Vista vs Linux

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I wonder if now this ng can have a discussion on the merits of Vista vs
Linux.

If so then I can see that printing and scanning are the items in Vista
favor. Everything else, except for some standardization of where
applications are stored (what folders) appears to be in favor of Linux.
There also appears to be less things in Linux that one finds very annoying.
 
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:41:12 +0300, "leapfrog vista"
<leapfrog@vizztal.com> wrote:

>you are trying to bait franky-poo? lol good try....
>
>But its strange that all of the regulars have vanish simultaneously
>
>Frank, Spanky, Bill Yanair, Alias, and Ringmaster....
>
>perhaps they are in reality actually only one person with a very severe
>case of split personality syndrome!

Hey, don't lump me in with the three stooges, Frank, Spanky and
Yanaire. Together those three don't have the intelligence of a nat.
 
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:53:26 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:41:12 +0300, "leapfrog vista"
> <leapfrog@vizztal.com> wrote:
>
>>you are trying to bait franky-poo? lol good try....
>>
>>But its strange that all of the regulars have vanish simultaneously
>>
>>Frank, Spanky, Bill Yanair, Alias, and Ringmaster....
>>
>>perhaps they are in reality actually only one person with a very severe
>>case of split personality syndrome!
>
> Hey, don't lump me in with the three stooges, Frank, Spanky and
> Yanaire. Together those three don't have the intelligence of a nat.

So what do you think happened to them? I do not think they all went on
vacation at the same time nor do I think they are the same person.
 
nah... you are one of the smartest guys I have seen posting in this
newsgroup...

the exact opposite of the 3 stooges that are the dumbest people I have seen
in here.

:-) but where did everyone go? Not that I miss them... this newsgroup
improved 1000% these days that they are not here.



"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
news:b4cic4l003r0qmvd9l6kqjifav6qfn1124@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:41:12 +0300, "leapfrog vista"
> <leapfrog@vizztal.com> wrote:
>
>>you are trying to bait franky-poo? lol good try....
>>
>>But its strange that all of the regulars have vanish simultaneously
>>
>>Frank, Spanky, Bill Yanair, Alias, and Ringmaster....
>>
>>perhaps they are in reality actually only one person with a very severe
>>case of split personality syndrome!
>
> Hey, don't lump me in with the three stooges, Frank, Spanky and
> Yanaire. Together those three don't have the intelligence of a nat.
 
Re: Vista vs LinuxThe real Three Stooges...

#1 idiot moron loser capin' crunch wrote:

----------------------------------------

The real three stooges:

ringbastard, capin' crunch, and measher-shit-head.
 
measekite wrote:
> I wonder if now this ng can have a discussion on the merits of Vista vs
> Linux.

In between Frank's drivel, perhaps.

>
> If so then I can see that printing and scanning are the items in Vista
> favor. Everything else, except for some standardization of where
> applications are stored (what folders) appears to be in favor of Linux.
> There also appears to be less things in Linux that one finds very annoying.

I have an HP AllinONE and the printer took three clicks to install and
the scanner was ready to scan with XSane once it found the scanner.
Avoid Canon, Brother and Lexmark and you're good to go with Ubuntu.

Alias
 
"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
news:MS9yk.24892$xZ.23435@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>I wonder if now this ng can have a discussion on the merits of Vista vs
>Linux.
>
> If so then I can see that printing and scanning are the items in Vista
> favor. Everything else, except for some standardization of where
> applications are stored (what folders) appears to be in favor of Linux.
> There also appears to be less things in Linux that one finds very
> annoying.

Well, one problem with Linux is that the majority of the Linux users who
cannot help but visit Windows groups post inane drivel. There are some Linux
users on here who are genuinely helpful (and thank you once again for that),
but to me the majority do not seem to have the first clue about the real
world.

