So I tried it...

[Charlie Tame]

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:06:46 -0500, Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Quite so, to most users the "Driver Issue" argument is irrelevant, it is
>> simply a "Fanboy" excuse.
>
> Looks especially lame when the driver is for a MICROSOFT keyboard.
>
> My experience, the Vista compatibility advisor nagged about two
> applications I had on my XP box. Both Microsoft.
>
> ROTFLMAO!
>


Not a word of sensible advice, just "It is driver issues..."

 

[Charlie Tame]

Stephan Rose wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:19:41 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:
>
>> Stephan Rose wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:39:49 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I seriously gave it a try and approached it with an open mind.
>>>> Sure you did... if your job was to paint the Sistine Chapel, we'd be looking
>>>> down, not up.
>>>>
>>> What more than install the OS, install the latest drivers, am I supposed
>>> to do? Please...be so kind as to enlighten me.
>>>
>>> Live with 1024x768 on a 1600x1200 LCD? no thank you.
>>>
>>> If *you* have the solution to that problem for instance, that apparently
>>> nobody else yet does, then please! Let's hear it! I'd be most interested.
>>>
>>
>> Well I don't know if the latest drivers for that video card are any good
>> or not personally, but I can tell you you would have to uninstall those
>> placed by Vista to get any sense at all out of the card.
>
> The card itself actually works fine. The nVidia control panel is there,
> everything in it works. I can adjust all the settings fine, the 3D Preview
> works fine for adjusting the 3D settings.
>
> Just the resolution is what doesn't work.
>
> How would I even go about uninstalling whatever drive initially placed by
> Vista? The device manager just lists my nVidia driver now so I wouldn't
> even know what driver vista initially placed. I never bother to look for
> that since my normal procedure with windows is to install it and then
> install the latest nVidia driver.
>

Ah, well I may be mistaken there, perhaps my MB disk installed a driver,
but nevertheless NVidia say you must remove any previous driver.

 

[Mr. Arnold]

Re: Adam Hopalong mama's little piss and rides again.

It's not read. You little piss ant, you need to hop back under your rock and
hop around in the coffin dirt you sweep under the rock with your little
broom, and you kicked around with your size two shoes, you little piss ant.

You are nothing but a low-life rolling in coffin dirt piss ant. I don't get
into conversations with low-life rolling in the coffin dirt piss ants like
you, live with it.

that's a soft logical , and you don't deserve a hard ,
because I always got to keep an eye on Adam Piss Ant Hopalong a NG
*clown*, hopping up and down threads. <g>

<bye>

 

[Mr. Happy]

Stephan Rose wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:48:45 -0400, R. McCarty wrote:
>
>> Did you install/update the default Plug-&-Play monitor definition file
>> for your specific monitor ? - Without that it's impossible for the Video
>> card to properly know which resolution/color depth it can achieve ?
>
> I changed it to Digital FlatPanel 1600x1200 but it made no difference. I
> even rebooted the machine afterwards thinking that maybe it wants a
> reboot.
>
A reboot is the standard way to try and get a Windoze box functioning when
it has problems. Since that didn't work, move on to the next
Microsoft "solution" - a reinstall.

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy

--
"Cheer up, things could be worse." So I cheered up, installed Vista and
sure enough, things got worse.

 

[Mr. Arnold]

Whatever you're whining about there is no need to read it, as it's boring.

that's a soft logical .

<bye>

 

[Mr. Happy]

Swingman wrote:

> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
> news:OdWdnbQyjZYHAj_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:52:12 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>>
>>> "Stephan Rose" wrote in messag
>>>
>>>> How would I even go about uninstalling whatever drive initially placed
>>>> by
>>>> Vista? The device manager just lists my nVidia driver now so I wouldn't
>>>> even know what driver vista initially placed. I never bother to look
>>>> for that since my normal procedure with windows is to install it and
>>>> then install the latest nVidia driver.
>>>
>>> This is a monitor/brand/display adapter issue.
>>>
>>> How old is the monitor? nVidia is infamous for leaving older (and not
>>> all that old) monitor's out of their "updated" drivers.
>>
>> Monitor is probably about 1.5 years old, is is a 20.1 inch 1600x1200
>> flatpanel.
>>
>> It works flawlessly with the latest nVidia drivers under Linux.
>> It works flawlessly with the latest nVidia drivers under WinXP. And I
>> seriously mean latest, I just updated my nVidia drivers under XP a couple
>> of days ago.
>>
>> So I don't see why nVidia would leave it out of Vista if they support it
>> properly everywhere else.
>>
>>>
>>> If you installed an "updated" driver, you can usually "roll back" the
>>> display adapter driver in Device Manager.
>>
>> That'd just bring me back to the default driver that Vista picked,
>> which didn't do any better.
>>
>> I actually even tried to change my monitor driver from the generic PnP
>> driver to Digital Flatpanel 1600x1200 but it made no difference.
>>
>
> My bet is that your system doesn't have the correct monitor driver
> installed.

Sorry but monitors don't have drivers. You've used a computer before, no?

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy


--
"Cheer up, things could be worse." So I cheered up, installed Vista and
sure enough, things got worse.

 

[Mr. Arnold]

Re: Opps I was after Adam Hopalong..

You have my apology.

Anyway, when you whine like you have whined, I don't have time for you
anyway.

 

[Charlie Tame]

xfile wrote:
>> No, it's the best the hardware vendors who wrote the drivers can do.
>> It's not Microsoft's job to write drivers.
>
> To be fair, Microsoft has to provide enough resources and "incentives" for
> vendors to do so in the same way that Linux community has to do.
>
> If you were the CEO of the vendor, why would you want to spend tremendous
> efforts on doing so for the "old" hardware? Will you benefit from it?
>
> Will you do things that only have costs but not benefits as a rational
> business decision-maker?
>

Quite fair. There is "Some" incentive to cover older hardware since if
people go buy new they won't necessarily buy a brand that let them down
once already. However it is one thing to release an OS to manufacturers
for pre install (So the people enjoying some of the profit do the beta
testing and quite another to sell something in a box for ordinary
shoppers to buy that most likely won't work properly on their hardware.
This is unavoidable to some extent, but the fact that it was hyped to
death and will be disappointing to many makes this seem worse.

I think many will go for the ultimate version simply to get "The Best"
so the disappointment / annoyance factor will be even higher. What you
don't then need is someone endlessly repeating "It's your own fault for
not ensuring compatibility"

To some extent we are "Spoiled" by XP because it does things very well
and quite honestly I'd feel cheated if I bought the most expensive MS OS
ever only to find it caused me so much trouble. The attitude with many
here seems to be one of "Mine's okay so you must either have crap
equipment or be stupid or both. This is sad because it damages not only
Microsoft but the whole field of "Amateur" computing.

 

[Stephan Rose]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:52:10 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:

> Stephan Rose wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:19:41 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:
>>
>>> Stephan Rose wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:39:49 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I seriously gave it a try and approached it with an open mind.
>>>>> Sure you did... if your job was to paint the Sistine Chapel, we'd be looking
>>>>> down, not up.
>>>>>
>>>> What more than install the OS, install the latest drivers, am I supposed
>>>> to do? Please...be so kind as to enlighten me.
>>>>
>>>> Live with 1024x768 on a 1600x1200 LCD? no thank you.
>>>>
>>>> If *you* have the solution to that problem for instance, that apparently
>>>> nobody else yet does, then please! Let's hear it! I'd be most interested.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well I don't know if the latest drivers for that video card are any good
>>> or not personally, but I can tell you you would have to uninstall those
>>> placed by Vista to get any sense at all out of the card.
>>
>> The card itself actually works fine. The nVidia control panel is there,
>> everything in it works. I can adjust all the settings fine, the 3D Preview
>> works fine for adjusting the 3D settings.
>>
>> Just the resolution is what doesn't work.
>>
>> How would I even go about uninstalling whatever drive initially placed by
>> Vista? The device manager just lists my nVidia driver now so I wouldn't
>> even know what driver vista initially placed. I never bother to look for
>> that since my normal procedure with windows is to install it and then
>> install the latest nVidia driver.
>>
>
> Ah, well I may be mistaken there, perhaps my MB disk installed a driver,
> but nevertheless NVidia say you must remove any previous driver.

