Linux servers hacked - who would have thought

[Leythos]

In article <ev#P5814HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
Arnold@Arnold.com> says...
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2133add86ce84f2e989929@adfree.Usenet.com...
> > In article <enND3w04HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
> > Arnold@Arnold.com> says...
> >> > I've decided to move back from Vista to XP until Vista's been on the
> >> > street for 12 months and until enough hardware has been replaced with
> >> > at
> >> > least Core 2 Duo machines with 512MB Video cards.
> >>
> >> Vista came on this new HP dv9000 Entertainment laptop I got back 4/2007,
> >> when the laptop that was running XP Pro became a door stop.
> >>
> >> Vista Ultimate has done everything I have asked of it of both .Net
> >> development and entertainment wise with no problems. I am happy with it,
> >> and
> >> I'll never go back to XP.
> >
> > Yep, I can see that on the newest hardware it would handle Vista well,
> > but, if it's running vista at an acceptable speed then it's going to fly
> > with XP or 2003 on it.
> >
> > I've been unable to find any ROI in Vista for businesses or people that
> > make money off having a computer (technical types).
>
> I have been in companies that were still using Win 9'x workstations for part
> of its work force with some even down to Win 3'x and DOS 622, while the
> rest were on NT class O/S machines.
>
> It's like with anything that deals with Risk Management and ROI -- the need.

The thing that really sucks is when MS makes it impossible to get Office
2003 now. Office 2003 was/is stable, works well and most people have
enough computer to use it without lag. Office 2007 is a complete PIG,
and I can actually type faster than it puts it on the screen, even under
Win XP systems. I can't even order Office 2003 any more.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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[Adam Albright]

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:30:07 -0400, Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:


>The thing that really sucks is when MS makes it impossible to get Office
>2003 now. Office 2003 was/is stable, works well and most people have
>enough computer to use it without lag. Office 2007 is a complete PIG,
>and I can actually type faster than it puts it on the screen, even under
>Win XP systems. I can't even order Office 2003 any more.

You can't be trying very hard.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Microsoft+Office+2003&btnG=Google+Search

 

[Mr. Arnold]

> The thing that really sucks is when MS makes it impossible to get Office
> 2003 now. Office 2003 was/is stable, works well and most people have
> enough computer to use it without lag. Office 2007 is a complete PIG,
> and I can actually type faster than it puts it on the screen, even under
> Win XP systems. I can't even order Office 2003 any more.
>

Yeah, I like Office 2003 myself and have it in storage with the rest of my
stuff, while on the road. I am getting pretty use to Microsoft Works now on
Vista.

I'll be in Columbus for an interview with a consulting firm, for hopefully a
fulltime position with them. I am tired of moving around the US contracting.

 

[Leythos]

In article <u9E$ZP24HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
Arnold@Arnold.com> says...
>
>
> > The thing that really sucks is when MS makes it impossible to get Office
> > 2003 now. Office 2003 was/is stable, works well and most people have
> > enough computer to use it without lag. Office 2007 is a complete PIG,
> > and I can actually type faster than it puts it on the screen, even under
> > Win XP systems. I can't even order Office 2003 any more.
> >
>
> Yeah, I like Office 2003 myself and have it in storage with the rest of my
> stuff, while on the road. I am getting pretty use to Microsoft Works now on
> Vista.
>
> I'll be in Columbus for an interview with a consulting firm, for hopefully a
> fulltime position with them. I am tired of moving around the US contracting.
>

Yep, I started my own company a long time ago, was on the road 50 weeks
a year doing sales and design work, was a pain living in a hotel all
that time. I quit that crap and have never been happier - now when I
take a job outside the area it's because I want it and I can take the
family with me for a mini-vacation.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

 

[Leythos]

