RE: 10 Things I Hate About Vista

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"Gordon" wrote:

> "Moonlight" <Moonlight@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:37917AE3-072C-4854-8284-C3C9AB72708D@microsoft.com...
> > Top 15 things I hate about Vista
> >
> > 1 - My printer was not supported, even though it came with my PC, when I
> > bought it. So I had to download a vista compatible driver, & now the
> > printer
> > may or may not work, when you need it. Same my scanner & tablet. (This is
> > EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!)

>
> My eight-year old printer works fine after installing the Vista driver - did
> you research this before you bought Vista?


>Yes!
>
> >
> > 2 - It keeps giving dialog boxes that says "USB device not recognized"
> > even
> > though my printer, tablet, ect. has been loaded with the correct drivers,
> > that I had to download, because they didn't come with the devices. It also
> > occasionally says the device "is not" installed, when it decides to work,
> > & I
> > can go open then the printers/other devices folder & it is there. (This is
> > EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!)

>
> Did you research the hardware compatibility first?


> Again, YES!
>
> > 3 - It commonly drops my internet connection, which I cannot get
> > back without rebooting. I never had to reboot to reconnect with XP. (This
> > is
> > EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

>
> Doesn't do that here.....
>
> Well it does here, on every comp we have, & if you'll read above messages, others have the same problem!
>
> > 4 - When I connect my digital camera, or music player, Vista
> > automatically
> > opens a folder & starts downloading everything that's on them, even when I
> > don't want it too. (This is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

>
> Have you set the Autoplay option that comes up? Obviously not.
>
> Autoplay doesn't come up & if it did there's no option on it to make it stop doing that!
>
> > 5 - Dialog boxes keep popping up, even after I click "do not show me this
> > message again" (This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!)

>
> WHAT "dialog boxes"?
>
>
> I can't list them all. Others have this same prpblem if you read the other posts!
>
> > 6 - My hard drive seems to be in use continuously, even when the system is
> > idle. WHY?

>
> Don't know - have you looked at Process Manager to find out? (Sheeeesh)
>
>
> Yes I have, it says nothing's running except "hidden" programs, but, then you can'y unhide them or find out what they are.
>
> > 7 - Whenever I go to troubleshoot why a device or program isn't wanting to
> > work, it says it's "working properly" according to device manager, but
> > they
> > don't
> > work at all or might work 5 minutes later & it seems to "pick" what
> > program
> > it wants to work with. (I. E. If it works it might work with word pad 1
> > minute then 5 minutes later it might not & work with notepad then) (This
> > is
> > EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

>
> <sigh> I presume you upgraded from XP to Vista.......
>
>No I didn't upgrade to Vista, as a choice. My old comp died, & needed a new motherboard, & there wasn't any new comps that I could buy that DID NOT have Vista on them!
>
> > 8 - Vista keeps telling me that it's "blocked some startup programs" but
> > won't let me unblock these programs manually. It also won't let me
> > suppress
> > or ignore this message, it keeps popping up! (This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!)

>
> Doesn't happen here........
>
> Well it does here, on every comp we have, & if you'll read above messages, others have the same problem!
>
> > 9 - I keep getting program error messages, that MS doesn't have any
> > solutions to fix them. (This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!)
> >

>
> WHAT "program error messages"?
>
> Like a message saying "Internet explore has encountered a problem & needs to shut down" & so on.
>
> > 10 - I can't open more than one window/tab/ect. on my browsers or
> > messenger
> > without them closing or messing up. (This is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING &
> > ANNOYING!)

>
> And have you posted this in the relevant news group?
>
> No I posted it here, because it is relevant to this list!
>
> > 11 - I can be in the middle of working on something & the monitor goes off
> > then comes back on & a dialog box/bubble pops up & says "The display
> > driver
> > failed, & has recovered" & it does this, I'd say 30-50 time in a day.
> > When
> > the display driver is up to date & Vista compatible. (This is EXTREMELY
> > ANNOYING! Because when the monitor comes back on I most likly have a
> > messed
> > up art piece or document!)

>
> Sounds like a video card problem - did you research this before buying?
>
> It's not my video card, because it's been doing this since the day I took the comp out of the box.
>
> > 12 - It puts downloads & scanned things into whatever folder it wants to,
> > even though, I've set the folders that I want them to go to. (This is
> > EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING! Because then I have to search for them!)

