on triple boot, vista xp and ubuntu.. guess which one is the slowest?

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non flammable on Vista

Vista sucks up system resources like a big fat hog thats been starved for a
month!

performance drops about 100% compared to XP and 150% compared to Ubuntu....

Not a linux zelot... but after comparing the three, ubuntu has the best
multitasking and memory handeling I have ever seen... you can be running
many many stuff and nothing gets bogged down at all!!! I am talking about
huge programs, for example running a virtual machine.. Try doing the same
amount tasks with vista and it will crumble to a crawl!

Vista: better memory managment? LOL MY FOOT has better memory managment!
 
Then there is something wrong with your PC...more likely a defect with the
operator.
I have ubuntu, XP, and Vista.
Vista is the most stable of the 3, then XP, then ubuntu (but I am new at
ubuntu, playing with Xsettings)
ubuntu is skimpy with the memory....it's never used more than 240MB, never
even touched the swap partition.
ubuntu also seems to put resourses to "sleep" until needed.
If your PC has 2GB of RAM....why not use it?

" non flammable on Vista" <not@say.here> wrote in message
news:47807a22@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> Vista sucks up system resources like a big fat hog thats been starved for
> a month!
>
> performance drops about 100% compared to XP and 150% compared to
> Ubuntu....
>
> Not a linux zelot... but after comparing the three, ubuntu has the best
> multitasking and memory handeling I have ever seen... you can be running
> many many stuff and nothing gets bogged down at all!!! I am talking about
> huge programs, for example running a virtual machine.. Try doing the same
> amount tasks with vista and it will crumble to a crawl!
>
> Vista: better memory managment? LOL MY FOOT has better memory managment!
>
>
>
>
 
I use vm's a lot. I use both Vista x86 and Vista x64 with VPC 2007 and
Ubuntu with VMWare Server. I prefer Vista x64 with VPC 2007 for most tasks.
Oddly enough VPC seems to work better with Windows guests and VMWare works
best with Linux guests. As far as speed goes I don't see any noticeable
difference between Vista x64 and Ubuntu when using vm's. I do see a
difference when using Vista x86 with VPC 2007 but that computer has a slower
CPU and only 2 GB of RAM.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



" non flammable on Vista" <not@say.here> wrote in message
news:47807a22@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> Vista sucks up system resources like a big fat hog thats been starved for
> a month!
>
> performance drops about 100% compared to XP and 150% compared to
> Ubuntu....
>
> Not a linux zelot... but after comparing the three, ubuntu has the best
> multitasking and memory handeling I have ever seen... you can be running
> many many stuff and nothing gets bogged down at all!!! I am talking about
> huge programs, for example running a virtual machine.. Try doing the same
> amount tasks with vista and it will crumble to a crawl!
>
> Vista: better memory managment? LOL MY FOOT has better memory managment!
>
>
>
>
 
you are stupid.. add the frikin resource meter on the panel of ubuntu and
set it to show the ram as well as the other things.. after a wile hover your
mouse over that little graph and see the magic! Here it caches all the ram!
its full... and its FAST!

You will see that its using the ram almost 100% after some time as cached
stuff

if ubuntu is not running for you, well something is wrong with your
computer...


illiterate smarty pants! Vista is the worse modern OS by far!



"forty-nine" <110001@49.xyz> wrote in message news:flqoc3$8pm$1@aioe.org...
> Then there is something wrong with your PC...more likely a defect with the
> operator.
> I have ubuntu, XP, and Vista.
> Vista is the most stable of the 3, then XP, then ubuntu (but I am new at
> ubuntu, playing with Xsettings)
> ubuntu is skimpy with the memory....it's never used more than 240MB, never
> even touched the swap partition.
> ubuntu also seems to put resourses to "sleep" until needed.
> If your PC has 2GB of RAM....why not use it?
>
> " non flammable on Vista" <not@say.here> wrote in message
> news:47807a22@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> Vista sucks up system resources like a big fat hog thats been starved for
>> a month!
>>
>> performance drops about 100% compared to XP and 150% compared to
>> Ubuntu....
>>
>> Not a linux zelot... but after comparing the three, ubuntu has the best
>> multitasking and memory handeling I have ever seen... you can be running
>> many many stuff and nothing gets bogged down at all!!! I am talking about
>> huge programs, for example running a virtual machine.. Try doing the same
>> amount tasks with vista and it will crumble to a crawl!
>>
>> Vista: better memory managment? LOL MY FOOT has better memory managment!
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
 
" non flammable on XP" <not@say.here> wrote in message
news:47810f9e$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> you are stupid.. add the frikin resource meter on the panel of ubuntu and
> set it to show the ram as well as the other things.. after a wile hover
> your mouse over that little graph and see the magic! Here it caches all
> the ram! its full... and its FAST!
>
> You will see that its using the ram almost 100% after some time as cached
> stuff
>
> if ubuntu is not running for you, well something is wrong with your
> computer...
>
>
> illiterate smarty pants! Vista is the worse modern OS by far!
>
>
>


WTF are you talking about ?
I never said ubuntu doesn't run...It runs reasonably well.
 
