The XP group is just as busy as Vista

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Rachel

All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
reliability is going up while XP is going down.
 
"Rachel" <petlamb@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
> reliability is going up while XP is going down.


Nope, like my XP. The Vista machine had Linux/Ubuntu installed.

Vista, bought my first and last Vista. If the next time I need a PC I can't
get Linux or XP, or something much better than Vista I will not buy it.
 
On Jun 5, 2:54 pm, "Rachel" <petl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
> reliability is going up while XP is going down.



But does the XP group have retards like Adam Albright?
 
of course you can provide proof of your statement???

"Rachel" wrote:

> All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
> reliability is going up while XP is going down.
>
>
>
 
On Jun 5, 5:54 pm, "Rachel" <petl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
> reliability is going up while XP is going down.


Due to a bigger installed base of Windows XP

more software compatible with Windows XP

More hardware compatible with Windows XP

- and possibly because

many people are rolling back from

Vista to XP
 
Oh yeah! :P

<billYanaire2@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 5, 2:54 pm, "Rachel" <petl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
> reliability is going up while XP is going down.



But does the XP group have retards like Adam Albright?
 
On Jun 5, 6:33 pm, sgopus <sgo...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> of course you can provide proof of your statement???
>
>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP

Windows XP was first released on October 25, 2001, and over 400
million copies were in use in January 2006, according to an estimate
in that month by an IDC analyst.[3]


http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.co...opies-of-vista-sold-how-does-leopard-compare/

May 8, 2008, 4:33 pm

140 million copies of Vista sold. How does Leopard compare?
 
"Rachel" <petlamb@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
> reliability is going up while XP is going down.
>



Rachel

They were bashing XP prior to Jan 2007. Presently, they are warming up for
the arrival of the next incarnation of Windows.


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Contrarians have always been so. XP was terrible before Vista came out.
Then it was "save Win98" and "just wait for Longhorn." Now Vista is
terrible and it is "save XP" and "just wait for Windows 7." In 2010 Windows
7 will be terrible and it will be "save Vista" and "just wait for Windows
Wonderful." It has never, never been any different. Contrarianism is a way
of finding affirmation through negativism. Just think about how they talk
about their spouses!

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
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> "Rachel" <petlamb@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OwjN0a1xIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
>> reliability is going up while XP is going down.
>>

>
>
> Rachel
>
> They were bashing XP prior to Jan 2007. Presently, they are warming up for
> the arrival of the next incarnation of Windows.
>
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> How to construct a good post..
> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
> Mike's Window - My Blog..
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>
>
>
>
 
<cheley_bonstell88@live.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 5, 5:54 pm, "Rachel" <petl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
>> reliability is going up while XP is going down.


>Due to a bigger installed base of Windows XP
>
>more software compatible with Windows XP
>
>More hardware compatible with Windows XP
>
>- and possibly because
>
>many people are rolling back from
>
>Vista to XP


Or buying Eee PC with XP. Or buying a Apple. Or loading Linux. Which are
all growing in popularity. In fact, Amazon can't keep the Linux version of
Eee PC in stock.

But I see they are back in stock at the top of the best sellers list:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/pc/
 
>In 2010 Windows 7 will be terrible and it will be "save Vista" and "just
>wait for Windows Wonderful."


Who needs to save Vista since so many have skipped it entirely.

If Windows 7 will be as terrible as Vista, platform migration will be taking
off. Incidentally, according to Gartner, both Apple and Open Source (not
equal to Linux nor Free software) will be growing rapidly in the next few
years.

Yes, some people still live in the past while others want to move on, one
way or the other.


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Contrarians have always been so. XP was terrible before Vista came out.
> Then it was "save Win98" and "just wait for Longhorn." Now Vista is
> terrible and it is "save XP" and "just wait for Windows 7." In 2010
> Windows 7 will be terrible and it will be "save Vista" and "just wait for
> Windows Wonderful." It has never, never been any different.
> Contrarianism is a way of finding affirmation through negativism. Just
> think about how they talk about their spouses!
>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
> news:%23miKE$1xIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> "Rachel" <petlamb@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OwjN0a1xIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
>>> reliability is going up while XP is going down.
>>>

>>
>>
>> Rachel
>>
>> They were bashing XP prior to Jan 2007. Presently, they are warming up
>> for the arrival of the next incarnation of Windows.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall - MVP
>> How to construct a good post..
>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
 
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
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> They were bashing XP prior to Jan 2007. Presently, they are warming up for
> the arrival of the next incarnation of Windows.


You are right, there was XP bashing back then. One I remember was
eXTortion. Because it had more DRM in it, but not nearly as much as Vista.
Add to it most of that DRM was bypassable inside the first year.

But that aside, it died quickly with the first round of patches and inside
of 16 months everyone was jumping onto XP without a peep. Companies were in
full roll outs and going all out XP.

16 months of Vista, and everyone is still complaining and companies are
holding out. Long gone are the days where people lined up outside of stores
at 4am to be the first to get Windows 95. Bet Vista Ultimate full retails
have dust on them. Microsoft has been on a slide ever since with ever
increasing resistance to change. Partially due to it's own success and
partially due to Vista's short comings.

No one held off for Win 98 or WinMe 15 months after Win95. Or at least no
one I knew. WFWG was inferior to Win95. Vista is just a pile of problems
for users over XP and offers nothing tangibly new.

But the fact is, XP bashing is no where near the levels of Vista bashing.
Not even remotely close.
 
"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:54:16 -0400, "Rachel" <petlamb@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
>>reliability is going up while XP is going down.

