Windows 2000 copy large file to USB drive hangs

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Can I clarify this with you ? What I need to download is the chipset
software, right ? Thanks...

On Mar 16, 11:39 pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
wrote:
> From: "flahmeshess" <dingdongdingd...@yahoo.com>
>
> | My chip is from Intel but the drivers are Microsoft. Any problems
> | there ?
> |
>
> Get the drivers from Intel.
>
> --
> Davehttp://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV -http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
 
I downloaded the chipset software and installed it. Then I went to
the device manager and changed all the USB drivers to Intel.
Rebooted. Still hang. I don't know if I've done the driver update
correctly.

On Mar 16, 11:39 pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
wrote:
> From: "flahmeshess" <dingdongdingd...@yahoo.com>
>
> | My chip is from Intel but the drivers are Microsoft. Any problems
> | there ?
> |
>
> Get the drivers from Intel.
>
> --
> Davehttp://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV -http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
 
From: "flahmeshess" <dingdongdingding@yahoo.com>

| I downloaded the chipset software and installed it. Then I went to
| the device manager and changed all the USB drivers to Intel.
| Rebooted. Still hang. I don't know if I've done the driver update
| correctly.
|

If it was done corerectly then there would be no yellow "!" or "?" [ exclamation or
question ] marks in Device Manager.

If the copy process is still problematic after that, then it isn't a driver issue.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
 
flahmeshess wrote:
> 1. It's NTFS
> 2. USB 2.0
> 3. I've tried all methods: dos prompt, explorer, Total commander.
> Allway Sync, xxcopy, ycopy.... hang
> 4. I've also tried to use NERO Backup. But NERO breaks the file up
> after certain size.
> 5. My files are > 1GB in size. Also happen for < 1GB.

Well I regularly backup my files (250MB to 500MB) to a USB flashdrive
with SP4 and have never encountered a problem, so your problem has
nothing to do with Win2k. Sound like a driver issue. When you look at
Device Manager under "Universal Serial Bus controllers", are there any
red or yellow warning markers? Is "Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host
Controller" (USB2 installed) shown?

Finally have a look at this website which should provide a solution.
http://www.usbman.com/Troubleshooter General.htm
 
ok. I didn't get any ? or !. Thanks.

David H. Lipman wrote:

> From: "flahmeshess" <dingdongdingding@yahoo.com>
>
> | I downloaded the chipset software and installed it. Then I went to
> | the device manager and changed all the USB drivers to Intel.
> | Rebooted. Still hang. I don't know if I've done the driver update
> | correctly.
> |
>
> If it was done corerectly then there would be no yellow "!" or "?" [ exclamation or
> question ] marks in Device Manager.
>
> If the copy process is still problematic after that, then it isn't a driver issue.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
 
When you say 250MB to 500MB, are you referring to file size or the
total number of bytes ? My files are > 500MB or > 1GB.

No yellow or red error warning marks.

Frank Booth Snr wrote:

> flahmeshess wrote:
> > 1. It's NTFS
> > 2. USB 2.0
> > 3. I've tried all methods: dos prompt, explorer, Total commander.
> > Allway Sync, xxcopy, ycopy.... hang
> > 4. I've also tried to use NERO Backup. But NERO breaks the file up
> > after certain size.
> > 5. My files are > 1GB in size. Also happen for < 1GB.
>
> Well I regularly backup my files (250MB to 500MB) to a USB flashdrive
> with SP4 and have never encountered a problem, so your problem has
> nothing to do with Win2k. Sound like a driver issue. When you look at
> Device Manager under "Universal Serial Bus controllers", are there any
> red or yellow warning markers? Is "Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host
> Controller" (USB2 installed) shown?
>
> Finally have a look at this website which should provide a solution.
> http://www.usbman.com/Troubleshooter General.htm
 
Your questions...Is "Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host
Controller" (USB2 installed) shown?

My Answer: I have the following:

Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2830
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2831
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2832
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2834
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 2836
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 283A
USB 2.0 Root Hub
USB 2.0 Root Hub
USB Composite Device
USB Mass Storage Device <=== This appeared when I plug in my USB HDD
USB Printing Support
USB Root Hub
USB Root Hub
USB Root Hub
USB Root Hub
USB Root Hub

