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In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
says...
> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public*

Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the
root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure,
the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.

Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a
private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to access
it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.

Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet
provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some limit
you monthly byte count, etc....

Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as
Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with a
web interface to it also.

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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227ec0127ee5fa95989756@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article <eQht0JKqIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com
> says...
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.227dbe33a471a0e398974b@adfree.usenet.com...
>> > In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,
>> > Erratic@ne.rr.com
>> > says...
>> >> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups,
>> >> but
>> >> they
>> >> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
>> > If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even
>> > personal
>> > servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet
>> > server
>> > can subscribe to them.
>> ...or archive them.
>> In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used
>> outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the
>> statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are
>> broadcast and propagated to usenet at large.
>> So *this* is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's
>> microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by
>> microsoft by only carrying their groups.
> I agree, with this change - MS is doing their part on Usenet service
> in
> the facilities, they ARE using Usenet and have also provided a web
> interface for it.

The NNTP *protocal* That MS newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I
see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...

-jen
 
"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> says...
>> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their
>> *.public*
> Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the
> root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure,
> the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.
> Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a
> private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to
> access
> it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.
> Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet
> provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some
> limit
> you monthly byte count, etc....
> Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as
> Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with
> a
> web interface to it also.

You're the one missing the point ) It's very simple, really...
The NNTP *protocal* That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I
see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...
Do your homewark!
-jen
 
In article <ekZucDMqIHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
says...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> > says...
> >> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their
> >> *.public*
> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the
> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure,
> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.
> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a
> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to
> > access
> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.
> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet
> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some
> > limit
> > you monthly byte count, etc....
> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as
> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with
> > a
> > web interface to it also.
>
> You're the one missing the point ) It's very simple, really...
> The NNTP *protocal* That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I
> see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...
> Do your homewark!

Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on the
defined structure, and it could encompass public and private servers
where private servers allow public connections.

Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/



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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227edbf3ec811aed98975a@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article <ekZucDMqIHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> says...
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...
>> > In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>> > says...
>> >> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their
>> >> *.public*
>> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's
>> > the
>> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the
>> > infrastructure,
>> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.
>> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have
>> > a
>> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to
>> > access
>> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.
>> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every
>> > Usenet
>> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some
>> > limit
>> > you monthly byte count, etc....
>> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use
>> > as
>> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet
>> > with
>> > a
>> > web interface to it also.
>> You're the one missing the point ) It's very simple, really...
>> The NNTP *protocal* That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period.
>> I
>> see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...
>> Do your homewark!
> Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on the
> defined structure, and it could encompass public and private servers
> where private servers allow public connections.
> Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/

Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up). Microsoft
does *not* peer with *any* other newsservers, therefore
msnews.microsoft.com is *not* a part of Usenet, period. It appears you
cannot understand simple logic...
Case closed.

-jen
 
In article <#aKCTLNqIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
says...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227edbf3ec811aed98975a@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article <ekZucDMqIHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> > says...
> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...
> >> > In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> >> > says...
> >> >> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their
> >> >> *.public*
> >> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's
> >> > the
> >> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the
> >> > infrastructure,
> >> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.
> >> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have
> >> > a
> >> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to
> >> > access
> >> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.
> >> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every
> >> > Usenet
> >> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some
> >> > limit
> >> > you monthly byte count, etc....
> >> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use
> >> > as
> >> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet
> >> > with
> >> > a
> >> > web interface to it also.
> >> You're the one missing the point ) It's very simple, really...
> >> The NNTP *protocal* That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period.
> >> I
> >> see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...
> >> Do your homewark!
> > Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on the
> > defined structure, and it could encompass public and private servers
> > where private servers allow public connections.
> > Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:
> > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/
>
> Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up). Microsoft
> does *not* peer with *any* other newsservers, therefore
> msnews.microsoft.com is *not* a part of Usenet, period. It appears you
> cannot understand simple logic...
> Case closed.

Yes, MS does peer with other servers. I post to a non-MS Usenet server,
my posts show up on the MS servers as they peer with outside sources.

You can apologize now.

