Ubuntu security vulnerabilities

[Alias]

Re: Alias - Correct once

Leythos wrote:
> In article <m5vrc31hdjodrvs5l862oqm4hevirku743@4ax.com>, AA@ABC.net
> says...
>> Now we can add LIAR to your list of "accomplishments". Snipping
>> everything after 'I LOVE to expose' gives a totally new meaning to
>> what I actually said. You deliberately snipped the rest in some vain
>> effort to be cute. I called you on it.
>
> And saying I "edited" it makes you a liar - snipping did not change your
> text, but it did make clear your reason for being here - you expose
> yourself - and you do it well for a troll.
>

Oooo, Adam, he called you a TROLL, the ultimate insult on Usenet!

LMAO!

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[Leythos]

Re: Alias - Correct once

In article <##H7epd5HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...
> Leythos wrote:
> > In article <m5vrc31hdjodrvs5l862oqm4hevirku743@4ax.com>, AA@ABC.net
> > says...
> >> Now we can add LIAR to your list of "accomplishments". Snipping
> >> everything after 'I LOVE to expose' gives a totally new meaning to
> >> what I actually said. You deliberately snipped the rest in some vain
> >> effort to be cute. I called you on it.
> >
> > And saying I "edited" it makes you a liar - snipping did not change your
> > text, but it did make clear your reason for being here - you expose
> > yourself - and you do it well for a troll.
> >
>
> Oooo, Adam, he called you a TROLL, the ultimate insult on Usenet!
>
> LMAO!

You and Adam should created your own ALT group on Usenet, you could hug
each other all day and night, could even pat each other on the backs.

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[Adam Albright]

Re: Alias - Correct once

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:33:47 -0400, Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:

>In article <##H7epd5HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
>iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>> > In article <m5vrc31hdjodrvs5l862oqm4hevirku743@4ax.com>, AA@ABC.net
>> > says...
>> >> Now we can add LIAR to your list of "accomplishments". Snipping
>> >> everything after 'I LOVE to expose' gives a totally new meaning to
>> >> what I actually said. You deliberately snipped the rest in some vain
>> >> effort to be cute. I called you on it.
>> >
>> > And saying I "edited" it makes you a liar - snipping did not change your
>> > text, but it did make clear your reason for being here - you expose
>> > yourself - and you do it well for a troll.
>> >
>>
>> Oooo, Adam, he called you a TROLL, the ultimate insult on Usenet!
>>
>> LMAO!
>
>You and Adam should created your own ALT group on Usenet, you could hug
>each other all day and night, could even pat each other on the backs.

Your nick sounds like a sexually transmitted disease.

 

[Who is your daddy?]

Re: Adam-ett the fag is in heat and wants to transmit something.

Adam-ett Hopalong aka he like the *boys* wrote:
>
> Your nick sounds like a sexually transmitted disease.
>

<Watch out, Adam-ett is in heat and his/her diseased Tampon is about to
fall off, the fag.>

 

[Alias]

Re: Alias - Correct once

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:33:47 -0400, Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:
>
>> In article <##H7epd5HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...
>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>> In article <m5vrc31hdjodrvs5l862oqm4hevirku743@4ax.com>, AA@ABC.net
>>>> says...
>>>>> Now we can add LIAR to your list of "accomplishments". Snipping
>>>>> everything after 'I LOVE to expose' gives a totally new meaning to
>>>>> what I actually said. You deliberately snipped the rest in some vain
>>>>> effort to be cute. I called you on it.
>>>> And saying I "edited" it makes you a liar - snipping did not change your
>>>> text, but it did make clear your reason for being here - you expose
>>>> yourself - and you do it well for a troll.
>>>>
>>> Oooo, Adam, he called you a TROLL, the ultimate insult on Usenet!
>>>
>>> LMAO!
>> You and Adam should created your own ALT group on Usenet, you could hug
>> each other all day and night, could even pat each other on the backs.
>
> Your nick sounds like a sexually transmitted disease.
>

which he got from Frank.

