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[NoStop]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

dennis@home wrote:

>
> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:FDGzi.89821$fJ5.55211@pd7urf1no...
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:v%Fzi.89778$fJ5.27633@pd7urf1no...
>>>
>>>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her
>>>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway.
>>>
>>> That is not a surprise..
>>>
>> Certainly seems to be a surprise to you, as you've obviously clueless.
>
> I usually find that its the clueless that resort to calling people
> clueless.. those of us that have some knowledge are usually quite happy to
> help educate others.. you appear to lack anything to educate even the most
> basic user with even though you claim to know much.
>
>>
>> I run a WRT54G router that runs a hacked Linux firmware package. This
>> allows
>> it to continuely feed its log files to a dedicated computer that shows me
>> who's knocking on my door. There are constant attempts to open up ports
>> 445
>> and 135 thanks to all the compromised Windoze boxes out there. Of course,
>> the router stops these attacks, but it sure does show how bad things are
>> out there on the Net - THANKS TO WINDOZE.
>>
>> Learn more about Port 445 - Microsoft's big mistake and what you Wintards
>> need to do about it ...
>
> You need to learn about computers by the way you talk...
>
I think I know something about computers. I've been using them since '79.

> First.. grc is not a good site.. he doesn't have a clue which you would
> know if you had a clue.
>
> Second.. the probes on port 445 aren't all windows boxes and aren't all
> exploits in the first place.
>
Of course they're exploits when open to the Net. No one running Samba would
intentionally open those ports to the Net, doofus.


> Do you actually have anything interesting to say or is it all kiddy level
> stuff?

Obviously, what I have to say is way above your level of understanding. But,
that figures, since you're the Wintard.

Cheers.


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[Alias]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>> wrote:
>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:32:57 -0500] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina
>>>>>> DiBoy'
>>>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:02:35 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina
>>>>>>>> DiBoy'
>>>>>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:50:25 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina
>>>>>>>>>> DiBoy
>>>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nina DiBoy'
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marketing for Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Rose said about | spamming, I came to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusion that he has a point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me, visit the | Ubuntu forums or Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribing from this ng.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | -- | Alias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a troll full
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of lies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hypocrite!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young
>>>>>>>>>>>> hormones ("My
>>>>>>>>>>>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing
>>>>>>>>>>>> weird things to
>>>>>>>>>>>> his developing mind...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>>>>> I was talking about you, not him.
>>>>>>>>>> How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?
>>>>>>>>>> Don't shoot the messenger!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>>> You are being a hypocrite because you are calling alias a troll
>>>>>>>>> for posting ubuntu stuff, yet you do the same yourself in this
>>>>>>>>> very group, just like Dick (Richard) Urban, MVP did. Dick
>>>>>>>>> should stop setting such a bad example for the rest of the
>>>>>>>>> kiddies in this group!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/msg/8f9e4b23ebc52750
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't agree.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again you are shooting at the messenger, only because *you*
>>>>>>>> don't like
>>>>>>>> the message.
>>>>>>>> That's silly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>> 'The Message' is off topic and makes you look like a troll. If
>>>>>>> you are the messenger, what higher authority charged you with the
>>>>>>> divine task of making that post here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Get serious! It makes you look like a Ballmer Butt Boy and an MS
>>>>>>> shill.
>>>>>> You must be joking!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you really believe that I need your permission to post in this
>>>>>> group
>>>>>> here?
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, and I'm not sure where you get that idea either.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If my message is off topic, then how is possible that it generated
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> an enormous and totally unexpected response?
>>>>> You just defined the very art of trolling.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously some people felt the need to vent, obviously my message
>>>>>> is not
>>>>>> off topic.
>>>>> How is Ubuntu not off topic in a vista newsgroup?
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the Usenet, if you don't like a thread, simply skip it, but
>>>>>> don't tell me what I can and cannot do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marco
>>>>> I never did tell you 'what you can or cannot do'. Just stating an
>>>>> observation.
>>>>
>>>> You are quite obviously spoiling for a flame war.
>>>> I am not interested.
>>>> End of discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Marco
>>>
>>> Whatever, No skin off of my back. You and Dick MVP are the
>>> hypocrites who won't even answer a simple question like 'How is
>>> Ubuntu not off topic in a vista newsgroup?'
>>>
>>
>> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,
>> WPA and WGA nonsense
>>
>
> Good answer, and I'd actually accept that answer from these bozos if
> their posts about ubuntu were in reply to help another poster (as your
> are). Since their ubuntu posts have been the start of a new thread
> ripping on it, that makes it completely off topic and they won't even
> stand up like men and admit it!
>

Cornered rats usually don't.