Previous nVidia driver probably. =) I doubt they refer to windows' Vesa
driver ) Wouldn't want to remove that one really...


--
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2003 Yamaha R6

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[Stephan Rose]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:06:48 -0700, Mr. Happy wrote:

> Swingman wrote:
>
>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>> news:OdWdnbQyjZYHAj_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:52:12 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Stephan Rose" wrote in messag
>>>>
>>>>> How would I even go about uninstalling whatever drive initially placed
>>>>> by
>>>>> Vista? The device manager just lists my nVidia driver now so I wouldn't
>>>>> even know what driver vista initially placed. I never bother to look
>>>>> for that since my normal procedure with windows is to install it and
>>>>> then install the latest nVidia driver.
>>>>
>>>> This is a monitor/brand/display adapter issue.
>>>>
>>>> How old is the monitor? nVidia is infamous for leaving older (and not
>>>> all that old) monitor's out of their "updated" drivers.
>>>
>>> Monitor is probably about 1.5 years old, is is a 20.1 inch 1600x1200
>>> flatpanel.
>>>
>>> It works flawlessly with the latest nVidia drivers under Linux.
>>> It works flawlessly with the latest nVidia drivers under WinXP. And I
>>> seriously mean latest, I just updated my nVidia drivers under XP a couple
>>> of days ago.
>>>
>>> So I don't see why nVidia would leave it out of Vista if they support it
>>> properly everywhere else.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you installed an "updated" driver, you can usually "roll back" the
>>>> display adapter driver in Device Manager.
>>>
>>> That'd just bring me back to the default driver that Vista picked,
>>> which didn't do any better.
>>>
>>> I actually even tried to change my monitor driver from the generic PnP
>>> driver to Digital Flatpanel 1600x1200 but it made no difference.
>>>
>>
>> My bet is that your system doesn't have the correct monitor driver
>> installed.
>
> Sorry but monitors don't have drivers. You've used a computer before,
> no?

Actually under windows, they do. It likely is just information regarding
the capability of the monitor, but it still gets installed as a driver.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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[Stephan Rose]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:22:46 -0500, Swingman wrote:

> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
> news:OdWdnbQyjZYHAj_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:52:12 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>>
>>> "Stephan Rose" wrote in messag
>>>
>>>> How would I even go about uninstalling whatever drive initially placed
>>>> by
>>>> Vista? The device manager just lists my nVidia driver now so I wouldn't
>>>> even know what driver vista initially placed. I never bother to look for
>>>> that since my normal procedure with windows is to install it and then
>>>> install the latest nVidia driver.
>>>
>>> This is a monitor/brand/display adapter issue.
>>>
>>> How old is the monitor? nVidia is infamous for leaving older (and not all
>>> that old) monitor's out of their "updated" drivers.
>>
>> Monitor is probably about 1.5 years old, is is a 20.1 inch 1600x1200
>> flatpanel.
>>
>> It works flawlessly with the latest nVidia drivers under Linux.
>> It works flawlessly with the latest nVidia drivers under WinXP. And I
>> seriously mean latest, I just updated my nVidia drivers under XP a couple
>> of days ago.
>>
>> So I don't see why nVidia would leave it out of Vista if they support it
>> properly everywhere else.
>>
>>>
>>> If you installed an "updated" driver, you can usually "roll back" the
>>> display adapter driver in Device Manager.
>>
>> That'd just bring me back to the default driver that Vista picked,
>> which didn't do any better.
>>
>> I actually even tried to change my monitor driver from the generic PnP
>> driver to Digital Flatpanel 1600x1200 but it made no difference.
>>
>
> My bet is that your system doesn't have the correct monitor driver
> installed. Your machine needs to know which resolutions and refresh rates it
> can support, otherwise it goes to 1024 x 768 to err on the safe side
>
> Have you tried nVida's latest beta drivers for your card?

