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Charlie Tame wrote:
> Stephan Rose wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:30:47 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:
>>
>>> Tim Smith wrote:
>>>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>,
>>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the
>>>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an
>>>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power
>>>>> cord.
>>>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for
>>>> many.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get
>>> easier all the time.
>>
>> Matter of fact it's so easy that with the upcoming October Release, it
>> has hot plug monitor and driver support. So you can change monitors
>> all you want, drivers all you want, all on the fly without ever
>> rebooting or even seeing a command line.
>>
>> Now try to change a driver under Vista without rebooting.
>>
>
> Well I have to admit that a year or two back Linux was sadly lacking in
> friendliness, but it seems that the community has switched resources
> toward competing with "Windows" on this topic and preserving the
> existing security while MS has been forced to try and backwards engineer
> security into the "Easy" system. Actually UAC seems to me to be trying
> to "Emulate" the more GUI oriented Linux but for appearances only.
>
> I mean obviously a user with the PW can screw up Linux security if they
> want to, same applies to Vista, but WRT UAC I think there's more
> incentive to set about screwing it up.
>
> I take some of Dennis' points that Linux is not as secure as (Say) some
> military system, but hey, I'd expect military systems to be operated by
> trained people for specific purposes, not editing MP3s one minute and
> launching missiles the next, could give a whole new meaning to "All
> Shook Up" or "Bomb the Bass"...
>
> That said it is not Linux but the Unix philosophy or model on which it
> is based that is inherently better, and there is no blame attached to
> Microsoft for this per-se, much has changed since W95, however I do
> think maybe they would have done better to design a more isolated core
> than to continue this never ending "Integration" between Apps like IE
> and the OS itself.
>
> As for compatibility, well, I seen no real need for our server at work
> to look and feel like XP, but it does, as do all the rest of them.
> Having system updates brought in by a "Browser" for example seems
> counter intuitive when you think about it.
Definitely. I really like the whole package manager concept much better
for updates. I use an IBM thinkpad tablet at work, and I was thrilled
when I saw how easy it is to check for updates for drivers, IBM
software, etc. because they designed a package manager for Windows that
finds all the updates for you and you can just pick and choose what you
would like to update. I found it quite ironic when I learned that most
of the features on the IBM website for PC support were supported on IE only.
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> Stephan Rose wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:30:47 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:
>>
>>> Tim Smith wrote:
>>>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>,
>>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the
>>>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an
>>>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power
>>>>> cord.
>>>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for
>>>> many.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get
>>> easier all the time.
>>
>> Matter of fact it's so easy that with the upcoming October Release, it
>> has hot plug monitor and driver support. So you can change monitors
>> all you want, drivers all you want, all on the fly without ever
>> rebooting or even seeing a command line.
>>
>> Now try to change a driver under Vista without rebooting.
>>
>
> Well I have to admit that a year or two back Linux was sadly lacking in
> friendliness, but it seems that the community has switched resources
> toward competing with "Windows" on this topic and preserving the
> existing security while MS has been forced to try and backwards engineer
> security into the "Easy" system. Actually UAC seems to me to be trying
> to "Emulate" the more GUI oriented Linux but for appearances only.
>
> I mean obviously a user with the PW can screw up Linux security if they
> want to, same applies to Vista, but WRT UAC I think there's more
> incentive to set about screwing it up.
>
> I take some of Dennis' points that Linux is not as secure as (Say) some
> military system, but hey, I'd expect military systems to be operated by
> trained people for specific purposes, not editing MP3s one minute and
> launching missiles the next, could give a whole new meaning to "All
> Shook Up" or "Bomb the Bass"...
>
> That said it is not Linux but the Unix philosophy or model on which it
> is based that is inherently better, and there is no blame attached to
> Microsoft for this per-se, much has changed since W95, however I do
> think maybe they would have done better to design a more isolated core
> than to continue this never ending "Integration" between Apps like IE
> and the OS itself.
>
> As for compatibility, well, I seen no real need for our server at work
> to look and feel like XP, but it does, as do all the rest of them.
> Having system updates brought in by a "Browser" for example seems
> counter intuitive when you think about it.
Definitely. I really like the whole package manager concept much better
for updates. I use an IBM thinkpad tablet at work, and I was thrilled
when I saw how easy it is to check for updates for drivers, IBM
software, etc. because they designed a package manager for Windows that
finds all the updates for you and you can just pick and choose what you
would like to update. I found it quite ironic when I learned that most
of the features on the IBM website for PC support were supported on IE only.
--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html
"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett
