For those who think Ubuntu is an easy install

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Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive and
just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One of the
reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because even
though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface. You
still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following article
talks about the lack of DVD support on the default media player.

If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would need to
open a terminal window and enter the following commands:

sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3

After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the libdvdread3
package. Now to install the necessary decryption library, enter this
command:

sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh

Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need to install
a smarter video player before you can watch the latest Netflix arrival. To
download and install the VLC media player for DVD playback, issue this
command in a Terminal window:

sudo apt-get install vlc

To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click System,
Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia tab, find a text
box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it probably has totem %m in it.
Change this value to vlc %m.

Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu all over
the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is no magic place to
look and it can take a long time to figure out just how to make things work.

This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has. No
wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is FREE and
people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean something.
 
Bill Yanaire wrote:
> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive and
> just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One of the
> reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because even
> though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface. You
> still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following article
> talks about the lack of DVD support on the default media player.
>
> If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would need to
> open a terminal window and enter the following commands:
>
> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
>
> After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the libdvdread3
> package. Now to install the necessary decryption library, enter this
> command:
>
> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
>
> Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need to install
> a smarter video player before you can watch the latest Netflix arrival. To
> download and install the VLC media player for DVD playback, issue this
> command in a Terminal window:
>
> sudo apt-get install vlc
>
> To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click System,
> Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia tab, find a text
> box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it probably has totem %m in it.
> Change this value to vlc %m.
>
> Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu all over
> the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is no magic place to
> look and it can take a long time to figure out just how to make things work.
>
> This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has. No
> wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is FREE and
> people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean something.
>
>
>
>

You obviously haven't heard of Automatix2 but what else is new? I have
yet to have to use a command line to do *anything* and DVDs play just
fine. In fact, my kid likes Japanese videos that will NOT play on
Windows but DO pay in Ubuntu. Oops.

Alias
 
Included - the link

"Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
news:u34$TTqXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive and
> just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One of
> the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because even
> though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface. You
> still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following article

Oops. Forgot the include the link to the article I mentioned

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,138903-page,1-c,linux/article.html





> talks about the lack of DVD support on the default media player.
>
> If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would need to
> open a terminal window and enter the following commands:
>
> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
>
> After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the
> libdvdread3 package. Now to install the necessary decryption library,
> enter this command:
>
> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
>
> Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need to
> install a smarter video player before you can watch the latest Netflix
> arrival. To download and install the VLC media player for DVD playback,
> issue this command in a Terminal window:
>
> sudo apt-get install vlc
>
> To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click System,
> Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia tab, find a
> text box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it probably has totem %m
> in it. Change this value to vlc %m.
>
> Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu all
> over the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is no magic
> place to look and it can take a long time to figure out just how to make
> things work.
>
> This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has. No
> wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is FREE and
> people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean something.
>
>
>
>
 
Re: Included - the link

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> "Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
> news:u34$TTqXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive and
>> just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One of
>> the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because even
>> though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface. You
>> still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following article
>
> Oops. Forgot the include the link to the article I mentioned
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,138903-page,1-c,linux/article.html

PC World? Giggle.

Alias
 
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:19:07 -0800, Bill Yanaire wrote:

> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive
> and just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One
> of the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because
> even though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface.
> You still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following
> article talks about the lack of DVD support on the default media player.

Generally, a new Ubuntu install is quite easy and uneventful. There can
occasoinally be problems, though I've never encountered any.

>
> If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would need
> to open a terminal window and enter the following commands:
>
> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3

Simple answer: you do not 'need' to do that. Much easier and simpler
start synaptic from the system menu, search for 'read dvd' or something
similar, click to select and click to install, though I've never had any
difficulty there either. I read DVDs regularly and never had to install
anything to do it.

>
> After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the
> libdvdread3 package. Now to install the necessary decryption library,
> enter this command:
>
> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
>
> Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need to
> install a smarter video player before you can watch the latest Netflix
> arrival. To download and install the VLC media player for DVD playback,
> issue this command in a Terminal window:
>
> sudo apt-get install vlc
>

Or simply start synaptic from the system menu, search for 'dvd player' or
some such, click to select and click to install. I favour 'ogle' myself.

> To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click System,
> Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia tab, find a
> text box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it probably has totem %m
> in it. Change this value to vlc %m.
>
> Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu all
> over the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is no magic
> place to look and it can take a long time to figure out just how to make
> things work.

