Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor

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Linux should support it.

Making it actually work is an entirely different kettle of fish.

There is a reason why Newegg and other manufacturers don't bother
certifying Linux to work
with their hardware and that is the market for Linux is so small it
isn't worth wasting the glue for the sticker on.

Linux: When your time has no value.


On Sep 22, 3:40 pm, "Judge Dredd" <go_a...@nospam.com> wrote:
> I'm thinking of buying this widescreen from NewEgg
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009101
>
> The monitor is advertised as being "Windows Vista Certified" so it will
> obviously work with Vista. But I'm concerned if it will work with linux
> because it doesn't say anything about being "Linux Certified."
>
> Will linux be able to automatically use the 1920x1200 resolution or will
> have need to tweak some config files to get the full resolution. I worry
> about editing config files becase I don't type too good and if I make a
> mistake I worry that I will have no video at all.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Scott -
>
> --
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<sully1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Linux should support it.
>
> Making it actually work is an entirely different kettle of fish.
>
> There is a reason why Newegg and other manufacturers don't bother
> certifying Linux to work
> with their hardware and that is the market for Linux is so small it
> isn't worth wasting the glue for the sticker on.
>
> Linux: When your time has no value.
>
>
> On Sep 22, 3:40 pm, "Judge Dredd" <go_a...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> I'm thinking of buying this widescreen from NewEgg
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009101
>>
>> The monitor is advertised as being "Windows Vista Certified" so it will
>> obviously work with Vista. But I'm concerned if it will work with linux
>> because it doesn't say anything about being "Linux Certified."
>>
>> Will linux be able to automatically use the 1920x1200 resolution or will
>> have need to tweak some config files to get the full resolution. I worry
>> about editing config files becase I don't type too good and if I make a
>> mistake I worry that I will have no video at all.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> - Scott -
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
>


"Linux: When your time has no value."
lol
 
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:39:04 -0400, "Seven" <Seven@linux.sux> wrote:


>"Linux: When your time has no value."
>lol

Laughing at your own crap. A sure sign of a mental midget. Frank does
it all the time too. Why don't you two monkeys share a banana.
 
"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:39:04 -0400, "Seven" <Seven@linux.sux> wrote:
>
>
>>"Linux: When your time has no value."
>>lol
>
> Laughing at your own crap. A sure sign of a mental midget. Frank does
> it all the time too. Why don't you two monkeys share a banana.
>


Even for a Preacher, you're overly sanctimonious.
You are special though.
You live in the only trailer park in the world where the median income is
$90,000.
Good thing the monkey earned $86,000 last year.
 
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:52:09 -0400, "Seven" <Seven@linux.sux> wrote:

>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>news:n7rcf3pv9cmuu0s168ism12s8slqm6214e@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:39:04 -0400, "Seven" <Seven@linux.sux> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Linux: When your time has no value."
>>>lol
>>
>> Laughing at your own crap. A sure sign of a mental midget. Frank does
>> it all the time too. Why don't you two monkeys share a banana.
>>
>
>
>Even for a Preacher, you're overly sanctimonious.
>You are special though.
>You live in the only trailer park in the world where the median income is
>$90,000.
>Good thing the monkey earned $86,000 last year.

You having another psychotic episode?
 
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 06:32:00 -0700, sully1999 wrote:

> Linux should support it.
>
> Making it actually work is an entirely different kettle of fish.

Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the video
card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an extremely
difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power cord.

>
> There is a reason why Newegg and other manufacturers don't bother
> certifying Linux to work
> with their hardware and that is the market for Linux is so small it
> isn't worth wasting the glue for the sticker on.
>
> Linux: When your time has no value.

Vista: When you should be getting reimbursed for your time using it.

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Adam,
Do you mind posting your age ?
If you do, we might understand your precious contributions !

"Adam Albright" wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:39:04 -0400, "Seven" <Seven@linux.sux> wrote:
>
>
> >"Linux: When your time has no value."
> >lol
>
> Laughing at your own crap. A sure sign of a mental midget. Frank does
> it all the time too. Why don't you two monkeys share a banana.
>
>
 
In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>,
Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the video
> card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an extremely
> difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power cord.

Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for
many.


--
--Tim Smith
 
Tim Smith wrote:
> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>,
> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the video
>> card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an extremely
>> difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power cord.
>
> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for
> many.
>
>


Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get
easier all the time.
 