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[Adam Flame-boy Albright]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Alias Ubuntu obsessed *79*. Could I be Au79 I wonder ??? wrote:

<snipped>

> Cornered rats like me usually troll more than one NG, spreading my
> soapbox gospel. You know a Linux tooting rat like me can't change my spots.
> Further observation of me will be needed, to make a determination.

 

[Frank]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

NoStop wrote:

> dennis@home wrote:
>
>
>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:h7Fzi.89730$fJ5.18832@pd7urf1no...
>>
>>>dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,
>>>>>WPA
>>>>>and WGA nonsense
>>>>
>>>>Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.
>>>>However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and
>>>>stuff that isn't true doesn't help anyone.
>>>>
>>>>It looks like either..
>>>>
>>>>A: you don't know what you are talking about.
>>>>
>>>>or, more probable,
>>>>
>>>>B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to
>>>>install software so that you can exploit it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have shown you
>>>>evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?
>>>
>>>Because, out-of-box, it is 1000s safer than Windoze is.
>>
>>That does not equal safe, not in any reasonable persons mind.
>
>
> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her
> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway. That has NEVER
> been an issue. So, I guess, for those of us that know better, we are
> reasonably content that having left Windoze, we can concentrate on using
> our computers for productive work rather than baby sit it constantly
> against outside attacks. If you chose to continue to worry about, well go
> ahead. It's the Windoze mindset to start with.
>
> Cheers.
>

Let me introduce you to someone who has never, ever been infected by
anything running Windows from their very first RTM of WinX...meet
me...Frank. And I'm sure I'm not alone seeing as how all the people in
all the businesses I deal with have never been infected running windows.
As for being productive in a business atmosphere, Windows is the major
choice then Apple and then well...who knows as I don't know any other
OS's used by all the businesses I deal with. Not one linux business user
do I know of.
So run your mouth all you want about how secure linux is, I for one find
Windows just as secure as any install of any linux distro.
So what you say is in reality, not true...which makes you another lying
linux loser.
Which also begs the question...why are you here...other than to spread
more lies about MS and linux?
Frank

 

[Julian]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

"Frank" <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote in message

>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her
>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway. That has NEVER
>> been an issue. So, I guess, for those of us that know better, we are
>> reasonably content that having left Windoze, we can concentrate on using
>> our computers for productive work rather than baby sit it constantly
>> against outside attacks. If you chose to continue to worry about, well go
>> ahead. It's the Windoze mindset to start with.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>
> Let me introduce you to someone who has never, ever been infected by
> anything running Windows from their very first RTM of WinX...meet
> me...Frank. And I'm sure I'm not alone seeing as how all the people in all
> the businesses I deal with have never been infected running windows.
> As for being productive in a business atmosphere, Windows is the major
> choice then Apple and then well...who knows as I don't know any other OS's
> used by all the businesses I deal with. Not one linux business user do I
> know of.
> So run your mouth all you want about how secure linux is, I for one find
> Windows just as secure as any install of any linux distro.
> So what you say is in reality, not true...which makes you another lying
> linux loser.
> Which also begs the question...why are you here...other than to spread
> more lies about MS and linux?

Alias is here because, although the Linux groups are filled with
like-minded rabid 'tards, they keep laughing at him.

Here, in a smaller Linux pond, he can be a bigger fish.

 

[Terry R.]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

On 8/24/2007 5:57 PM On a whim, Frank pounded out on the keyboard

> NoStop wrote:
>
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:h7Fzi.89730$fJ5.18832@pd7urf1no...
>>>
>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,
>>>>>> WPA
>>>>>> and WGA nonsense
>>>>> Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.
>>>>> However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and
>>>>> stuff that isn't true doesn't help anyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like either..
>>>>>
>>>>> A: you don't know what you are talking about.
>>>>>
>>>>> or, more probable,
>>>>>
>>>>> B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to
>>>>> install software so that you can exploit it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have shown you
>>>>> evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?
>>>> Because, out-of-box, it is 1000s safer than Windoze is.
>>> That does not equal safe, not in any reasonable persons mind.
>>
>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her
>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway. That has NEVER
>> been an issue. So, I guess, for those of us that know better, we are
>> reasonably content that having left Windoze, we can concentrate on using
>> our computers for productive work rather than baby sit it constantly
>> against outside attacks. If you chose to continue to worry about, well go
>> ahead. It's the Windoze mindset to start with.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>
> Let me introduce you to someone who has never, ever been infected by
> anything running Windows from their very first RTM of WinX...meet
> me...Frank. And I'm sure I'm not alone seeing as how all the people in
> all the businesses I deal with have never been infected running windows.
> As for being productive in a business atmosphere, Windows is the major
> choice then Apple and then well...who knows as I don't know any other
> OS's used by all the businesses I deal with. Not one linux business user
> do I know of.
> So run your mouth all you want about how secure linux is, I for one find
> Windows just as secure as any install of any linux distro.
> So what you say is in reality, not true...which makes you another lying
> linux loser.
> Which also begs the question...why are you here...other than to spread
> more lies about MS and linux?
> Frank
>
>
>
>