>
> RUBBISH! I have NEVER known ANY OS (whether Windows, Linux or Unix) put
> downloads into any folder other than the one you tell it to....
>
> Well it does!
>
> > 13 - It may or may not, run games, art programs, ect. when you need them
> > to,
> > or they might not work properly, even though they are Vista compatible.
> > (This
> > is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

>
> Oh dear, so sad.
>
> I need those things to run & run correctly, I used them everyday, sometimes the art programs are in use for hours! I have a lot of art work, that needs to get done & to those that ordered it. So these things need to work.
>
> > 14 - It's hard to find compatible security, other softwares, games, or
> > devices that are deemed "compatible" with Vista. (This is EXTREMELY
> > FRUSTRATING!)

>
> Rubbish.
>
> It's hard to find them when you live where I do.
>
> > 15 - It may or may not read burned CDs, USB, devices, or flash drives.
> > with
> > files, music, photos, ect. saved on older windows versions. (This is
> > EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!)

>
> That happens with ANY OS if the CD is not finalised - NEVER in my experience
> with any other sort of removable media.
>
> Funny that's never happened to me before on anyother comp or OS, until Vista!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > The bad thing is, in 2007 "ALL NEW PCS, MACS, ect." comes with some form
> > of
> > Vista on them & I was unfortunate enough to have to get 1 new PC at that
> > time. I had to have a new PC, I was missing out on a lot of waiting art
> > projects.

>
> Ummm Macs do NOT come with Vista......
>
> I thought they did. I heard they did anyhow.
>
> > MS if you read this, VISTA SUCKS! You should send out XP on ALL new PCs,
> > MACS, ect. with the option of an upgrade to Vista. Not just put it on
> > there &
> > expect it to work right & people love it! It's so full of glitches, &
> > messes
> > up hardware, software, ect.

>
> I suggest you pack up your machine in the box it came in, return it to the
> place you bought it, and ask the nice man to swap it for a Gameboy....
>
> No! I want to know how to fix these glitches? & a Gameboy, will not help, because I'd still not be able to get my art work up & to those that I owe it to, or anything else.
>
>
>I came here looking for help, but, instead I get sarcastic remarks, & put downs from a bunch of Morons!
>
>I like sarcasm, but, only when it's actually funny! Not mean, or rude!
>
>I thought this was supposed to be a help discussion board!
>
>
>Now if there's anyone on here that is nice enough to give a hulpfull word, then please do!
>
 
"Moonlight" <Moonlight@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>I came here looking for help, but, instead I get sarcastic remarks, & put
>>downs from a bunch of Morons!
>>


Would you like to re-post from your original, where you actually asked for
HELP on a SPECIFIC problem, rather than just a general rant? Because I
didn't see any specific questions at ALL.
 
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 22:48:08 +0100, "Gordon"
<gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>"Moonlight" <Moonlight@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:AC926232-8917-466E-AB97-65013E31ACFD@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>I came here looking for help, but, instead I get sarcastic remarks, & put
>>>downs from a bunch of Morons!
>>>

>
>Would you like to re-post from your original, where you actually asked for
>HELP on a SPECIFIC problem, rather than just a general rant? Because I
>didn't see any specific questions at ALL.


Here's what I see:

Another fanboy whining like a little girl about things someone pointed
out about Vista.
 
"Robert Barnett" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:8EBF99BA-7FE5-4958-87B0-9F79FEC545A7@microsoft.com...
> Here are my top 10 hates...
>
> 1. Windows Vista

Then dump it!
> 2. UAC

Protects from malware being installed without your knowledge. How many times
a day does this annoyance bother you. I may see it once a week. Big Deal!
> 3. Can't undock start bar tool bars like Quick Launch.

Sure you can. Right-click on the tool bar, choose Properties, click on the
Toolbars tab. Uncheck Quick Launch
> 4. Insists on showing media related columns in Details views in dialog
> boxes and Windows Explorer even after choosing a different view and
> telling Windows to use that from now on.
> 5. The new programs group listing on the start menu. XP was way better and
> more attractive.

You can change it! Right-click on the tool bar, choose Properties, click on
the Start Menu tab, check in front of Classic Start menu. Other options are
available in Customize.
> 6. The extra stuff you were supposed to get with Vista Ultimate turned out
> to be a joke and a major rip-off. Support for other languages is not a
> good bonus feature.

Obviously you haven't used the system enough to appreciate the many
funcations.
> 7. Vista still doesn't write data to hard drives in a non-fragmented way.
> The disk defragmenter utility is now even lamer than before and just as
> slow.

The disk defragmenter runs in the background and is never noticed.
Obviously you don't have it set to do that.
> 8. The disk management tool for partitioning and formatting hard drives is
> really poor and doesn't proved feedback on how far along in the format
> process you are.
> 9. Internet Explorer 7 is total animal droppings.

