Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

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Hadron wrote:
> caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> writes:
>
>> Bob Campbell wrote:
>>> "caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote in message
>>> news:47f6212e$0$22855$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>
>>>> Remember the Hunts? They tried to corner the silver market. Gov't
>>>> stopped them.
>>> No, they stopped themselves when they could no longer afford to keep
>>> buying silver at the horribly inflated prices they caused by trying
>>> to corner the market. The government knew nothing about it.
>>> They actually only held about 1/3 of the world's silver.
>>>
>>>> Now Ms has cornered the computer market
>>> Nonsense. The computer market is the most stunning example of
>>> freedom and capitalism the world has ever seen. What other market
>>> sees capabilities INCREASE and prices DECREASE every year?
>>>
>>> You have no idea what you are talking about here.
>>
>> Hunts did not stop themselves. The gov't stepped in and told them if
>> they didn't stop that they would stop them for what they were trying
>> to do was illegal.
>> You are not following the thread. There are those here that believe
>> that there is nothing wrong with MS controlling things. And if you
>> think they haven't you're the one acting like an Ostrich.
>> caver1
>
> You could always buy alternatives to MS. What nonsense are you talking
> about? Try advocating Linux instead of being a paranoid Loony and making
> things up in your quest to discredit MS.
>



Prove where I am wrong Hadron.
caver1
 
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Bob Campbell wrote:
>>
>>> "caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote in message
>>> news:47f6212e$0$22855$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Remember the Hunts? They tried to corner the silver market. Gov't
>>>> stopped them.
>>>
>>>
>>> No, they stopped themselves when they could no longer afford to keep
>>> buying silver at the horribly inflated prices they caused by trying
>>> to corner the market. The government knew nothing about it. They
>>> actually only held about 1/3 of the world's silver.
>>>
>>>> Now Ms has cornered the computer market
>>>
>>>
>>> Nonsense. The computer market is the most stunning example of
>>> freedom and capitalism the world has ever seen. What other market
>>> sees capabilities INCREASE and prices DECREASE every year?
>>
>>
>> Um, I can buy XP for cheaper than Vista from the same store. Oops. As
>> the price of oil continues to rise, you will see hardware price
>> increases as hardware has to be brought to market and that transport
>> is becoming more and more expensive due to Bush's stupid and illegal war.
>>
>>> You have no idea what you are talking about here.
>>
>>
>> No, you don't know what you're talking about. MS has a de facto
>> monopoly and should be prosecuted along with those hardware
>> manufacturers and OEM that collude with them.
>>
>> Alias
>
> You're even dumber than everyone thought you were or could possibly
> be...LOL!
> You're an idiot!
> Frank

The sad thing is that Frank thinks that lying about and insulting people
is a credible argument. You gotta feel sorry for the guy.

Alias
 
caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> writes:

> Hadron wrote:
>> caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> writes:
>>
>>> Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>> "caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:47f6212e$0$22855$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>
>>>>> Remember the Hunts? They tried to corner the silver market. Gov't
>>>>> stopped them.
>>>> No, they stopped themselves when they could no longer afford to keep
>>>> buying silver at the horribly inflated prices they caused by trying
>>>> to corner the market. The government knew nothing about it.
>>>> They actually only held about 1/3 of the world's silver.
>>>>
>>>>> Now Ms has cornered the computer market
>>>> Nonsense. The computer market is the most stunning example of
>>>> freedom and capitalism the world has ever seen. What other market
>>>> sees capabilities INCREASE and prices DECREASE every year?
>>>>
>>>> You have no idea what you are talking about here.
>>>
>>> Hunts did not stop themselves. The gov't stepped in and told them if
>>> they didn't stop that they would stop them for what they were trying
>>> to do was illegal.
>>> You are not following the thread. There are those here that believe
>>> that there is nothing wrong with MS controlling things. And if you
>>> think they haven't you're the one acting like an Ostrich.
>>> caver1
>>
>> You could always buy alternatives to MS. What nonsense are you talking
>> about? Try advocating Linux instead of being a paranoid Loony and making
>> things up in your quest to discredit MS.
>>
>
>
>
> Prove where I am wrong Hadron.
> caver1

I just did.

You could always by alternatives to MS.

--
XP is a flop and when users are still asking for W98 it shows that they
aren't all taken in with the MS hype.
comp.os.linux.advocacy - where they put the lunacy in advocacy
 
Alias, our delusional sheep-fukkin lying linux troll wrote:

....nothing...just his usual stupid lies that he is famous for...LOL!
Frank
 
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias, the lying sheep-fukker wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> The only "truism" you've ever posted is that you're an escaped
>>>> mexican mental patient and a fugitive from American justice hiding
>>>> out in spain.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I never posted that.
>>
>>
>> You're liar!
>
>
> Prove it. You can't because I am not Mexican.

