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I keep seeing all these Linux posts, but I am curious... Once you get
Linux installed, what can you do with it?

All of the software I use to make a living is for Windows and almost
NONE of it will run in the Windows emulator of Linux.

What exactly is the point of promoting Linux for anything other than
server use if you can't actually do anything on it unless you're a geek?
 
Dave wrote:
> I keep seeing all these Linux posts, but I am curious... Once you get
> Linux installed, what can you do with it?
>
> All of the software I use to make a living is for Windows and almost
> NONE of it will run in the Windows emulator of Linux.
>
> What exactly is the point of promoting Linux for anything other than
> server use if you can't actually do anything on it unless you're a geek?

OK, I'll bite, to which programs are you referring that you can't use in
Linux and which distro are you talking about?

This is what I can do with Ubuntu Linux:

Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.

and much more!

What I can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

Alias
 
What can you do with Linux?

"Dave" <dave@noway.dude> wrote in message
news:MPG.233aef312dbd56e4989691@proxy.news.easynews.com...
>I keep seeing all these Linux posts, but I am curious... Once you get
> Linux installed, what can you do with it?
>
> All of the software I use to make a living is for Windows and almost
> NONE of it will run in the Windows emulator of Linux.
>
> What exactly is the point of promoting Linux for anything other than
> server use if you can't actually do anything on it unless you're a geek?

You can write a simple one page letter, calculate a few numbers and browse
the internet with Linux/Ubuntu. Once most figure out how crippled Ubuntu is
they remove it from their machines and install a real OS like Windows.
 
DreamWorks wins an award for its innovative use of Linux

shit you are so ignorant!!!

Linux is behind some of the greatest animated movies

read here you moron

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9865829-16.html



Linux (and principally Red Hat Enterprise Linux) has become the primary
production platform for the animation industry, largely due to the
engineering efforts of DreamWorks. Behind that effort sits Ed Leonard, chief
technology officer at DreamWorks, who has been recognized for his work with
an Annie Award for "promoting the Linux open system for animation in
animation studios and gaming software development."

I first met Ed back in 2004 while still at Novell. I was trying to dislodge
Red Hat within DreamWorks. Needless to say, I failed. :-)

Ed was a director back then. He's since become DreamWorks' CTO, largely due
to the innovative work he has done with HP and Red Hat to make Linux a star
in the animation industry. In turn, this work has made Linux better for all
of us, wherever we sit in the computing industry.

I, too, want to thank Ed Leonard for his contributions to Linux. Ed
demonstrates the power and value of open-source software. He doesn't have to
write code to have a tremendous impact on Linux and open source. Sometimes
it's how customers choose to deploy open source and drive its creators to
improve upon it that make the best contributions of all.


"Bill ©¿©¬ Yanaire" <Bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave" <dave@noway.dude> wrote in message
> news:MPG.233aef312dbd56e4989691@proxy.news.easynews.com...
>>I keep seeing all these Linux posts, but I am curious... Once you get
>> Linux installed, what can you do with it?
>>
>> All of the software I use to make a living is for Windows and almost
>> NONE of it will run in the Windows emulator of Linux.
>>
>> What exactly is the point of promoting Linux for anything other than
>> server use if you can't actually do anything on it unless you're a geek?
>
> You can write a simple one page letter, calculate a few numbers and browse
> the internet with Linux/Ubuntu. Once most figure out how crippled Ubuntu
> is they remove it from their machines and install a real OS like Windows.
>
>
>
 
In article <MPG.233aef312dbd56e4989691@proxy.news.easynews.com>,
Dave <dave@noway.dude> wrote:
>
>What exactly is the point of promoting Linux for anything other than
>server use if you can't actually do anything on it unless you're a geek?

As far as desktop stuff goes it's perfectly fine for the same
kind of general network usage most Windows boxes get used for, mail, news,
ebay, whatever. It's also useful if you want to BECOME a geek. As in, say,
learn programming, or learn about hardware, because the environment is much
more accessible.

IMHO that's the real advantage of the open source platform. Because
it's accessible and because you can do cool stuff if you learn how people
are enabled AND motivated to ehnance their knowledge and control. As opposed
to the Windows "sit back and let uncle bill take care of you" model.
 
Re: What can you do with Linux?

In article <5JbAk.461$pr6.363@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com>,
Bill ©¿©¬ Yanaire <Bill@yanaire.com> wrote:
>
>You can write a simple one page letter,

lol. I just finished a 112 page proposal using openoffice. And vi.

>calculate a few numbers

Ummmm, you're aware of what OS most supercomputing clusters run, right?
The ones that do massively parallel numeric computation?


Pfffft. "a real OS like windows"... How about a real OS like...
Solaris? Real operating systems don't require you to reboot to install
a word processor.

This holy war stuff really bothers me. Operating systems are
like tools. Asking why you would want Linux in your toolkit is like asking
why you would need metric wrenches. Does having a metric set mean you're
being disloyal to the SAE or that you're not smart enough to use a 5/8 socket?
 