BTW...does the OP actually have a clue? Are not printing and scanning
heavily dependant upon the manufacturer's drivers? If it was supposed to be
a trick question, then it fails miserably. And as for the second point?
Pffft...nutcase!! :-)

I must admit, though, that I've found less annoying things in Linux, because
all I can usually bear doing is playing some of the games, and trying out
the screensavers! :-)

Cheers

JW
 
Re: Vista vs LinuxThe real Three Stooges...

Frank wrote:
> #1 idiot moron loser capin' crunch wrote:
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> The real three stooges:
>
> ringbastard, capin' crunch, and measher-shit-head.

Now you've gone and hurt my feelings by not including me in your
delusions. Sniff, sniff.

Alias
 
"Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:gabdc3$qb1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> measekite wrote:
>> I wonder if now this ng can have a discussion on the merits of Vista vs
>> Linux.
>
> In between Frank's drivel, perhaps.
>
>>
>> If so then I can see that printing and scanning are the items in Vista
>> favor. Everything else, except for some standardization of where
>> applications are stored (what folders) appears to be in favor of Linux.
>> There also appears to be less things in Linux that one finds very
>> annoying.
>
> I have an HP AllinONE and the printer took three clicks to install and the
> scanner was ready to scan with XSane once it found the scanner. Avoid
> Canon, Brother and Lexmark and you're good to go with Ubuntu.
>
> Alias

Oooohh...

You were the helpful Linux guy I meant in my other post Alias! :-)

But from past experience, I'd have to say that Canon is massively superior
to HP. And that's another reason to stick with Windows in my opinion!

JW
 
"leapfrog vista" <leapfrog@vizztal.com> wrote in news:48c92e24
@newsgate.x-privat.org:

> you are trying to bait franky-poo? lol good try....
>
> But its strange that all of the regulars have vanish simultaneously
>
> Frank, Spanky, Bill Yanair, Alias, and Ringmaster....
>> There also appears to be less things in Linux that one finds very
>> annoying.

Now you've gone and done it. It was very quiet (stupidity wise) in here
the last couple of days.

AA/RM has participated in some threads, one or two rant-like, and others
actual serious answers.

But, since Yaniere and Spanky hadn't been starting threads calling out
RM, and the psycho KevPan (did we decide that was actually Spanky ?) not
posting whatever innane and totally bizarre thoughts that appear in his
(or her) mind, it has been all Vista talk. Be it for or against, but no
mindless childish 'I know you are but what am I' stupidity.

(At least hat's what I see on motzarella.)

So tell me, who appears to be the real problem again ?

(Other than me that is.)
 
John Whitworth wrote:
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gabdc3$qb1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> measekite wrote:
>>> I wonder if now this ng can have a discussion on the merits of Vista
>>> vs Linux.
>>
>> In between Frank's drivel, perhaps.
>>
>>>
>>> If so then I can see that printing and scanning are the items in
>>> Vista favor. Everything else, except for some standardization of
>>> where applications are stored (what folders) appears to be in favor
>>> of Linux. There also appears to be less things in Linux that one
>>> finds very annoying.
>>
>> I have an HP AllinONE and the printer took three clicks to install and
>> the scanner was ready to scan with XSane once it found the scanner.
>> Avoid Canon, Brother and Lexmark and you're good to go with Ubuntu.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Oooohh...
>
> You were the helpful Linux guy I meant in my other post Alias! :-)

I'm an XP and Linux guy. There's an XP sitting behind me running a virus
scan as I type. Poor devils, it was chock full of blue meanies.

> But from past experience, I'd have to say that Canon is massively
> superior to HP. And that's another reason to stick with Windows in my
> opinion!
>
> JW

Well, if you need super high quality printing, perhaps Canon is better
I don't know. I just did some posters with HP on photographic paper and
it looked as professional as when you take it to a printer and I don't
have a high end HP by any means.