You have NEVER had a virus or malware? And "all the businesses I deal
with have never been infected running windows". How do you know Frank?
Do you ask each and every user? Do you, a claimed business owner,
discuss viruses with other business owners? If you've NEVER had a virus
or malware, then all I can say is that you must be one lucky person, but
I don't believe your statement above and I doubt anyone else will
either. You can say you don't care what I believe (and I'm sure you
will) but it won't change anything.

I don't know ONE company or user who hasn't been infected either by a
virus or malware using Windows at one time or another. Even the
simplest of computer users within networks we admin, have wound up
getting a virus or malware, even with AV software. Heck, I've even
found them on my machine and I think I'm the most careful user I know
(it was years ago but the fact remains). It's one thing to try and bad
mouth Linux, but I don't think anyone here will give much validity to
you making statements like that.

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[Terry R.]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

On 8/24/2007 4:10 PM On a whim, dennis@home pounded out on the keyboard

> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:FDGzi.89821$fJ5.55211@pd7urf1no...
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:v%Fzi.89778$fJ5.27633@pd7urf1no...
>>>
>>>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her
>>>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway.
>>> That is not a surprise..
>>>
>> Certainly seems to be a surprise to you, as you've obviously clueless.
>
> I usually find that its the clueless that resort to calling people
> clueless.. those of us that have some knowledge are usually quite happy to
> help educate others.. you appear to lack anything to educate even the most
> basic user with even though you claim to know much.
>
>> I run a WRT54G router that runs a hacked Linux firmware package. This
>> allows
>> it to continuely feed its log files to a dedicated computer that shows me
>> who's knocking on my door. There are constant attempts to open up ports
>> 445
>> and 135 thanks to all the compromised Windoze boxes out there. Of course,
>> the router stops these attacks, but it sure does show how bad things are
>> out there on the Net - THANKS TO WINDOZE.
>>
>> Learn more about Port 445 - Microsoft's big mistake and what you Wintards
>> need to do about it ...
>
> You need to learn about computers by the way you talk...
>
> First.. grc is not a good site.. he doesn't have a clue which you would know
> if you had a clue.
>
> Second.. the probes on port 445 aren't all windows boxes and aren't all
> exploits in the first place.
>
> Do you actually have anything interesting to say or is it all kiddy level
> stuff?
>
>

Care to enlighten everyone why the Gibson Research site "is not a good
site" and "he doesn't have a clue"?

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[Adam Albright]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:17:02 -0700, "Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com>
wrote:

>You have NEVER had a virus or malware? And "all the businesses I deal
>with have never been infected running windows". How do you know Frank?

Frank seems more delusional than usual this evening. In over 30 years
of following Usenet I'm come across all kinds of kooks, but Frank is
by far one of the most screwed up, constantly lying full time fools
I've ever seen post to any newsgroup. Maybe he's proud of that
accomplishment. -)

 

[Frank]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Terry R. wrote:

>
> You have NEVER had a virus or malware?

No. And in small businesses I think that's fairly normal. I've heard
that a lot times in large businesses malcontent employees will
intentionally infect or bring down the company system.

And "all the businesses I deal
> with have never been infected running windows". How do you know Frank?
Do you ask each and every user? Do you, a claimed business owner,
> discuss viruses with other business owners?

Yes, I talk with the owners quite frequently. We discuss a variety of
technical issues.

If you've NEVER had a virus
> or malware, then all I can say is that you must be one lucky person,

Oh, I don't think "luck" has anything at all to do with it!

but
> I don't believe your statement above and I doubt anyone else will
> either.

Why is that? You think every window os in the entire world has to have
been infected at one time or another?
Is that correct?