Dave wrote:
> I keep seeing all these Linux posts, but I am curious... Once you get
> Linux installed, what can you do with it?
>
> All of the software I use to make a living is for Windows and almost
> NONE of it will run in the Windows emulator of Linux.
>
> What exactly is the point of promoting Linux for anything other than
> server use if you can't actually do anything on it unless you're a geek?

If you make your bread and butter by using MS solutions, then why would
you worry about Linux?

You have MS users coming to the NG, and then you have the Linux pimps,
pimping Linux.

It is what it is.
 
Re: What can you do with Linux?

You are talking a language that yanair does not understand. It contains
LOGIC and FACTS!


"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
news:garje4$o55$1@reader1.panix.com...
> In article <5JbAk.461$pr6.363@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> Bill ©¿©¬ Yanaire <Bill@yanaire.com> wrote:
>>
>>You can write a simple one page letter,
>
> lol. I just finished a 112 page proposal using openoffice. And vi.
>
>>calculate a few numbers
>
> Ummmm, you're aware of what OS most supercomputing clusters run, right?
> The ones that do massively parallel numeric computation?
>
>
> Pfffft. "a real OS like windows"... How about a real OS like...
> Solaris? Real operating systems don't require you to reboot to install
> a word processor.
>
> This holy war stuff really bothers me. Operating systems are
> like tools. Asking why you would want Linux in your toolkit is like
> asking
> why you would need metric wrenches. Does having a metric set mean you're
> being disloyal to the SAE or that you're not smart enough to use a 5/8
> socket?
>
 
Re: What can you do with Linux?

the wharf rat wrote:
> In article <5JbAk.461$pr6.363@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> Bill ©¿©¬ Yanaire <Bill@yanaire.com> wrote:
>> You can write a simple one page letter,
>
> lol. I just finished a 112 page proposal using openoffice. And vi.
>
>> calculate a few numbers
>
> Ummmm, you're aware of what OS most supercomputing clusters run, right?
> The ones that do massively parallel numeric computation?

Home users don't need it.
>
>
> Pfffft. "a real OS like windows"... How about a real OS like...
> Solaris? Real operating systems don't require you to reboot to install
> a word processor.

So, a home user is going to be running Solaris you moron?
>
> This holy war stuff really bothers me. Operating systems are
> like tools. Asking why you would want Linux in your toolkit is like asking
> why you would need metric wrenches. Does having a metric set mean you're
> being disloyal to the SAE or that you're not smart enough to use a 5/8 socket?
>

Stupid. I like the way you chase the Linux bone in a MS NG.
 
Frank's Ass Licker ringbastard wrote...

Ringmaster, Frank's Ass Licker wrote:
--------------------------------------------

It amazing how you can still type with your PIGGY head shove all the way
up your fat stupid ass.
 
Re: What can you do with Linux?

Bill ©¿©¬ Yanaire wrote:
> "Dave" <dave@noway.dude> wrote in message
> news:MPG.233aef312dbd56e4989691@proxy.news.easynews.com...
>> I keep seeing all these Linux posts, but I am curious... Once you get
>> Linux installed, what can you do with it?
>>
>> All of the software I use to make a living is for Windows and almost
>> NONE of it will run in the Windows emulator of Linux.
>>
>> What exactly is the point of promoting Linux for anything other than
>> server use if you can't actually do anything on it unless you're a geek?
>
> You can write a simple one page letter, calculate a few numbers and browse
> the internet with Linux/Ubuntu. Once most figure out how crippled Ubuntu is
> they remove it from their machines and install a real OS like Windows.
>
>
>

Er, that's about all Windoze does out of the box. Then you have to pay a
shitload more money to buy some applications. Once most people figure
out how stupidly expensive Windoze is they remove it from their machines
and install a real OS with loads of free applications for everyday tasks
like Linux.

Cheers

Ian
 
Re: What can you do with Linux?

In article <OOQjCjPGJHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
Paul Montgumdrop <Paul@Montgumdrop.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ummmm, you're aware of what OS most supercomputing clusters run, right?
>
>Home users don't need it.

EVERYBODY needs a massively parallel supercomputer in their living
room. If more people understood that we'd have found those damn SETI
aliens by now.
 
In article <OiQM0cPGJHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
Paul Montgumdrop <Paul@Montgumdrop.com> wrote:
>
>If you make your bread and butter by using MS solutions, then why would
>you worry about Linux?
>

Good point. That's exactly the strategy that General Motors used
in its battle against Toyota. You've really got a mind for business, dude.
 
Re: What can you do with Linux?

the wharf rat wrote:
> In article <OOQjCjPGJHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
> Paul Montgumdrop <Paul@Montgumdrop.com> wrote:
>>> Ummmm, you're aware of what OS most supercomputing clusters run, right?
>> Home users don't need it.
>
> EVERYBODY needs a massively parallel supercomputer in their living
> room. If more people understood that we'd have found those damn SETI
> aliens by now.
>


Well, that was what the opening salvo was about. What can that
particular user do with Linux? Apparently, there is nothing he can do
with Linux. And then you took it past the Moon as usual, with Linux
pimping, and your own little spin.