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[Marco Desloovere]

Stephan Rose [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:49:23 -0500] wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:11:24 +0200, Marco Desloovere wrote:
>
>> Stephan Rose [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:44:52 -0500] wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:15:43 +0200, Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>
>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:18:57 -0500] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If it's fixed, it's not a problem if you update. If it's not a patched
>>>>>vulnerability, you are stuck with the problem weather you like it or
>>>>>not. MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in their OSes (Vista and XP). If
>>>>>Ubuntu has all of it's known vulnerabilites patched (at least all the
>>>>>ones on that page are), I would much prefer to run Ubuntu from a
>>>>>security standpoint.
>>>>
>>>> Could you show me an example of an unpatched security vulnerability in
>>>> Windows Vista?
>>>>
>>>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for
>>>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities
>>>> found".
>>>>
>>>
>>>Just because a 3rd party website is not aware of any does not mean there
>>>aren't (or are) any. When I was giving Vista a Trial I received security
>>>updates via windows update so there obviously were some...but yet that
>>>site shows none...
>>
>> OK, fair enough, so where are these unpatched Windows Vista security
>> vulnerabilities right now?
>
>Every OS has unpatched Vulnerabilities, I don't care if it is Vista,
>MacOS, Ubuntu, <insert name here>.
>
>They all do across the board. Period. Anyone who claims otherwise needs
>their head examined or shouldn't be near a computer.
>
>A vulnerability needs to be discovered for it to be able to be patched. So
>as long as it is not found, it is not patched because it can't be.
>
>What's more important isn't the number of vulnerabilities in one OS vs the
>other OS. That's completely irrelevant.
>
>The only important number is the number of *discovered but unpatched*
>vulnerabilities and how likely they are actually to occur. Just because a
>vulnerability exists does not mean it affects a User if it is in an
>component that the user doesn't even have installed or does not use.

Yes, I know all that and I agree with you - in a previous life I was a
programmer.

My question concerned the security vulnerabilities of Windows Vista. Not
every vulnerability is of a critical nature.
Many web sites publish these security vulnerabilities, but which one is
a credible source.

Marco

 

[Marco Desloovere]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
[Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:32:57 -0500] wrote:

>Marco Desloovere wrote:
>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:02:35 -0500] wrote:
>>
>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:50:25 -0500] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy
>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:
>>>>>>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...
>>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>>> | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose said about
>>>>>>>>>> | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.
>>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>>> | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me, visit the
>>>>>>>>>> | Ubuntu forums or Google.
>>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>>> | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing from this ng.
>>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>>> | --
>>>>>>>>>> | Alias
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a troll full
>>>>>>>>>> of lies.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>>> Hypocrite!
>>>>>>>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young hormones ("My
>>>>>>>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing weird things to
>>>>>>>> his developing mind...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>> I was talking about you, not him.
>>>>>> How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?
>>>>>> Don't shoot the messenger!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marco
>>>>> You are being a hypocrite because you are calling alias a troll for
>>>>> posting ubuntu stuff, yet you do the same yourself in this very group,
>>>>> just like Dick (Richard) Urban, MVP did. Dick should stop setting such
>>>>> a bad example for the rest of the kiddies in this group!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/msg/8f9e4b23ebc52750
>>>> I don't agree.
>>>>
>>>> Again you are shooting at the messenger, only because *you* don't like
>>>> the message.
>>>> That's silly.
>>>>
>>>> Marco
>>>
>>> 'The Message' is off topic and makes you look like a troll. If you are
>>> the messenger, what higher authority charged you with the divine task of
>>> making that post here?
>>>
>>> Get serious! It makes you look like a Ballmer Butt Boy and an MS shill.
>>
>> You must be joking!
>>
>> Do you really believe that I need your permission to post in this group
>> here?
>>
>
>No, and I'm not sure where you get that idea either.
>
>> If my message is off topic, then how is possible that it generated such
>> an enormous and totally unexpected response?
>
>You just defined the very art of trolling.
>
>> Obviously some people felt the need to vent, obviously my message is not
>> off topic.
>
>How is Ubuntu not off topic in a vista newsgroup?
>
>>
>> This is the Usenet, if you don't like a thread, simply skip it, but
>> don't tell me what I can and cannot do.
>>
>> Marco
>
>I never did tell you 'what you can or cannot do'. Just stating an
>observation.