Alias
 
John Whitworth wrote:
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gabdc3$qb1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> measekite wrote:
>>> I wonder if now this ng can have a discussion on the merits of Vista
>>> vs Linux.
>>
>> In between Frank's drivel, perhaps.
>>
>>>
>>> If so then I can see that printing and scanning are the items in
>>> Vista favor. Everything else, except for some standardization of
>>> where applications are stored (what folders) appears to be in favor
>>> of Linux. There also appears to be less things in Linux that one
>>> finds very annoying.
>>
>> I have an HP AllinONE and the printer took three clicks to install and
>> the scanner was ready to scan with XSane once it found the scanner.
>> Avoid Canon, Brother and Lexmark and you're good to go with Ubuntu.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Oooohh...
>
> You were the helpful Linux guy I meant in my other post Alias! :-)

I'm an XP and Linux guy. There's an XP sitting behind me running a virus
scan as I type. Poor devils, it was chock full of blue meanies.

> But from past experience, I'd have to say that Canon is massively
> superior to HP. And that's another reason to stick with Windows in my
> opinion!
>
> JW

Well, if you need super high quality printing, perhaps Canon is better
I don't know. I just did some posters with HP on photographic paper and
it looked as professional as when you take it to a printer and I don't
have a high end HP by any means.

Alias
 
measekite wrote:
> I wonder if now this ng can have a discussion on the merits of Vista vs
> Linux.
>
> If so then I can see that printing and scanning are the items in Vista
> favor. Everything else, except for some standardization of where
> applications are stored (what folders) appears to be in favor of Linux.
> There also appears to be less things in Linux that one finds very annoying.

Games have a much stronger market in Windows also, but everything is
emerging and getting better in Linux. Cloud computing and web 2.0 will
level the playing field considerably.

--
"...every non-modular OS SUCKS...Speaking for myself only."
- zachd [MSFT]

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101
 
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:24:43 -0700, measekite <inkystinky@oem.com>
wrote:

>I wonder if now this ng can have a discussion on the merits of Vista vs
>Linux.
>
>If so then I can see that printing and scanning are the items in Vista
>favor. Everything else, except for some standardization of where
>applications are stored (what folders) appears to be in favor of Linux.
>There also appears to be less things in Linux that one finds very annoying.

Your printing and scanning problems are no doubt due to not using
factory inks in your printers.
 
> I wonder if now this ng can have a discussion on the merits of Vista vs
> Linux.

On the desktop? I've got both, and personally I prefer Vista to Ubuntu,
although putting aside all the fan-boys and trolls on either side, they both
do a very similar job.

The role of an OS is to provide a raft of services to the applications
along with a set of management/administrative tools for controlling its
behaviour and a set of basic user tools for moving and copying files, etc.

Both Linux and Vista provide all of those.

There are two reasons why I prefer Vista. Firstly, Linux is only
superficially "easy": you don't need to go very deep into its inner workings
before it gets seriously scary, with some pretty arcane terminology and
convoluted processes to follow.

Secondly, I find the user interface of Vista (and XP) to be a bit more
"polished" than any of the big Linux distros. They just feel that bit more
"messy" and "amateurish", somehow. Of course, this is entirely subjective
and many people will feel the opposite.

It used to be the case that Linux was more reliable than Windows, and had
better security. I don't think either are true, now. I took care to
install Vista onto fully compatible hardware, and I have to say it's been
totally, utterly and completely rock solid. No BSODs, no freezes - it just
keeps working. Any my machine runs continuously - the only time it gets a
reboot is on the rare occasions when an update requires it.

As for security... well, if you look at the independent monitors it's clear
that Vista has had fewer security vulnerabilities than XP did, and indeed
over the past year it's been about the same as the Linux distros, perhaps
slightly better.

So, frankly, in terms of reliability, security, and basic OS functionality,
I don't think there's much to choose between Linux and Vista. But
personally I much prefer the overall user experience of Vista compared with
any of the six Linux distros I've played with over these past few months.

And that seems to be what it boils down to: personal preference.

