People just hate Linux

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Re: People hate Linux

"Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bill M. Yanaire wrote:
>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:gcg5j3$l2c$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> Bill M. Yanaire wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
>>>>>>> pre-installed
>>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the
>>>>>>> signs of
>>>>>>> things to come.
>>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay more
>>>>>> for a Mac..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>> Since when are you welcome here?
>>> I have just as much a right to post here as anyone else.
>>>
>>>> NOBODY wants to use Ubuntu
>>> A lie.
>>>
>>>> on their machines because Ubuntu is FREE and NBODODY wants it on their
>>>> desktop.
>>> Another lie.
>>>
>>
>> OK, maybe I stretched the truth a little bit. Very few people want
>> Ubuntu on the desktop.
>
> The times they are a-changing. Billy boy isn't, though.
>
>>
>>
>>>> Ubuntu is just a toy OS for geeks who have trouble with their social
>>>> skills.
>>> My, my, another lie.
>>>
>>>> To do real work you need a real operating system. Microsoft supplies
>>>> those Operating Systems.
>>> Yet another lie. How do you live with yourself?
>>
>> That statment is true. You just can't accept it.
>
> It's true if your "work" consists in playing video games.
>
>>
>>>> Imagine, people would rather PAY to use Microsoft products then to use
>>>> FREE OpenSores products.
>>> More lies.
>>>
>> You just can't seem to accept that Ubuntu has a very small following on
>> the desktop.
>
> I know it's small and never said it wasn't.
>
>> It really doesn't matter what each of us think. You just keep plugging
>> away trying to convert people, wasting your breath and picking fights
>> with everyone.
>
> You'd be surprised how many emails I get from interested parties.
>
>>
>>
>>>> That should tell you what you need to know about Ubuntu and the idiots
>>>> who try and preach it here in vista land.
>>> It tells me that you're a liar but that's nothing new.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> Your responses tell me you have no idea what users want. You have your
>> own agenda and you are failing.
>
> Keep telling yourself that and save your money for Windows 7.
>
> Alias
>>
All my Microsoft products are Free. I'll use the money for other stuff.
 
Re: People hate Linux

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:17:22 +0200, Alias <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

>Bill M. Yanaire wrote:
>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu pre-installed
>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the signs of
>>>>> things to come.
>>>>
>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay more for
>>>> a Mac..
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> Since when are you welcome here?
>
>I have just as much a right to post here as anyone else.
>
>> NOBODY wants to use Ubuntu
>
>A lie.
>
>> on their
>> machines because Ubuntu is FREE and NBODODY wants it on their desktop.
>
>Another lie.
>
>> Ubuntu is just a toy OS for geeks who have trouble with their social skills.
>
>My, my, another lie.
>
>>
>> To do real work you need a real operating system. Microsoft supplies those
>> Operating Systems.
>
>Yet another lie. How do you live with yourself?
>>
>> Imagine, people would rather PAY to use Microsoft products then to use FREE
>> OpenSores products.
>
>More lies.
>
>> That should tell you what you need to know about Ubuntu
>> and the idiots who try and preach it here in vista land.
>
>It tells me that you're a liar but that's nothing new.
>
>Alias

Technically they are just opinions. That doesn't make them right or wrong but
they are hardly lies. I see first hand the problems that users have with XP
and now Vista. I see this every day. They are almost always very trivial
things that take a minute or two to sort out. Now throw in a variant of Linux.
They will be even more lost. Without some massive change in public perception
and education they will never make a significant dent in home sales as Windows
software has. I bet if you took a clipboard in to your average high street and
asked random people if they had heard of Linux, even throwing in a range of
distros, and you will get blank looks. Ask them if they have heard of
Microsoft or Windows and I suspect your answers will be slightly different.
 
Re: People hate Linux

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:51:38 +0200, Alias <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com>
wrote:

>Bill M. Yanaire wrote:
<snip.
>>
>> Your responses tell me you have no idea what users want. You have your own
>> agenda and you are failing.
>
>Keep telling yourself that and save your money for Windows 7.
>
>Alias


What most Windows users want is fairly obvious: XP!
 
Re: People hate Linux

+Bob+ wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:51:38 +0200, Alias <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Bill M. Yanaire wrote:
>
> <snip.
>
>>>Your responses tell me you have no idea what users want. You have your own
>>>agenda and you are failing.
>>
>>Keep telling yourself that and save your money for Windows 7.
>>
>>Alias
>
>
>
> What most Windows users want is fairly obvious: XP!
Bullshit!
 
