So I tried it...

[Frank]

Stephan Rose wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:22:46 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>
>
>>"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>>news:OdWdnbQyjZYHAj_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>>On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:52:12 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Stephan Rose" wrote in messag
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>How would I even go about uninstalling whatever drive initially placed
>>>>>by
>>>>>Vista? The device manager just lists my nVidia driver now so I wouldn't
>>>>>even know what driver vista initially placed. I never bother to look for
>>>>>that since my normal procedure with windows is to install it and then
>>>>>install the latest nVidia driver.
>>>>
>>>>This is a monitor/brand/display adapter issue.
>>>>
>>>>How old is the monitor? nVidia is infamous for leaving older (and not all
>>>>that old) monitor's out of their "updated" drivers.
>>>
>>>Monitor is probably about 1.5 years old, is is a 20.1 inch 1600x1200
>>>flatpanel.
>>>
>>>It works flawlessly with the latest nVidia drivers under Linux.
>>>It works flawlessly with the latest nVidia drivers under WinXP. And I
>>>seriously mean latest, I just updated my nVidia drivers under XP a couple
>>>of days ago.
>>>
>>>So I don't see why nVidia would leave it out of Vista if they support it
>>>properly everywhere else.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If you installed an "updated" driver, you can usually "roll back" the
>>>>display adapter driver in Device Manager.
>>>
>>>That'd just bring me back to the default driver that Vista picked,
>>>which didn't do any better.
>>>
>>>I actually even tried to change my monitor driver from the generic PnP
>>>driver to Digital Flatpanel 1600x1200 but it made no difference.
>>>
>>
>>My bet is that your system doesn't have the correct monitor driver
>>installed. Your machine needs to know which resolutions and refresh rates it
>>can support, otherwise it goes to 1024 x 768 to err on the safe side
>
>
> That's all fine but if I tell it to use a 1600x1200 driver, it should
> believe me and allow me to use that resolution...to me, that's the purpose
> of such drivers.
>
>
>>Have you tried nVida's latest beta drivers for your card?
>>
>
>
> Honestly, no. I generally don't like running beta drivers. They are beta
> for a reason. Though I suppose in this case I don't have anything to loose
> so I'll give it a shot.
>
>
Amazing...you really don't know what you're doing!
Well...you're a great at faking it!
Frank

 

[Michael Welch]

"Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
news:eLPEjFAzHHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You little piss ant, I am going to get you here.
>
> You need to hop back under your rock and
> hop around in the coffin dirt you sweep under the rock with your little
> broom, and you kicked around with your size two shoes, you little piss
> ant.
>
> You are nothing but a low-life rolling in coffin dirt piss ant. I don't
> get
> into conversations with low-life rolling in the coffin dirt piss ants like
> you, live with it.
>
> that's a soft logical , and you don't deserve a hard
> ,
> because I always got to keep an eye on Adam Piss Ant Hopalong a NG
> *clown*, hopping up and down threads. <g>
>

Best. Troll. Ever!

"piss ant" = lol

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Adam the stalker Again.
No surprise at all.

"I asked you at least a half a dozen times..."
And I have answered.
There is no need to answer such a question from Adam the stalker.
There is nothing to be gained except possibly feed your starved ego.
Other than that there is no reason why you persist in the irrelevant.
Someone with a high IQ as you claim would remember.
More evidence of your claim of high IQ is FALSE and no more than hot
air from you.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:hje5a3177skqokdp1tvn0vdo7con3uf3ek@4ax.com...
> You mean like buying Vista certified hardware that supposedly passed
> inspection and rigid testing that still doesn't work correctly?
>
> I asked you at least a half a dozen times why you always have a hard
> on for Microsoft. I'm still waiting for an answer. What's in it for
> you that you daily disgrace yourself being an unpaid apologist for a
> multi national company that doesn't give a rat's ass about it's
> customers and release after release spanning over 21 years still
> hasn't been able to give the public a reasonably bug free version of
> Windows prior to the endless parade of service packs.
>
> WHY do you do it Jupiter?