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:30:47 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:

> Tim Smith wrote:
>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>,
>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the
>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an
>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power
>>> cord.
>>
>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for
>> many.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get
> easier all the time.

Matter of fact it's so easy that with the upcoming October Release, it
has hot plug monitor and driver support. So you can change monitors all
you want, drivers all you want, all on the fly without ever rebooting or
even seeing a command line.

Now try to change a driver under Vista without rebooting.

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Stephan Rose wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:30:47 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:
>
>> Tim Smith wrote:
>>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>,
>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the
>>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an
>>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power
>>>> cord.
>>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for
>>> many.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get
>> easier all the time.
>
> Matter of fact it's so easy that with the upcoming October Release, it
> has hot plug monitor and driver support. So you can change monitors all
> you want, drivers all you want, all on the fly without ever rebooting or
> even seeing a command line.
>
> Now try to change a driver under Vista without rebooting.
>

Well I have to admit that a year or two back Linux was sadly lacking in
friendliness, but it seems that the community has switched resources
toward competing with "Windows" on this topic and preserving the
existing security while MS has been forced to try and backwards engineer
security into the "Easy" system. Actually UAC seems to me to be trying
to "Emulate" the more GUI oriented Linux but for appearances only.

I mean obviously a user with the PW can screw up Linux security if they
want to, same applies to Vista, but WRT UAC I think there's more
incentive to set about screwing it up.

I take some of Dennis' points that Linux is not as secure as (Say) some
military system, but hey, I'd expect military systems to be operated by
trained people for specific purposes, not editing MP3s one minute and
launching missiles the next, could give a whole new meaning to "All
Shook Up" or "Bomb the Bass"...

That said it is not Linux but the Unix philosophy or model on which it
is based that is inherently better, and there is no blame attached to
Microsoft for this per-se, much has changed since W95, however I do
think maybe they would have done better to design a more isolated core
than to continue this never ending "Integration" between Apps like IE
and the OS itself.

As for compatibility, well, I seen no real need for our server at work
to look and feel like XP, but it does, as do all the rest of them.
Having system updates brought in by a "Browser" for example seems
counter intuitive when you think about it.
 
"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
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> Tim Smith wrote:
>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>,
>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the
>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an
>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power
>>> cord.
>>
>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for
>> many.
>>
>>
>
>
> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get
> easier all the time.

Yes Ubuntu sets 1280x768 on my widescreen monitor automatically.
Shame its a 1280 x 720 lcd panel.
Just as well I can change it but I wonder how many newbies would fail?
XP and Vista get it right BTW.
 
dennis@home wrote:
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:u5Zj%23gh$HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Tim Smith wrote:
>>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>,
>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the
>>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an
>>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power
>>>> cord.
>>>
>>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge
>>> for many.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things
>> get easier all the time.
>
> Yes Ubuntu sets 1280x768 on my widescreen monitor automatically.
> Shame its a 1280 x 720 lcd panel.
> Just as well I can change it but I wonder how many newbies would fail?
> XP and Vista get it right BTW.


Well maybe you should follow your own advice as offered to many here on
occasions and blame the manufacturer for using a non standard
resolution, or blame the user for not doing research into Ubuntu
requirements before installing. These kinds of comments work both ways :)
 
"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
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> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
>> news:u5Zj%23gh$HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Tim Smith wrote:
>>>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>,
>>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the
>>>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an
>>>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power
>>>>> cord.
>>>>
>>>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for
>>>> many.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get
>>> easier all the time.
>>
>> Yes Ubuntu sets 1280x768 on my widescreen monitor automatically.
>> Shame its a 1280 x 720 lcd panel.
>> Just as well I can change it but I wonder how many newbies would fail?
>> XP and Vista get it right BTW.
>
>
> Well maybe you should follow your own advice as offered to many here on
> occasions and blame the manufacturer for using a non standard resolution,
> or blame the user for not doing research into Ubuntu requirements before
> installing.


Don't be stupid 1280x720 is a standard format. It is one of the two HDTV
formats.
A user shouldn't really need to research to see if an OS supports a standard
display mode.
There are plenty of OSes that do support it out of the box including some
Linux distros.

> These kinds of comments work both ways :)

Only if someone has a distorted view of the world.
 