IE7 was on XP also, or didn't you notice. You might try Netscape, Opera,
Firefox, Avant, Flock or even Apple Safari for Windows.
> 10. UAC

I believe this is a duplicate of #2 in this meaningless rant.
 
"Moonlight" <Moonlight@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:37917AE3-072C-4854-8284-C3C9AB72708D@microsoft.com...
> 3 - It commonly drops my internet connection, which I cannot get
> back without rebooting. I never had to reboot to reconnect with XP.


This seems like some extremely bogus networking drivers on your system.

> 8 - Vista keeps telling me that it's "blocked some startup programs" but
> won't let me unblock these programs manually. It also won't let me
> suppress
> or ignore this message, it keeps popping up!


You would either want to get a Vista-compatible version of that application
or disable that application. You could potentially turn off UAC to work
around this too, but -- that startup program needing administrative
privileges is a little unusual.

> 9 - I keep getting program error messages, that MS doesn't have any
> solutions to fix them.


This is the reason I responded -- *what* exact program error messages--
http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#bucket
-- according to the Problem Reports and Solutions Center control panel?

I might be able to provide some more guidance on those, since some crashes
are pretty straight-forward....

> 11 - I can be in the middle of working on something & the monitor goes off
> then comes back on & a dialog box/bubble pops up & says "The display
> driver
> failed, & has recovered" & it does this, I'd say 30-50 time in a day.
> When
> the display driver is up to date & Vista compatible.


Up to date from the vendor's web site or from Windows Update? Windows
Update typically has at least kernel-level working drivers (shouldn't blue
screen), but if the vendor has user-level issues/errors, those might be
fixed in an update on the vendor's site. If not, that potentially sounds
like bogus hardware.

-Zach
--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
 
"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:

>
> "Moonlight" <Moonlight@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:37917AE3-072C-4854-8284-C3C9AB72708D@microsoft.com...
> > 3 - It commonly drops my internet connection, which I cannot get
> > back without rebooting. I never had to reboot to reconnect with XP.

>
> This seems like some extremely bogus networking drivers on your system.
>
> This issue doesn't bother me as much as some of the others now.
>
> > 8 - Vista keeps telling me that it's "blocked some startup programs" but
> > won't let me unblock these programs manually. It also won't let me
> > suppress
> > or ignore this message, it keeps popping up!

>
> You would either want to get a Vista-compatible version of that application
> or disable that application. You could potentially turn off UAC to work
> around this too, but -- that startup program needing administrative
> privileges is a little unusual.
>
> I'm not sure on how to do that? Or what startup programs are involved.
>
> > 9 - I keep getting program error messages, that MS doesn't have any
> > solutions to fix them.

>
> This is the reason I responded -- *what* exact program error messages--
> http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#bucket
> -- according to the Problem Reports and Solutions Center control panel?
>
> I might be able to provide some more guidance on those, since some crashes
> are pretty straight-forward....
>
> Some of the messages I get are after I try to use hardware that doesn't want to work or after programs shut down for no reason.
>
> I click "send report" button, but, then it says "can not be sent"
>
> > 11 - I can be in the middle of working on something & the monitor goes off
> > then comes back on & a dialog box/bubble pops up & says "The display
> > driver
> > failed, & has recovered" & it does this, I'd say 30-50 time in a day.
> > When
> > the display driver is up to date & Vista compatible.

>
> It supposedly is Vista compatable, as for the vender, It's an HP montieor vp15, & a compaq desktop SR5030NX, & an HP printer A Deskjet F380 All-In-One. (This is the device I need to be working the most! THat & the montior bugs me the most. Out of all the glitches.)
>
> Up to date from the vendor's web site or from Windows Update? Windows
> Update typically has at least kernel-level working drivers (shouldn't blue
> screen), but if the vendor has user-level issues/errors, those might be
> fixed in an update on the vendor's site. If not, that potentially sounds
> like bogus hardware.
>
> -Zach
> --
> Speaking for myself only.
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> --
>
> get updates through windows update, everyday, but, I don't usually check the vender's site, because it takes ages to download things, & I never can find the right page.


I'm not sure if this is enough info, but, I hope some of it helps?
 
I think I'm going to just go buy XP & drop Vista. Because it's take me 2 days
or more to downloaded patches & drivers. I know my printer's driver takes 24
hours, because this would be the 3 rd time I've had to redownload it, & Vista
will not let me delete or uninstall the printer before reinstalling it.
 
