>>> the scanners work with them. Yes, I'm sure that you could dig up
>>>>> some 4 year old scanner in the warehouse at BestBuy that was
>>>>> returned 2 years ago, that doesn't work with vists, but that would
>>>>> be unlikely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not relevant.
>>>
>>>
>>> Most relevant.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have installed Ubuntu many times, found that most printers that
>>>>> people have don't work with Ubuntu and the ones that do work are
>>>>> often limited in their special functions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like what "special features"? My HP has the same features with
>>>> Ubuntu that it has with XP.
>>>>
>>>>> It's nothing against Ubuntu, it's a good product, but it's not
>>>>> anywhere near as hardware friendly as Windows or even a MAC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like I said, to install a Linux friendly printer is easier than
>>>> installing the same printer on any flavor of Windows.
>>>
>>>
>>> That is simply not true. You're out of touch with reality. You don't
>>> have Vista, so you don't know. Stop lying!
>>
>>
>> I'm not lying. You are (again).
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As for HP, I would never own an HP Color printer, they don't have
>>>>> the quality that many others have/provide - for a BW laser printer
>>>>> it's a given, HP wins, but the thread is about Ubuntu and
>>>>> printers/scanners, and that is an area that Ubuntu is very lacking in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm very happy with my HP printer and scanner. It does everything I
>>>> need, be it with XP or Ubuntu.
>>>
>>>
>>> Good for you, huh?
>>> I guess you don't care about the millions using Canon and Epson right?
>>> Figures.
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Epson works just fine with Ubuntu. It's Canon's fault (and Lexmark's
>> for that matter) that they don't support Ubuntu. As more people switch
>> to Ubuntu, you will see more support from the likes of Canon and Lexmark.
>>
>> Alias
>
> You're a liar! Supply the URL to Epson linux drivers...printer/scanners...!
> Frank

http://avasys.jp/hp/menu000000500/hpg000000442.htm
--
norm
 
In article <fuoh8g$s0r$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com says...
>
> I can see the last time you installed Ubuntu was a couple of versions
> ago. I have a brand new HP F4180 All in One and it works perfectly and
> the Ubuntu Gutsy HP Control Center recognizes it and allows me to do all
> kinds of things with it. Get back to me after you test Hardy Heron that
> comes out tomorrow.

Face it sonny, you're wrong about it being easier, since it doesn't
support most printers. And I downloaded and used the version from last
month, so you're wrong again.

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drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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Leythos wrote:
> In article <fuoh8g$s0r$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com says...
>> I can see the last time you installed Ubuntu was a couple of versions
>> ago. I have a brand new HP F4180 All in One and it works perfectly and
>> the Ubuntu Gutsy HP Control Center recognizes it and allows me to do all
>> kinds of things with it. Get back to me after you test Hardy Heron that
>> comes out tomorrow.
>
> Face it sonny, you're wrong about it being easier, since it doesn't
> support most printers. And I downloaded and used the version from last
> month, so you're wrong again.
>

It supports most HP and Epson printers. How many of those did you try?

Alias
 
Alias wrote:
> Leythos wrote:
>
>> In article <fuoh8g$s0r$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@removegmail.com says...
>>
>>> I can see the last time you installed Ubuntu was a couple of versions
>>> ago. I have a brand new HP F4180 All in One and it works perfectly
>>> and the Ubuntu Gutsy HP Control Center recognizes it and allows me to
>>> do all kinds of things with it. Get back to me after you test Hardy
>>> Heron that comes out tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> Face it sonny, you're wrong about it being easier, since it doesn't
>> support most printers. And I downloaded and used the version from last
>> month, so you're wrong again.
>
>
> It supports most HP and Epson printers. How many of those did you try?
>
> Alias

Bullsh*t! Official support maybe for some HP's but nothing for Epson, or
Canon.
Stop lying, ok!
Frank
 
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