Re: cola nut sees a "mass migration" to Linux

[Moshe Goldfarb]

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:04:11 -0500, DFS wrote:

> thad05 finds it "interesting that success for MS has now essentially been
> redefined from 'crushing Linux' to 'holding off the mass migration'."
>
> Wake me when it's over.

Every year is the year of Linux.
FWIW I've been hearing this same story for 10 or more years and it still
hasn't happened.
In fact like a rocket with no fuel, it still hasn't even gotten off the
ground.

Linux is sitting at 0.6 percent of the desktop market or so.
Even the BBC has it at 0.8 percent, I suspect that is high BTW.

You'll be sleeping a long, long time at the rate Linux is going nowhere.


--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

 

[thad05@tux.glaci.delete-this.com]

Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Every year is the year of Linux.
> FWIW I've been hearing this same story for 10 or more years and it still
> hasn't happened.
> In fact like a rocket with no fuel, it still hasn't even gotten off the
> ground.

Yup, you are right... every year IS the year of Linux. Every
year, Linux improves and adds more users. That is just the way
it works. It doesn't have to happen all at once to happen.

Riddle me this: What exact year was The Year of The Internet?
Ask 10 different people and you will probably get 10 different
answers if even all 10 have an answer. There was a point at
which less than 1 percent of computer users had Internet
access and growth look equally small... and yet look at where
we are now.

> Linux is sitting at 0.6 percent of the desktop market or so.
> Even the BBC has it at 0.8 percent, I suspect that is high BTW.
>
> You'll be sleeping a long, long time at the rate Linux is going nowhere.

There's that 'going nowhere' spin again, even though the evidence
undeniably says otherwise.

Thad
--
Yeah, I drank the Open Source cool-aid... Unlike the other brand, it had
all the ingredients on the label.

 

[Dr.Hal0nf1r£$]

thad05@tux.glaci.delete-this.com wrote:
> Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Every year is the year of Linux.
>> FWIW I've been hearing this same story for 10 or more years and it
>> still hasn't happened.
>> In fact like a rocket with no fuel, it still hasn't even gotten off
>> the ground.
>
> Yup, you are right... every year IS the year of Linux. Every
> year, Linux improves and adds more users. That is just the way
> it works. It doesn't have to happen all at once to happen.
>
> Riddle me this: What exact year was The Year of The Internet?
> Ask 10 different people and you will probably get 10 different
> answers if even all 10 have an answer. There was a point at
> which less than 1 percent of computer users had Internet
> access and growth look equally small... and yet look at where
> we are now.

'Thing is that the growth in internet usage was born from a nescessity
whereas Linux usage is born from a dysfunction.

How fast did the growth in internet users occur? Rapidly and I would
estimate at least 90% of computers in developed countries are internet
connected while the number of computers in use increases by thousands
daily - Yet still Linux only accounts for less than 1% of the desktop
market.
>

--
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- Personalised Desktop Computers.

 

[Alias]

Dr.Hal0nf1r£$ wrote:
> thad05@tux.glaci.delete-this.com wrote:
>> Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Every year is the year of Linux.
>>> FWIW I've been hearing this same story for 10 or more years and it
>>> still hasn't happened.
>>> In fact like a rocket with no fuel, it still hasn't even gotten off
>>> the ground.
>> Yup, you are right... every year IS the year of Linux. Every
>> year, Linux improves and adds more users. That is just the way
>> it works. It doesn't have to happen all at once to happen.
>>
>> Riddle me this: What exact year was The Year of The Internet?
>> Ask 10 different people and you will probably get 10 different
>> answers if even all 10 have an answer. There was a point at
>> which less than 1 percent of computer users had Internet
>> access and growth look equally small... and yet look at where
>> we are now.
>
> 'Thing is that the growth in internet usage was born from a nescessity
> whereas Linux usage is born from a dysfunction.
>
> How fast did the growth in internet users occur? Rapidly and I would
> estimate at least 90% of computers in developed countries are internet
> connected while the number of computers in use increases by thousands
> daily - Yet still Linux only accounts for less than 1% of the desktop
> market.
>

Thanks to the successful FUD from people like you and Microsoft. Until
recently, Linux was not very user friendly for the average user. That's
changed and as a result, you will see more and more people moving to
Linux. Yaknow, there were people. including Mick Jagger and Elvis, who
didn't think Rock 'n' Roll would last. That was fifty years ago.

Alias

 

[dennis@home]

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fs5ri7$62m$1@aioe.org...


> Thanks to the successful FUD from people like you and Microsoft. Until
> recently, Linux was not very user friendly for the average user.

This will be fun.. explain how anything M$ does or says affects how user
friendly Linux is, has been or will be? When were M$ in charge of Linux
development? Face it.. it wasn't FUD Linux really was unfriendly, it still
isn't friendly.

> That's changed and as a result, you will see more and more people moving
> to Linux. Yaknow, there were people. including Mick Jagger and Elvis, who
> didn't think Rock 'n' Roll would last. That was fifty years ago.