Re: People hate Linux

Ringmaster wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:01:53 -0700, "Bill M. Yanaire"
> <bill@yanaire.uk.net> wrote:
>
>
>>"Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>>
>>>Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>
>>>>"brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>>There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu pre-installed
>>>>>systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the signs of
>>>>>things to come.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay more for
>>>>a Mac..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>>
>>>Alias
>>
>>Since when are you welcome here?
>
>
> Who made you hall monitor? Damn, between you and Frank, it's hard to
> figure which one of you is the biggest baby, whiner and blowhard. This
> is a PUBLIC newsgroup. Everyone's opinion is welcome. You can't handle
> that, I suggest you muzzle yourself and you won't come across sounding
> as stupid as you always do. Ditto for Frank. Double ditto in fact.
>
>
>>Imagine, people would rather PAY to use Microsoft products then to use FREE
>>OpenSores products.
>
>
> You still trying to peddle that lame line of reasoning?
>
> The vast majority of people don pay for any OS, they simply use the
> one that came PREINSTALLED with their computer, which duh... happens
> to be Vista, maybe XP and rarely something else if they specify it.
>
> You are always so easy to defeat with logic and common sense I could
> do it in my sleep.

You are still drunk I see!
Get a life you idiot!
 
Re: Ringbastard, Frank's Ass Licker wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:19:59 -0700, Frank <fab@notspam.cmm> wrote:

>Ringbastard, Frank's Ass Licker wrote:
>
>Frank loves to keep proving he's a idiot.

All you keep proving is you have a potty mouth and you're a
pathological liar.
 
Re: People hate Linux

"Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bill M. Yanaire wrote:
>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:gcg7jb$6qj$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> Bill M. Yanaire wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:gcg5j3$l2c$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>> Bill M. Yanaire wrote:
>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>> pre-installed
>>>>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the
>>>>>>>>> signs of
>>>>>>>>> things to come.
>>>>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay
>>>>>>>> more for a Mac..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>> Since when are you welcome here?
>>>>> I have just as much a right to post here as anyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>>> NOBODY wants to use Ubuntu
>>>>> A lie.
>>>>>
>>>>>> on their machines because Ubuntu is FREE and NBODODY wants it on
>>>>>> their desktop.
>>>>> Another lie.
>>>>>
>>>> OK, maybe I stretched the truth a little bit. Very few people want
>>>> Ubuntu on the desktop.
>>> The times they are a-changing. Billy boy isn't, though.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Ubuntu is just a toy OS for geeks who have trouble with their social
>>>>>> skills.
>>>>> My, my, another lie.
>>>>>
>>>>>> To do real work you need a real operating system. Microsoft supplies
>>>>>> those Operating Systems.
>>>>> Yet another lie. How do you live with yourself?
>>>> That statment is true. You just can't accept it.
>>> It's true if your "work" consists in playing video games.
>>>
>>>>>> Imagine, people would rather PAY to use Microsoft products then to
>>>>>> use FREE OpenSores products.
>>>>> More lies.
>>>>>
>>>> You just can't seem to accept that Ubuntu has a very small following on
>>>> the desktop.
>>> I know it's small and never said it wasn't.
>>>
>>>> It really doesn't matter what each of us think. You just keep plugging
>>>> away trying to convert people, wasting your breath and picking fights
>>>> with everyone.
>>> You'd be surprised how many emails I get from interested parties.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> That should tell you what you need to know about Ubuntu and the
>>>>>> idiots who try and preach it here in vista land.
>>>>> It tells me that you're a liar but that's nothing new.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>> Your responses tell me you have no idea what users want. You have your
>>>> own agenda and you are failing.
>>> Keep telling yourself that and save your money for Windows 7.
>>>
>>> Alias
>> All my Microsoft products are Free. I'll use the money for other stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>
> No wonder you're sold on Microsoft products. Question is if you had to pay
> ... ?
>
> Alias

Then it might be a different story. I make my living with Microsoft
products, but if I had to pay, then I would pay. When I retire I might
ditch Microsoft but thats a ways off.
 
Re: People hate Linux

+Bob+ wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:51:38 +0200, Alias <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Bill M. Yanaire wrote:
> <snip.
>>> Your responses tell me you have no idea what users want. You have your own
>>> agenda and you are failing.
>> Keep telling yourself that and save your money for Windows 7.
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> What most Windows users want is fairly obvious: XP!