In article <u9E$ZP24HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
Arnold@Arnold.com> says...
>
>
> > The thing that really sucks is when MS makes it impossible to get Office
> > 2003 now. Office 2003 was/is stable, works well and most people have
> > enough computer to use it without lag. Office 2007 is a complete PIG,
> > and I can actually type faster than it puts it on the screen, even under
> > Win XP systems. I can't even order Office 2003 any more.
> >
>
> Yeah, I like Office 2003 myself and have it in storage with the rest of my
> stuff, while on the road. I am getting pretty use to Microsoft Works now on
> Vista.
>
> I'll be in Columbus for an interview with a consulting firm, for hopefully a
> fulltime position with them. I am tired of moving around the US contracting.
>

Send me an email to the spamfree account below

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

 

[Saran]

Mr. Arnold wrote:
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2133add86ce84f2e989929@adfree.Usenet.com...
>> In article <enND3w04HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
>> Arnold@Arnold.com> says...
>>>> I've decided to move back from Vista to XP until Vista's been on
>>>> the street for 12 months and until enough hardware has been
>>>> replaced with at
>>>> least Core 2 Duo machines with 512MB Video cards.
>>>
>>> Vista came on this new HP dv9000 Entertainment laptop I got back
>>> 4/2007, when the laptop that was running XP Pro became a door stop.
>>>
>>> Vista Ultimate has done everything I have asked of it of both .Net
>>> development and entertainment wise with no problems. I am happy
>>> with it, and
>>> I'll never go back to XP.
>>
>> Yep, I can see that on the newest hardware it would handle Vista
>> well, but, if it's running vista at an acceptable speed then it's
>> going to fly with XP or 2003 on it.
>>
>> I've been unable to find any ROI in Vista for businesses or people
>> that make money off having a computer (technical types).
>
> I have been in companies that were still using Win 9'x workstations
> for part of its work force with some even down to Win 3'x and DOS
> 622, while the rest were on NT class O/S machines.
>
> It's like with anything that deals with Risk Management and ROI --
> the need.

But where is the need now, with Vista? What would most people get in
Vista that they don't ready have in XP or other?

-saran

 

[Saran]

Leythos wrote:
> In article <ev#P5814HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
> Arnold@Arnold.com> says...
>>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2133add86ce84f2e989929@adfree.Usenet.com...
>>> In article <enND3w04HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "Mr. Arnold"
>>> <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> says...
>>>>> I've decided to move back from Vista to XP until Vista's been on
>>>>> the street for 12 months and until enough hardware has been
>>>>> replaced with at
>>>>> least Core 2 Duo machines with 512MB Video cards.
>>>>
>>>> Vista came on this new HP dv9000 Entertainment laptop I got back
>>>> 4/2007, when the laptop that was running XP Pro became a door
>>>> stop.
>>>>
>>>> Vista Ultimate has done everything I have asked of it of both .Net
>>>> development and entertainment wise with no problems. I am happy
>>>> with it, and
>>>> I'll never go back to XP.
>>>
>>> Yep, I can see that on the newest hardware it would handle Vista
>>> well, but, if it's running vista at an acceptable speed then it's
>>> going to fly with XP or 2003 on it.
>>>
>>> I've been unable to find any ROI in Vista for businesses or people
>>> that make money off having a computer (technical types).
>>
>> I have been in companies that were still using Win 9'x workstations
>> for part of its work force with some even down to Win 3'x and DOS
>> 622, while the rest were on NT class O/S machines.
>>
>> It's like with anything that deals with Risk Management and ROI --
>> the need.
>
> The thing that really sucks is when MS makes it impossible to get
> Office 2003 now. Office 2003 was/is stable, works well and most
> people have enough computer to use it without lag. Office 2007 is a
> complete PIG, and I can actually type faster than it puts it on the
> screen, even under Win XP systems. I can't even order Office 2003 any
> more.

That's the big problem with Micorsoft... they jsut don't get it that
people want to have a choice rather than being practically forced to the
new version, even if just by lack of supply of the previous version as
you described. Office 2003 is a pretty solid version, runs fine on my
old laptop too (an old pentium 2)... and I'm just shudder at the thought
of attempting to run 2007 on it.