I expect Linux to last 50 years, it almost has.
There were people saying punk would last 50 years BTW. -)

>
> Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

>>
>
> Thanks to the successful FUD from people like you and Microsoft. Until
> recently, Linux was not very user friendly for the average user. That's
> changed and as a result, you will see more and more people moving to
> Linux. Yaknow, there were people. including Mick Jagger and Elvis, who
> didn't think Rock 'n' Roll would last. That was fifty years ago.
>
> Alias

OMG!!! You are really and truly as stupid and dumb as you appear to
be...LOL!
Frank

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks to the successful FUD from people like you and Microsoft. Until
>> recently, Linux was not very user friendly for the average user.
>> That's changed and as a result, you will see more and more people
>> moving to Linux. Yaknow, there were people. including Mick Jagger and
>> Elvis, who didn't think Rock 'n' Roll would last. That was fifty years
>> ago.
>>
>> Alias
>
> OMG!!! You are really and truly as stupid and dumb as you appear to
> be...LOL!
> Frank

Once again, Frank proves that he can only shoot the messenger and not
address content. Ho hum.

Alias

 

[Alias]

dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fs5ri7$62m$1@aioe.org...
>
>
>> Thanks to the successful FUD from people like you and Microsoft. Until
>> recently, Linux was not very user friendly for the average user.
>
> This will be fun.. explain how anything M$ does or says affects how user
> friendly Linux is, has been or will be? When were M$ in charge of Linux
> development? Face it.. it wasn't FUD Linux really was unfriendly, it
> still isn't friendly.

If you don't think that MS spreads FUD about Linux it's because you are
brainwashed by MS' FUD.

Snip drivel.

Alias

 

[Bob Campbell]

"Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:fs5va6$hlb$4@aioe.org...
> If you don't think that MS spreads FUD about Linux it's because you are
> brainwashed by MS' FUD.

If you don't think that Linux Loonies spread FUD about Windows it's because
you are
brainwashed by Linux Loonie Land FUD.

 

[dennis@home]

"Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:fs5va6$hlb$4@aioe.org...
> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fs5ri7$62m$1@aioe.org...
>>
>>
>>> Thanks to the successful FUD from people like you and Microsoft. Until
>>> recently, Linux was not very user friendly for the average user.
>>
>> This will be fun.. explain how anything M$ does or says affects how user
>> friendly Linux is, has been or will be? When were M$ in charge of Linux
>> development? Face it.. it wasn't FUD Linux really was unfriendly, it
>> still isn't friendly.
>
> If you don't think that MS spreads FUD about Linux it's because you are
> brainwashed by MS' FUD.

People spread FUD, people like you as it happens.

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks to the successful FUD from people like you and Microsoft.
>>> Until recently, Linux was not very user friendly for the average
>>> user. That's changed and as a result, you will see more and more
>>> people moving to Linux. Yaknow, there were people. including Mick
>>> Jagger and Elvis, who didn't think Rock 'n' Roll would last. That was
>>> fifty years ago.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> OMG!!! You are really and truly as stupid and dumb as you appear to
>> be...LOL!
>> Frank
>
>
> Once again, Frank proves that he can only shoot the messenger and not
> address content. Ho hum.
>
> Alias

In your case, the messenger is the content...LOL!
Frank

 

[Alias]

Bob Campbell wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fs5va6$hlb$4@aioe.org...
>> If you don't think that MS spreads FUD about Linux it's because you
>> are brainwashed by MS' FUD.
>
> If you don't think that Linux Loonies spread FUD about Windows it's
> because you are
> brainwashed by Linux Loonie Land FUD.
>
>

The classic school yard "I know you are but what am I?" response. Stop
drinking the kool aide, Bob.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to the successful FUD from people like you and Microsoft.
>>>> Until recently, Linux was not very user friendly for the average
>>>> user. That's changed and as a result, you will see more and more
>>>> people moving to Linux. Yaknow, there were people. including Mick
>>>> Jagger and Elvis, who didn't think Rock 'n' Roll would last. That
>>>> was fifty years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> OMG!!! You are really and truly as stupid and dumb as you appear to
>>> be...LOL!
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Once again, Frank proves that he can only shoot the messenger and not
>> address content. Ho hum.
>>
>> Alias
>
> In your case, the messenger is the content...LOL!
> Frank

In your case the message usually flies right over your head, which,
understandably, frustrates you and provokes you into post raving
insults, lies, profanity and bluster. Maybe if you take some anger
management programs, followed by a finishing school, perhaps you can own
two computers instead of the one POS computer with Vista Basic on it.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:
> Bob Campbell wrote:
>
>> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fs5va6$hlb$4@aioe.org...
>>
>>> If you don't think that MS spreads FUD about Linux it's because you
>>> are brainwashed by MS' FUD.
>>
>>
>> If you don't think that Linux Loonies spread FUD about Windows it's
>> because you are
>> brainwashed by Linux Loonie Land FUD.
>>
>>
>
> The classic school yard "I know you are but what am I?" response. Stop
> drinking the kool aide, Bob.
>
> Alias