I have both XP and Ubuntu on this and other machines.

Alias
 
Re: People hate Linux

"Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu pre-installed
>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the signs of
>>> things to come.
>>
>>
>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay more for
>> a Mac..
>>
>>
>
> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>
> Alias


Usage figures say it all.


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Re: People hate Linux

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu pre-installed
>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the
>>>> signs of
>>>> things to come.
>>>
>>>
>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay more
>>> for a Mac..
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> Usage figures say it all.
>
>

Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't hear
much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a few years
ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream media. Now you do.
You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine easily back then. Now you
can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a trend, too, down the slippery slope
of holding your paying customers in total disdain.

Alias
 
Re: People hate Linux

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:19:02 -0500, TruthSquad@hope.com wrote:

>On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:51:25 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"
><mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote:
>
>>"Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu pre-installed
>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the signs of
>>>>> things to come.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay more for
>>>> a Mac..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>>Usage figures say it all.
>
>Still spreading bullshit?
>
>The main reason more people "use' Windows is it comes preinstalled on
>most boxes you buy including all the popular brands. In other words
>the end user isn't asked what OS he would prefer and doesn't decide,
>the decision has already been made for him. Since most users of PC's
>don't want to reinstall a new OS and would be rather pointless once
>you already paid for what been already preinstalled, Windows remains
>on top. If Windows had to compete fairly it likely wouldn't be on top
>surely not by as wide a margin.

As long as the gaming industry for PCs continues to drive hardware development
I don't see that situation changing any time soon. I've never worked for a
company that hasn't used Windows for its OS, either desktop or server. Well,
that's not quite true. About 10 to 12 years ago for an old company we had a
Novell mirror server installed. But certainly nothing since.
 
Re: People hate Linux

Alias wrote:

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>
>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>>
>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>
>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
>>>>> pre-installed
>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the
>>>>> signs of
>>>>> things to come.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay more
>>>> for a Mac..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>>
>> Usage figures say it all.
>>
>>
>
> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't hear
> much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a few years
> ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream media. Now you do.
> You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine easily back then. Now you
> can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a trend, too, down the slippery slope
> of holding your paying customers in total disdain.
>
Nice dance...now look at and try and deny the real figures.
urbuttoo is a dismal failure by any accounting.
Just like you are.
 
Re: People hate Linux

"Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:gcgtrn$cr6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
>>>>> pre-installed
>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the signs
>>>>> of
>>>>> things to come.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay more
>>>> for a Mac..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> Usage figures say it all.
>>
>>
>
> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't hear much
> about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a few years ago. You
> didn't see much about it in the mainstream media. Now you do. You couldn't
> get a preinstalled Linux machine easily back then. Now you can. Ever hear
> of trends? MS is on a trend, too, down the slippery slope of holding your
> paying customers in total disdain.
>
> Alias


To the point where they would rather pay more for a Mac.

It doesn't say much for Linux that people would rather pay more than a Vista
box costs than go for the FREE option, does it.

Consumers want a polished product.. take note.. MS is not finished yet, not
hardly..


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>
> 'Carey Frisch [MVP Wrote:

>> 108113']"Real World" experience shows that new notebooks preinstalled
>> with Linux are returned
>> four times more often than those with Windows. This would indicate
>> what others
>> have already noted, many consumers pick up the cheaper systems and then
>> realize that
>> the Linux system is not what they are used to so they return it.


Probably because Linux notebook manufacturers sometimes forget to install drivers?
 
Re: People hate Linux

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>
>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>>>
>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
>>>>>> pre-installed
>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the
>>>>>> signs of
>>>>>> things to come.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay
>>>>> more for a Mac..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Usage figures say it all.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't hear
>> much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a few years
>> ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream media. Now you do.
>> You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine easily back then. Now
>> you can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a trend, too, down the slippery
>> slope of holding your paying customers in total disdain.
>>
> Nice dance...now look at and try and deny the real figures.
> urbuttoo is a dismal failure by any accounting.
> Just like you are.
>

Can't address content so you make things up and spew the usual insults.
You're a one trick pony, Frank.