-saran

 

[Mr. Arnold]

"Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
news:eU7Ybu24HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Mr. Arnold wrote:
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2133add86ce84f2e989929@adfree.Usenet.com...
>>> In article <enND3w04HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
>>> Arnold@Arnold.com> says...
>>>>> I've decided to move back from Vista to XP until Vista's been on
>>>>> the street for 12 months and until enough hardware has been
>>>>> replaced with at
>>>>> least Core 2 Duo machines with 512MB Video cards.
>>>>
>>>> Vista came on this new HP dv9000 Entertainment laptop I got back
>>>> 4/2007, when the laptop that was running XP Pro became a door stop.
>>>>
>>>> Vista Ultimate has done everything I have asked of it of both .Net
>>>> development and entertainment wise with no problems. I am happy
>>>> with it, and
>>>> I'll never go back to XP.
>>>
>>> Yep, I can see that on the newest hardware it would handle Vista
>>> well, but, if it's running vista at an acceptable speed then it's
>>> going to fly with XP or 2003 on it.
>>>
>>> I've been unable to find any ROI in Vista for businesses or people
>>> that make money off having a computer (technical types).
>>
>> I have been in companies that were still using Win 9'x workstations
>> for part of its work force with some even down to Win 3'x and DOS
>> 622, while the rest were on NT class O/S machines.
>>
>> It's like with anything that deals with Risk Management and ROI --
>> the need.
>
> But where is the need now, with Vista? What would most people get in Vista
> that they don't ready have in XP or other?

That's for the end-user to determine as to what he or she wants, not you
or I. Or am I missing something here?

 

[norm]

Mr. Arnold wrote:
> You can simply crawl back into your hole.
Not everyone participating in the thread attacked Leythos. You painted
with a broad brush, and your inattention to whom you were including in
your "defense" of him speaks volumes.

--
norm

 

[Mr. Arnold]

"norm" <noone@afakeddomain.net> wrote in message
news:%23XUUzt34HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Mr. Arnold wrote:
>> You can simply crawl back into your hole.
> Not everyone participating in the thread attacked Leythos. You painted
> with a broad brush, and your inattention to whom you were including in
> your "defense" of him speaks volumes.

The only thing that speaks volumes is that you need to run your mouth, which
your mouth will be ignored now -- crawl back into your hole.

This is a that's a soft logical .

 

[Leythos]

In article <ueMfjz24HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, none@nospam says...
> That's the big problem with Micorsoft... they jsut don't get it that
> people want to have a choice rather than being practically forced to the
> new version, even if just by lack of supply of the previous version as
> you described. Office 2003 is a pretty solid version, runs fine on my
> old laptop too (an old pentium 2)... and I'm just shudder at the thought
> of attempting to run 2007 on it.

I'm running it on 9 machines, all of them are single core CPU's or
P4/3.2Ghz machines, 2 or more GB RAM, SATA-II drives, fast video cards
(256MB or less), and it's just a pig for performance.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

 

[Wayne M. Poe]

Mr. Arnold wrote:
> "norm" <noone@afakeddomain.net> wrote in message
> news:%23XUUzt34HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Mr. Arnold wrote:
>>> You can simply crawl back into your hole.
>> Not everyone participating in the thread attacked Leythos. You
>> painted with a broad brush, and your inattention to whom you were
>> including in your "defense" of him speaks volumes.
>
> The only thing that speaks volumes is that you need to run your
> mouth, which your mouth will be ignored now -- crawl back into your
> hole.
> This is a that's a soft logical .

And who made you a newgroup moderator? When did you become he who
decides who can say what and when?

--
Wayne

 

[Saran]

Mr. Arnold wrote:
> "Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
> news:eU7Ybu24HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Mr. Arnold wrote:
>>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.2133add86ce84f2e989929@adfree.Usenet.com...
>>>> In article <enND3w04HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "Mr. Arnold"
>>>> <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> says...
>>>>>> I've decided to move back from Vista to XP until Vista's been on
>>>>>> the street for 12 months and until enough hardware has been
>>>>>> replaced with at
>>>>>> least Core 2 Duo machines with 512MB Video cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vista came on this new HP dv9000 Entertainment laptop I got back
>>>>> 4/2007, when the laptop that was running XP Pro became a door
>>>>> stop. Vista Ultimate has done everything I have asked of it of
>>>>> both .Net
>>>>> development and entertainment wise with no problems. I am happy
>>>>> with it, and
>>>>> I'll never go back to XP.
>>>>
>>>> Yep, I can see that on the newest hardware it would handle Vista
>>>> well, but, if it's running vista at an acceptable speed then it's
>>>> going to fly with XP or 2003 on it.
>>>>
>>>> I've been unable to find any ROI in Vista for businesses or people
>>>> that make money off having a computer (technical types).
>>>
>>> I have been in companies that were still using Win 9'x workstations
>>> for part of its work force with some even down to Win 3'x and DOS
>>> 622, while the rest were on NT class O/S machines.
>>>
>>> It's like with anything that deals with Risk Management and ROI --
>>> the need.
>>
>> But where is the need now, with Vista? What would most people get in
>> Vista that they don't ready have in XP or other?
>
> That's for the end-user to determine as to what he or she wants, not
> you or I. Or am I missing something here?

I agree the actual "need" is not for you or I to decide, but the the
question of what one gets in Vista that they cannot get in XP remains.

-saran

 

[Mr. Arnold]

>
> And who made you a newgroup moderator? When did you become he who
> decides who can say what and when?

Do you think I really care? Man go get a life if you can find it.

 

[Adam Albright]

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:58:24 -0400, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote:

>
>"norm" <noone@afakeddomain.net> wrote in message
>news:%23XUUzt34HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Mr. Arnold wrote:
>>> You can simply crawl back into your hole.
>> Not everyone participating in the thread attacked Leythos. You painted
>> with a broad brush, and your inattention to whom you were including in
>> your "defense" of him speaks volumes.
>
>The only thing that speaks volumes is that you need to run your mouth, which
>your mouth will be ignored now -- crawl back into your hole.
>
>This is a that's a soft logical .

It is abundantly clear that any Bozo that feels he needs to include
Mister in his posts has some serious low self-esteem issues.

ROTFLMAO!

 

[Mr. Arnold]

"Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
news:O6uOMG44HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Mr. Arnold wrote:
>> "Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
>> news:eU7Ybu24HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Mr. Arnold wrote:
>>>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>>> news:MPG.2133add86ce84f2e989929@adfree.Usenet.com...
>>>>> In article <enND3w04HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "Mr. Arnold"
>>>>> <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> says...
>>>>>>> I've decided to move back from Vista to XP until Vista's been on
>>>>>>> the street for 12 months and until enough hardware has been
>>>>>>> replaced with at
>>>>>>> least Core 2 Duo machines with 512MB Video cards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vista came on this new HP dv9000 Entertainment laptop I got back
>>>>>> 4/2007, when the laptop that was running XP Pro became a door
>>>>>> stop. Vista Ultimate has done everything I have asked of it of both
>>>>>> .Net
>>>>>> development and entertainment wise with no problems. I am happy
>>>>>> with it, and
>>>>>> I'll never go back to XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, I can see that on the newest hardware it would handle Vista
>>>>> well, but, if it's running vista at an acceptable speed then it's
>>>>> going to fly with XP or 2003 on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been unable to find any ROI in Vista for businesses or people
>>>>> that make money off having a computer (technical types).
>>>>
>>>> I have been in companies that were still using Win 9'x workstations
>>>> for part of its work force with some even down to Win 3'x and DOS
>>>> 622, while the rest were on NT class O/S machines.
>>>>
>>>> It's like with anything that deals with Risk Management and ROI --
>>>> the need.
>>>
>>> But where is the need now, with Vista? What would most people get in
>>> Vista that they don't ready have in XP or other?
>>
>> That's for the end-user to determine as to what he or she wants, not you
>> or I. Or am I missing something here?
>
> I agree the actual "need" is not for you or I to decide, but the the
> question of what one gets in Vista that they cannot get in XP remains.

