Re: So I really did try linux today (longish)

  • Thread starter Thread starter Moshe Goldfarb
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"brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I am an average home user and perform simple tasks such as
> surfing,e-mail,word and spreadsheet. But Vista fails to do simple basic
> functions such as surfing and annoys me a lot while Ubuntu keeps me happy
> and
> function as I want it to be.

As there is virtually no difference in surfing, email and spreadsheets on
linux, xp and vista I conclude that its *user* problems if you can't get one
of them to work. Stop blaming the tools and learn how to use them.

> I am not interested whether 1 person uses Ubuntu or 1000 people use Ubunu
> and I am not requesting anyone to switch to any OS.
> As a Vista user I am posting my displeasure in these NGs for which I am
> entitled and if any of you Vista fanclub members don't like it,tough luck.
> Only feature I like most in vista is System Restore and I use it very
> often.

As a failed vista user you are telling us that you can't be bothered to do
it right and will blame vista for your own short comings.
 
Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OpiykmDtIHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:um6ko6BtIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:g072ef$p8i$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:g06vn4$eur$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>>>>>>> RonB <ronb02noSPAM@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not Me wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Overall, I have to agree.
>>>>>>>>>>> Linux is not ready to replace Windows for most home users.
>>>>>>>>>> It replaced Windows just fine for me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, but your "needs" were discovered to be looking at web
>>>>>>>>> sites and
>>>>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How about these things?:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Burn CDs.
>>>>>>>> Rip CDs.
>>>>>>>> Listen to music.
>>>>>>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>>>>>>>> Scan and print.
>>>>>>>> Spreadsheets.
>>>>>>>> Presentations
>>>>>>>> Newsgroups.
>>>>>>>> HTML editing.
>>>>>>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>>>>>>>> Make videos.
>>>>>>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>>>>>>>> Translations.
>>>>>>>> Use a dictionary
>>>>>>>> Learn how to touch type.
>>>>>>>> Edit images.
>>>>>>>> Send and receive a fax.
>>>>>>>> Take screenshots.
>>>>>>>> Create .PDF files.
>>>>>>>> Create and use a data base.
>>>>>>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one
>>>>>>>> including Windows Live Messenger.
>>>>>>>> IRC.
>>>>>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and much more!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Worry about:
>>>>>>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>>>>>>>> DRM,
>>>>>>>> Viruses,
>>>>>>>> Root kits,
>>>>>
>>>>> you get them for ubuntu, why don't they need to worry about them?
>>>>
>>>> Nope, no WPA, WGA or DRM. Oops. There isn't one single virus in the
>>>> wild for Linux and there aren't any root kits either.
>>>
>>> Moron, just google for ubutu and root kits and there are plenty of
>>> places telling you how to check for and remove this software that
>>> doesn't exist, including sourceforge.net
>>
>> In theory, yes, in practice, no. Name ONE virus or root kit in the
>> wild that's attacking Ubuntu. Just one. You can't do it. The ONLY way
>> my computer can get hacked is if the hacker is sitting in front of my
>> computer. Live with it and be a good little boy and go update your AV
>> and anti malware apps. I have no need to do that.
>>
>> Snip BS
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> Not true.. Because Linux users think that they are impervious, their
> machines can become carriers. I dare say that yours is one of them..

You'd be wrong, of course.

> Ubuntu has security updates just like all operating systems and programs
> do..

The updates have nothing to do with viruses or malware. Can either of
you name ONE virus that is in the wild, attacking Ubuntu? I didn't think
so and until you do, STFU.