This is all part of the 'setup' procedure. An option would be to have
someone knowledgable set up the system, or buy one with Ubuntu pre-
installed. It's still simpler and quicker than doing an install of MS
from scratch - for one thing you don't need all the driver disks which
you've probably lost by now.


>
> This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has. No
> wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is FREE and
> people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean something.

One major advantage of Linux is that once it is properly installed and
set up, it works. And it continues to work.
 
"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fnae8f$ics$1@aioe.org...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive
>> and just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One
>> of the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because
>> even though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface.
>> You still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following
>> article talks about the lack of DVD support on the default media player.
>>
>> If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would need to
>> open a terminal window and enter the following commands:
>>
>> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
>>
>> After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the
>> libdvdread3 package. Now to install the necessary decryption library,
>> enter this command:
>>
>> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
>>
>> Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need to
>> install a smarter video player before you can watch the latest Netflix
>> arrival. To download and install the VLC media player for DVD playback,
>> issue this command in a Terminal window:
>>
>> sudo apt-get install vlc
>>
>> To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click System,
>> Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia tab, find a
>> text box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it probably has totem %m
>> in it. Change this value to vlc %m.
>>
>> Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu all
>> over the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is no magic
>> place to look and it can take a long time to figure out just how to make
>> things work.
>>
>> This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has. No
>> wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is FREE and
>> people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean something.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> You obviously haven't heard of Automatix2 but what else is new? I have yet
> to have to use a command line to do *anything* and DVDs play just fine. In
> fact, my kid likes Japanese videos that will NOT play on Windows but DO
> pay in Ubuntu. Oops.
>
> Alias

That you for proving my point. Yes, I haven't heard of Automatix2 and NOT
knowing about it, I would NOT know to run it. I would look for a solution,
and that could take anywhere from a few minutes to many hours. Too many of
those utilities and hidden and people don't know how to look for them or
where to look for them. Navigating the menu structure in Ubuntu isn't that
intuitive for most. They will get frustrated and say that even though Vista
is a pain in the ass, it just might be the better of two evils. They would
be better to return to XP if they dislike Vista.
 
Bill Yanaire wrote:
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fnae8f$ics$1@aioe.org...
>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive
>>> and just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One
>>> of the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because
>>> even though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface.
>>> You still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following
>>> article talks about the lack of DVD support on the default media player.
>>>
>>> If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would need to
>>> open a terminal window and enter the following commands:
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
>>>
>>> After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the
>>> libdvdread3 package. Now to install the necessary decryption library,
>>> enter this command:
>>>
>>> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
>>>
>>> Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need to
>>> install a smarter video player before you can watch the latest Netflix
>>> arrival. To download and install the VLC media player for DVD playback,
>>> issue this command in a Terminal window:
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get install vlc
>>>
>>> To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click System,
>>> Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia tab, find a
>>> text box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it probably has totem %m
>>> in it. Change this value to vlc %m.
>>>
>>> Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu all
>>> over the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is no magic
>>> place to look and it can take a long time to figure out just how to make
>>> things work.
>>>
>>> This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has. No
>>> wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is FREE and
>>> people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean something.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> You obviously haven't heard of Automatix2 but what else is new? I have yet
>> to have to use a command line to do *anything* and DVDs play just fine. In
>> fact, my kid likes Japanese videos that will NOT play on Windows but DO
>> pay in Ubuntu. Oops.
>>
>> Alias
>
> That you for proving my point. Yes, I haven't heard of Automatix2 and NOT
> knowing about it, I would NOT know to run it. I would look for a solution,
> and that could take anywhere from a few minutes to many hours. Too many of
> those utilities and hidden and people don't know how to look for them or
> where to look for them. Navigating the menu structure in Ubuntu isn't that
> intuitive for most. They will get frustrated and say that even though Vista
> is a pain in the ass, it just might be the better of two evils. They would
> be better to return to XP if they dislike Vista.
>
>

Well, I have a good relationship with a person who's used Ubuntu for a
long time and when I have questions, I ask him and get the answers I
need. If you think you need to figure everything out yourself with no
help, you wouldn't do well with any OS. With Automatix2, all you need to
do is click on Codecs and Plugins. Two more clicks and it's installed.
Too difficult for you?