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:07:49 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:

> Stephan Rose wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:30:47 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:
>>
>>> Tim Smith wrote:
>>>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>,
>>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the
>>>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an
>>>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power
>>>>> cord.
>>>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge
>>>> for many.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things
>>> get easier all the time.
>>
>> Matter of fact it's so easy that with the upcoming October Release, it
>> has hot plug monitor and driver support. So you can change monitors all
>> you want, drivers all you want, all on the fly without ever rebooting
>> or even seeing a command line.
>>
>> Now try to change a driver under Vista without rebooting.
>>
>>
> Well I have to admit that a year or two back Linux was sadly lacking in
> friendliness, but it seems that the community has switched resources
> toward competing with "Windows" on this topic and preserving the
> existing security while MS has been forced to try and backwards engineer
> security into the "Easy" system. Actually UAC seems to me to be trying
> to "Emulate" the more GUI oriented Linux but for appearances only.
>
> I mean obviously a user with the PW can screw up Linux security if they
> want to, same applies to Vista, but WRT UAC I think there's more
> incentive to set about screwing it up.
>
> I take some of Dennis' points that Linux is not as secure as (Say) some
> military system, but hey, I'd expect military systems to be operated by
> trained people for specific purposes, not editing MP3s one minute and
> launching missiles the next, could give a whole new meaning to "All
> Shook Up" or "Bomb the Bass"...

Well nor does it need to be as secure as some military system. It's
installed on frigging home computers for crying out loud...I think the
whole security hype's going overboard.

Any system that is modifiable by the user is inherently only as secure as
the user using it. No amount of UAC popups or passwords can compete
against a user that willingly installs malware.


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"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
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> Any system that is modifiable by the user is inherently only as secure as
> the user using it. No amount of UAC popups or passwords can compete
> against a user that willingly installs malware.
>

Do you think you can explain that to alias?
He thinks linux is secure.
 
dennis@home wrote:
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:ejYHyYi$HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
>>> news:u5Zj%23gh$HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Tim Smith wrote:
>>>>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>,
>>>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of
>>>>>> the video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor
>>>>>> is an extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in
>>>>>> the power cord.
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge
>>>>> for many.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things
>>>> get easier all the time.
>>>
>>> Yes Ubuntu sets 1280x768 on my widescreen monitor automatically.
>>> Shame its a 1280 x 720 lcd panel.
>>> Just as well I can change it but I wonder how many newbies would fail?
>>> XP and Vista get it right BTW.
>>
>>
>> Well maybe you should follow your own advice as offered to many here
>> on occasions and blame the manufacturer for using a non standard
>> resolution, or blame the user for not doing research into Ubuntu
>> requirements before installing.
>
>
> Don't be stupid 1280x720 is a standard format. It is one of the two HDTV
> formats.



Where did I say it wasn't, read what I said again... you do read some of
the fanboy's allegations about users I take it? No, maybe not.




> A user shouldn't really need to research to see if an OS supports a
> standard display mode.



Then why are users constantly told here that many of their problems are
due to their lack of research?



> There are plenty of OSes that do support it out of the box including
> some Linux distros.


Please quote the part of my original post that suggests that Ubuntu is
perfect. I said it is easier than most and getting easier, you have
obviously decided to try and twist that around to build your straw man...



>> These kinds of comments work both ways :)
>
> Only if someone has a distorted view of the world.


Given your ability to distort a couple of sentences and reverse the
meaning of what was in them I should think that's more your problem than
mine...
 
dennis@home wrote:
>
> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
> news:EMidnXilcNHyf2vbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>> Any system that is modifiable by the user is inherently only as secure as
>> the user using it. No amount of UAC popups or passwords can compete
>> against a user that willingly installs malware.
>>
>
> Do you think you can explain that to alias?
> He thinks linux is secure.

No, I just think it's much MORE secure than Windows is all. Nothing is
infallible. With the slippery slope that Vista is taking Redmond, as a
computer user for business and pleasure, I guess I am a bit excited
about not having to put up with sliding down slopes.

--
Alias
To email me, remove shoes
 
Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net> writes:

> Tim Smith wrote:
>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>,
>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote:
>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the
>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an
>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power
>>> cord.
>>
>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge
>> for many.
>>
>>
>
>
> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things
> get easier all the time.


But a quick visit to Google reveals all sorts of issues. Look up getting
Beryl to work on Debian for example.

For some "it just works".

Fortunately the "advocates" here are not in charge of prioritising bug
fixes. If so, we would all be tweaking the MBR and xorg.conf from now
until eternity.


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