SteveT
 
+Bob+ <uctraing@ultranet.com> wrote in
news:83jic4dtrqug35obf70kt8b18uvm620mja@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:24:43 -0700, measekite <inkystinky@oem.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I wonder if now this ng can have a discussion on the merits of Vista
>>vs Linux.
>>
>>If so then I can see that printing and scanning are the items in Vista
>>favor. Everything else, except for some standardization of where
>>applications are stored (what folders) appears to be in favor of
>>Linux. There also appears to be less things in Linux that one finds
>>very annoying.
>
> Your printing and scanning problems are no doubt due to not using
> factory inks in your printers.

I'd think it's driver oriented problems he speaks of.

In the past, I've always purchased printers in which the cartridges where
ink tanks, and nothing else, usually Epson. That way, you can replace the
ink cartridges with low-cost replacement cartridges...meaning you can
replace both color and black for $10-$11, instead of $70 or more. (I've
never re-filled any.)

If the replacment's were that expensive, it'd almost be worth it to just
buy a whole new printer when the ink runs out.
 
Linux is a subset of UNIX (Windows intially based on DOS) - other than the
"Windows type" graphical interface comparisons of the inner workings between
the OSs is difficult - As a matter of fact UNIX is availabale with a Windows
type interface.

Programming Linux directly involves UNIX type DOS commands - result is as
Steve states in his reply:
"...you don't need to go very deep into its inner workings before it gets
seriously scary, with some pretty arcane terminology and convoluted
processes...."
- primary advantage of UNIX is that you can create your own command
structure.

"+Bob+" <uctraing@ultranet.com> wrote in message
news:83jic4dtrqug35obf70kt8b18uvm620mja@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:24:43 -0700, measekite <inkystinky@oem.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I wonder if now this ng can have a discussion on the merits of Vista vs
>>Linux.
>>
>>If so then I can see that printing and scanning are the items in Vista
>>favor. Everything else, except for some standardization of where
>>applications are stored (what folders) appears to be in favor of Linux.
>>There also appears to be less things in Linux that one finds very
>>annoying.
>
> Your printing and scanning problems are no doubt due to not using
> factory inks in your printers.
>
 
"AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%23Nw36REFJHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Linux is a subset of UNIX (Windows intially based on DOS) - other than the
> "Windows type" graphical interface comparisons of the inner workings
> between the OSs is difficult - As a matter of fact UNIX is availabale with
> a Windows type interface.
>
> Programming Linux directly involves UNIX type DOS commands - result is as
> Steve states in his reply:
> "...you don't need to go very deep into its inner workings before it gets
> seriously scary, with some pretty arcane terminology and convoluted
> processes...."
> - primary advantage of UNIX is that you can create your own command
> structure.

Er, context?

ss.
 
In article <#Nw36REFJHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
AJR <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote:
>Linux is a subset of UNIX (Windows intially based on DOS) - other than the

No, Linux is a unix like OS written from scratch by some guy in
Finland. It's no more Unix then AIX is.

>Programming Linux directly involves UNIX type DOS commands -

Programming Linux directly involves the C compiler.
 
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:26:56 +0200, Alias wrote:

> measekite wrote:
>> I wonder if now this ng can have a discussion on the merits of Vista vs
>> Linux.
>
> In between Frank's drivel, perhaps.
>
>
>> If so then I can see that printing and scanning are the items in Vista
>> favor. Everything else, except for some standardization of where
>> applications are stored (what folders) appears to be in favor of Linux.
>> There also appears to be less things in Linux that one finds very
>> annoying.
>
> I have an HP AllinONE and the printer took three clicks to install and
> the scanner was ready to scan with XSane once it found the scanner.
> Avoid Canon, Brother and Lexmark and you're good to go with Ubuntu.
>
> Alias

Interesting - I've found zero problems with the Brother HL1440 on any
Linux distro. I used to use Lexmark laser printers and they worked quite
well. But I agree about Canon - I avoid them completely.
 
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