 

[Frank]

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:28:19 -0700, "xfile"
> <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Yes, I agree with you.
>>
>>For newer models, hardware and software vendors do get benefits (or at least
>>try to avoid penalities for not being considered) by providing compatiable
>>drivers or versions so they could push sales.
>>
>>And..
>>
>>
>>>The attitude with many here seems to be one of "Mine's okay so you must
>>>either have crap equipment or be stupid or both. This is sad because it
>>>damages not only Microsoft but the whole field of "Amateur" computing.
>>
>>I also resent the above attitude and those persons simply don't know what is
>>compassion.
>
>
> You are describing fanboys and MVPs. There isn't one of either camp
> that isn't guilty of using this lame excuse over and over.
>
> THAT is why I make fun of them. They richly deserve it.
>


And that's why you so richly deserve the sh*t that comes your way you
arrogant ignorant as*hole loser!
Frank

 

[Mr. Arnold]

Little man, you little piss ant, it's not read. There is nothing you're
posting worth a read, and I'll leave your little dumb (troll b*tt)
slobbering about the mouth as usual, you little piss ant, to yourself in
your little righteous world, piss ant Hopalong.

<bye>

 

[Mr. Arnold]

Re: Opps I was after Adam Hopalong..

You should make sure you wipe and wash Hopalong's b*tt, you comb your hair,
and brush your teeth, before you *hop* into bed with little Hopalong. You
two fags were made for each other. -)

 

[Adam Albright]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:39:07 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:


>Amazing...you really don't know what you're doing!
>Well...you're a great at faking it!
>Frank

Nobody beats you Frankie at faking it.

 

[Adam Albright]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:39:55 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>Adam the stalker Again.

Talk about being feeble. You can't counter any argument I've made, so
just keep calling me a stalker. Using your logic what would you call
Frank?

 

[Adam Albright]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:44:55 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:


>>>>The attitude with many here seems to be one of "Mine's okay so you must
>>>>either have crap equipment or be stupid or both. This is sad because it
>>>>damages not only Microsoft but the whole field of "Amateur" computing.
>>>
>>>I also resent the above attitude and those persons simply don't know what is
>>>compassion.
>>
>>
>> You are describing fanboys and MVPs. There isn't one of either camp
>> that isn't guilty of using this lame excuse over and over.
>>
>> THAT is why I make fun of them. They richly deserve it.
>>
>
>
>And that's why you so richly deserve the sh*t that comes your way you
>arrogant ignorant as*hole loser!
>Frank

Damn Frankie, those hemroids of yours must really be popping tonight.
Better clam down old boy before you get a gusher. Go sit in a tub of
warm water. Try not to fart.

 

[Adam Albright]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:48:09 -0400, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote:

>Little man, you little piss ant, it's not read. There is nothing you're
>posting worth a read, and I'll leave your little dumb (troll b*tt)
>slobbering about the mouth as usual, you little piss ant, to yourself in
>your little righteous world, piss ant Hopalong.
>
><bye>

I bet this a-hole hears voices in his head.

 

[Charlie Tame]

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:28:19 -0700, "xfile"
> <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I agree with you.
>>
>> For newer models, hardware and software vendors do get benefits (or at least
>> try to avoid penalities for not being considered) by providing compatiable
>> drivers or versions so they could push sales.
>>
>> And..
>>
>>> The attitude with many here seems to be one of "Mine's okay so you must
>>> either have crap equipment or be stupid or both. This is sad because it
>>> damages not only Microsoft but the whole field of "Amateur" computing.
>> I also resent the above attitude and those persons simply don't know what is
>> compassion.
>
> You are describing fanboys and MVPs. There isn't one of either camp
> that isn't guilty of using this lame excuse over and over.
>
> THAT is why I make fun of them. They richly deserve it.
>


I would have to register a slight disagreement with that since for the
time being at least I am an MVP but since I got the award (Sadly) my
work has reduced the amount of time I can spend doing anything much on
here to about zero.

I want to see both MS and Vista succeed, but it now has to offer genuine
competition and reliability. MS has the resources to innovate and the US
needs innovators, enough has been lost already to other countries, but
at this time Vista is almost as problematic as anything else you can
think of.

From an IT manager's point of view the security is not much better than
XP (Which of course they have experience with) and we just had a gal
post with reportedly 90 instances of malware so would it be better to
make workstations either "Thin Client" or Linux / Solaris etc. I just
was playing with our company server and the gnome terminal, works fine
for everything asked of it.