Liar!

I am not wanted by any
> authorities and I've never been a mental patient.

Liar!

YOU made up that story
> in a lame attempt to discredit my persona because you are *incapable* of
> refuting my valid points.

Liar!
Thankfully the authorities will someday get your lying pathetic POS
loser ass!
Frank
 
caver1 wrote:

>
>
> Hunts did not stop themselves. The gov't stepped in and told them if
> they didn't stop that they would stop them for what they were trying to
> do was illegal.
> You are not following the thread. There are those here that believe that
> there is nothing wrong with MS controlling things. And if you think they
> haven't you're the one acting like an Ostrich.
> caver1

Bullsh*t! You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

"The Hunt Brothers and the Silver Market
Nelson Bunker and William Herbert Hunt were the heirs of oil tycoon H.L.
Hunt. The family was one of the richest in America at the time. In the
early 1970's the family decided to buy silver as a hedge against
inflation, and amassed it in great quantity. In the fall of 1979, the
Hunt Brothers, along with some wealthy Arabs formed a silver buying pool
and bought up 200 million ounces- the equivalent of half the world's
deliverable supply. The price of silver had moved from $2 per ounce in
1973 to $5 per ounce in early 1979 and then rocketed as high as $54 in
early 1980.

The officials at COMEX moved to check this cornering of the silver
market by raising margin requirements. The highly leveraged Hunt
Brothers were unable to meet their margin calls, and were forced to
sell. The price of silver fell dramatically on March 27th 1980 the
price fell 50% in one day, from $21.62 to $10.80. The Hunt Brothers were
forced to declare bankruptcy. Bache Group, which handled all of the
trades for the brothers, was financially ruined."

The US Govt had nothing to do with the Hunts, their rise and subsequent
fall, or the price of silver.
You're clueless!
Frank
 
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias, the lying sheep-fukker wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The only "truism" you've ever posted is that you're an escaped
>>>>> mexican mental patient and a fugitive from American justice hiding
>>>>> out in spain.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I never posted that.
>>>
>>>
>>> You're liar!
>>
>>
>> Prove it. You can't because I am not Mexican.
>
> Liar!

So, when you come to Europe to "get me", you'll be looking for a
Mexican? ROTFLMFAO!

Alias
 
Frank wrote:
> caver1 wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hunts did not stop themselves. The gov't stepped in and told them if
>> they didn't stop that they would stop them for what they were trying
>> to do was illegal.
>> You are not following the thread. There are those here that believe
>> that there is nothing wrong with MS controlling things. And if you
>> think they haven't you're the one acting like an Ostrich.
>> caver1
>
> Bullsh*t! You don't have any idea what you're talking about.
>
> "The Hunt Brothers and the Silver Market
> Nelson Bunker and William Herbert Hunt were the heirs of oil tycoon H.L.
> Hunt. The family was one of the richest in America at the time. In the
> early 1970's the family decided to buy silver as a hedge against
> inflation, and amassed it in great quantity. In the fall of 1979, the
> Hunt Brothers, along with some wealthy Arabs formed a silver buying pool
> and bought up 200 million ounces- the equivalent of half the world's
> deliverable supply. The price of silver had moved from $2 per ounce in
> 1973 to $5 per ounce in early 1979 and then rocketed as high as $54 in
> early 1980.
>
> The officials at COMEX moved to check this cornering of the silver
> market by raising margin requirements. The highly leveraged Hunt
> Brothers were unable to meet their margin calls, and were forced to
> sell. The price of silver fell dramatically on March 27th 1980 the
> price fell 50% in one day, from $21.62 to $10.80. The Hunt Brothers were
> forced to declare bankruptcy. Bache Group, which handled all of the
> trades for the brothers, was financially ruined."
>
> The US Govt had nothing to do with the Hunts, their rise and subsequent
> fall, or the price of silver.
> You're clueless!
> Frank

So, Frank, why did you invest in silver when it was at 48 bucks an ounce?

Alias
 
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>>> "caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:47f6212e$0$22855$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember the Hunts? They tried to corner the silver market. Gov't
>>>>> stopped them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, they stopped themselves when they could no longer afford to keep
>>>> buying silver at the horribly inflated prices they caused by trying
>>>> to corner the market. The government knew nothing about it.
>>>> They actually only held about 1/3 of the world's silver.
>>>>
>>>>> Now Ms has cornered the computer market
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nonsense. The computer market is the most stunning example of
>>>> freedom and capitalism the world has ever seen. What other market
>>>> sees capabilities INCREASE and prices DECREASE every year?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Um, I can buy XP for cheaper than Vista from the same store. Oops. As
>>> the price of oil continues to rise, you will see hardware price
>>> increases as hardware has to be brought to market and that transport
>>> is becoming more and more expensive due to Bush's stupid and illegal
>>> war.
>>>
>>>> You have no idea what you are talking about here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, you don't know what you're talking about. MS has a de facto
>>> monopoly and should be prosecuted along with those hardware
>>> manufacturers and OEM that collude with them.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> You're even dumber than everyone thought you were or could possibly
>> be...LOL!
>> You're an idiot!
>> Frank
>
>
> The sad thing is that Frank thinks that lying about and insulting people
> is a credible argument. You gotta feel sorry for the guy.
>
> Alias