Alias
 
In article <fnae8f$ics$1@aioe.org>, Alias <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote:
>
>You obviously haven't heard of Automatix2 but what else is new? I have
>yet to have to use a command line to do *anything* and DVDs play just

The command line is a FEATURE not a BUG. Do this in Windows:

find $HOME -type f -mtime +7 -exec grep -i foo {}\ |\
perl -e 'while ($foo=<>) {if (($. % 3)) {print "$.:$foo"}}'

Just a trivial example to show the power of the Command Line!
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
 
Re: Included - the link

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fnaei2$ics$3@aioe.org...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>> "Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
>> news:u34$TTqXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive and
>>> just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One of the
>>> reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because even
>>> though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface. You
>>> still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following article
>>
>> Oops. Forgot the include the link to the article I mentioned
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,138903-page,1-c,linux/article.html
>
> PC World? Giggle.

In spite of Ubuntu's opinion, Alias, you really think Automatix is good?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatix_(software)
 
Re: Included - the link

Michael Jennings wrote:
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fnaei2$ics$3@aioe.org...
>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>> "Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u34$TTqXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive and
>>>> just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One of the
>>>> reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because even
>>>> though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface. You
>>>> still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following article
>>> Oops. Forgot the include the link to the article I mentioned
>>>
>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,138903-page,1-c,linux/article.html
>> PC World? Giggle.
>
> In spite of Ubuntu's opinion, Alias, you really think Automatix is good?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatix_(software)
>
>

Works fine for me and has worked fine with 6.06, 7.04 and 7.10. The
article you cite is old and, if you were up-to-date, you would know that
the Ubuntu team and the Automatix2 team are now in sync.

Alias
 
Re: Included - the link

Bill Yanaire wrote:

>
> "Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
> news:u34$TTqXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive
>> and
>> just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One of
>> the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because
>> even
>> though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface. You
>> still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following article
>
> Oops. Forgot the include the link to the article I mentioned
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,138903-page,1-c,linux/article.html
>
Thanks for the link Bill Yawn. This should help many Wintards** who are
going to try Ubuntu. As to your big gripe about lack of DVD support, out of
the box, within Ubuntu, the article points out the reason: "For legal
reasons, Ubuntu lacks a small system library that decrypts the video on
most commercial DVDs." And that is Ubuntu's official line and as the
article suggests is very easy to deal with, leaving the legal
responsibility for doing so to the end-user.

Cheers.

** I remember when you tried to install Ubuntu and it was all way beyond
your capabilities. Since then you've been slamming Ubuntu continuously.
Fortunately, millions of others have the smarts to install Ubuntu, which is
essentially a no-brainer for Wintards with a brain that works.

--
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Frank's Corporate Headquarters: Business Sign on his Bedroom Door ...
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Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
http://www.binsa.org/
 
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:19:07 -0800, Bill Yanaire wrote:

> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive
> and just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One
> of the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because
> even though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface.
> You still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following
> article talks about the lack of DVD support on the default media player.
>
> If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would need
> to open a terminal window and enter the following commands:
>
> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
>
> After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the
> libdvdread3 package. Now to install the necessary decryption library,
> enter this command:
>
> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
>
> Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need to
> install a smarter video player before you can watch the latest Netflix
> arrival. To download and install the VLC media player for DVD playback,
> issue this command in a Terminal window:
>
> sudo apt-get install vlc
>
> To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click System,
> Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia tab, find a
> text box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it probably has totem %m
> in it. Change this value to vlc %m.
>
> Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu all
> over the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is no magic
> place to look and it can take a long time to figure out just how to make
> things work.
>
> This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has. No
> wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is FREE and
> people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean something.

Bill, almost all of that can be done via the user interface. About the
*only* thing you can't do is the install-css script via the UI.
Everything else is doable with synaptic.

Secondly, there actually *is* a pure GUI way to install libdvdcss2.

Also, Dell sells computers with Ubuntu pre-installed that have DVD
playback capability out of the box.

Oh and, installing windows most certainly isn't as simple as "insert CD,
press install" either. Windows as well has plenty of setup work to do.
Drivers ring a bell?

Matter of fact, XP does *not* have DVD playback capability out of the box
(not sure about Vista's various versions). MS themselves state somewhere,
I have read it before (may have been during the install procedure) that
for DVD playback, Windows Media player requires a 3rd party DVD codec
installed.

So really, you aren't in a much different boat with XP out of the box.

And like I said, Dell sells Ubuntu system now with 100% legal DVD
playback codecs installed (libdvdcss2 isn't legal in the US, not like I
care but...a company like Dell has to care). So if someone doesn't want
to do the setup work, they don't have to!

