Linux Is No Vista Killer. (Who would have known?)

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Alias wrote:

>
>
> Vista's only "improvement" over XP is that it is better at pissing
> paying customers off by "improving" WPA and WGA. Your argument is
> theoretical at best and naive at worst.
>
> Alias


More lies, huh? Well, coming from a linux zealot who kisses RS's hairy
arse everyday and and lies for the open sores chapel we all understand
your frustrations.
Loser.
Frank
 
Re: Wine - Yet Another LinTard Failure

"Technomage Hawke" <technomage-hawke@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> HangEveryRepubliKKKan wrote:
>
> Frankly, I would rather have an OS that *can* run on minimal
> hardware/ram/clock speed AND STILL WORK, than an OS that requires such
> insane requirements as to price the normal computer user (grandma/grandpa)
> out of the market.
>

I'd rather have an OS that will actually run all my software and hardware
that I've paid for.
And you can get a Vista Basic PC here in the UK for less than 200 GBP (under
$400), hardly expensive considering the price of things over here.
 
"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fi72ks$b5u$1@aioe.org...
>
> Vista's only "improvement" over XP is that it is better at pissing paying
> customers off by "improving" WPA and WGA. Your argument is theoretical at
> best and naive at worst.
>

Utter crap. I paid for Vista, it's much better than XP in my opinion. WPA
and WGA have never even been an issue on my machine.
I'm not in any way pissed off.
 
Brian W wrote:
>
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fi72ks$b5u$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> Vista's only "improvement" over XP is that it is better at pissing
>> paying customers off by "improving" WPA and WGA. Your argument is
>> theoretical at best and naive at worst.
>>

> Utter crap. I paid for Vista, it's much better than XP in my opinion.
> WPA and WGA have never even been an issue on my machine.
> I'm not in any way pissed off.
>
>


Your "argument" falls under the "naive" category.

Try changing some hardware or updating the hardware's drivers and report
back.

Also, when you reinstall Vista, tell us about how easy it was to phone
activate because it *won't* activate on line.

Alias
 
"Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@ntlSPAMworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fi72ks$b5u$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> Vista's only "improvement" over XP is that it is better at pissing paying
>> customers off by "improving" WPA and WGA. Your argument is theoretical at
>> best and naive at worst.
>>

> Utter crap. I paid for Vista, it's much better than XP in my opinion. WPA
> and WGA have never even been an issue on my machine.
> I'm not in any way pissed off.
>
>


I agree. I think Vista is a vast improvement over XP. No comparison. People
who are having trouble with Vista are probably trying to run it on older,
underpowered hardware. Guess what: its a brand new OS and you can't run it
on your 1999 Pentium III machine! Vista runs like a dream for me on a Core 2
Duo ThinkPad R61.
 
32 or 64 bit?
Just curious.
Vista does run well enough, lots of nifty eye candy features and the search integration is handy.
I'm stuck using Microsoft due to my CAD platform requirements and ASP.NET requirements being the root of my career tools.
I found XP MCE 2005 had better performance in most categories with my new hardware though.
Until DX 10 becomes the standard and shows significant advantages for the cost of general use though...

"Titus Pullo" <null@unix.site> wrote in message news:wYadnQB8puOeKNTanZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@comcast.com...

"Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@ntlSPAMworld.com> wrote in message
news:4kg2j.43877$T8.26288@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fi72ks$b5u$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> Vista's only "improvement" over XP is that it is better at pissing paying
>> customers off by "improving" WPA and WGA. Your argument is theoretical at
>> best and naive at worst.
>>

> Utter crap. I paid for Vista, it's much better than XP in my opinion. WPA
> and WGA have never even been an issue on my machine.
> I'm not in any way pissed off.
>
>


I agree. I think Vista is a vast improvement over XP. No comparison. People
who are having trouble with Vista are probably trying to run it on older,
underpowered hardware. Guess what: its a brand new OS and you can't run it
on your 1999 Pentium III machine! Vista runs like a dream for me on a Core 2
Duo ThinkPad R61.
 
In article <wYadnQB8puOeKNTanZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Titus Pullo <null@unix.site> wrote:
>
>its a brand new OS and you can't run it on your 1999 Pentium III machine!


Why not? I run Linux on my 486 Thinkpads. Even X-windows.

Can you explain to me in what ways Vista in a compelling improvement
over XP?
 
Running Vista Business 64 bit. No problems. Everything runs great.
"Vigilante" <kewlvigilante@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:CF0F6927-57C7-41D2-8FAB-301BFB4295DE@microsoft.com...
32 or 64 bit?
Just curious.
Vista does run well enough, lots of nifty eye candy features and the search integration is handy.
I'm stuck using Microsoft due to my CAD platform requirements and ASP.NET requirements being the root of my career tools.
I found XP MCE 2005 had better performance in most categories with my new hardware though.
Until DX 10 becomes the standard and shows significant advantages for the cost of general use though...

"Titus Pullo" <null@unix.site> wrote in message news:wYadnQB8puOeKNTanZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@comcast.com...

"Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@ntlSPAMworld.com> wrote in message
news:4kg2j.43877$T8.26288@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fi72ks$b5u$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> Vista's only "improvement" over XP is that it is better at pissing paying
>> customers off by "improving" WPA and WGA. Your argument is theoretical at
>> best and naive at worst.
>>

> Utter crap. I paid for Vista, it's much better than XP in my opinion. WPA
> and WGA have never even been an issue on my machine.
> I'm not in any way pissed off.
>
>


I agree. I think Vista is a vast improvement over XP. No comparison. People
who are having trouble with Vista are probably trying to run it on older,
underpowered hardware. Guess what: its a brand new OS and you can't run it
on your 1999 Pentium III machine! Vista runs like a dream for me on a Core 2
Duo ThinkPad R61.
 