The really sad part of your life is that you don't really have any life.
You're a known and admitted liar...it runs thru everything you do.
You're just a worthless POD vile excuse for a human being.
Don't worry little man, your day will come...LOL!
Frank
 
Alias wrote:


>
> So, Frank, why did you invest in silver when it was at 48 bucks an ounce?
>
> Alias

hehehe...sorry pal but I invested in gold when it was $127 an
ounce...LOL! Oh and I sold when it was $825 an ounce...nice!!!
Frank
 
Frank wrote:

> Don't worry little man, your day will come...LOL!
> Frank

Yeah, sure, the Frankenmonster will be looking for a Mexican. ROTLMFAO!

Alias
 
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>
>>
>> So, Frank, why did you invest in silver when it was at 48 bucks an ounce?
>>
>> Alias
>
> hehehe...sorry pal but I invested in gold when it was $127 an
> ounce...LOL! Oh and I sold when it was $825 an ounce...nice!!!
> Frank

IOW, what with the devaluation of the dollar, you lost money. Sorry to
hear that.

Alias
 
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias, the lying sheep-fukker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only "truism" you've ever posted is that you're an escaped
>>>>>> mexican mental patient and a fugitive from American justice hiding
>>>>>> out in spain.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I never posted that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're liar!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Prove it. You can't because I am not Mexican.
>>
>>
>> Liar!
>
>
> So, when you come to Europe to "get me", you'll be looking for a
> Mexican? ROTFLMFAO!
>
> Alias
Really?
Oops!
Thanks...LOL!
you're stupid...hahaha!
Frank
 
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> So, Frank, why did you invest in silver when it was at 48 bucks an
>>> ounce?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> hehehe...sorry pal but I invested in gold when it was $127 an
>> ounce...LOL! Oh and I sold when it was $825 an ounce...nice!!!
>> Frank
>
>
> IOW, what with the devaluation of the dollar, you lost money. Sorry to
> hear that.
>
> Alias

You dumb fukk...that was decades ago...you're really an idiot!
Frank
 
"caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote in message
news:47f6537c$0$24117$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Hunts did not stop themselves. The gov't stepped in and told them if they
> didn't stop that they would stop them for what they were trying to do was
> illegal.

No, they DID NOT. The government knew nothing about it. The Hunt's
simply couldn't afford to buy any more silver (to keep the price
artificially high) and everything collapsed. You are very wrong on this.

> You are not following the thread. There are those here that believe that
> there is nothing wrong with MS controlling things.

MS doesn't control anything except Windows.
 
"Josef Moellers" <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com> wrote in message
news:ft5ao2$5kn$1@nntp.fujitsu-siemens.com...
> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Josef Moellers" <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com> wrote in message
>> news:ft4lqj$nt7$1@nntp.fujitsu-siemens.com...
>
>
>>> No, we are upset because they prevent us from joining the game, because
>>> they use their power to bully the rest of the worls, because they use
>>> unfair methods.
>>
>> Which game? Do you want to write and *sell* and operating system or an
>> office suit?
>> If you do why do you use FOSS?
>
> No, I'd like to communicate with people using MS office suite (DOC, XLS
> DOCX). I'd like to view videos (WMV) and listen to sound (WMA) produced by
> people using Microsoft products. I'd like to access information from
> websites created by people using Microsoft products (ActiveX controls).
> I'd like my FOSS-based client to attach to Windows shares and use
> Windows-based printers (SMB). I'd like to attach a Windows-created
> filesystem on my brother's USB disk and access the contents (NTFS).
>
> *That* game I mean.

Well you can legally use the file formats that have been published and you
can use the interop functions that are defined.. you need to read them to
see if they enable you to do what you want, or you could pay someone to do
it for you.
 
"Linonut" <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote in message
news:0lpJj.29689$r76.5495@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
> * Josef Moellers peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> Linonut wrote:
>>> * dennis@home peremptorily fired off this memo:
>>>
>>>> However it should be the web site owners choice.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if lino (lino is an old fashioned oil based floor covering
>>>> BTW) nut
>>>> understands why he wrote a load of cr@p yet?
>>>
>>> I ask, again, what crap? The OP said nothing about restricting choice
>>> in any shape, form, or fashion, yet dennis-the-menace claimed he did,
>>> and I corrected him.
>>
>> To be fair: I did claim that whoever provided some information I'm
>> interested in should be limited in his/her choice to *not* use
>> formats/protocols that *I* cannot use.
>
> So what? Everyone can use open formats.
>
> That's kind of the point that goes right over dennis-the-menace's head.