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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227f71659f56dc7098975c@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article <#aKCTLNqIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> says...
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.227edbf3ec811aed98975a@adfree.usenet.com...
>> > In article <ekZucDMqIHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>> > says...
>> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> >> news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...
>> >> > In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>> >> > jen@example.com
>> >> > says...
>> >> >> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their
>> >> >> *.public*
>> >> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service,
>> >> > it's
>> >> > the
>> >> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the
>> >> > infrastructure,
>> >> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.
>> >> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they
>> >> > have
>> >> > a
>> >> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to
>> >> > access
>> >> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.
>> >> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every
>> >> > Usenet
>> >> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction,
>> >> > some
>> >> > limit
>> >> > you monthly byte count, etc....
>> >> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all
>> >> > use
>> >> > as
>> >> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet
>> >> > with
>> >> > a
>> >> > web interface to it also.
>> >> You're the one missing the point ) It's very simple, really...
>> >> The NNTP *protocal* That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET,
>> >> period.
>> >> I
>> >> see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...
>> >> Do your homewark!
>> > Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on
>> > the
>> > defined structure, and it could encompass public and private
>> > servers
>> > where private servers allow public connections.
>> > Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:
>> > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/
>> Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up). Microsoft
>> does *not* peer with *any* other newsservers, therefore
>> msnews.microsoft.com is *not* a part of Usenet, period. It appears
>> you
>> cannot understand simple logic...
>> Case closed.
> Yes, MS does peer with other servers. I post to a non-MS Usenet
> server,
> my posts show up on the MS servers as they peer with outside sources.
> You can apologize now.

I too, can post to MS newsgroups from my ISP's newsserver if I choose
to... That only means your newsserver admin has added the
microsoft.public.* hierarchy to their newsserver, *Not that they PEER
with msnews.microsoft.com. Sheesh!
"For a number of years, Microsoft has created the Microsoft.public
newsgroup hierarchy and made it *available to anyone ON the Usenet*(my
emphasis)".
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh[ln]newswhelp

Can you not comprehend this?:
[FAQ] How to add the microsoft.* hierarchy to a news server:
Last-modified: 2007/08/02
Microsoft created Microsoft public discussions covering many Microsoft
products, technologies, and topics because of the value of finding out
what your peers think and getting information from people who use the
same products and technologies you use.
The Microsoft public discussions have been available to anyone on
Usenet for a number of years.
http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/clefs/microsoft-faq.txt
I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).
Microsoft
does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore Microsoft *is
not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
"available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when you
can comprehend simple logic )

-jen(not a name)
 
In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
says...
> I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).
> Microsoft
> does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore Microsoft *is
> not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when you
> can comprehend simple logic )

Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.

You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly don't
understand how it works.

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drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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Who cares? Why don't you take this crap to email?

--
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"I contend that, for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity, is
like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the
handle." - Winston Churchill




"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> says...
>> I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).
>> Microsoft
>> does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore Microsoft *is
>> not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
>> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when you
>> can comprehend simple logic )
>
> Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.
>
> You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly don't
> understand how it works.
>
> --
> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
Glossary entries from one of the URL's you provided:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh[ln]newswhelp

NNTP
"Network News Transport Protocol, " the name of a protocol that controls the
request and exchange of Usenet messages.

News
The generic name for the Usenet.

Post
An individual Usenet message. Also, the act of sending an individual Usenet
message to a server that will display it in the newsgroup.

Usenet
The collection of all posts publicly distributed through NNTP.

***

It's starting to look like this *is* usenet even for you -

From your headers in your last *post* to this *newsgroup* using NNTP

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus
NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-150-224-76.tys.bellsouth.net 72.150.224.76

Anyways, it's *news* to me :o)
 
In article <#a#1mAWqIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com
says...
> Anyways, it's *news* to me :o)
>
LOL

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"FromTheRafters" <Erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%23a%231mAWqIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Glossary entries from one of the URL's you provided:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh[ln]newswhelp
> NNTP
> "Network News Transport Protocol, " the name of a protocol that
> controls the request and exchange of Usenet messages.
> News
> The generic name for the Usenet.
> Post
> An individual Usenet message. Also, the act of sending an individual
> Usenet message to a server that will display it in the newsgroup.
> Usenet
> The collection of all posts publicly distributed through NNTP.
> ***
> It's starting to look like this *is* usenet even for you -
> From your headers in your last *post* to this *newsgroup* using NNTP
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus
> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-150-224-76.tys.bellsouth.net 72.150.224.76

NNTP-Posting-Host: tells us with which *machine* a message originated
(if not spoofed )

> Anyways, it's *news* to me :o)

Did you miss this in my headers? )

Message-ID: <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>( MS news server)
(a unique ID assigned to this particular message by the news server (if
not spoofed )

Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl (MS news server )
(Path: header shows, from first to last, the news server from which you
read the message, all the news servers through which it was passed, and
lastly the news server where the message originated)