Alias
 
Re: People hate Linux

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gcgtrn$cr6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
>>>>>> pre-installed
>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the
>>>>>> signs of
>>>>>> things to come.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay
>>>>> more for a Mac..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> Usage figures say it all.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't hear
>> much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a few years
>> ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream media. Now you do.
>> You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine easily back then. Now
>> you can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a trend, too, down the slippery
>> slope of holding your paying customers in total disdain.
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> To the point where they would rather pay more for a Mac.
>
> It doesn't say much for Linux that people would rather pay more than a
> Vista box costs than go for the FREE option, does it.
>
> Consumers want a polished product.. take note.. MS is not finished yet,
> not hardly..
>
>

So you, too, have a reading comprehension problem. Again, no one was
talking about Linux three years ago and now everyone is. MS is not
finished, nor did I say it was. I wrote, and I quote, "MS is on a trend,
too, down the slippery slope of holding your paying customers in total
disdain." This means they are on their way out, not out already. Rome
didn't fall in one day either.

If what you say about a polished product is true, Linux will be the
dominant OS quite shortly being as it isn't vulnerable to malware or
suffer from BSODs like Windows does.

I have been installing Ubuntu now on computers for almost two years.
Those who insisted on keeping Windows have been back numerous times
because they need me to can clean up their machines that are constantly
infested with malware. Those who have Ubuntu have not had that need.

Alias
 
Re: People hate Linux

"Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:gci4tn$dtm$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:gcgtrn$cr6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
>>>>>>> pre-installed
>>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the
>>>>>>> signs of
>>>>>>> things to come.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay more
>>>>>> for a Mac..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Usage figures say it all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't hear
>>> much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a few years
>>> ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream media. Now you do.
>>> You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine easily back then. Now you
>>> can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a trend, too, down the slippery slope
>>> of holding your paying customers in total disdain.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> To the point where they would rather pay more for a Mac.
>>
>> It doesn't say much for Linux that people would rather pay more than a
>> Vista box costs than go for the FREE option, does it.
>>
>> Consumers want a polished product.. take note.. MS is not finished yet,
>> not hardly..
>>
>>
>
> So you, too, have a reading comprehension problem. Again, no one was
> talking about Linux three years ago and now everyone is. MS is not
> finished, nor did I say it was. I wrote, and I quote, "MS is on a trend,
> too, down the slippery slope of holding your paying customers in total
> disdain." This means they are on their way out, not out already. Rome
> didn't fall in one day either.
>
> If what you say about a polished product is true, Linux will be the
> dominant OS quite shortly being as it isn't vulnerable to malware or
> suffer from BSODs like Windows does.
>
> I have been installing Ubuntu now on computers for almost two years. Those
> who insisted on keeping Windows have been back numerous times because they
> need me to can clean up their machines that are constantly infested with
> malware. Those who have Ubuntu have not had that need.
>
> Alias


Nothing wrong with my comprehension that Mac is outstripping Linux even
though Mac is more expensive than a Vista PC.. this puts Linux in LAST place
still, even though it is FREE..

Last place, Alias, despite all of your efforts here..

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Re: People hate Linux

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gci4tn$dtm$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:gcgtrn$cr6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
>>>>>>>> pre-installed
>>>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the
>>>>>>>> signs of
>>>>>>>> things to come.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay
>>>>>>> more for a Mac..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Usage figures say it all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't hear
>>>> much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a few years
>>>> ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream media. Now you
>>>> do. You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine easily back then.
>>>> Now you can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a trend, too, down the
>>>> slippery slope of holding your paying customers in total disdain.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> To the point where they would rather pay more for a Mac.
>>>
>>> It doesn't say much for Linux that people would rather pay more than
>>> a Vista box costs than go for the FREE option, does it.
>>>
>>> Consumers want a polished product.. take note.. MS is not finished
>>> yet, not hardly..
>>>
>>>
>>
>> So you, too, have a reading comprehension problem. Again, no one was
>> talking about Linux three years ago and now everyone is. MS is not
>> finished, nor did I say it was. I wrote, and I quote, "MS is on a
>> trend, too, down the slippery slope of holding your paying customers
>> in total disdain." This means they are on their way out, not out
>> already. Rome didn't fall in one day either.
>>
>> If what you say about a polished product is true, Linux will be the
>> dominant OS quite shortly being as it isn't vulnerable to malware or
>> suffer from BSODs like Windows does.
>>
>> I have been installing Ubuntu now on computers for almost two years.
>> Those who insisted on keeping Windows have been back numerous times
>> because they need me to can clean up their machines that are
>> constantly infested with malware. Those who have Ubuntu have not had
>> that need.
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> Nothing wrong with my comprehension that Mac is outstripping Linux even
> though Mac is more expensive than a Vista PC.. this puts Linux in LAST
> place still, even though it is FREE..
>
> Last place, Alias, despite all of your efforts here..
>

Your reading comprehension is totally skewered by your ill informed
bias. A trend doesn't mean first place. People were talking about Macs
back in 84, it made the mainstream media and movies were even made about
it. So, naturally, it has grown some. Linux is just now getting the
mainstream media attention. Do you get it yet?