You are quite obviously spoiling for a flame war.
I am not interested.
End of discussion.

Marco

 

[dennis@home]

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
news:%23321Trb5HHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fakgve$nlk$3@aioe.org...
>>
>>>
>>> Yet all the herd bots are comprised of Windows boxes without a single
>>> Linux box. How do you explain that?
>>>
>>
>> Are you admitting to actually owning all the bots in the world so that
>> you can actually know what you claim?
>> As you don't you can not know that so your claim is worthless and doesn't
>> require any explanation.
>
> It's a known fact. Research it if you don't believe me. Try using
> www.google.com

I suppose Kaiten.c doesn't exist then.
If you must argue by google at least try out your google stuff first it
stops you from looking like an idiot.

 

[The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Marco Desloovere wrote:
> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:32:57 -0500] wrote:
>
>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:02:35 -0500] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:50:25 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy
>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:
>>>>>>>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...
>>>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>>>> | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose said about
>>>>>>>>>>> | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.
>>>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>>>> | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me, visit the
>>>>>>>>>>> | Ubuntu forums or Google.
>>>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>>>> | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing from this ng.
>>>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>>>> | --
>>>>>>>>>>> | Alias
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a troll full
>>>>>>>>>>> of lies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>>>> Hypocrite!
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young hormones ("My
>>>>>>>>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing weird things to
>>>>>>>>> his developing mind...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>> I was talking about you, not him.
>>>>>>> How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?
>>>>>>> Don't shoot the messenger!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>> You are being a hypocrite because you are calling alias a troll for
>>>>>> posting ubuntu stuff, yet you do the same yourself in this very group,
>>>>>> just like Dick (Richard) Urban, MVP did. Dick should stop setting such
>>>>>> a bad example for the rest of the kiddies in this group!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/msg/8f9e4b23ebc52750
>>>>> I don't agree.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again you are shooting at the messenger, only because *you* don't like
>>>>> the message.
>>>>> That's silly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marco
>>>> 'The Message' is off topic and makes you look like a troll. If you are
>>>> the messenger, what higher authority charged you with the divine task of
>>>> making that post here?
>>>>
>>>> Get serious! It makes you look like a Ballmer Butt Boy and an MS shill.
>>> You must be joking!
>>>
>>> Do you really believe that I need your permission to post in this group
>>> here?
>>>
>> No, and I'm not sure where you get that idea either.
>>
>>> If my message is off topic, then how is possible that it generated such
>>> an enormous and totally unexpected response?
>> You just defined the very art of trolling.
>>
>>> Obviously some people felt the need to vent, obviously my message is not
>>> off topic.
>> How is Ubuntu not off topic in a vista newsgroup?
>>
>>> This is the Usenet, if you don't like a thread, simply skip it, but
>>> don't tell me what I can and cannot do.
>>>
>>> Marco
>> I never did tell you 'what you can or cannot do'. Just stating an
>> observation.
>
> You are quite obviously spoiling for a flame war.
> I am not interested.
> End of discussion.
>
> Marco

Whatever, No skin off of my back. You and Dick MVP are the hypocrites
who won't even answer a simple question like 'How is Ubuntu not off
topic in a vista newsgroup?'