Well apparently the beta driver helped the resolution issue. Not that I
like running a beta, but I'll accept that for now.

Thanks for the suggestion. =)

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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[Mr. Happy]

Stephan Rose wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:06:48 -0700, Mr. Happy wrote:
>
>> Swingman wrote:
>>
>>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OdWdnbQyjZYHAj_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:52:12 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Stephan Rose" wrote in messag
>>>>>
>>>>>> How would I even go about uninstalling whatever drive initially
>>>>>> placed by
>>>>>> Vista? The device manager just lists my nVidia driver now so I
>>>>>> wouldn't even know what driver vista initially placed. I never bother
>>>>>> to look for that since my normal procedure with windows is to install
>>>>>> it and then install the latest nVidia driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a monitor/brand/display adapter issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> How old is the monitor? nVidia is infamous for leaving older (and not
>>>>> all that old) monitor's out of their "updated" drivers.
>>>>
>>>> Monitor is probably about 1.5 years old, is is a 20.1 inch 1600x1200
>>>> flatpanel.
>>>>
>>>> It works flawlessly with the latest nVidia drivers under Linux.
>>>> It works flawlessly with the latest nVidia drivers under WinXP. And I
>>>> seriously mean latest, I just updated my nVidia drivers under XP a
>>>> couple of days ago.
>>>>
>>>> So I don't see why nVidia would leave it out of Vista if they support
>>>> it properly everywhere else.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you installed an "updated" driver, you can usually "roll back" the
>>>>> display adapter driver in Device Manager.
>>>>
>>>> That'd just bring me back to the default driver that Vista picked,
>>>> which didn't do any better.
>>>>
>>>> I actually even tried to change my monitor driver from the generic PnP
>>>> driver to Digital Flatpanel 1600x1200 but it made no difference.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My bet is that your system doesn't have the correct monitor driver
>>> installed.
>>
>> Sorry but monitors don't have drivers. You've used a computer before,
>> no?
>
> Actually under windows, they do. It likely is just information regarding
> the capability of the monitor, but it still gets installed as a driver.
>
It is not a driver. I don't care how Windoze installs it.

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy

--
"Cheer up, things could be worse." So I cheered up, installed Vista and
sure enough, things got worse.

 

[Adam Albright]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:52:10 -0500, Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net>
wrote:

>Ah, well I may be mistaken there, perhaps my MB disk installed a driver,
>but nevertheless NVidia say you must remove any previous driver.

That's SOP for all video cards. To avoid conflicts you MUST uninstall
any prior video drivers, then install the new video driver. Again, the
reason falls on Windows being dumb.

 

[xfile]

Yes, I agree with you.

For newer models, hardware and software vendors do get benefits (or at least
try to avoid penalities for not being considered) by providing compatiable
drivers or versions so they could push sales.

And..

> The attitude with many here seems to be one of "Mine's okay so you must
> either have crap equipment or be stupid or both. This is sad because it
> damages not only Microsoft but the whole field of "Amateur" computing.

I also resent the above attitude and those persons simply don't know what is
compassion.

Both sides are rarely thinking from the user's point of view, and if they
want users to adopt their component (OS in this case), they have to make
sure that it will work with the systems and solve the problems, and excuses
are not relevant to or cared by end users.

None will expect 100% compatible and trouble free and that's why we have a
word called - mainstream.