OOXML is open, that goes over your head.

>
> He's even more for restrictions than you are, yet doesn't seem to
> realize it.

How? I am not the one trying to remove a product from the market, I like
choice, you just like one thing and don't want others to have a choice. You
probably do realise this but don't give a damn about other peoples choice.

>
>> This gets critical if I were running a business based solely on FOSS and
>> e.g. the tax authorities required me to send in my tax declaration in a
>> Microsoft file format which I cannot legally produce using FOSS. Or if
>> information I *must* have to run my business is available only using an
>> ActiveX component in my web browser.
>>
>> So: Personally, yes, I would like others to be restricted in their
>> choice to use file formats and protocols that are publicly available.
>> BTW I think this would benefit *all*, not just me (well, maybe some
>> would not benefit -).
>
> Restricting to open formats is no restriction.

So some company wants to add some features.. they change the file format and
its no longer the same as OO.. its still open but OO no longer works, shame.
Now another company does the same for a different feature.. OO no longer
works, shame. Being open is useless alone.
 
On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:27:51 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

> "Linonut" <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote in message
> news:0lpJj.29689$r76.5495@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>> * Josef Moellers peremptorily fired off this memo:
>>
>>> Linonut wrote:
>>>> * dennis@home peremptorily fired off this memo:
>>>>
>>>>> However it should be the web site owners choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if lino (lino is an old fashioned oil based floor covering
>>>>> BTW) nut
>>>>> understands why he wrote a load of cr@p yet?
>>>>
>>>> I ask, again, what crap? The OP said nothing about restricting
>>>> choice in any shape, form, or fashion, yet dennis-the-menace claimed
>>>> he did, and I corrected him.
>>>
>>> To be fair: I did claim that whoever provided some information I'm
>>> interested in should be limited in his/her choice to *not* use
>>> formats/protocols that *I* cannot use.
>>
>> So what? Everyone can use open formats.
>>
>> That's kind of the point that goes right over dennis-the-menace's head.
>
> OOXML is open, that goes over your head.

No, it isn't.

>
>
>> He's even more for restrictions than you are, yet doesn't seem to
>> realize it.
>
> How? I am not the one trying to remove a product from the market, I like
> choice, you just like one thing and don't want others to have a choice.
> You probably do realise this but don't give a damn about other peoples
> choice.
>
>
>>> This gets critical if I were running a business based solely on FOSS
>>> and e.g. the tax authorities required me to send in my tax declaration
>>> in a Microsoft file format which I cannot legally produce using FOSS.
>>> Or if information I *must* have to run my business is available only
>>> using an ActiveX component in my web browser.
>>>
>>> So: Personally, yes, I would like others to be restricted in their
>>> choice to use file formats and protocols that are publicly available.
>>> BTW I think this would benefit *all*, not just me (well, maybe some
>>> would not benefit -).
>>
>> Restricting to open formats is no restriction.
>
> So some company wants to add some features.. they change the file format
> and its no longer the same as OO.. its still open but OO no longer
> works, shame. Now another company does the same for a different
> feature.. OO no longer works, shame.

With a truly Open standard, the OO.o team could then make changes to its
software.

> Being open is useless alone.

No, you just don't want things to be open.

--
Rick
 
* Bob Campbell peremptorily fired off this memo:

> MS doesn't control anything except Windows.

And that's a lot.

--
Bill Gates is a monocle and a Persian cat away from being the villain in a
James Bond movie.
-- Dennis Miller (attributed)
 
* Josef Moellers peremptorily fired off this memo:

> Linonut wrote:
>>
>> So what? Everyone can use open formats.
>
> So why do people use patent-encumbered formats or non-documented formats?

1. They were there first (that doesn't quite explain Microsoft's WM
formats, though, so see the next one).

2. They're pushed by the vendor of the dominant desktop platform.

3. The costs are hidden from the average consumer.

4. The costs are smaller enough to equipment manufacturer's that they
don't see a need for a royalty-free format.

Those are my guesses, anyway.

>> Restricting to open formats is no restriction.
>
> Any restriction is a restriction. People will argue that their web site
> would be less attractive if they can't use ActiveX. They'll argue that
> their documents will look poor if they don't have several hunderd line
> styles to their disposition (I recall that someone from MS claimed that
> OOXML is superior to ODF because, among other things, they can support
> several hundred types of lines).

That's too bad, isn't it? Even if such claims are true (they aren't),
it seems somewhat unethical to required people to purchase a particular
vendor's products in order use the formats.

It's anti-business.

--
We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and
underestimate the change that will occur in the next ten. Don't let yourself
be lulled into inaction.
-- Bill Gates
 
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