When you add up costs Linux is getting closer and closer to being viable
- terminal services users can't tell the difference - so Vista is no
longer the forced upgrade path that XP was.

 

[Mr. Arnold]

> Best. Troll. Ever!
>
> "piss ant" = lol

That's EOR specialist (Equal Opportunity Ragger). You don't mess with me,
and I won't mess with you. Adam Piss Ant needed to be in my face.

Adam Piss Ant don't know. I'll talk about Adam Piss Ant and Adam Piss Ant's
whole d*mn family of Piss Ants and Adam Piss Ant's gold fish too.

 

[Mr. Arnold]

Where is my can of Raid for Adam Piss Ant, so that I can drown you in it?

 

[Swingman]

"Mr. Happy" wrote in message

> Sorry but monitors don't have drivers. You've used a computer before, no?

Here, have a few or two,dip:

http://www.monitor-drivers.com/


> Shake Hands With,
> Mr. Happy

I would, but you got some brown stuff on'em when you were pulling your head
out.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 6/1/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)

 

[Adam Albright]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:15:48 -0400, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote:

>
>
>> Best. Troll. Ever!
>>
>> "piss ant" = lol
>
>That's EOR specialist (Equal Opportunity Ragger). You don't mess with me,
>and I won't mess with you. Adam Piss Ant needed to be in my face.

When you act like a jerk, that's how I'll treat you. Learn that
lesson. I've been trying to teach Frankie that for months. How long
will it take you?

 

[xfile]

> The fact remains though that nothing in the ads indicates these potential
> problems, and no doubt retailers are happy to sell without asking, so off
> goes the customer and tries to upgrade his system which gets trashed.

I agree and it's sad and we can't expect every business to have the same
ethical standards. We have a higher one only because we have determined not
to be a top player (in our own field) and don't have a "vision" for everyone
to have our products.


> I even think twice about, but the average user probably doesn't find it
> that easy to back his stuff up. I do this sort of things quite often, at
> home and at work, but can we call someone careless or stupid because they
> were not fully aware of what they were risking.

IMHO, computers are still too technical to use when compared with other
consumer electronic products.

It probably will never reach to its vision or dream with mindsets that could
easily be found in here, needless to say, that is common and popluar in the
real life.

Just my two cents.

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:eSE%23BeAzHHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> The fact remains though that nothing in the ads indicates these potential
> problems, and no doubt retailers are happy to sell without asking, so off
> goes the customer and tries to upgrade his system which gets trashed.
>
> Now, I have invested in drive trays so a new hard disk is not something I
> even think twice about, but the average user probably doesn't find it that
> easy to back his stuff up. I do this sort of things quite often, at home
> and at work, but can we call someone careless or stupid because they were
> not fully aware of what they were risking.
>
> xfile wrote:
>> Yes, I agree with you.
>>
>> For newer models, hardware and software vendors do get benefits (or at
>> least try to avoid penalities for not being considered) by providing
>> compatiable drivers or versions so they could push sales.
>>
>> And..
>>
>>> The attitude with many here seems to be one of "Mine's okay so you must
>>> either have crap equipment or be stupid or both. This is sad because it
>>> damages not only Microsoft but the whole field of "Amateur" computing.
>>
>> I also resent the above attitude and those persons simply don't know what
>> is compassion.
>>
>> Both sides are rarely thinking from the user's point of view, and if they
>> want users to adopt their component (OS in this case), they have to make
>> sure that it will work with the systems and solve the problems, and
>> excuses are not relevant to or cared by end users.
>>
>> None will expect 100% compatible and trouble free and that's why we have
>> a word called - mainstream.

 

[Swingman]

"Stephan Rose" wrote in message

Swingman wrote:

>> Have you tried nVida's latest beta drivers for your card?
>
> Well apparently the beta driver helped the resolution issue. Not that I
> like running a beta, but I'll accept that for now.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. =)

You're welcome ... nVidia has pulled that before. AAMOF, there was a similar
issue/problem with ubuntu and the beta driver fixed it.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 6/1/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)

 

[Mr. Arnold]

The boy has got his nose wide open. It don't take much to put a ring Adam
Piss Ant's nose and make him chase.