>ubuntu is skimpy with the memory....it's never used more than 240MB, never
>even touched the swap partition.


this is incorrect.. and you are so used to vista thrashing your disks all
the time that you wonder why an OS is running so smoothly??? All that
thrashing you know uses CPU power to move data all the time... Vista has
been designed very badly from the structure to the interface..
everything about it is crap

Gesh... vistaboys irritate me

"forty-nine" <110001@49.xyz> wrote in message news:flr473$bgb$1@aioe.org...
>
> " non flammable on XP" <not@say.here> wrote in message
> news:47810f9e$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> you are stupid.. add the frikin resource meter on the panel of ubuntu and
>> set it to show the ram as well as the other things.. after a wile hover
>> your mouse over that little graph and see the magic! Here it caches all
>> the ram! its full... and its FAST!
>>
>> You will see that its using the ram almost 100% after some time as cached
>> stuff
>>
>> if ubuntu is not running for you, well something is wrong with your
>> computer...
>>
>>
>> illiterate smarty pants! Vista is the worse modern OS by far!
>>
>>
>>

>
> WTF are you talking about ?
> I never said ubuntu doesn't run...It runs reasonably well.
 
Re: on triple boot, vista xp and ubuntu.. guess which one is theslowest?

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:25:23 -0500, forty-nine wrote:

> Then there is something wrong with your PC...more likely a defect with
> the operator.
> I have ubuntu, XP, and Vista.
> Vista is the most stable of the 3, then XP, then ubuntu (but I am new at
> ubuntu, playing with Xsettings)
> ubuntu is skimpy with the memory....it's never used more than 240MB,
> never even touched the swap partition.
> ubuntu also seems to put resourses to "sleep" until needed. If your PC
> has 2GB of RAM....why not use it?


Actually it does, but you won't see that reflected in used memory. If you
really wanna see the actual memory usage including system cache, add the
system monitor applet to your top panel. Simply right click it, select
"Add to Panel", and then go find System Monitor.

You should then see a little small black window in the top bar. By
default I think it only shows CPU but you can access it's property and
add memory usage.

It will then show user memory (the 240mb you are referring to) as dark
green and it'll show the cache memory as light green. Both combined will
usually, over time, fill up nearly all available memory.

Since cache memory though does not take away from available memory for
applications, it is not reported as memory that is in-use.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
news:xqydnVvwyvj6ixzanZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:25:23 -0500, forty-nine wrote:
>
>> Then there is something wrong with your PC...more likely a defect with
>> the operator.
>> I have ubuntu, XP, and Vista.
>> Vista is the most stable of the 3, then XP, then ubuntu (but I am new at
>> ubuntu, playing with Xsettings)
>> ubuntu is skimpy with the memory....it's never used more than 240MB,
>> never even touched the swap partition.
>> ubuntu also seems to put resourses to "sleep" until needed. If your PC
>> has 2GB of RAM....why not use it?

>
> Actually it does, but you won't see that reflected in used memory. If you
> really wanna see the actual memory usage including system cache, add the
> system monitor applet to your top panel. Simply right click it, select
> "Add to Panel", and then go find System Monitor.
>
> You should then see a little small black window in the top bar. By
> default I think it only shows CPU but you can access it's property and
> add memory usage.
>
> It will then show user memory (the 240mb you are referring to) as dark
> green and it'll show the cache memory as light green. Both combined will
> usually, over time, fill up nearly all available memory.
>
> Since cache memory though does not take away from available memory for
> applications, it is not reported as memory that is in-use.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> å›ã®äº‹æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
> å›ã®äº‹å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰


I've used process monitor before...use the internet connection section as a
small panel (or applet ?) in the taskbar.
I personally have yet to see any vast improvement speed wise on any "normal
use" of the PC.
Vista runs quite well on my PC.
But with the graphic effects I have enabled on the Ubuntu desktop... I use
the Cube, true glass themes ( It's pretty cool that I can see completely
thru a terminal window)....it handles all those effects with no problem...so
ubuntu is no slouch either.
But the "one" is no better than the "other".
 
Re: on triple boot, vista xp and ubuntu.. guess which one is theslowest?