I never said "this is not Usenet"(whatever that means to you :) I
merely stated msnews.microsoft.com
is *not* a *part of Usenet* due to the fact they do not PEER with any
other newsservers. Why do you think other News Admins need a special
FAQ in order to add the microsoft.public.* hierarchy to their
newsservers to make MS' groups *available to anyone *ON* the Usenet*?
http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/clefs/microsoft-faq.txt
If you log on to msnews.microsoft.com(a *private* server) you do not
need to go through Usenet(via *your* NSP *if they happen to carry the
microsoft.public.* hierarchy) to post or read on their groups... There
are *many* private newsservers on the net(Using the NNTP protocol and
*not* on the Usenet) who chose *not* to make their groups *available to
anyone *ON* the Usenet*(you *have* to logon to their server to
read/post). Microsoft *chose* to make their groups *available to
anyone *ON* the Usenet*( if the NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public.*
hierarchy). See link above...

Capisc?
-jen
 
"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> says...
>> I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).
>> Microsoft
>> does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore Microsoft
>> *is
>> not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
>> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when
>> you
>> can comprehend simple logic )
> Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.
> You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly
> don't
> understand how it works.

You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for
msnews.microsoft.com to be *a part of Usenet*, they *have* to *PEER*
with other newsservers. Microsoft does *NOT* peer with *any* other
newsservers*, therefore msnews.microsoft.com *is not* a part of Usenet.
They simply make their *.public.* groups "available to anyone *ON* the
Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public.* hierarchy).
If you can *prove* otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" )

-jen
 
"Non-Usenet newsgroups are possible and do occur, as private individuals or
organizations set up their own nntp servers. Examples include the newsgroups
Microsoft run to allow peer-to-peer support of their products"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup


"jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message
news:urYpcghqIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
: news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...
: > In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
: > says...
: >> I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).
: >> Microsoft
: >> does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore Microsoft
: >> *is
: >> not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
: >> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when
: >> you
: >> can comprehend simple logic )
: > Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.
: > You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly
: > don't
: > understand how it works.
:
: You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for
: msnews.microsoft.com to be *a part of Usenet*, they *have* to *PEER*
: with other newsservers. Microsoft does *NOT* peer with *any* other
: newsservers*, therefore msnews.microsoft.com *is not* a part of Usenet.
: They simply make their *.public.* groups "available to anyone *ON* the
: Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public.* hierarchy).
: If you can *prove* otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" )
:
: -jen
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
 
"Newsgroup. A particular group within the Usenet. In October 2000, there
were more than 100,000 newsgroups. Each newsgroup is named according to a
hierarchical convention. Categories such as "rec," "comp," or "misc"
identify the general subject of the newsgroup. Additional terms are
sometimes added, uniquely defining the newsgroup within a collection of
others. Examples: comp.lang.perl.misc, rec.pets.cats,
Microsoft.public.access."

http://www.microsoft.com/communities/guide/newsgroupfaq.mspx


"jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message
news:urYpcghqIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
: news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...
: > In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
: > says...
: >> I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).
: >> Microsoft
: >> does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore Microsoft
: >> *is
: >> not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
: >> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when
: >> you
: >> can comprehend simple logic )
: > Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.
: > You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly
: > don't
: > understand how it works.
:
: You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for
: msnews.microsoft.com to be *a part of Usenet*, they *have* to *PEER*
: with other newsservers. Microsoft does *NOT* peer with *any* other
: newsservers*, therefore msnews.microsoft.com *is not* a part of Usenet.
: They simply make their *.public.* groups "available to anyone *ON* the
: Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public.* hierarchy).
: If you can *prove* otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" )
:
: -jen
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In article <urYpcghqIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
says...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> > says...
> >> I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).
> >> Microsoft
> >> does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore Microsoft
> >> *is
> >> not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
> >> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when
> >> you
> >> can comprehend simple logic )
> > Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.
> > You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly
> > don't
> > understand how it works.
>
> You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for
> msnews.microsoft.com to be *a part of Usenet*, they *have* to *PEER*
> with other newsservers. Microsoft does *NOT* peer with *any* other
> newsservers*, therefore msnews.microsoft.com *is not* a part of Usenet.
> They simply make their *.public.* groups "available to anyone *ON* the
> Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public.* hierarchy).
> If you can *prove* otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" )

Jen, you just don't seem to understand, MS is peering or they would not
show my posts to my Usenet provider on THEIR servers, and I would not
see their posts on my providers servers either.