<VBG>

 

[ray]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:00:52 -0700, Telstar wrote:

>
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> newsan.2007.07.22.01.40.04.475610@zianet.com...
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:24:00 -0400, Mike wrote:
>>
>>> In article <OdWdnb8yjZaFHj_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> - Video does not work beyond 1024x768, latest drivers. Dealbreaker right
>>>> there. Google reveals that I'm not the only one with the issue and
>>>> apparently the only fix I've seen so far is to use the VGA output
>>>> instead.
>>>> Difficult to do with a video card that only has DVI outputs, not to
>>>> mention that I run a dual monitor setup and need both my outputs no
>>>> matter
>>>> what the type. Not even manually choosing the "1600x1200 Digital
>>>> Flatpanel"
>>>> driver fixes this. So yes, I tried.
>>>
>>> Driver issue.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - My *MICROSOFT* Keyboard is not recognized correctly. It's a Japanese
>>>> keyboard, I select "Japanese" layout...and it does not give me a
>>>> Japanese
>>>> layout no matter what I do. What else beyond selecting "Japanese" as my
>>>> keyboard type and layout am I supposed to friggin do?? Call bill gates?
>>>> Again, dealbreaker right there if I can't properly use my keyboard!
>>>
>>> Driver issue.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Looking into the device manager I see about 4-5 other devices not
>>>> supported, including my SATA controller. Hard drive does obviously work
>>>> since Vista is running but I wonder if it was running at its optimum
>>>> performance seeing that the device manager was complaining about not
>>>> having a driver for the controller.
>>>
>>> Driver issue.
>>>
>>>> I mean seriously, THIS is the best Microsoft can do??? THIS is supposed
>>>> to
>>>> be progress? Advancement?? It can't even work correctly out of the box
>>>> with my very up to date hardware!
>>>
>>> No, it's the best the hardware vendors who wrote the drivers can do.
>>> It's not Microsoft's job to write drivers.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>> Who gives a rat's ass. If it doesn't work - it doesn't work!!
>>
>
> Then never buy a car.

Actually, my car works. And has for the past 12 years, with minimal
maintenance and upkeep - certainly nothing like hours per week.

 

[xfile]

>[...] the US needs innovators, enough has been lost already to other
>countries,[...]

I appreciate that you can take that as a "fact" so we don't have to blind
ourselves any longer.

And if we couldn't think out of the box and criticize if we could have a
better way for a product, we will never be a true innovator.



"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:usTtJ3AzHHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Adam Albright wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:28:19 -0700, "xfile"
>> <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I agree with you.
>>>
>>> For newer models, hardware and software vendors do get benefits (or at
>>> least try to avoid penalities for not being considered) by providing
>>> compatiable drivers or versions so they could push sales.
>>>
>>> And..
>>>
>>>> The attitude with many here seems to be one of "Mine's okay so you must
>>>> either have crap equipment or be stupid or both. This is sad because it
>>>> damages not only Microsoft but the whole field of "Amateur" computing.
>>> I also resent the above attitude and those persons simply don't know
>>> what is compassion.
>>
>> You are describing fanboys and MVPs. There isn't one of either camp
>> that isn't guilty of using this lame excuse over and over. THAT is why I
>> make fun of them. They richly deserve it.
>
>
> I would have to register a slight disagreement with that since for the
> time being at least I am an MVP but since I got the award (Sadly) my work
> has reduced the amount of time I can spend doing anything much on here to
> about zero.
>
> I want to see both MS and Vista succeed, but it now has to offer genuine
> competition and reliability. MS has the resources to innovate and the US
> needs innovators, enough has been lost already to other countries, but at
> this time Vista is almost as problematic as anything else you can think
> of.
>
> From an IT manager's point of view the security is not much better than XP
> (Which of course they have experience with) and we just had a gal post
> with reportedly 90 instances of malware so would it be better to make
> workstations either "Thin Client" or Linux / Solaris etc. I just was
> playing with our company server and the gnome terminal, works fine for
> everything asked of it.
>
> When you add up costs Linux is getting closer and closer to being viable -
> terminal services users can't tell the difference - so Vista is no longer
> the forced upgrade path that XP was.