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Re: Included - the link

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:z%3mj.1815$4w.1446@pd7urf2no...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
>> news:u34$TTqXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive
>>> and
>>> just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One of
>>> the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because
>>> even
>>> though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface. You
>>> still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following article
>>
>> Oops. Forgot the include the link to the article I mentioned
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,138903-page,1-c,linux/article.html
>>
> Thanks for the link Bill Yawn. This should help many Wintards** who are
> going to try Ubuntu. As to your big gripe about lack of DVD support, out
> of
> the box, within Ubuntu, the article points out the reason: "For legal
> reasons, Ubuntu lacks a small system library that decrypts the video on
> most commercial DVDs." And that is Ubuntu's official line and as the
> article suggests is very easy to deal with, leaving the legal
> responsibility for doing so to the end-user.
>
> Cheers.
>
> ** I remember when you tried to install Ubuntu and it was all way beyond
> your capabilities. Since then you've been slamming Ubuntu continuously.
> Fortunately, millions of others have the smarts to install Ubuntu, which
> is
> essentially a no-brainer for Wintards with a brain that works.
>
> --

Yea, and what do you do there slick? What do you work on? Come on now, if
you need help, ask your mother for help. Maybe she can even type for you.

> Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):
> http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg
>
> Frank's Corporate Headquarters: Business Sign on his Bedroom Door ...
> http://www.gneil.com/images/products/1slN1455.jpg
>
> Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
> http://www.binsa.org/
>
 
Re: Included - the link

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:z%3mj.1815$4w.1446@pd7urf2no...
>
>>Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
>>>news:u34$TTqXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive
>>>>and
>>>>just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One of
>>>>the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because
>>>>even
>>>>though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface. You
>>>>still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following article
>>>
>>>Oops. Forgot the include the link to the article I mentioned
>>>
>>>http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,138903-page,1-c,linux/article.html
>>>
>>
>>Thanks for the link Bill Yawn. This should help many Wintards** who are
>>going to try Ubuntu. As to your big gripe about lack of DVD support, out
>>of
>>the box, within Ubuntu, the article points out the reason: "For legal
>>reasons, Ubuntu lacks a small system library that decrypts the video on
>>most commercial DVDs." And that is Ubuntu's official line and as the
>>article suggests is very easy to deal with, leaving the legal
>>responsibility for doing so to the end-user.
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>** I remember when you tried to install Ubuntu and it was all way beyond
>>your capabilities. Since then you've been slamming Ubuntu continuously.
>>Fortunately, millions of others have the smarts to install Ubuntu, which
>>is
>>essentially a no-brainer for Wintards with a brain that works.
>>
>>--
>
>
> Yea, and what do you do there slick? What do you work on? Come on now, if
> you need help, ask your mother for help. Maybe she can even type for you.
>
>
>>Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):
>>http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg
>>
>>Frank's Corporate Headquarters: Business Sign on his Bedroom Door ...
>>http://www.gneil.com/images/products/1slN1455.jpg
>>
>>Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
>>http://www.binsa.org/
>>
>
>
>
"nostop" is a broke, jobless POS lying linux cross-dressing troll.
He couldn't fine his own ass using both hands...but he can sure fine
RS's hairy arse...LOL!
Frank
 
Bill Yanaire wrote:
> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive and
> just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One of the
> reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because even
> though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface. You
> still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following article
> talks about the lack of DVD support on the default media player.
>
> If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would need to
> open a terminal window and enter the following commands:
>
> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
>
> After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the libdvdread3
> package. Now to install the necessary decryption library, enter this
> command:
>
> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
>
> Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need to install
> a smarter video player before you can watch the latest Netflix arrival. To
> download and install the VLC media player for DVD playback, issue this
> command in a Terminal window:
>
> sudo apt-get install vlc
>
> To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click System,
> Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia tab, find a text
> box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it probably has totem %m in it.
> Change this value to vlc %m.
>
> Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu all over
> the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is no magic place to
> look and it can take a long time to figure out just how to make things work.
>
> This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has. No
> wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is FREE and
> people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean something.
>
>
>
>
Actually you can do the same thing without using the command line at
all using the synpatic package manager and adding the mediabuntu
repository.

The reason DVD libdvdcss2 cannot be included is a legal one due to
the DMCA.
 
"Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
news:u34$TTqXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive and
> just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One of
> the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because even
> though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface. You
> still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following article
> talks about the lack of DVD support on the default media player.
>
> If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would need to
> open a terminal window and enter the following commands:
>
> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
>
> After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the
> libdvdread3 package. Now to install the necessary decryption library,
> enter this command:
>
> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
>
> Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need to
> install a smarter video player before you can watch the latest Netflix
> arrival. To download and install the VLC media player for DVD playback,
> issue this command in a Terminal window:
>
> sudo apt-get install vlc
>
> To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click System,
> Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia tab, find a
> text box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it probably has totem %m
> in it. Change this value to vlc %m.
>
> Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu all
> over the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is no magic
> place to look and it can take a long time to figure out just how to make
> things work.
>
> This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has. No
> wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is FREE and
> people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean something.
>
>
>
>
The principle of diminished returns kicks in rapidly with this OS.
Effort to results ratio is extremely poor.
Without a total overhaul...its little more than a train-wreck.
My evaluation is complete...uninstall is only recommendation.
 
forty-nine wrote:
> "Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
> news:u34$TTqXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive and
>>just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One of
>>the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because even
>>though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface. You
>>still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following article
>>talks about the lack of DVD support on the default media player.
>>
>>If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would need to
>>open a terminal window and enter the following commands:
>>
>>sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
>>
>>After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the
>>libdvdread3 package. Now to install the necessary decryption library,
>>enter this command:
>>
>>sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
>>
>>Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need to
>>install a smarter video player before you can watch the latest Netflix
>>arrival. To download and install the VLC media player for DVD playback,
>>issue this command in a Terminal window:
>>
>>sudo apt-get install vlc
>>
>>To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click System,
>>Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia tab, find a
>>text box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it probably has totem %m
>>in it. Change this value to vlc %m.
>>
>>Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu all
>>over the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is no magic
>>place to look and it can take a long time to figure out just how to make
>>things work.
>>
>>This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has. No
>>wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is FREE and
>>people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean something.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> The principle of diminished returns kicks in rapidly with this OS.
> Effort to results ratio is extremely poor.
> Without a total overhaul...its little more than a train-wreck.
> My evaluation is complete...uninstall is only recommendation.
>
>
Exactly! All distros of linux I've ever installed, included ubuntu,
quickly turn from a hobby into job.
Frank
 
"Frank" <fb@osspan.clm> wrote in message
news:ezG1LXuXIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> forty-nine wrote:
>> "Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
>> news:u34$TTqXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the drive
>>>and just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just works". One
>>>of the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because
>>>even though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a graphical interface.
>>>You still need to enter line commands. For instance, the following
>>>article talks about the lack of DVD support on the default media player.
>>>
>>>If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would need to
>>>open a terminal window and enter the following commands:
>>>
>>>sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
>>>
>>>After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the
>>>libdvdread3 package. Now to install the necessary decryption library,
>>>enter this command:
>>>
>>>sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
>>>
>>>Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need to
>>>install a smarter video player before you can watch the latest Netflix
>>>arrival. To download and install the VLC media player for DVD playback,
>>>issue this command in a Terminal window:
>>>
>>>sudo apt-get install vlc
>>>
>>>To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click System,
>>>Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia tab, find a
>>>text box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it probably has totem %m
>>>in it. Change this value to vlc %m.
>>>
>>>Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu all
>>>over the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is no magic
>>>place to look and it can take a long time to figure out just how to make
>>>things work.
>>>
>>>This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has. No
>>>wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is FREE and
>>>people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean something.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The principle of diminished returns kicks in rapidly with this OS.
>> Effort to results ratio is extremely poor.
>> Without a total overhaul...its little more than a train-wreck.
>> My evaluation is complete...uninstall is only recommendation.
> Exactly! All distros of linux I've ever installed, included ubuntu,
> quickly turn from a hobby into job.
> Frank


It has a few clever desktop gimmicks...but for something as simple as
importing a money file into gnucash was a 3 hour ordeal that ended in a
"could not parse /home/gnudata" error that would require hours of research
in crazy linux forums where the usual answer is "It works for me".
With MS Money...never a problem.
Ya get what ya pay for.
 
forty-nine wrote:

> "Frank" <fb@osspan.clm> wrote in message
> news:ezG1LXuXIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>> forty-nine wrote:
>>
>>> "Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u34$TTqXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the
>>>> drive and just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just
>>>> works". One of the reasons that many people think that Ubuntu/Linux
>>>> sucks is because even though Ubuntu has made many strides and has a
>>>> graphical interface. You still need to enter line commands. For
>>>> instance, the following article talks about the lack of DVD support
>>>> on the default media player.
>>>>
>>>> If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would
>>>> need to open a terminal window and enter the following commands:
>>>>
>>>> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
>>>>
>>>> After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the
>>>> libdvdread3 package. Now to install the necessary decryption
>>>> library, enter this command:
>>>>
>>>> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
>>>>
>>>> Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need to
>>>> install a smarter video player before you can watch the latest
>>>> Netflix arrival. To download and install the VLC media player for
>>>> DVD playback, issue this command in a Terminal window:
>>>>
>>>> sudo apt-get install vlc
>>>>
>>>> To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click
>>>> System, Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia
>>>> tab, find a text box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it
>>>> probably has totem %m in it. Change this value to vlc %m.
>>>>
>>>> Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu
>>>> all over the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is
>>>> no magic place to look and it can take a long time to figure out
>>>> just how to make things work.
>>>>
>>>> This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has.
>>>> No wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is
>>>> FREE and people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean something.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The principle of diminished returns kicks in rapidly with this OS.
>>> Effort to results ratio is extremely poor.
>>> Without a total overhaul...its little more than a train-wreck.
>>> My evaluation is complete...uninstall is only recommendation.
>>
>> Exactly! All distros of linux I've ever installed, included ubuntu,
>> quickly turn from a hobby into job.
>> Frank
>
>
>
> It has a few clever desktop gimmicks...but for something as simple as
> importing a money file into gnucash was a 3 hour ordeal that ended in a
> "could not parse /home/gnudata" error that would require hours of
> research in crazy linux forums where the usual answer is "It works for me".
> With MS Money...never a problem.
> Ya get what ya pay for.

And speaking from personal experience I know that there is a whole bunch
of lying going on by the linux trolls about hardware recognition and
driver installation.
You're right...you get what you pay for and free ain't all that free.
Frank
 
Frank wrote:
> forty-nine wrote:
>
>> "Frank" <fb@osspan.clm> wrote in message
>> news:ezG1LXuXIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> forty-nine wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u34$TTqXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>> Some people say that Ubuntu is as easy as putting the DVD in the
>>>>> drive and just installing it. Once Ubuntu is up, everthing "just
>>>>> works". One of the reasons that many people think that
>>>>> Ubuntu/Linux sucks is because even though Ubuntu has made many
>>>>> strides and has a graphical interface. You still need to enter line
>>>>> commands. For instance, the following article talks about the lack
>>>>> of DVD support on the default media player.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you didn't read the article, how would you know that you would
>>>>> need to open a terminal window and enter the following commands:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
>>>>>
>>>>> After you enter your password, Ubuntu will fetch and install the
>>>>> libdvdread3 package. Now to install the necessary decryption
>>>>> library, enter this command:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, the libraries you need are now in place, but you still need
>>>>> to install a smarter video player before you can watch the latest
>>>>> Netflix arrival. To download and install the VLC media player for
>>>>> DVD playback, issue this command in a Terminal window:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get install vlc
>>>>>
>>>>> To make VLC fire up automatically when you insert a DVD, click
>>>>> System, Preferences, Removable Drives and Media. On the Multimedia
>>>>> tab, find a text box labeled Command under Video DVD Discs it
>>>>> probably has totem %m in it. Change this value to vlc %m.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although this isn't a major issue, users have to tweak Linux/Ubuntu
>>>>> all over the place, they don't know what they need to do, there is
>>>>> no magic place to look and it can take a long time to figure out
>>>>> just how to make things work.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is just an example of many many issues that Linux/Ubuntu has.
>>>>> No wonder why Linux only has a tiny piece of the pie. Ubuntu is
>>>>> FREE and people are NOT running to get it. That has to mean
>>>>> something.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The principle of diminished returns kicks in rapidly with this OS.
>>>> Effort to results ratio is extremely poor.
>>>> Without a total overhaul...its little more than a train-wreck.
>>>> My evaluation is complete...uninstall is only recommendation.
>>>
>>> Exactly! All distros of linux I've ever installed, included ubuntu,
>>> quickly turn from a hobby into job.
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> It has a few clever desktop gimmicks...but for something as simple as
>> importing a money file into gnucash was a 3 hour ordeal that ended in
>> a "could not parse /home/gnudata" error that would require hours of
>> research in crazy linux forums where the usual answer is "It works for
>> me".
>> With MS Money...never a problem.
>> Ya get what ya pay for.
>
> And speaking from personal experience I know that there is a whole bunch
> of lying going on by the linux trolls about hardware recognition and
> driver installation.
> You're right...you get what you pay for and free ain't all that free.
> Frank

The ignorant blind leading the ignorant blind. How pathetic can you get?

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