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[Alias]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
wrote:
> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:32:57 -0500] wrote:
>>
>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:02:35 -0500] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina
>>>>>> DiBoy'
>>>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:50:25 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina
>>>>>>>> DiBoy
>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as
>>>>>>>>>> Nina DiBoy'
>>>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:
>>>>>>>>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> | | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Rose said about | spamming, I came to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusion that he has a point.
>>>>>>>>>>>> | | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email
>>>>>>>>>>>> me, visit the | Ubuntu forums or Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>> | | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am
>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribing from this ng.
>>>>>>>>>>>> | | -- | Alias
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a
>>>>>>>>>>>> troll full
>>>>>>>>>>>> of lies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>>>>> Hypocrite!
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young
>>>>>>>>>> hormones ("My
>>>>>>>>>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing weird
>>>>>>>>>> things to
>>>>>>>>>> his developing mind...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>>> I was talking about you, not him.
>>>>>>>> How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?
>>>>>>>> Don't shoot the messenger!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>> You are being a hypocrite because you are calling alias a troll
>>>>>>> for posting ubuntu stuff, yet you do the same yourself in this
>>>>>>> very group, just like Dick (Richard) Urban, MVP did. Dick should
>>>>>>> stop setting such a bad example for the rest of the kiddies in
>>>>>>> this group!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/msg/8f9e4b23ebc52750
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't agree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again you are shooting at the messenger, only because *you* don't
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> the message.
>>>>>> That's silly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marco
>>>>> 'The Message' is off topic and makes you look like a troll. If you
>>>>> are the messenger, what higher authority charged you with the
>>>>> divine task of making that post here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Get serious! It makes you look like a Ballmer Butt Boy and an MS
>>>>> shill.
>>>> You must be joking!
>>>>
>>>> Do you really believe that I need your permission to post in this group
>>>> here?
>>>>
>>> No, and I'm not sure where you get that idea either.
>>>
>>>> If my message is off topic, then how is possible that it generated such
>>>> an enormous and totally unexpected response?
>>> You just defined the very art of trolling.
>>>
>>>> Obviously some people felt the need to vent, obviously my message is
>>>> not
>>>> off topic.
>>> How is Ubuntu not off topic in a vista newsgroup?
>>>
>>>> This is the Usenet, if you don't like a thread, simply skip it, but
>>>> don't tell me what I can and cannot do.
>>>>
>>>> Marco
>>> I never did tell you 'what you can or cannot do'. Just stating an
>>> observation.
>>
>> You are quite obviously spoiling for a flame war.
>> I am not interested.
>> End of discussion.
>>
>> Marco
>
> Whatever, No skin off of my back. You and Dick MVP are the hypocrites
> who won't even answer a simple question like 'How is Ubuntu not off
> topic in a vista newsgroup?'
>

Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,
WPA and WGA nonsense

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[dennis@home]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...

> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM, WPA
> and WGA nonsense

Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.
However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and stuff
that isn't true doesn't help anyone.

It looks like either..

A: you don't know what you are talking about.

or, more probable,

B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to
install software so that you can exploit it.


Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have shown you
evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?

 

[NoStop]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

dennis@home wrote:

>
> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...
>
>> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM, WPA
>> and WGA nonsense
>
> Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.
> However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and stuff
> that isn't true doesn't help anyone.
>
> It looks like either..
>
> A: you don't know what you are talking about.
>
> or, more probable,
>
> B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to
> install software so that you can exploit it.
>
>
> Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have shown you
> evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?

Because, out-of-box, it is 1000s safer than Windoze is.

Cheers.

