Mostly all figured out with Ultimate, but I suspect there may be differences
in lesser versions when it comes to ease of setting up a workgroup. Here's
the main trick:
http://help.lockergnome.com/windows2/Vista-network-problem-ftopict482765.html
There's a post near the bottom from Gloria Boyer, MSFT, that explains the
issue is authentication. Vista is configured out of the box to use *only*
NTLM2 for authentication. For domain-controlled networks (I don't think it
works for Workgroups, though I'm still looking into that), what you do is
install DSClient and then add an entry to the Registry that makes the
authentication NTLM2-only. (See
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239869).
But what worked for me is to change Vista to accept NTLM(1) as per Steve
Winograd's solution:
http://help.lockergnome.com/windows2/WinMe-Vista-glitch-ftopict484703.html
Major problem with this method is that while I (and others who have
reported) can see Vista's shared folders from Win98 (Gold, fully updated, no
DSClient or Registry tweak), there are two shares that you can't touch
(total freeze.) They are Vista's built in shares called "Users" and
"Public". Why, I don't know, but I'm still playing with it.
Anyway, if you want to transfer any or ALL of the data from a Win98 machine
to the Vista machine, create a folder on the Vista machine (not on the
Desktop, where you can't apparently share folders for some reason), share
it, and then do Steve's two tweaks. The folder should then be totally
available to the Win98 machine.
Other things to remember: There must exist a User on the Vista machine with
exactly the same username and password you use to log onto your Win9x
machine. And any time you mess with network settings on the Vista machine,
for some weird reason, to finish the job you may have to go to the Users
applet and "change" your password. DON'T actually change it, just put in the
same old password three times and click OK (or whatever -- I can't see Vista
while I write because it's dual-booted on this machine and I'm not moving my
mail over there.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com
"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
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> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uO7gZ6$zIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> To both Hackmaster and DadiOH... Putting an IDE hard drive into almost
>> any of the newer machines isn't always easy, or even possible. Even if
>> you manage to connect it to the PATA connector, strange things happen
>> that
>> require different settings in BIOS, and it can get weird, to say the
>> least.
>>
>> New external enclosure won't work, either, since it has the same problem
>> as the flash drives. Next to no USB support.
>>
>> Networking is the way to go, IMO.
>
> As long as you're networking the 98 machine with the XP machine, it's the
> way to go.
>
> Trying to network a 98 system with a Vista system is not worth the effort,
> if you can get it to work at all. You may get the Vista system to copy
> from the 98 system, but don't even bother trying to look the other
> way....at least in my experience it has been a mess.
>
> Have you had any luck with a Vista--98 network?
>
>
>> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:uTxC5s5zIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> technolady@earthlink.net wrote:
>>>> I have an old Win98 computer that doesn't have internet access, and i
>>>> need to transfer files from it to a newer computer. Trying to use a
>>>> flash drive for it, but the flash drive manufacturer requires download
>>>> of drivers to use it with SE, and it can't be used for earlier
>>>> versions of Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions on (1) transferring the files
>>>
>>> 1. Remove drive from old computer
>>>
>>> 2. Put drive in new computer after setting drive jumper to reflect the
>>> position (master/slave)
>>>
>>> 3. Copy files
>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
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>