"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:eYIJE1$yHHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> xfile wrote:
>>> No, it's the best the hardware vendors who wrote the drivers can do.
>>> It's not Microsoft's job to write drivers.
>>
>> To be fair, Microsoft has to provide enough resources and "incentives"
>> for vendors to do so in the same way that Linux community has to do.
>>
>> If you were the CEO of the vendor, why would you want to spend tremendous
>> efforts on doing so for the "old" hardware? Will you benefit from it?
>>
>> Will you do things that only have costs but not benefits as a rational
>> business decision-maker?
>>
>
> Quite fair. There is "Some" incentive to cover older hardware since if
> people go buy new they won't necessarily buy a brand that let them down
> once already. However it is one thing to release an OS to manufacturers
> for pre install (So the people enjoying some of the profit do the beta
> testing and quite another to sell something in a box for ordinary shoppers
> to buy that most likely won't work properly on their hardware. This is
> unavoidable to some extent, but the fact that it was hyped to death and
> will be disappointing to many makes this seem worse.
>
> I think many will go for the ultimate version simply to get "The Best" so
> the disappointment / annoyance factor will be even higher. What you don't
> then need is someone endlessly repeating "It's your own fault for not
> ensuring compatibility"
>
> To some extent we are "Spoiled" by XP because it does things very well and
> quite honestly I'd feel cheated if I bought the most expensive MS OS ever
> only to find it caused me so much trouble. The attitude with many here
> seems to be one of "Mine's okay so you must either have crap equipment or
> be stupid or both. This is sad because it damages not only Microsoft but
> the whole field of "Amateur" computing.

 

[xfile]

Thank you although newer models usually don't need to use it but they do
have.


"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
news:6-qdnSZGQYX_LT_bnZ2dnUVZ8s3inZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:06:48 -0700, Mr. Happy wrote:
>
>> Swingman wrote:
>>
>>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OdWdnbQyjZYHAj_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:52:12 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Stephan Rose" wrote in messag
>>>>>
>>>>>> How would I even go about uninstalling whatever drive initially
>>>>>> placed
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> Vista? The device manager just lists my nVidia driver now so I
>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>> even know what driver vista initially placed. I never bother to look
>>>>>> for that since my normal procedure with windows is to install it and
>>>>>> then install the latest nVidia driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a monitor/brand/display adapter issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> How old is the monitor? nVidia is infamous for leaving older (and not
>>>>> all that old) monitor's out of their "updated" drivers.
>>>>
>>>> Monitor is probably about 1.5 years old, is is a 20.1 inch 1600x1200
>>>> flatpanel.
>>>>
>>>> It works flawlessly with the latest nVidia drivers under Linux.
>>>> It works flawlessly with the latest nVidia drivers under WinXP. And I
>>>> seriously mean latest, I just updated my nVidia drivers under XP a
>>>> couple
>>>> of days ago.
>>>>
>>>> So I don't see why nVidia would leave it out of Vista if they support
>>>> it
>>>> properly everywhere else.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you installed an "updated" driver, you can usually "roll back" the
>>>>> display adapter driver in Device Manager.
>>>>
>>>> That'd just bring me back to the default driver that Vista picked,
>>>> which didn't do any better.
>>>>
>>>> I actually even tried to change my monitor driver from the generic PnP
>>>> driver to Digital Flatpanel 1600x1200 but it made no difference.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My bet is that your system doesn't have the correct monitor driver
>>> installed.
>>
>> Sorry but monitors don't have drivers. You've used a computer before,
>> no?
>
> Actually under windows, they do. It likely is just information regarding
> the capability of the monitor, but it still gets installed as a driver.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> §g???«ä?¥X?¤é???????
> §g???§Ñ?????????

 

[Richard Urban]

Drivers - Drivers - Drivers

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
news:OdWdnbsyjZZKED_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:39:26 -0400, Richard Urban wrote:
>
>> Stephan has been around for months knocking Vista, without even having
>> tried
>> it.
>>
>> Now he can do it with "authority"!
>>
>> Sad piece of work, this fellow, almost as bad as Alias.
>>
>
> Please, do me a favor...don't compare me with Alias. Yes I'm no big fan of
> Vista and there are things about it I don't like, but I don't do what
> Alias
> does. Not even remotely. My main reason to coming to this NG was educating
> myself on Vista and it has been quite educational. I might occasionally
> answer to OS specific discussions when such discussions actually contain
> constructive statements and not insulting contests between Alias and
> Frank...but I don't go around and post "Get Ubuntu" to every vista problem
> post now do I?
>
> Now, if you have any actual constructive thoughts and know of a solution
> to any of the problems. Then please, by all means, I'd be interested in
> hearing it. Google has not revealed much more other than that I'm not the
> only one with said issues.
>
> So I'm at the end of the road. More than install the OS and install the
> appropriate drivers I can't do. But hey, if you know something I don't,
> something else I could do, please do share. I will actually go give it a
> try.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
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> å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

 

[Adam Albright]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:16:58 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>Stephan Rose wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:39:49 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>I seriously gave it a try and approached it with an open mind.
>>>
>>>Sure you did... if your job was to paint the Sistine Chapel, we'd be looking
>>>down, not up.
>>>
>>
>>
>> What more than install the OS, install the latest drivers, am I supposed
>> to do? Please...be so kind as to enlighten me.
>>
>> Live with 1024x768 on a 1600x1200 LCD? no thank you.
>>
>> If *you* have the solution to that problem for instance, that apparently
>> nobody else yet does, then please! Let's hear it! I'd be most interested.
>>
>
>And all along I thought you actually knew what you were doing?
>Sheese...!
>Frank

Hey Frankie, do you constantly argue with you wife like you argue with
everybody here? If so, and I bet it's a yes, she has my sympathy.

 

[ray]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:24:00 -0400, Mike wrote:

> In article <OdWdnb8yjZaFHj_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>
>> - Video does not work beyond 1024x768, latest drivers. Dealbreaker right
>> there. Google reveals that I'm not the only one with the issue and
>> apparently the only fix I've seen so far is to use the VGA output instead.
>> Difficult to do with a video card that only has DVI outputs, not to
>> mention that I run a dual monitor setup and need both my outputs no matter
>> what the type. Not even manually choosing the "1600x1200 Digital Flatpanel"
>> driver fixes this. So yes, I tried.
>
> Driver issue.
>
>>
>> - My *MICROSOFT* Keyboard is not recognized correctly. It's a Japanese
>> keyboard, I select "Japanese" layout...and it does not give me a Japanese
>> layout no matter what I do. What else beyond selecting "Japanese" as my
>> keyboard type and layout am I supposed to friggin do?? Call bill gates?
>> Again, dealbreaker right there if I can't properly use my keyboard!
>
> Driver issue.
>
>>
>> - Looking into the device manager I see about 4-5 other devices not
>> supported, including my SATA controller. Hard drive does obviously work
>> since Vista is running but I wonder if it was running at its optimum
>> performance seeing that the device manager was complaining about not
>> having a driver for the controller.
>
> Driver issue.
>
>> I mean seriously, THIS is the best Microsoft can do??? THIS is supposed to
>> be progress? Advancement?? It can't even work correctly out of the box
>> with my very up to date hardware!
>
> No, it's the best the hardware vendors who wrote the drivers can do. It's not Microsoft's job to write drivers.
>
> Mike

Who gives a rat's ass. If it doesn't work - it doesn't work!!

 

[Mr. Arnold]

You little piss ant, I am going to get you here.

You need to hop back under your rock and
hop around in the coffin dirt you sweep under the rock with your little
broom, and you kicked around with your size two shoes, you little piss
ant.

You are nothing but a low-life rolling in coffin dirt piss ant. I don't get
into conversations with low-life rolling in the coffin dirt piss ants like
you, live with it.

that's a soft logical , and you don't deserve a hard
,
because I always got to keep an eye on Adam Piss Ant Hopalong a NG
*clown*, hopping up and down threads. <g>

 

[Adam Albright]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:43:01 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:


>Remember the insults you hurled at me?

You write them down?

>I do! Well I did install urbuttoo
>on another box with an ati card and guess what? It's the worse linux os
>out there and I've tried at least half a dozen or more over the years.

>Craw back into your linux loser hole now doris before you once again
>make a stupid fool out of yourself.

You give lessons on how to be a stupid fool? You'd be a great teacher
Frankie since you obviously had lots of practice.