--

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[The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Alias wrote:
> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
> wrote:
>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:32:57 -0500] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'
>>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:02:35 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina
>>>>>>> DiBoy'
>>>>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:50:25 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina
>>>>>>>>> DiBoy
>>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as
>>>>>>>>>>> Nina DiBoy'
>>>>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marketing for Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Rose said about | spamming, I came to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusion that he has a point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me, visit the | Ubuntu forums or Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribing from this ng.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | -- | Alias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> troll full
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of lies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hypocrite!
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young
>>>>>>>>>>> hormones ("My
>>>>>>>>>>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing weird
>>>>>>>>>>> things to
>>>>>>>>>>> his developing mind...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>>>> I was talking about you, not him.
>>>>>>>>> How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?
>>>>>>>>> Don't shoot the messenger!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>> You are being a hypocrite because you are calling alias a troll
>>>>>>>> for posting ubuntu stuff, yet you do the same yourself in this
>>>>>>>> very group, just like Dick (Richard) Urban, MVP did. Dick
>>>>>>>> should stop setting such a bad example for the rest of the
>>>>>>>> kiddies in this group!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/msg/8f9e4b23ebc52750
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't agree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again you are shooting at the messenger, only because *you* don't
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> the message.
>>>>>>> That's silly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>> 'The Message' is off topic and makes you look like a troll. If
>>>>>> you are the messenger, what higher authority charged you with the
>>>>>> divine task of making that post here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get serious! It makes you look like a Ballmer Butt Boy and an MS
>>>>>> shill.
>>>>> You must be joking!
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you really believe that I need your permission to post in this
>>>>> group
>>>>> here?
>>>>>
>>>> No, and I'm not sure where you get that idea either.
>>>>
>>>>> If my message is off topic, then how is possible that it generated
>>>>> such
>>>>> an enormous and totally unexpected response?
>>>> You just defined the very art of trolling.
>>>>
>>>>> Obviously some people felt the need to vent, obviously my message
>>>>> is not
>>>>> off topic.
>>>> How is Ubuntu not off topic in a vista newsgroup?
>>>>
>>>>> This is the Usenet, if you don't like a thread, simply skip it, but
>>>>> don't tell me what I can and cannot do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marco
>>>> I never did tell you 'what you can or cannot do'. Just stating an
>>>> observation.
>>>
>>> You are quite obviously spoiling for a flame war.
>>> I am not interested.
>>> End of discussion.
>>>
>>> Marco
>>
>> Whatever, No skin off of my back. You and Dick MVP are the hypocrites
>> who won't even answer a simple question like 'How is Ubuntu not off
>> topic in a vista newsgroup?'
>>
>
> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,
> WPA and WGA nonsense
>

Good answer, and I'd actually accept that answer from these bozos if
their posts about ubuntu were in reply to help another poster (as your
are). Since their ubuntu posts have been the start of a new thread
ripping on it, that makes it completely off topic and they won't even
stand up like men and admit it!

--
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http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with
legality."
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[dennis@home]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:h7Fzi.89730$fJ5.18832@pd7urf1no...
> dennis@home wrote:
>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...
>>
>>> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,
>>> WPA
>>> and WGA nonsense
>>
>> Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.
>> However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and stuff
>> that isn't true doesn't help anyone.
>>
>> It looks like either..
>>
>> A: you don't know what you are talking about.
>>
>> or, more probable,
>>
>> B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to
>> install software so that you can exploit it.
>>
>>
>> Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have shown you
>> evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?
>
> Because, out-of-box, it is 1000s safer than Windoze is.

That does not equal safe, not in any reasonable persons mind.

 

[NoStop]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

dennis@home wrote:

>
> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:h7Fzi.89730$fJ5.18832@pd7urf1no...
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...
>>>
>>>> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,
>>>> WPA
>>>> and WGA nonsense
>>>
>>> Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.
>>> However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and
>>> stuff that isn't true doesn't help anyone.
>>>
>>> It looks like either..
>>>
>>> A: you don't know what you are talking about.
>>>
>>> or, more probable,
>>>
>>> B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to
>>> install software so that you can exploit it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have shown you
>>> evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?
>>
>> Because, out-of-box, it is 1000s safer than Windoze is.
>
> That does not equal safe, not in any reasonable persons mind.

Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her
system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway. That has NEVER
been an issue. So, I guess, for those of us that know better, we are
reasonably content that having left Windoze, we can concentrate on using
our computers for productive work rather than baby sit it constantly
against outside attacks. If you chose to continue to worry about, well go
ahead. It's the Windoze mindset to start with.

Cheers.

--

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[dennis@home]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:v%Fzi.89778$fJ5.27633@pd7urf1no...

> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her
> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway.

That is not a surprise..

There are not many Linux users that would know if they had been infected.
Its not likely that an infection is going to flash the screen and say "Hi".