You can say you don't care what I believe (and I'm sure you
> will) but it won't change anything.

I'm not the one trying to change someone statement. You are. Not me.
Frank

 

[Adam Flame-boy Albright]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Adam Hopalong aka Jerry Lewis ah he likes the boys wrote:

<snipped>


>
> I seem more delusional than usual this evening. In over 30 years
> of being an old *clown*, you'll never find a kook like me, and I am
> by far one of the most screwed up, constantly lying and a full time fool
> that's has ever posted to any newsgroup. I am proud of that
> accomplishment, because I just love the *boys*, I was never potty trained
> and I have dumped in all NG(s) over 30 years, just screwed up I guess.
> I am a nasty old dirty man, I am necked and sitting at my desk.

 

[Frank]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:17:02 -0700, "Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>You have NEVER had a virus or malware? And "all the businesses I deal
>>with have never been infected running windows". How do you know Frank?
>
>
> Frank seems more delusional than usual this evening. In over 30 years
> of following Usenet I'm come across all kinds of kooks, but Frank is
> by far one of the most screwed up, constantly lying full time fools
> I've ever seen post to any newsgroup. Maybe he's proud of that
> accomplishment. -)
>

hehehe...look at it this way mr genius, I'm not the one who can't even
get one simple install of Vista to run properly...mr genius (smirk)...lol!
Frank

 

[Terry R.]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

On 8/24/2007 7:53 PM On a whim, Frank pounded out on the keyboard

> Terry R. wrote:
>
>> You have NEVER had a virus or malware?
>
> No. And in small businesses I think that's fairly normal. I've heard
> that a lot times in large businesses malcontent employees will
> intentionally infect or bring down the company system.
>
> And "all the businesses I deal
>> with have never been infected running windows". How do you know Frank?
> Do you ask each and every user? Do you, a claimed business owner,
>> discuss viruses with other business owners?
>
> Yes, I talk with the owners quite frequently. We discuss a variety of
> technical issues.
>
> If you've NEVER had a virus
>> or malware, then all I can say is that you must be one lucky person,
>
> Oh, I don't think "luck" has anything at all to do with it!
>
> but
>> I don't believe your statement above and I doubt anyone else will
>> either.
>
> Why is that? You think every window os in the entire world has to have
> been infected at one time or another?
> Is that correct?
>
> You can say you don't care what I believe (and I'm sure you
>> will) but it won't change anything.
>
> I'm not the one trying to change someone statement. You are. Not me.
> Frank

You don't need to snip as it seems fit for you. Just leave the content
and answer what is asked.

1. In small businesses, that is NOT normal, nor with large businesses
or single users. You say you talk with the owners. Interesting. I
asked you a few months back about business matters and you said it
wasn't any of my business. But your business contacts don't feel that
way? And why would viruses be the topic of any discussion in a business
to business talk? We never even talk about it with business owners.
It's handled on an as needed basis.

Do you ask each and every user of these businesses? Rarely does an
owner of a company of any size know of issues concerning viruses or
malware, especially for individual employees. Most of the time, we
discover the problems on a workstation. The user is unaware of any
infection.

2. It could only be "luck". I've seen the best protected users get
infected, including myself. And yes, I really can't think of anyone
(individual or network) who hasn't had some virus or malware or some
sort over the years. You would be the first person (you aren't claiming
the same for your business users so I'm guessing it's not the case) to
ever state they've never gotten any virus or malware. If that's true,
it has nothing to do with Windows.

And I'm not changing your statements. I'm challenging them.


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[dennis@home]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> dennis@home wrote:
>
>>
>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:FDGzi.89821$fJ5.55211@pd7urf1no...
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:v%Fzi.89778$fJ5.27633@pd7urf1no...
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her
>>>>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway.
>>>>
>>>> That is not a surprise..
>>>>
>>> Certainly seems to be a surprise to you, as you've obviously clueless.
>>
>> I usually find that its the clueless that resort to calling people
>> clueless.. those of us that have some knowledge are usually quite happy
>> to
>> help educate others.. you appear to lack anything to educate even the
>> most
>> basic user with even though you claim to know much.
>>
>>>
>>> I run a WRT54G router that runs a hacked Linux firmware package. This
>>> allows
>>> it to continuely feed its log files to a dedicated computer that shows
>>> me
>>> who's knocking on my door. There are constant attempts to open up ports
>>> 445
>>> and 135 thanks to all the compromised Windoze boxes out there. Of
>>> course,
>>> the router stops these attacks, but it sure does show how bad things are
>>> out there on the Net - THANKS TO WINDOZE.
>>>
>>> Learn more about Port 445 - Microsoft's big mistake and what you
>>> Wintards
>>> need to do about it ...
>>
>> You need to learn about computers by the way you talk...
>>
> I think I know something about computers. I've been using them since '79.