>
> Pointing out what's wrong in Vista isn't bashing it. Bashing is what
> morons like Bill and Frank do because they don't know any better.


One big huge thing about XP though, Vista is now 17 or so months into
general release.

But that time XP had acceptance. Vista, still waiting for critical fixes
while all the core developers are on to the next abortion called Win7.

Does not seem to me that the needed Vista fixes are coming down the
pipeline. Beta testers for Win7 I suspect.
 
"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
> news:%23miKE$1xIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>> They were bashing XP prior to Jan 2007. Presently, they are warming up
>> for the arrival of the next incarnation of Windows.

>
> You are right, there was XP bashing back then. One I remember was
> eXTortion. Because it had more DRM in it, but not nearly as much as
> Vista. Add to it most of that DRM was bypassable inside the first year.
>
> But that aside, it died quickly with the first round of patches and inside
> of 16 months everyone was jumping onto XP without a peep. Companies were
> in full roll outs and going all out XP.
>
> 16 months of Vista, and everyone is still complaining and companies are
> holding out. Long gone are the days where people lined up outside of
> stores at 4am to be the first to get Windows 95. Bet Vista Ultimate full
> retails have dust on them. Microsoft has been on a slide ever since with
> ever increasing resistance to change. Partially due to it's own success
> and partially due to Vista's short comings.
>
> No one held off for Win 98 or WinMe 15 months after Win95. Or at least no
> one I knew. WFWG was inferior to Win95. Vista is just a pile of problems
> for users over XP and offers nothing tangibly new.
>
> But the fact is, XP bashing is no where near the levels of Vista bashing.
> Not even remotely close.
>
>
>



XP, if you remember, received SP2 which was NOT a simple rollup of updates.
It was a MAJOR rewrite of over 5 million lines of code.

I also dispute your claims that companies were rolling out XP gleefully in
the early days. Many companies could see no reason to use XP, and still
can't.

Al of this bashing has been seen before. Unfortunately, Vista appearance at
the door co-incided with a downturn in the global economy, and was badly
supported by OEMs and peripheral device manufacturers.

It will be interesting to see what is said about Vista when Windows 7
appears..


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"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
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> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:54:16 -0400, "Rachel" <petlamb@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
>>>reliability is going up while XP is going down.

>>
>> Pointing out what's wrong in Vista isn't bashing it. Bashing is what
>> morons like Bill and Frank do because they don't know any better.

>
> One big huge thing about XP though, Vista is now 17 or so months into
> general release.
>
> But that time XP had acceptance. Vista, still waiting for critical fixes
> while all the core developers are on to the next abortion called Win7.
>
> Does not seem to me that the needed Vista fixes are coming down the
> pipeline. Beta testers for Win7 I suspect.
>



Normal procedure for all software. As soon as one version is released, the
back room boys start on the next incarnation..


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In fact the Windows roadmap extends many iterations into the future as
always.

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
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> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>> news:patg44lc7qi7ea4sqrtn1tjg7clje5vo4b@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:54:16 -0400, "Rachel" <petlamb@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
>>>>reliability is going up while XP is going down.
>>>
>>> Pointing out what's wrong in Vista isn't bashing it. Bashing is what
>>> morons like Bill and Frank do because they don't know any better.

>>
>> One big huge thing about XP though, Vista is now 17 or so months into
>> general release.
>>
>> But that time XP had acceptance. Vista, still waiting for critical fixes
>> while all the core developers are on to the next abortion called Win7.
>>
>> Does not seem to me that the needed Vista fixes are coming down the
>> pipeline. Beta testers for Win7 I suspect.
>>

>
>
> Normal procedure for all software. As soon as one version is released, the
> back room boys start on the next incarnation..
>
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> How to construct a good post..
> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
> Mike's Window - My Blog..
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>
>
>
>
 
"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
> news:%23miKE$1xIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>> They were bashing XP prior to Jan 2007. Presently, they are warming up
>> for the arrival of the next incarnation of Windows.

>
> You are right, there was XP bashing back then. One I remember was
> eXTortion. Because it had more DRM in it, but not nearly as much as
> Vista. Add to it most of that DRM was bypassable inside the first year.
>
> But that aside, it died quickly with the first round of patches and inside
> of 16 months everyone was jumping onto XP without a peep. Companies were
> in full roll outs and going all out XP.
>
> 16 months of Vista, and everyone is still complaining and companies are
> holding out. Long gone are the days where people lined up outside of
> stores at 4am to be the first to get Windows 95. Bet Vista Ultimate full
> retails have dust on them.


Untrue. Both the local Best Buy and Circuit City are sold out of almost all
Microsoft products...Vista and Office 2007.
 
"Rachel" <petlamb@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
> reliability is going up while XP is going down.
>


xp.general is still busy with help requests, etc., but it's more
peaceful now that the anti-MS vs pro-MS, and Linux vs Windows
rhetoric has mostly moved to vista.general.
 
I have to say. I was on a couple of service call today and I said to myself,
"I wish this computer had Vista" That happens to me often while fixing
computers. I deal with a high volume of computers. Vista is way more
reliable then XP.

"Rachel" <petlamb@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
> reliability is going up while XP is going down.
>
 
And this ng is not nearly as bad as it was a year ago.

"Ian D" <taurus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rachel" <petlamb@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OwjN0a1xIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> All you Vista bashers now need to turn into Windows bashers. Vista's
>> reliability is going up while XP is going down.
>>

>
> xp.general is still busy with help requests, etc., but it's more
> peaceful now that the anti-MS vs pro-MS, and Linux vs Windows
> rhetoric has mostly moved to vista.general.
>
 
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