Silliness, your usual insanity pops to the surface again.
 
the wharf rat wrote:
> In article <OiQM0cPGJHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
> Paul Montgumdrop <Paul@Montgumdrop.com> wrote:
>> If you make your bread and butter by using MS solutions, then why would
>> you worry about Linux?
>>
>
> Good point. That's exactly the strategy that General Motors used
> in its battle against Toyota. You've really got a mind for business, dude.
>

Stupid! The last time I looked, GM was still kicking and people make a
living at GM. Oh wait, it has nothing to do with outer space, and that's
why it doesn't make any sense to you.
 
Re: What can you do with Linux?

In article <uaTYlVRGJHA.4996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
Paul Montgumdrop <Paul@Montgumdrop.com> wrote:
>
>Apparently, there is nothing he can do with Linux.

Hey, aren't you listening? I just explained that you can post
to Usenet, write long boring proposals, and build your very own super-
computer! Out of all that posting to Usenet is the only one that takes
a computer genius because it's apparently very very hard to edit your
included text.

Even in a Real(tm) operating system.


>And then you took it past the Moon as usual

I guess I ate too many free spaghetti dinners at the Moonie church
when I was living in Boulder Colorado. It was actually pretty good
spaghetti and it WAS free but you couldn't leave until after they had the
part where they tried to get you to be a Moonie too just like them. So after
all that free Moonie spaghetti it's no wonder if you catch me mooning you
every once in a while.

>
>Silliness, your usual insanity pops to the surface again.

You may be right. I may be crazy. But it just may be a lunatic
you're looking for!
 
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:36:15 -0400, Paul Montgumdrop
<Paul@Montgumdrop.com> wrote:

>the wharf rat wrote:
>> In article <OiQM0cPGJHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>> Paul Montgumdrop <Paul@Montgumdrop.com> wrote:
>>> If you make your bread and butter by using MS solutions, then why would
>>> you worry about Linux?
>>>
>>
>> Good point. That's exactly the strategy that General Motors used
>> in its battle against Toyota. You've really got a mind for business, dude.
>>
>
>Stupid! The last time I looked, GM was still kicking and people make a
>living at GM. Oh wait, it has nothing to do with outer space, and that's
>why it doesn't make any sense to you.

Apparently since you're just another newsgroup jackass you have no
idea WHAT you're looking at or talking about. GM that just celebrated
it's 100 year anniversary saw it's stock price at a 33 year low.
Meanwhile the US auto industry (mostly GM and Ford) are begging for
their own $25 billion bailout.

Gm isn't kicking, it's crawling on it's knees to Uncle Sam for a
taxpayer sponsored windfall to save them from possible bankruptcy.
 
Re: DreamWorks wins an award for its innovative use of Linux

In article <gRfAk.437$eb4.182@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com>,
Theory of Nothing <Theory@nothing.net> wrote:
>
>All they can do is very simple computing. Nothing more. It is a FACT.

You're confusing me. One minute you say it's so complicated that
only computer geniuses can use it and the next you're telling us all it
can do is run a line editor and beep.

Today I needed to prototype something for a customer so I built
a trivial web cluster out of three linux boxes and threw Oracle on a fourth.
It may sound simple to you but it took me a couple of hours and I've done
it before. I could have used just one box but Xen gives me headaches.

And just like the Moonie spaghetti it was free, which allows me
to stay competitive by reducing my overhead from thousands of dollars for
software licensing to ummm 0.
 
Re: DreamWorks wins an award for its innovative use of Linux

"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
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> In article <gRfAk.437$eb4.182@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> Theory of Nothing <Theory@nothing.net> wrote:
>>
>>All they can do is very simple computing. Nothing more. It is a FACT.
>
> You're confusing me. One minute you say it's so complicated that
> only computer geniuses can use it and the next you're telling us all it
> can do is run a line editor and beep.

Maybe you are confusing me with my brother, 'Theory of Everything'. I am
'Theory of Nothing'.


>
> Today I needed to prototype something for a customer so I built
> a trivial web cluster out of three linux boxes and threw Oracle on a
> fourth.
> It may sound simple to you but it took me a couple of hours and I've done
> it before. I could have used just one box but Xen gives me headaches.
>
> And just like the Moonie spaghetti it was free, which allows me
> to stay competitive by reducing my overhead from thousands of dollars for
> software licensing to ummm 0.
>
>
 
Re: What can you do with Linux?

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:02:39 +0000 (UTC), wrat@panix.com (the wharf
rat) wrote:


>I guess I ate too many free spaghetti dinners at the Moonie church
>when I was living in Boulder Colorado.

Be VERY suspect if any religious group serves KoolAid.
 
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