Ubuntu Not Ready for the Desktop?

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Telstar wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message
> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Tell that to Dell:
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html
>>
>> Alias
>
> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.
>
>

In 1981, IBM was the only game in town with Tandy and Apple way behind.
MS was nowhere to be found and look at them now.

Alias
 
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:00:57 -0700, Telstar wrote:

> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message
> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Tell that to Dell:
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html
>>
>> Alias
>
> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.

And you got this 2% figure from where exactly?

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"Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@screwspammers.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:00:57 -0700, Telstar wrote:
>
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message
>> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Tell that to Dell:
>>>
>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.
>
> And you got this 2% figure from where exactly?

His ass of course.

Mike
 
Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need all they
can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and Ubuntu goes down
well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me wrong I like Ubuntu and
use it and like Dell and its computers but for you to use it as your
promotion is laughable.

--
Ian

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message
news:#R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Tell that to Dell:
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html
>
> Alias
>
 
Dell is OK but you best go back to 1981.

--
Ian

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message
news:#smf3bD0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Telstar wrote:
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message
>> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Tell that to Dell:
>>>
>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.
>>
>>
>
> In 1981, IBM was the only game in town with Tandy and Apple way behind. MS
> was nowhere to be found and look at them now.
>
> Alias
 
"Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message
news:1F5584D7-E348-4F30-A92B-BE787EA000E6@microsoft.com...
> Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need all
> they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and Ubuntu
> goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me wrong I like
> Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but for you to use it as
> your promotion is laughable.

He's obviously being paid by Ubuntu to troll MS newsgroups.

Mike
 
Ian Betts wrote:
> Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need all
> they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and Ubuntu
> goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me wrong I
> like Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but for you to
> use it as your promotion is laughable.
>

The fact that Dell is selling Ubuntu computers and nVidia is now
including Linux drivers with the graphics cards doesn't tell you something?

Alias
 
Mike wrote:
> "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message
> news:1F5584D7-E348-4F30-A92B-BE787EA000E6@microsoft.com...
>> Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need
>> all they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and
>> Ubuntu goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me
>> wrong I like Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but for
>> you to use it as your promotion is laughable.
>
> He's obviously being paid by Ubuntu to troll MS newsgroups.
>
> Mike
>

Baseless lie.

Alias
 
Did you think that 2% was a little optimistic too? Had it been any kind of
real success, Dell would have published figures.. of course, Dell have been
here before, haven't they.. :-)


"Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@screwspammers.com> wrote in message
news:JPqdnR63Ra4mWjTbnZ2dnUVZ8tjinZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:00:57 -0700, Telstar wrote:
>
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message
>> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Tell that to Dell:
>>>
>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.
>
> And you got this 2% figure from where exactly?
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
> å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
 
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 06:52:49 -0400, Mike wrote:

> "Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@screwspammers.com> wrote in message
> news:JPqdnR63Ra4mWjTbnZ2dnUVZ8tjinZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:00:57 -0700, Telstar wrote:
>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message
>>> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Tell that to Dell:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.
>>
>> And you got this 2% figure from where exactly?
>
> His ass of course.

I knew something smelled funny. That explains it.

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"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message news:eOFc9HE0HHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Did you think that 2% was a little optimistic too? Had it been any kind of
> real success, Dell would have published figures.. of course, Dell have been
> here before, haven't they.. :-)
>
>
> "Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@screwspammers.com> wrote in message
> news:JPqdnR63Ra4mWjTbnZ2dnUVZ8tjinZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:00:57 -0700, Telstar wrote:
>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message
>>> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Tell that to Dell:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.
>>
>> And you got this 2% figure from where exactly?
>>
>> --
>> Stephan
>> 2003 Yamaha R6
>>
>> å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
>> å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰
>
> --
>
>
> Mike Hall
> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>
>
>
 
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:33:20 -0400, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> Did you think that 2% was a little optimistic too? Had it been any kind of
> real success, Dell would have published figures.. of course, Dell have been
> here before, haven't they.. :-)

Haha, nice one.

