A
Alan Baker
In article <656ab$482dbb17$9763@news.teranews.com>,
Edwin <thorne25@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street
> >>>>>>>>>> Apple
> >>>>>>>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours
> >>>>>>>>>> early?
> >>>>>>>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food
> >>>>>>>>>> court
> >>>>>>>>>> while pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody
> >>>>>>>>>> told
> >>>>>>>>>> them about the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain.
> >>>>>>>>>> Anyhoo, you might be interested to know that the line for the
> >>>>>>>>>> grand
> >>>>>>>>>> opening of the Apple Store stretches a country mile! Four city
> >>>>>>>>>> blocks
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> be precise.
> >>>>>>>>>> </quote>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Photo:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack -
> >>>>>>>>>> %2
> >>>>>>>>>> 0H
> >>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>> izontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >>>>>>>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> desktop"?
> >>>>>>>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales
> >>>>>>>> figures
> >>>>>>>> for software you can get for free.
> >>>>>>> Do you mean like free Firefox where there are plenty of figures to go
> >>>>>>> around?
> >>>>>> You mean that free Firefox that has a Linux version for the Linux
> >>>>>> nobody
> >>>>>> is using?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and
> >>>>>>>> disparage
> >>>>>>>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>> away
> >>>>>>>> for FREE.
> >>>>>>> So why are there so few takers?
> >>>>>> There's enough takers for IBM, Sun, Red Hat and Ubuntu to offer it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If iRiver gave away MP3 players for free how
> >>>>>>> well do you think the iPod would sell?
> >>>>>> That's an apples to oranges comparison.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
> >>>>>>>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many
> >>>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to
> >>>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>> increase of the size of the market in general.
> >>>>>>> Check again.
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> >>>>>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> >>>>>> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> >>>>>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> >>>>>> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> >>>>>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> >>>>>> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> >>>>>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> >>>>>> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
> >>>>>> 2007.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> >>>>>> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> >>>>>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> >>>>>> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first
> >>>>>> calender
> >>>>>> quarter of 2008.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> >>>>>> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
> >>>>>> of 2008
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
> >>>>> Mac growth Q1'08: 51%
> >>>>> Overall growth Q1'08: 12%
> >>>>> Source: Edwin!
> >>>> Who's Edwin, and when did he become an authoritative source for these
> >>>> figures?
> >>> Edwin is you and since you provided the figures, they must at least be
> >>> authoritative for you.
> >> Neither Edwin nor I provided the figures you posted, asshat.
> >
> > Yeah, you did.
> >
> > <http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619>
> >
> > That link says:
> >
> > "Gartner Says Worldwide PC Market Grew 12 Percent in First Quarter of
> > 2008"
> >
> > And it provides the precise figures (in thousands):
> >
> > Company 1Q08 Shipments 1Q07 Shipments 1Q08-1Q07 Growth (%)
> >
> > Total 71,057 63,250 12.3
>
> Why are you omitting three quarters of 2007, asshat?
I'm comparing Mac figures with the figures you provided, Edwin.
>
>
> >> You must be smoking pot again, like you said "upstanding citizens" do.
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Sorry, Edwin, but I don't smoke pot.
>
> Sure you do, asshat. You said upstanding citizens smoke pot. You must
> be saying you're not one of those.
LOL
Another failure in logic from Edwin!
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
Edwin <thorne25@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street
> >>>>>>>>>> Apple
> >>>>>>>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours
> >>>>>>>>>> early?
> >>>>>>>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food
> >>>>>>>>>> court
> >>>>>>>>>> while pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody
> >>>>>>>>>> told
> >>>>>>>>>> them about the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain.
> >>>>>>>>>> Anyhoo, you might be interested to know that the line for the
> >>>>>>>>>> grand
> >>>>>>>>>> opening of the Apple Store stretches a country mile! Four city
> >>>>>>>>>> blocks
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> be precise.
> >>>>>>>>>> </quote>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Photo:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack -
> >>>>>>>>>> %2
> >>>>>>>>>> 0H
> >>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>> izontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >>>>>>>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> desktop"?
> >>>>>>>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales
> >>>>>>>> figures
> >>>>>>>> for software you can get for free.
> >>>>>>> Do you mean like free Firefox where there are plenty of figures to go
> >>>>>>> around?
> >>>>>> You mean that free Firefox that has a Linux version for the Linux
> >>>>>> nobody
> >>>>>> is using?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and
> >>>>>>>> disparage
> >>>>>>>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>> away
> >>>>>>>> for FREE.
> >>>>>>> So why are there so few takers?
> >>>>>> There's enough takers for IBM, Sun, Red Hat and Ubuntu to offer it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If iRiver gave away MP3 players for free how
> >>>>>>> well do you think the iPod would sell?
> >>>>>> That's an apples to oranges comparison.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
> >>>>>>>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many
> >>>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to
> >>>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>> increase of the size of the market in general.
> >>>>>>> Check again.
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> >>>>>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> >>>>>> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> >>>>>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> >>>>>> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> >>>>>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> >>>>>> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> >>>>>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> >>>>>> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
> >>>>>> 2007.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> >>>>>> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> >>>>>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> >>>>>> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first
> >>>>>> calender
> >>>>>> quarter of 2008.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> >>>>>> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
> >>>>>> of 2008
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
> >>>>> Mac growth Q1'08: 51%
> >>>>> Overall growth Q1'08: 12%
> >>>>> Source: Edwin!
> >>>> Who's Edwin, and when did he become an authoritative source for these
> >>>> figures?
> >>> Edwin is you and since you provided the figures, they must at least be
> >>> authoritative for you.
> >> Neither Edwin nor I provided the figures you posted, asshat.
> >
> > Yeah, you did.
> >
> > <http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619>
> >
> > That link says:
> >
> > "Gartner Says Worldwide PC Market Grew 12 Percent in First Quarter of
> > 2008"
> >
> > And it provides the precise figures (in thousands):
> >
> > Company 1Q08 Shipments 1Q07 Shipments 1Q08-1Q07 Growth (%)
> >
> > Total 71,057 63,250 12.3
>
> Why are you omitting three quarters of 2007, asshat?
I'm comparing Mac figures with the figures you provided, Edwin.
>
>
> >> You must be smoking pot again, like you said "upstanding citizens" do.
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Sorry, Edwin, but I don't smoke pot.
>
> Sure you do, asshat. You said upstanding citizens smoke pot. You must
> be saying you're not one of those.
LOL
Another failure in logic from Edwin!
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)