Alias
 
Re: People hate Linux

"Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:gci6r9$qp4$1@aioe.org...
> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:gci4tn$dtm$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:gcgtrn$cr6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>> pre-installed
>>>>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the
>>>>>>>>> signs of
>>>>>>>>> things to come.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay
>>>>>>>> more for a Mac..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Usage figures say it all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't hear
>>>>> much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a few years
>>>>> ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream media. Now you do.
>>>>> You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine easily back then. Now
>>>>> you can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a trend, too, down the slippery
>>>>> slope of holding your paying customers in total disdain.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To the point where they would rather pay more for a Mac.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't say much for Linux that people would rather pay more than a
>>>> Vista box costs than go for the FREE option, does it.
>>>>
>>>> Consumers want a polished product.. take note.. MS is not finished yet,
>>>> not hardly..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> So you, too, have a reading comprehension problem. Again, no one was
>>> talking about Linux three years ago and now everyone is. MS is not
>>> finished, nor did I say it was. I wrote, and I quote, "MS is on a trend,
>>> too, down the slippery slope of holding your paying customers in total
>>> disdain." This means they are on their way out, not out already. Rome
>>> didn't fall in one day either.
>>>
>>> If what you say about a polished product is true, Linux will be the
>>> dominant OS quite shortly being as it isn't vulnerable to malware or
>>> suffer from BSODs like Windows does.
>>>
>>> I have been installing Ubuntu now on computers for almost two years.
>>> Those who insisted on keeping Windows have been back numerous times
>>> because they need me to can clean up their machines that are constantly
>>> infested with malware. Those who have Ubuntu have not had that need.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> Nothing wrong with my comprehension that Mac is outstripping Linux even
>> though Mac is more expensive than a Vista PC.. this puts Linux in LAST
>> place still, even though it is FREE..
>>
>> Last place, Alias, despite all of your efforts here..
>>
>
> Your reading comprehension is totally skewered by your ill informed bias.
> A trend doesn't mean first place. People were talking about Macs back in
> 84, it made the mainstream media and movies were even made about it. So,
> naturally, it has grown some. Linux is just now getting the mainstream
> media attention. Do you get it yet?
>
> Alias

Ill informed bias? Apple is ****-a-hoop re their increased Mac sales. Don't
blame me for people wanting something decent even though they have to pay
more for it. I don't publish the sales figures.

Let people make their own choice instead of bludgeoning them with XX days to
go before yet another 'more of the same' Ubuntu version.

Your own personal campaign is doing nothing for the sales and use of Linux
other than getting people to look at Macs.

It is a three horse race, and Linux for desktops is the one running on aging
wooden legs.

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Re: People hate Linux

On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 07:38:02 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"
<mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote:

>
>Nothing wrong with my comprehension that Mac is outstripping Linux even
>though Mac is more expensive than a Vista PC.. this puts Linux in LAST place
>still, even though it is FREE..
>
>Last place, Alias, despite all of your efforts here..

I'm no fan of LInux on the desktop but there are two factors to
consider here. First, Macs have a very serious, very expensive
marketing effort behind them. That's the ONLY reason Apple has gone
belly up. It's worth noting that Linux has as far as it has with no
marketing at all.

Secondly, Linux has taken over the web server market - a very
important market - despite massive marketing and pressure from MS to
stop it. Facts are facts: Linux is a solid product that has acquired
its position simply based on an ability to do the job required.

MS retains pre-existing market position only based on sheer size and
deep pockets: if a smaller company had come out with Vista (without
the ability to force vendors to sell its latest OS), they would be
filing for bankruptcy.

Vista is a flop and reflects MS's inability to produce quality
software, to listen to its real users, or to simply act in a
reasonable manner towards its customers.
 
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