Did mattel make them then?
I was designing them then BTW, it doesn't make you an expert in Vista or in
Linux either.


>> First.. grc is not a good site.. he doesn't have a clue which you would
>> know if you had a clue.
>>
>> Second.. the probes on port 445 aren't all windows boxes and aren't all
>> exploits in the first place.
>>
> Of course they're exploits when open to the Net. No one running Samba
> would
> intentionally open those ports to the Net, doofus.

You are just providing more evidence that you don't actually know anything.
Let me help.. a packet arrives on your computer destined for port 445.. OK
so far?
How does the *destination* port tell you where it originated from?

The only way you could know that these ports are open is for you to scan for
them.. this makes you a crimminal BTW.

>> Do you actually have anything interesting to say or is it all kiddy level
>> stuff?
>
> Obviously, what I have to say is way above your level of understanding.
> But,
> that figures, since you're the Wintard.

Do you still think you are impressing anyone with your insults?

Insulting Linux users is just one of your many faults and I and most others
wish you would actually learn something.

 

[Alias]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Frank wrote:
> NoStop wrote:
>
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:h7Fzi.89730$fJ5.18832@pd7urf1no...
>>>
>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,
>>>>>> WPA
>>>>>> and WGA nonsense
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.
>>>>> However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and
>>>>> stuff that isn't true doesn't help anyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like either..
>>>>>
>>>>> A: you don't know what you are talking about.
>>>>>
>>>>> or, more probable,
>>>>>
>>>>> B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to
>>>>> install software so that you can exploit it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have
>>>>> shown you
>>>>> evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?
>>>>
>>>> Because, out-of-box, it is 1000s safer than Windoze is.
>>>
>>> That does not equal safe, not in any reasonable persons mind.
>>
>>
>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her
>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway. That has NEVER
>> been an issue. So, I guess, for those of us that know better, we are
>> reasonably content that having left Windoze, we can concentrate on using
>> our computers for productive work rather than baby sit it constantly
>> against outside attacks. If you chose to continue to worry about, well go
>> ahead. It's the Windoze mindset to start with.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>
> Let me introduce you to someone who has never, ever been infected by
> anything running Windows from their very first RTM of WinX...meet
> me...Frank.

Liar.

--
Alias
To email me, remove shoes

 

[Adam A-Flaming-Old-Man Albright]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Alias Ubuntu Obsessed 79 -- multiple NG trolling Au79 wrote:

<snipped>

>
> Liar.
>

<Oooooooh nooooooo, it's a familiar habit and everyone is a *liar*. Is
that right, dear? You're outrageous you Bipolar Disordered lunatic. You
have no class Au79 -- none, and you're in bad bad shape, dear. You can't
get any action in another NG that is neutral, because people even using
Linux have you , and the rest think you're some kind of zealot
*lunatic* pushing your product and just ignore you. So, you roll your
red wagon over here to this NG and start going off, looking for some
action. You must think you're in Heaven and you got the world by the
tail -- LOL, LOL and LOL. >

 

[Julian]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

"Adam A-Flaming-Old-Man Albright" wrote

> Alias Ubuntu Obsessed 79 -- multiple NG trolling Au79 wrote:
>
> <snipped>
>
>>
>> Liar.
>>
>
> <Oooooooh nooooooo, it's a familiar habit and everyone is a *liar*. Is
> that right, dear? You're outrageous you Bipolar Disordered lunatic. You
> have no class Au79 -- none, and you're in bad bad shape, dear. You can't
> get any action in another NG that is neutral, because people even using
> Linux have you , and the rest think you're some kind of zealot
> *lunatic* pushing your product and just ignore you. So, you roll your
> red wagon over here to this NG and start going off, looking for some
> action. You must think you're in Heaven and you got the world by the
> tail -- LOL, LOL and LOL. >

The sad old gay-meh has turned arbn into scorched earth.

 

[dennis@home]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

"Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:u3t%23I7r5HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>
> Care to enlighten everyone why the Gibson Research site "is not a good
> site" and "he doesn't have a clue"?
>

I am quite confident that you could use Google to find many reasons why
Steve Gibson is considered to be a bit of a fanatic by people in the know.