I am not here to debate or listen to someone's opinions as to who needs
what, and in general, not about anything else either as far as that is
concerned, nothing against you personally.

If one wants to use Vista and he or she is happy with it, then one uses it.
If one is not happy with Vista and he or she doesn't want to use Vista, then
one doesn't use it. If one doesn't want to use Vista out of the
gate/period, then he or she doesn't use it.

As to the reasons why about any of it, I don't care. I am here for one thing
and one thing only. And that's to try to help the poster that needs help, if
I can provide it.

I can't make it any plainer to you than that.

 

[norm]

Mr. Arnold wrote:
>
> "Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
> news:O6uOMG44HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Mr. Arnold wrote:
>>> "Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:eU7Ybu24HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Mr. Arnold wrote:
>>>>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>>>> news:MPG.2133add86ce84f2e989929@adfree.Usenet.com...
>>>>>> In article <enND3w04HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "Mr. Arnold"
>>>>>> <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> says...
>>>>>>>> I've decided to move back from Vista to XP until Vista's been on
>>>>>>>> the street for 12 months and until enough hardware has been
>>>>>>>> replaced with at
>>>>>>>> least Core 2 Duo machines with 512MB Video cards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vista came on this new HP dv9000 Entertainment laptop I got back
>>>>>>> 4/2007, when the laptop that was running XP Pro became a door
>>>>>>> stop. Vista Ultimate has done everything I have asked of it of
>>>>>>> both .Net
>>>>>>> development and entertainment wise with no problems. I am happy
>>>>>>> with it, and
>>>>>>> I'll never go back to XP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, I can see that on the newest hardware it would handle Vista
>>>>>> well, but, if it's running vista at an acceptable speed then it's
>>>>>> going to fly with XP or 2003 on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been unable to find any ROI in Vista for businesses or people
>>>>>> that make money off having a computer (technical types).
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been in companies that were still using Win 9'x workstations
>>>>> for part of its work force with some even down to Win 3'x and DOS
>>>>> 622, while the rest were on NT class O/S machines.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's like with anything that deals with Risk Management and ROI --
>>>>> the need.
>>>>
>>>> But where is the need now, with Vista? What would most people get in
>>>> Vista that they don't ready have in XP or other?
>>>
>>> That's for the end-user to determine as to what he or she wants, not
>>> you or I. Or am I missing something here?
>>
>> I agree the actual "need" is not for you or I to decide, but the the
>> question of what one gets in Vista that they cannot get in XP remains.
>
> I am not here to debate or listen to someone's opinions as to who needs
> what, and in general, not about anything else either as far as that is
> concerned, nothing against you personally.
>
> If one wants to use Vista and he or she is happy with it, then one uses
> it. If one is not happy with Vista and he or she doesn't want to use
> Vista, then one doesn't use it. If one doesn't want to use Vista out of
> the gate/period, then he or she doesn't use it.
>
> As to the reasons why about any of it, I don't care. I am here for one
> thing and one thing only. And that's to try to help the poster that
> needs help, if I can provide it.
>
> I can't make it any plainer to you than that.
>
>
But you helped no one in this thread. All you did was attempt to support
Leythos by insulting everyone else. Supporting someone is not
accomplished be insulting others. Help all you want, but leave the other
crap at the door. I can't make it any plainer to you.
--
norm

 

[Mr. Arnold]

<snipped and basically not read>

Will you go away, because you don't mean anything to me.

 

[Adam Albright]

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:55:15 -0400, "Mr. Arnold" <MR.
Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote:

>
><snipped and basically not read>
>
>Will you go away, because you don't mean anything to me.
>
>

Confirmation of your stupidity. You snip the post that bothers you so
nobody knows what you're bitching about. Is your IQ over 60?

 

[Frank]

Adam Albright wrote:

>
> Confirmation of your stupidity. You snip the post that bothers you so
> nobody knows what you're bitching about. Is your IQ over 60?
>
--------------------------------------------------------------
hehehe...that's at least 60 points higher than your iq...mr genius...lol!
Frank