> That has NEVER
> been an issue. So, I guess, for those of us that know better, we are
> reasonably content that having left Windoze, we can concentrate on using
> our computers for productive work rather than baby sit it constantly
> against outside attacks. If you chose to continue to worry about, well go
> ahead. It's the Windoze mindset to start with.

You may carry on as you desire.. please tell the truth when trying to
persuade others to try Linux.. the truth is better in the long run.

 

[NoStop]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

dennis@home wrote:

>
> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:v%Fzi.89778$fJ5.27633@pd7urf1no...
>
>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her
>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway.
>
> That is not a surprise..
>
Certainly seems to be a surprise to you, as you've obviously clueless.

I run a WRT54G router that runs a hacked Linux firmware package. This allows
it to continuely feed its log files to a dedicated computer that shows me
who's knocking on my door. There are constant attempts to open up ports 445
and 135 thanks to all the compromised Windoze boxes out there. Of course,
the router stops these attacks, but it sure does show how bad things are
out there on the Net - THANKS TO WINDOZE.

Learn more about Port 445 - Microsoft's big mistake and what you Wintards
need to do about it ...

http://www.grc.com/port_445.htm

Cheers.

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[DanS]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

Marco Desloovere <marco_desloovere@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:i9mrc3ho3bpf20i4jc8c9upb3lthue063s@4ax.com:

> If my message is off topic, then how is possible that it generated
> such an enormous and totally unexpected response?

Because you were trolling.

> Obviously some people felt the need to vent, obviously my message is
> not off topic.

So......if it's trying to put down *nix it's not off-topic and not
trolling ?

But if it's a pro-*nix post, it is off-topic, and trollng ?

That certainly is a MS fanboi attitude if you ask me. (Not saying you are
one.....just that opinion.)

> This is the Usenet, if you don't like a thread, simply skip it, but
> don't tell me what I can and cannot do.

I agree. Let whomever post whatever they want, and let the reader decide
what to read. And the regs here that cry and whine about OT posts should
do the same. Besides, it's only them that care anyway, I've never seen a
non-regular (someone just looking for help) piss and moan like they do.

It wouldn't be bad at all if they were intelligent
disagreements/discussions, but you rarely see that when certain unamed
people are involved.

 

[antioch]

"Marco Desloovere" <marco_desloovere@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jngqc39k9qfshdpb1ajr6i1b4nn5qr5sl6@4ax.com...
> But these updates are provided by NVIDIA, *not* by Microsoft.
>
> Marco

Dumb- that's what I call it. So give us the link to that last update for
nVidia from MS - the Network thingy.
I have not seen a driver update for any nvidia products in MS for over a
year - may be longer? Not that I would use it - did once and never again.

Antioch

 

[dennis@home]

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:FDGzi.89821$fJ5.55211@pd7urf1no...
> dennis@home wrote:
>
>>
>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:v%Fzi.89778$fJ5.27633@pd7urf1no...
>>
>>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her
>>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway.
>>
>> That is not a surprise..
>>
> Certainly seems to be a surprise to you, as you've obviously clueless.

I usually find that its the clueless that resort to calling people
clueless.. those of us that have some knowledge are usually quite happy to
help educate others.. you appear to lack anything to educate even the most
basic user with even though you claim to know much.

>
> I run a WRT54G router that runs a hacked Linux firmware package. This
> allows
> it to continuely feed its log files to a dedicated computer that shows me
> who's knocking on my door. There are constant attempts to open up ports
> 445
> and 135 thanks to all the compromised Windoze boxes out there. Of course,
> the router stops these attacks, but it sure does show how bad things are
> out there on the Net - THANKS TO WINDOZE.
>
> Learn more about Port 445 - Microsoft's big mistake and what you Wintards
> need to do about it ...

You need to learn about computers by the way you talk...

First.. grc is not a good site.. he doesn't have a clue which you would know
if you had a clue.

Second.. the probes on port 445 aren't all windows boxes and aren't all
exploits in the first place.

Do you actually have anything interesting to say or is it all kiddy level
stuff?