Face it, you're completely wrong here - you might want to chat with one
of the old Usenet admins, the ones before they farmed support for it
out, and they would explain it to you.

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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.22813e39be8314ae98976d@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article <urYpcghqIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> says...
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...
>> > In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>> > says...
>> >> I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it
>> >> up).
>> >> Microsoft
>> >> does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore
>> >> Microsoft
>> >> *is
>> >> not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
>> >> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when
>> >> you
>> >> can comprehend simple logic )
>> > Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.
>> > You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly
>> > don't
>> > understand how it works.
>> You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for
>> msnews.microsoft.com to be *a part of Usenet*, they *have* to *PEER*
>> with other newsservers. Microsoft does *NOT* peer with *any* other
>> newsservers*, therefore msnews.microsoft.com *is not* a part of
>> Usenet.
>> They simply make their *.public.* groups "available to anyone *ON*
>> the
>> Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public.* hierarchy).
>> If you can *prove* otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" )
\> Jen, you just don't seem to understand, MS is peering or they would
not
> show my posts to my Usenet provider on THEIR servers, and I would not
> see their posts on my providers servers either.
> Face it, you're completely wrong here - you might want to chat with
> one
> of the old Usenet admins, the ones before they farmed support for it
> out, and they would explain it to you.

Thank you, I have my *own* old newsserver admin. There is, and never
has been, an "Usenet admin" :)

-jen(not a name, therefore not capitalized )
 
In article <e0C$S8jqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
says...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.22813e39be8314ae98976d@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article <urYpcghqIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> > says...
> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.227fc1e0cc0d46598975d@adfree.usenet.com...
> >> > In article <OEL3YETqIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> >> > says...
> >> >> I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it
> >> >> up).
> >> >> Microsoft
> >> >> does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore
> >> >> Microsoft
> >> >> *is
> >> >> not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
> >> >> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when
> >> >> you
> >> >> can comprehend simple logic )
> >> > Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.
> >> > You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly
> >> > don't
> >> > understand how it works.
> >> You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for
> >> msnews.microsoft.com to be *a part of Usenet*, they *have* to *PEER*
> >> with other newsservers. Microsoft does *NOT* peer with *any* other
> >> newsservers*, therefore msnews.microsoft.com *is not* a part of
> >> Usenet.
> >> They simply make their *.public.* groups "available to anyone *ON*
> >> the
> >> Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public.* hierarchy).
> >> If you can *prove* otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" )
> \> Jen, you just don't seem to understand, MS is peering or they would
> not
> > show my posts to my Usenet provider on THEIR servers, and I would not
> > see their posts on my providers servers either.
> > Face it, you're completely wrong here - you might want to chat with
> > one
> > of the old Usenet admins, the ones before they farmed support for it
> > out, and they would explain it to you.
>
> Thank you, I have my *own* old newsserver admin. There is, and never
> has been, an "Usenet admin" :)

The usenet servers all over the world have admins that run them, they
are their own kingdoms and they control them. In the old days we use to
cancel ot post and stuff that we didn't like in chartered groups, today
it's mostly let run loose.

MS had Usenet server admins, several of them, and they run a Usenet
server that peers with others, that's how your provider gets the info.

You are right, technically, there is not SINGLE Usenet admin, but each
server or farm has admins that control their own servers, so, at their
location there is a Usenet Admin.

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Leythos said 'this is usenet' in response to your post found
on the server (he?) uses. You said "no it isn't", in response
to a post from (him?) on the server you use.

By the glossary entries on the very URL you yourself provided
to substantiate your claim, I posted excerpts from your message
header to show that it was indeed a usenet post - using MS's
own glossary entries.

Actually, I don't give a crap one way or the other. Discussions
like this bring about some interesting reading when URL's are
actually investigated though.

> I never said "this is not Usenet"(whatever that means to you :) I
> merely stated msnews.microsoft.com
> is *not* a *part of Usenet* due to the fact they do not PEER with any
> other newsservers.

Sure, that's what you say *now*, but your posted usenet article :oP
indicates otherwise.

Anyway, no more responses from me in this thread no matter how
much your next usenet post tries to egg me on.

:o)
 
In article <eJpSXxlqIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com
says...
> Anyway, no more responses from me in this thread no matter how
> much your next usenet post tries to egg me on.
>

I agree and should not have let myself be trolled like that.

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