Alias
 
On May 11, 8:13 am, Alias <iamal...@nukethisgmail.com> wrote:
> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Alias" <iamal...@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:g06vn4$eur$1@aioe.org...
> >> Hadron wrote:
> >>> RonB <ronb02noS...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> >>>> Not Me wrote:
>
> >>>>> Overall, I have to agree.
> >>>>> Linux is not ready to replace Windows for most home users.
> >>>> It replaced Windows just fine for me.
>
> >>> Yes, but your "needs" were discovered to be looking at web sites and
> >>> email.
>
> >> How about these things?:
>
> >> Burn CDs.
> >> Rip CDs.
> >> Listen to music.
> >> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
> >> Scan and print.
> >> Spreadsheets.
> >> Presentations
> >> Newsgroups.
> >> HTML editing.
> >> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
> >> Make videos.
> >> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
> >> Translations.
> >> Use a dictionary
> >> Learn how to touch type.
> >> Edit images.
> >> Send and receive a fax.
> >> Take screenshots.
> >> Create .PDF files.
> >> Create and use a data base.
> >> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
> >> Windows Live Messenger.
> >> IRC.
> >> Bluetooth.
>
> >> and much more!
>
> >> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>
> >> Worry about:
> >> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
> >> DRM,
> >> Viruses,
> >> Root kits,
> >> Spyware,
> >> and
> >> Malware.
>
> >> Alias
>
> > Play the big name games?
>
> No, unfortunately the game makers don't see fit to write for Linux. This
> is a reason for keeping an XP box around.
>
> > Run much of the software seen in the large
> > computer stores?
>
> You mean the software like PhotoShop, AutoCad and MS Office that are
> only made for Windows? Of course not but there are comparable programs
> you can install from the Ubuntu repository that are FREE, with no need
> to go to a computer store.
>
> For your average home user, however, they have no need for these
> programs other than games.
>
> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Actually Photoshop (and the whole Adobe CS suite) and MS Office 2008
run just fine on my Mac. So do lots of other mainstream software
packages.
 
TheOtherGuy wrote:
> On May 11, 8:13 am, Alias <iamal...@nukethisgmail.com> wrote:
>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Alias" <iamal...@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g06vn4$eur$1@aioe.org...
>>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>>> RonB <ronb02noS...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>> Not Me wrote:
>>>>>>> Overall, I have to agree.
>>>>>>> Linux is not ready to replace Windows for most home users.
>>>>>> It replaced Windows just fine for me.
>>>>> Yes, but your "needs" were discovered to be looking at web sites and
>>>>> email.
>>>> How about these things?:
>>>> Burn CDs.
>>>> Rip CDs.
>>>> Listen to music.
>>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>>>> Scan and print.
>>>> Spreadsheets.
>>>> Presentations
>>>> Newsgroups.
>>>> HTML editing.
>>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>>>> Make videos.
>>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>>>> Translations.
>>>> Use a dictionary
>>>> Learn how to touch type.
>>>> Edit images.
>>>> Send and receive a fax.
>>>> Take screenshots.
>>>> Create .PDF files.
>>>> Create and use a data base.
>>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>>>> Windows Live Messenger.
>>>> IRC.
>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>> and much more!
>>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>>> Worry about:
>>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>>>> DRM,
>>>> Viruses,
>>>> Root kits,
>>>> Spyware,
>>>> and
>>>> Malware.
>>>> Alias
>>> Play the big name games?
>> No, unfortunately the game makers don't see fit to write for Linux. This
>> is a reason for keeping an XP box around.
>>
>>> Run much of the software seen in the large
>>> computer stores?
>> You mean the software like PhotoShop, AutoCad and MS Office that are
>> only made for Windows? Of course not but there are comparable programs
>> you can install from the Ubuntu repository that are FREE, with no need
>> to go to a computer store.
>>
>> For your average home user, however, they have no need for these
>> programs other than games.
>>
>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Actually Photoshop (and the whole Adobe CS suite) and MS Office 2008
> run just fine on my Mac. So do lots of other mainstream software
> packages.

Not free, though, by any stretch of the imagination.

Alias
 
Alias wrote:

> TheOtherGuy wrote:
>
>> On May 11, 8:13 am, Alias <iamal...@nukethisgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Alias" <iamal...@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:g06vn4$eur$1@aioe.org...
>>>>
>>>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> RonB <ronb02noS...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not Me wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Overall, I have to agree.
>>>>>>>> Linux is not ready to replace Windows for most home users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It replaced Windows just fine for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, but your "needs" were discovered to be looking at web sites and
>>>>>> email.
>>>>>
>>>>> How about these things?:
>>>>> Burn CDs.
>>>>> Rip CDs.
>>>>> Listen to music.
>>>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>>>>> Scan and print.
>>>>> Spreadsheets.
>>>>> Presentations
>>>>> Newsgroups.
>>>>> HTML editing.
>>>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>>>>> Make videos.
>>>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>>>>> Translations.
>>>>> Use a dictionary
>>>>> Learn how to touch type.
>>>>> Edit images.
>>>>> Send and receive a fax.
>>>>> Take screenshots.
>>>>> Create .PDF files.
>>>>> Create and use a data base.
>>>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>>>>> Windows Live Messenger.
>>>>> IRC.
>>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>>> and much more!
>>>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>>>> Worry about:
>>>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>>>>> DRM,
>>>>> Viruses,
>>>>> Root kits,
>>>>> Spyware,
>>>>> and
>>>>> Malware.
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> Play the big name games?
>>>
>>> No, unfortunately the game makers don't see fit to write for Linux. This
>>> is a reason for keeping an XP box around.
>>>
>>>> Run much of the software seen in the large
>>>> computer stores?
>>>
>>> You mean the software like PhotoShop, AutoCad and MS Office that are
>>> only made for Windows? Of course not but there are comparable programs
>>> you can install from the Ubuntu repository that are FREE, with no need
>>> to go to a computer store.
>>>
>>> For your average home user, however, they have no need for these
>>> programs other than games.
>>>
>>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>
>> Actually Photoshop (and the whole Adobe CS suite) and MS Office 2008
>> run just fine on my Mac. So do lots of other mainstream software
>> packages.
>
>
> Not free, though, by any stretch of the imagination.
>
> Alias

Well duh! It's called capitalism!
Of course a lying linux troll, spammer and bigoted atheist like you
hates to pay for the something some else is willing to sell at a fair
market price.
Loser!
Frank
 
On May 12, 9:31 am, Alias <iamal...@removegmail.com> wrote:
> TheOtherGuy wrote:
> > On May 11, 8:13 am, Alias <iamal...@nukethisgmail.com> wrote:
> >> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>
> >>> "Alias" <iamal...@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:g06vn4$eur$1@aioe.org...
> >>>> Hadron wrote:
> >>>>> RonB <ronb02noS...@gmail.com> writes:
> >>>>>> Not Me wrote:
> >>>>>>> Overall, I have to agree.
> >>>>>>> Linux is not ready to replace Windows for most home users.
> >>>>>> It replaced Windows just fine for me.
> >>>>> Yes, but your "needs" were discovered to be looking at web sites and
> >>>>> email.
> >>>> How about these things?:
> >>>> Burn CDs.
> >>>> Rip CDs.
> >>>> Listen to music.
> >>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
> >>>> Scan and print.
> >>>> Spreadsheets.
> >>>> Presentations
> >>>> Newsgroups.
> >>>> HTML editing.
> >>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
> >>>> Make videos.
> >>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
> >>>> Translations.
> >>>> Use a dictionary
> >>>> Learn how to touch type.
> >>>> Edit images.
> >>>> Send and receive a fax.
> >>>> Take screenshots.
> >>>> Create .PDF files.
> >>>> Create and use a data base.
> >>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
> >>>> Windows Live Messenger.
> >>>> IRC.
> >>>> Bluetooth.
> >>>> and much more!
> >>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
> >>>> Worry about:
> >>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
> >>>> DRM,
> >>>> Viruses,
> >>>> Root kits,
> >>>> Spyware,
> >>>> and
> >>>> Malware.
> >>>> Alias
> >>> Play the big name games?
> >> No, unfortunately the game makers don't see fit to write for Linux. This
> >> is a reason for keeping an XP box around.
>
> >>> Run much of the software seen in the large
> >>> computer stores?
> >> You mean the software like PhotoShop, AutoCad and MS Office that are
> >> only made for Windows? Of course not but there are comparable programs
> >> you can install from the Ubuntu repository that are FREE, with no need
> >> to go to a computer store.
>
> >> For your average home user, however, they have no need for these
> >> programs other than games.
>
> >> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Actually Photoshop (and the whole Adobe CS suite) and MS Office 2008
> > run just fine on my Mac. So do lots of other mainstream software
> > packages.
>
> Not free, though, by any stretch of the imagination.
>
> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You made the statement:
"You mean the software like PhotoShop, AutoCad and MS Office that are
only made for Windows? "

That is what I was replying to because you were wrong.

BTW, "comparable" programs don't cut it. In order to exchange
documents with others the application has to be 100% compliant.
 
Hadron wrote:

> It replaces windows for me[*SLAP*]


(snip remaining Quack B.S.)
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Stephan Rose wrote:

> Well my needs go far beyond "websites" and "email" and it replaces
> windows just fine for me too. So now what?

Now you get to witness the famous Quack defensive maneuver of lying,
spinning and twisting *your* words to fit *his* line of b.s.
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