"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fic7lc$bmo$4@aioe.org...
> Brian W wrote:
>>
>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fi72ks$b5u$1@aioe.org...
>>>
>>> Vista's only "improvement" over XP is that it is better at pissing
>>> paying customers off by "improving" WPA and WGA. Your argument is
>>> theoretical at best and naive at worst.
>>>

>> Utter crap. I paid for Vista, it's much better than XP in my opinion. WPA
>> and WGA have never even been an issue on my machine.
>> I'm not in any way pissed off.
>>
>>

>
> Your "argument" falls under the "naive" category.


Unlike yours?
>
> Try changing some hardware or updating the hardware's drivers and report
> back.


Done those (well as much as you can change in a laptop.. more RAM , added
Robson.).
It works fine, no activation issues.


> Also, when you reinstall Vista, tell us about how easy it was to phone
> activate because it *won't* activate on line.


Done that.. activates fine.

Now we know you have not done either so what you say is hearsay what I say
is fact.
Do you actually want to try it for yourself now?
 
So people who successfully run a computer with Windows Vista are
"naive".
Apparently you continue to be unable to comprehend the fact many have
no problems.

"changing some hardware or updating the hardware's drivers"
Done both, and never a problem.
Installing drivers when installation is smooth is not a problem
Why do you ASSUME everyone will have problems?

"how easy it was to phone activate"
Define easy.
For me the typical 5 minute call is easy.
If you are afraid of phoning, it may not be easy.

Your inability to use Windows Vista is only reflective on you and not
indicative of everyone else.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
news:fic7lc$bmo$4@aioe.org...
> Your "argument" falls under the "naive" category.
>
> Try changing some hardware or updating the hardware's drivers and
> report back.
>
> Also, when you reinstall Vista, tell us about how easy it was to
> phone activate because it *won't* activate on line.
>
> Alias
 
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:24:01 -0500, Linonut wrote:

> * Kelsey Bjarnason fired off this tart reply:
>
>> As far as I'm aware, nobody has undertaken an actually meaningful attempt
>> to establish usage about all we get, usually, is some bonehead comparing
>> "market share" based on revenues - which is stupid ...

>
> Actually, for most purposes, companies care only about the revenue
> measurements. So there's some logic there.


Some, perhaps, but not _good_ logic.

Consider: analyst A pokes around, sees Linux amounts for, say, 2% total OS
revenues and writes it off. Analyst B counts seats - as much as he can,
at least - sees say 5% usage and contemplates that this is both large
enough to be worth some effort, and apparently growing. Let us not forget
the example of the Mac - it, too, was a perennial bit player, yet
generated considerable revenues for interested parties.

So which analyst is going to get the lion's share of the Linux market for
his app or service? It certainly won't be the first one - despite his
"correct" analysis based on revenues.

> Where I think they make the mistake, though, is that they miss the
> measurements that would indicate a very large potential market for
> Linux-based products and services.


Zackly. You can't count dollars on a product which is by and large free
you have to "count noses" - but you have to do so meaningfully.

> It would seem that DELL and Walmart, among others are waking up to the
> market potential of the GNU/Linux population.


And their units - Walmart's, at least - apparently sold out almost
immediately. Whether this is because people want _Linux_ or because they
want _inexpensive_ and this means forget Windows, who knows, but the fact
is the beasts are selling.

> Microsoft will not go quietly into the night.
>
> And that's actually a good thing, as it keeps up the pressure for
> quality.


On the principle that an opponent with a limp noodle keeps the pressure on
to keep your sword sharpened? :)
 
* Kelsey Bjarnason fired off this tart reply:

> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:24:01 -0500, Linonut wrote:
>
>> Microsoft will not go quietly into the night.
>>
>> And that's actually a good thing, as it keeps up the pressure for
>> quality.

>
> On the principle that an opponent with a limp noodle keeps the pressure on
> to keep your sword sharpened? :)


Microsoft is not a bunch of limp noodles. They have to have some pretty
shit-hot programmers (e.g. kernel or video networking).

It seems obvious that they also have some boneheads, and some
sociopaths, but the boneheads get sorted out fairly quickly there, I'd
warrant.

And, from what I've read, the people that stay are the ones that buy
into the MS ethos. Highly motivated to see the company succeed, that
is.

Microsoft marabunta.

--
Tux rox!
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:46:10 -0500, Linonut <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote:


>* Kelsey Bjarnason fired off this tart reply:


>> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:24:01 -0500, Linonut wrote:
>>
>>> Microsoft will not go quietly into the night.
>>>
>>> And that's actually a good thing, as it keeps up the pressure for
>>> quality.

>>
>> On the principle that an opponent with a limp noodle keeps the pressure on
>> to keep your sword sharpened? :)


>Microsoft is not a bunch of limp noodles. They have to have some pretty
>shit-hot programmers (e.g. kernel or video networking).


No, it's not bad, but it's not great either, is it? And in your heart you kind
of know that although it sounds all right, it's actually just shite.
 
Linonut <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote:
>
> What, like CNN.com? Or sites that have javascript that behaves badly
> with firefox, or use ActiveX? Or that splash so many plugins all over
> the page that they repel impatient guys like me?
>
> Have at it, Mr. Stats. I'm sure you're up to the task of a multiplot
> ANOVA.


The web stats I would probably trust the most would be Google's as
it is a highly trafficked site with very broad appeal. Unfortunately,
they no longer publisher browser operating system stats. I suppose
there is some business value in keeping it secret and selling the
information. Too bad for us.

Thad
 
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