"Moonlight" <Moonlight@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:360DFB8C-51A9-47C2-828C-5C48512EF7AC@microsoft.com...
> "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


>> "Moonlight" <Moonlight@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:37917AE3-072C-4854-8284-C3C9AB72708D@microsoft.com...
>> > 3 - It commonly drops my internet connection, which I cannot get
>> > back without rebooting. I never had to reboot to reconnect with XP.

>>
>> This seems like some extremely bogus networking drivers on your system.
>>
>> This issue doesn't bother me as much as some of the others now.


It definitely bothers me, though. That's a component not performing well,
and any failure really doesn't fly - and potentially contributes to other
issues. =\

>> > 8 - Vista keeps telling me that it's "blocked some startup programs"
>> > but
>> > won't let me unblock these programs manually. It also won't let me
>> > suppress
>> > or ignore this message, it keeps popping up!

>>
>> You would either want to get a Vista-compatible version of that
>> application
>> or disable that application. You could potentially turn off UAC to work
>> around this too, but -- that startup program needing administrative
>> privileges is a little unusual.


>> I'm not sure on how to do that? Or what startup programs are involved.


You can click on that tool that's alerting you to this in order to get that
list. =)

>> > 9 - I keep getting program error messages, that MS doesn't have any
>> > solutions to fix them.

>>
>> This is the reason I responded -- *what* exact program error messages--
>> http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#bucket
>> -- according to the Problem Reports and Solutions Center control panel?
>>
>> I might be able to provide some more guidance on those, since some
>> crashes
>> are pretty straight-forward....

>
>> Some of the messages I get are after I try to use hardware that doesn't
>> want to work or after programs shut down for no reason.


>> I click "send report" button, but, then it says "can not be sent"


That's fascinating and may be part of other problems.

The data by itself from that control panel would still be illuminative
regardless. =\

>> > 11 - I can be in the middle of working on something & the monitor goes
>> > off
>> > then comes back on & a dialog box/bubble pops up & says "The display
>> > driver
>> > failed, & has recovered" & it does this, I'd say 30-50 time in a day.
>> > When
>> > the display driver is up to date & Vista compatible.

>>

> It supposedly is Vista compatable, as for the vender, It's an HP montieor
> vp15, & a compaq desktop SR5030NX, & an HP printer A Deskjet
> F380 All-In-One. (This is the device I need to be working the most!
> THat & the montior bugs me the most. Out of all the glitches.)


I can definitely understand that - the last one I would know nothing about,
but HP support would probably be most effective on.

I saw the other post - it looks like your hardware has some subpar drivers,
and I hope that your change gets those working again. The crash data would
be interesting regardless, but I would suspect it would point to some
outdated or broken driver upon your system. I don't know how your printer's
driver takes 24 hours to download, but that sounds pretty stunning to me. I
generally make sure to build an "Install Packages" folder that I download
all the things I need to update on my system so I'm sure they're available
later without redownload. But if you've already been redownloading the
driver, that sounds like you're banging your head against the wall and that
you're running into a bug that would not be resolved by reinstalling
repeatedly. That's the time at which you need to use actual customer
support, as self-service really hasn't been getting you very far. =\

-Zach
--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
 
As for...

> 5. The new programs group listing on the start menu. XP was way better and
> more attractive.

You can change it! Right-click on the tool bar, choose Properties, click on
the Start Menu tab, check in front of Classic Start menu. Other options are
available in Customize.


Unfortunately, that is the pre-xp interface which is just ugly. Why on earth
they didn't do the XP look instead is just another indication that Microsoft
has no clue.

As for my "meaningless rant" this entire thread is a meaningless rant. There
is a lot to rant about when it comes to Vista. If you can't see then they
pull your meaningless head out of your meaningless ass.

Robert
 
"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:21:03 -0700, "Robert Barnett"
> <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>As for my "meaningless rant" this entire thread is a meaningless rant.
>>There
>>is a lot to rant about when it comes to Vista. If you can't see then
>>pull your meaningless head out of your meaningless ass.

>
> Good advice, but fanboys never listen. <snicker>


Nor acknowledge Vista's obvious defects in network and disk (lack of) speed.
Which is a fact. Sort of reminds me of the first episode of Star Trek.
Where they had never seen a human before, so they put her back together the
best they could. Vista is like this. Untrained new people developed Vista,
or so it seems.

Fanboys, well they are pied piper sheep. Let them follow M$ into a third
rate bit player. Will take years to happen, but it is now swinging in that
direction unless M$ can fix their attitude and broken Vista OS.
 
Canuck57 wrote:

-----------------------------

Two MS/Vista haters (re: losers) like you and mr drunken pig should get
room and not embarrass yourselves in public any longer.
Frank
 
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