What I think that matters more than any percentages is that they are
working on adding more systems with it. That basically means that whatever
percentage they are currently seeing, they are happy with and consider it
worth their time to expand their offerings.

Which is good, Microsoft could use some competition, even if they
probably wouldn't agree with that. =)

Ultimately it's us, the consumers, who benefit from competition as it
leads to better products.

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Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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Ian Betts wrote:
> Dell is OK but you best go back to 1981.
>

Another Wintard top poster who has a sig that most newsreaders snip
along with the rest of the post.

You must have a learning disability because my example is spot on. Go
back to my post and reread it. Just because MS is number one today
doesn't mean it will be so tomorrow and the intrusive features of Vista
will help Ubuntu and hurt MS. Period.

Alias
 
This article was commissioned by Mr Ubuntu, so it is hardly surprising that
Dell did not want to commit to real figures. I thought that Ms Dell handled
it very well.

Feisty Fawn should be renamed Frumpy Friesian.. the download takes a longer
time than getting Vista x86 and 64 combined, and the default install desktop
is terrible, sporting two flavors of slurry brown.. Kubuntu looks better, as
does PClinuxOS..

Open Office is ok, but is very reminiscent of WP 5.2 for Windows or MS 2.0
for Windows. It is free of course, but the price is an 'old' look and not
quite all of the features

25,000 apps? Even Beryl will have problems displaying that many.. lol.. most
of the home computers I see have only 5 apps and that includes Calculator,
Address Book and Notepad

MS does like competition because the competition makes MS products look
good. Linux is its own worst enemy and always has been. There are too many
players and little cohesion between them. Remember back to the early days
before the PC, all of the different manufacturers all doing their own thing?

Linux in commerce is a very different ballpark. One would expect it to do
well as UNIX always was essentially the OS of choice, but the criteria are
very different.

Desktop Linux has a long way to go, and I have a feeling that it will
eventually follow the path of MS and Windows, where one type will break away
from the rest of the pack. The development of such a flavor will require
payment, and it will have to lose the lunatic fringe supporters who
presently make ridiculous claims for it.

For free, it is good, but free isn't quite everything.. as always, those who
can afford to pay for the best invariably get a better product, whether it
be an OS, washing machine or car.

"Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@screwspammers.com> wrote in message
news:JPqdnRi3Ra7HeDTbnZ2dnUVZ8tjinZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:33:20 -0400, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>
>> Did you think that 2% was a little optimistic too? Had it been any kind
>> of
>> real success, Dell would have published figures.. of course, Dell have
>> been
>> here before, haven't they.. :-)
>
> Haha, nice one.
>
> What I think that matters more than any percentages is that they are
> working on adding more systems with it. That basically means that whatever
> percentage they are currently seeing, they are happy with and consider it
> worth their time to expand their offerings.
>
> Which is good, Microsoft could use some competition, even if they
> probably wouldn't agree with that. =)
>
> Ultimately it's us, the consumers, who benefit from competition as it
> leads to better products.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
> å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

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MS MVP Windows Shell/User
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Alias wrote:

> Mike wrote:
>
>> "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message
>> news:1F5584D7-E348-4F30-A92B-BE787EA000E6@microsoft.com...
>>
>>> Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need
>>> all they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and
>>> Ubuntu goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me
>>> wrong I like Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but
>>> for you to use it as your promotion is laughable.
>>
>>
>> He's obviously being paid by Ubuntu to troll MS newsgroups.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
> Baseless lie.
>
> Alias

Awful truth!
Frank
 
Alias wrote:

> Ian Betts wrote:
>
>> Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need
>> all they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and
>> Ubuntu goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me
>> wrong I like Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but for
>> you to use it as your promotion is laughable.
>>
>
> The fact that Dell is selling Ubuntu computers and nVidia is now
> including Linux drivers with the graphics cards doesn't tell you something?
>
> Alias

Dell is desperate!
Frank
 
"Alias" asked...
> The fact that Dell is selling Ubuntu computers and nVidia is now including
> Linux drivers with the graphics cards doesn't tell you something?
>

I tells me that price wars and other sales figures have Dell desperately
trying to cut costs any way they can. -)
 

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