You need to get a better argument seeing as how you're the linux troll
in this ng...LOL!
Frank

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to the successful FUD from people like you and Microsoft.
>>>>> Until recently, Linux was not very user friendly for the average
>>>>> user. That's changed and as a result, you will see more and more
>>>>> people moving to Linux. Yaknow, there were people. including Mick
>>>>> Jagger and Elvis, who didn't think Rock 'n' Roll would last. That
>>>>> was fifty years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OMG!!! You are really and truly as stupid and dumb as you appear to
>>>> be...LOL!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Once again, Frank proves that he can only shoot the messenger and not
>>> address content. Ho hum.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> In your case, the messenger is the content...LOL!
>> Frank
>
>
> In your case the message usually flies right over your head, which,
> understandably, frustrates you and provokes you into post raving
> insults, lies, profanity and bluster.

I see my comment went right over your little empty pointy head.

Maybe if you take some anger
> management programs, followed by a finishing school, perhaps you can own
> two computers instead of the one POS computer with Vista Basic on it.

hehehe...still jealous that I have 17 installs of Vista Ultimate
properly running and you're too broke to even afford one little copy of
Vista Basic...LOL!
You're a pathetic POS for human being...hahaha!
Frank

 

[Stephan Rose]

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:36:04 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fs5ri7$62m$1@aioe.org...
>
>
>> Thanks to the successful FUD from people like you and Microsoft. Until
>> recently, Linux was not very user friendly for the average user.
>
> This will be fun.. explain how anything M$ does or says affects how user
> friendly Linux is, has been or will be? When were M$ in charge of Linux
> development? Face it.. it wasn't FUD Linux really was unfriendly, it
> still isn't friendly.
>

Oh come on dennis. Please frigging explain to me what is so extremely
unfriendly about the latest Gnome desktop. There isn't anything I can
think of that wouldn't be related to my developer tasks, which certainly
are beyond the scope of the average home user, that cannot be done point
and click...

Though I will say that when it comes to user-friendliness that the Gnome
desktop is far superior to the KDE desktop. I find KDE to be a lot less
friendly as it always seems to lack many of the UI shortcuts that Gnome
has.

Like for instance, if I want to burn a CD or DVD image, Gnome just lets
me right click the file and select "Burn Disk..." right there from the
file manager. Try that under Vista...oh wait..you can't. Well, you
also can't from KDE. Just as one example.

--
Stephan
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[the wharf rat]

In article <H-KdnVbxD8tsNnvanZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>
>Like for instance, if I want to burn a CD or DVD image, Gnome just lets
>me right click the file and select "Burn Disk..." right there from the

Bah. Use cdrecord. Clicking stuff is for windows users.

 

[dennis@home]

"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
news:H-KdnVbxD8tsNnvanZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:36:04 +0000, dennis@home wrote:
>
>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fs5ri7$62m$1@aioe.org...
>>
>>
>>> Thanks to the successful FUD from people like you and Microsoft. Until
>>> recently, Linux was not very user friendly for the average user.
>>
>> This will be fun.. explain how anything M$ does or says affects how user
>> friendly Linux is, has been or will be? When were M$ in charge of Linux
>> development? Face it.. it wasn't FUD Linux really was unfriendly, it
>> still isn't friendly.
>>
>
> Oh come on dennis. Please frigging explain to me what is so extremely
> unfriendly about the latest Gnome desktop. There isn't anything I can
> think of that wouldn't be related to my developer tasks, which certainly
> are beyond the scope of the average home user, that cannot be done point
> and click...

I refer you to ndis wrappers needed to get many wireless cards to work as an
example of the friendliness of Linux and leave it to the reader to decide.

>
> Though I will say that when it comes to user-friendliness that the Gnome
> desktop is far superior to the KDE desktop. I find KDE to be a lot less
> friendly as it always seems to lack many of the UI shortcuts that Gnome
> has.

You have to get the graphics working first.
I have found that some distros like Ubuntu 7.10 are actually worse at
graphics device support than their older versions.
I put forth the experience I have had with several 845 chipset notebooks as
an example of stuff that did work and now doesn't work properly without
command line chants and editing of files (I could say using ed but that
would be FUD).

>
> Like for instance, if I want to burn a CD or DVD image, Gnome just lets
> me right click the file and select "Burn Disk..." right there from the
> file manager. Try that under Vista...oh wait..you can't. Well, you
> also can't from KDE. Just as one example.

Have you tried Vista?

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:

>
> hehehe...still jealous that I have 17 installs of Vista Ultimate
> properly running

How can one be jealous of something that isn't true?

Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>>
>> hehehe...still jealous that I have 17 installs of Vista Ultimate
>> properly running
>
>
> How can one be jealous of something that isn't true?
>
> Alias

Lying will not hide your jealousy or your being broke...LOL!
Frank