On Mar 17, 1:47 am, Frank Booth Snr <fb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> flahmeshess wrote:
> > 1. It's NTFS
> > 2. USB 2.0
> > 3. I've tried all methods: dos prompt, explorer, Total commander.
> > Allway Sync, xxcopy, ycopy.... hang
> > 4. I've also tried to use NERO Backup. But NERO breaks the file up
> > after certain size.
> > 5. My files are > 1GB in size. Also happen for < 1GB.
>
> Well I regularly backup my files (250MB to 500MB) to a USB flashdrive
> with SP4 and have never encountered a problem, so your problem has
> nothing to do with Win2k. Sound like a driver issue. When you look at
> Device Manager under "Universal Serial Bus controllers", are there any
> red or yellow warning markers? Is "Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host
> Controller" (USB2 installed) shown?
>
> Finally have a look at this website which should provide a solution.http://www.usbman.com/Troubleshooter General.htm
 
"flahmeshess" <dingdongdingding@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:73c77dc4-6956-44ba-b067-8bcea6d1509c@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> My USB Mass Storage Device is dated 11/14/1999 version 5.0.2183.1. Is
> this outdated ?

From your earlier post you clearly have your PC configured for USB2 which is
compatible with USB devices. Your drive will only makes use of USB, not USB2
as that wasn't around then, so it's a much slower device. You should see
'USB mass storage device' under Device Manager, when it's plugged in. Double
click just to make sure it's shown as working properly. You should also see
a separate category 'Storage Volume' which is your listed USB device. Check
that this is also working properly and whether Device Manager can actually
show the actual name of the manufacturer of the device in 'location'. Also
ckeck that the device has been digitally signed when you look under the tab
'driver'.

Finally, r.click My Computer/Manage/Disk Management. Check that the drive is
shown correctly (when connected), particularly its size is being seen by
Win2k and correctly described.
 
My USB is 2.0 and my drive is also USB 2.0.
I don't see a "Storage Volume", is it because I'm using Win2000 ?
The drive is correctly sized.

On Mar 19, 11:32 am, "Frank Booth Snr" <fb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "flahmeshess" <dingdongdingd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:73c77dc4-6956-44ba-b067-8bcea6d1509c@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > My USB Mass Storage Device is dated 11/14/1999 version 5.0.2183.1. Is
> > this outdated ?
>
> From your earlier post you clearly have your PC configured for USB2 which is
> compatible with USB devices. Your drive will only makes use of USB, not USB2
> as that wasn't around then, so it's a much slower device. You should see
> 'USB mass storage device' under Device Manager, when it's plugged in. Double
> click just to make sure it's shown as working properly. You should also see
> a separate category 'Storage Volume' which is your listed USB device. Check
> that this is also working properly and whether Device Manager can actually
> show the actual name of the manufacturer of the device in 'location'. Also
> ckeck that the device has been digitally signed when you look under the tab
> 'driver'.
>
> Finally, r.click My Computer/Manage/Disk Management. Check that the drive is
> shown correctly (when connected), particularly its size is being seen by
> Win2k and correctly described.
 
My USBStor.sys is dated 11/14/1999 version 5.0.2183.1. What is the
latest ? If outdated, where I can download the newer one ? Can't
find it on Microsoft website.

On Mar 18, 12:06 am, flahmeshess <dingdongdingd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> My USB Mass Storage Device is dated 11/14/1999 version 5.0.2183.1. Is
> this outdated ?
 
I found a USBStor in driverguide. I tried to see if by replacing it
would solve the problem. But I cannot replace it. When I copy over
it, I keep getting the old copy in windows/system32/driver. What is
the right way to replace the usbstor.sys ? Thank...

On Mar 21, 6:05 pm, flahmeshess <dingdongdingd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> My USBStor.sys is dated 11/14/1999 version 5.0.2183.1. What is the
> latest ? If outdated, where I can download the newer one ? Can't
> find it on Microsoft website.
>
> On Mar 18, 12:06 am, flahmeshess <dingdongdingd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > My USB Mass Storage Device is dated 11/14/1999 version 5.0.2183.1. Is
> > this outdated ?
 
Some USB ports don't seem to perform up to spec on particular computers,
IME, as to the power requirements of the USB drive. This would explain
yours working on one box and not another. Try a power adapter or a
powered hub and see if it works.

flahmeshess wrote:
> When I copy large files to my USB drive, it hangs. I've done some
> checking and found there is a problem with Win2k that is fixed in
> SP2. But I'm already using SP4. Any idea what could be wrong ?
>
> I don't think it's a hardware issue. I've use the drive on a XP
> machine and I can copy large files.
>
> Thanks for your advice.
 