 

[Charlie Tame]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Frank wrote:
> Terry R. wrote:
>
>>
>> You have NEVER had a virus or malware?
>
> No. And in small businesses I think that's fairly normal. I've heard
> that a lot times in large businesses malcontent employees will
> intentionally infect or bring down the company system.
>
> And "all the businesses I deal
>> with have never been infected running windows". How do you know Frank?
> Do you ask each and every user? Do you, a claimed business owner,
>> discuss viruses with other business owners?
>
> Yes, I talk with the owners quite frequently. We discuss a variety of
> technical issues.
>
> If you've NEVER had a virus
>> or malware, then all I can say is that you must be one lucky person,
>
> Oh, I don't think "luck" has anything at all to do with it!
>
> but
>> I don't believe your statement above and I doubt anyone else will either.
>
> Why is that? You think every window os in the entire world has to have
> been infected at one time or another?
> Is that correct?
>
> You can say you don't care what I believe (and I'm sure you
>> will) but it won't change anything.
>
> I'm not the one trying to change someone statement. You are. Not me.
> Frank


Okay, time for a bit of logic.

Viruses spread automatically. There is plenty of evidence from
independent companies that some viruses have infected half the world in
days. Statistically it is almost impossible that "Some" system you deal
with has escaped infection, although it is perfectly possible that such
an infection has remained unnoticed and perhaps been dealt with later by
one of the aforementioned independent companies' automated tools.

The earlier Windows and some software like OE were extremely vulnerable
to infection, in fact it was IMPOSSIBLE to keep OE infection free until
MS added some settings and changed the defaults.

MS methods for dealing with such problems have improved enormously
since, but rather slowly in contrast to the speed with which they can
patch DRM vulnerabilities. Oh well.

However your claim that you have never seen an infected "Windows" means
you are either the only person on the planet to have that experience,
you have bad eyesight and have been looking at the microwave instead of
the computer or you are plain lying.

If it were not for Bill Gates (or someone like him) the personal
computer may never have been developed or be as affordable as it is.
OTOH if not for the development of Microsoft we might all be using the
much better designed Amiga. However we have what we have, and it is true
than being the most popular OS in the world, Windows is the biggest
target for malware. That fact is undeniable and so therefore threat to
Windows is undeniable. It would make more sense to accept that than to
keep trying to deny it's existence.

I have not experienced a malware problem with Windows for years (Except
for deliberate actions during tests) and it is likely that most people
here have avoided the problem too, but then most of the people here are
NOT ordinary Windows "Users" either. I recently got a machine from an
ordinary user (I would have considered her quite responsible) with
literally HUNDREDS of infected files and TENS of different viruses /
trojans / spywares.


In short then, what I am saying is that for various reasons, not all the
fault of the OS, Windows is more vulnerable to attempted infection than
any other - arguing whether it is or is not is pointless because the OS
is NOT the sole factor.

What MS have done with Vista is a step in the right direction in some
ways but now there are far more important issues and MS are on a path to
self desruction which will be a BAD thing for everybody, the whole
industry. They have forgotten one thing which in my humble opinion has
been a VITAL component in their relationship with customers. MS has
become "Unfriendly".

One only has to look in this group to see that "Unfriendly" has become
the norm. People don't want to be constantly accused of stealing or
being stupid.

 

[Charlie Tame]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

dennis@home wrote:
>
> "Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:u3t%23I7r5HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>>
>> Care to enlighten everyone why the Gibson Research site "is not a good
>> site" and "he doesn't have a clue"?
>>
>
> I am quite confident that you could use Google to find many reasons why
> Steve Gibson is considered to be a bit of a fanatic by people in the know.
>
>


So was Bill Gates...

 

[dennis@home]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:uhqsFnx5HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>
> However your claim that you have never seen an infected "Windows" means
> you are either the only person on the planet to have that experience, you
> have bad eyesight and have been looking at the microwave instead of the
> computer or you are plain lying.

He is not the only one who has not had a windows virus on their machine.
Despite your opinion that its impossible it would appear that there are at
least two of us.

However I can state that I was the victim of a unix worm once many years ago
on a Sun machine.
It would appear that the claims that unix is invulnerable are wrong as well
as the claims that you must get infected if you run windows is wrong.

What can be reasonably stated is that some users will get infected whatever
OS they run as they just don't understand the issues.
There are users here that will install software on their Ubuntu systems if
you email it to them.. they know they are safe so it doesn't matter if they
install it.. does it?