flahmeshess wrote:
> I found a USBStor in driverguide. I tried to see if by replacing it
> would solve the problem. But I cannot replace it. When I copy over
> it, I keep getting the old copy in windows/system32/driver. What is
> the right way to replace the usbstor.sys ? Thank...
>
> On Mar 21, 6:05 pm, flahmeshess <dingdongdingd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>My USBStor.sys is dated 11/14/1999 version 5.0.2183.1. What is the
>>latest ? If outdated, where I can download the newer one ? Can't
>>find it on Microsoft website.
>>
>>On Mar 18, 12:06 am, flahmeshess <dingdongdingd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My USB Mass Storage Device is dated 11/14/1999 version 5.0.2183.1. Is
>>>this outdated ?
>
You don't need to update it. Win2k provides all the generic drivers for
your device.
 
flahmeshess wrote:
> My USB is 2.0 and my drive is also USB 2.0.
> I don't see a "Storage Volume", is it because I'm using Win2000 ?
> The drive is correctly sized.
>
No. I have Win2k. How does Device Manager describe your device? Does it
tell you the manufacturer, whether the device has been digitally signed?
The best way to tell is unplug your device, look at DM, then plug in the
drive, and see what extra device description is seen. Mine shows up as
'Storage Volume' with 'Generic Volume' sub-categorised. It's within that
category that DM gives the full description of the device with a correct
description of driver provider (in my case Microsoft). It's also seen
under the 'Disk Drive' heading with a correct description of the
manufacturer.

You should not need to download any extra drivers for the device. Win2k
SP4 own generic drivers should suffice.
 
Device Type: Storage Volumes
Manufacturer: Microsoft
Location: Volume Manager

Driver Provider: Microsoft
Driver Date: 11/14/1999
Driver Version: 5.0.2183.1
Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows 2000 Publisher

There are 3 buttons. The Driver Details is blanks out. So I cannot
click on it. I can click on Uninstall & Update Driver.

How the above ? Any problems ?

On Mar 23, 3:14 am, Frank Booth Snr <fb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> No. I have Win2k. How does Device Manager describe your device? Does it
> tell you the manufacturer, whether the device has been digitally signed?
> The best way to tell is unplug your device, look at DM, then plug in the
> drive, and see what extra device description is seen. Mine shows up as
> 'Storage Volume' with 'Generic Volume' sub-categorised. It's within that
> category that DM gives the full description of the device with a correct
> description of driver provider (in my case Microsoft). It's also seen
> under the 'Disk Drive' heading with a correct description of the
> manufacturer.
>
> You should not need to download any extra drivers for the device. Win2k
> SP4 own generic drivers should suffice.
 
flahmeshess wrote:
> Device Type: Storage Volumes
> Manufacturer: Microsoft
> Location: Volume Manager
>
> Driver Provider: Microsoft
> Driver Date: 11/14/1999
> Driver Version: 5.0.2183.1
> Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows 2000 Publisher
>
> There are 3 buttons. The Driver Details is blanks out. So I cannot
> click on it. I can click on Uninstall & Update Driver.
>
> How the above ? Any problems ?
>
> On Mar 23, 3:14 am, Frank Booth Snr <fb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
The driver details are blanked out which tells you that extra drivers
are not needed. The Location should have given you the manufacturer of
the disk. I'm a little suspicious that all you have is 'Volume Manager'.
What details are you shown in DM under Disk drives, when you click on
the drive, and are the manufacturers shown for your all HDDs? Is USB
device shown as 'working properly'? Have you checked 'Properties' (click
My Computer/Drive letter for USB drive)? Is the correct disk capacity
correct?
 
Hi Frank
I just checked my office machine. It also says "Volume Manager". I
tried copying to USB but I didn't have this problem. I will go back
and check the PC for the other questions you raised. Thanks.

Frank Booth Snr wrote:

> flahmeshess wrote:
> > Device Type: Storage Volumes
> > Manufacturer: Microsoft
> > Location: Volume Manager
> >
> > Driver Provider: Microsoft
> > Driver Date: 11/14/1999
> > Driver Version: 5.0.2183.1
> > Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows 2000 Publisher
> >
> > There are 3 buttons. The Driver Details is blanks out. So I cannot
> > click on it. I can click on Uninstall & Update Driver.
> >
> > How the above ? Any problems ?
> >
> > On Mar 23, 3:14 am, Frank Booth Snr <fb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> The driver details are blanked out which tells you that extra drivers
> are not needed. The Location should have given you the manufacturer of
> the disk. I'm a little suspicious that all you have is 'Volume Manager'.
> What details are you shown in DM under Disk drives, when you click on
> the drive, and are the manufacturers shown for your all HDDs? Is USB
> device shown as 'working properly'? Have you checked 'Properties' (click
> My Computer/Drive letter for USB drive)? Is the correct disk capacity
> correct?
 
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