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:15:10 -0500, forty-nine wrote:

> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
> news:xqydnVvwyvj6ixzanZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:25:23 -0500, forty-nine wrote:
>>
>>> Then there is something wrong with your PC...more likely a defect with
>>> the operator.
>>> I have ubuntu, XP, and Vista.
>>> Vista is the most stable of the 3, then XP, then ubuntu (but I am new
>>> at ubuntu, playing with Xsettings)
>>> ubuntu is skimpy with the memory....it's never used more than 240MB,
>>> never even touched the swap partition. ubuntu also seems to put
>>> resourses to "sleep" until needed. If your PC has 2GB of RAM....why
>>> not use it?

>>
>> Actually it does, but you won't see that reflected in used memory. If
>> you really wanna see the actual memory usage including system cache,
>> add the system monitor applet to your top panel. Simply right click it,
>> select "Add to Panel", and then go find System Monitor.
>>
>> You should then see a little small black window in the top bar. By
>> default I think it only shows CPU but you can access it's property and
>> add memory usage.
>>
>> It will then show user memory (the 240mb you are referring to) as dark
>> green and it'll show the cache memory as light green. Both combined
>> will usually, over time, fill up nearly all available memory.
>>
>> Since cache memory though does not take away from available memory for
>> applications, it is not reported as memory that is in-use.
>>
>> --
>> Stephan
>> 2003 Yamaha R6
>>
>> å›ã®äº‹æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯ å›ã®äº‹å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

>
> I've used process monitor before...use the internet connection section
> as a small panel (or applet ?) in the taskbar. I personally have yet to
> see any vast improvement speed wise on any "normal use" of the PC.
> Vista runs quite well on my PC.
> But with the graphic effects I have enabled on the Ubuntu desktop... I
> use the Cube, true glass themes ( It's pretty cool that I can see
> completely thru a terminal window)....it handles all those effects with
> no problem...so ubuntu is no slouch either.
> But the "one" is no better than the "other".


Well Ubuntu isn't going to magically make the PC run faster, that is
ridiculous. Though for me it does have a few distinct advantages over
Vista.

One *major* problem I would have under Vista is that I watch DVDs from
multiple regions. This is a problem because the software I used under XP
to turn my PC into a region-free player does not have Vista support. I
can't say for a fact but I do suspect Vista's DRM technologies make this
impossible effectively rendering Vista useless to me to watch my DVDs.
Reason being, it's been a year now and that software still isn't
supported under Vista, there has to be a specific reason. I have a Plasma
TV connected to the video card for that purpose. Don't have that problem
under XP or Linux.

The other major advantage Linux offers me is for my software Development
when it comes to writing software for devices running linux. The
interfacing the device with my PC is absolutely seamless as I can just
use NFS shares to do so. Much easier than what I had to deal with under
Windows with WinCE.

Plus you know, the usual things...no Activation and genuine disadvantage
hassles. =)

But yea, I do agree that which one is "better" than the other is largely
going to depend on the user far more than anything else. That ultimately
is going to determine which is better. I do find that Linux scales much
better and adapts better to the hardware it runs on. I mean the linux
device I'm working on, 300MHz ARM based CPU, runs almost the same Kernel
my PC does. 2.6 series, just a few months older version. In that regard,
Microsoft has absolutely nothing comparable.

But still, the ultimate deciding factor is the user and the needs of that
user with some personal preference sprinkled on top.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

å›ã®äº‹æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
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" non flammable on XP" <not@say.here> wrote in message
news:47810f9e$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> you are stupid.. add the frikin resource meter on the panel of ubuntu and
> set it to show the ram as well as the other things.. after a wile hover
> your mouse over that little graph and see the magic! Here it caches all
> the ram! its full... and its FAST!
>
> You will see that its using the ram almost 100% after some time as cached
> stuff
>
> if ubuntu is not running for you, well something is wrong with your
> computer...
>
>
> illiterate smarty pants! Vista is the worse modern OS by far!
>
>

Congratulations. Now that you found an OS you like, why not go over to the
Linux newsgroups and try to help someone out over there instead of acting
like an immature and annoying little drone in a newsgroup that you have no
use for, and that has no use for you.

Buh-bye...

-Riff
 
"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
news:xqydnVTwyvjpgBzanZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:15:10 -0500, forty-nine wrote:
>
>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>> news:xqydnVvwyvj6ixzanZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:25:23 -0500, forty-nine wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then there is something wrong with your PC...more likely a defect with
>>>> the operator.
>>>> I have ubuntu, XP, and Vista.
>>>> Vista is the most stable of the 3, then XP, then ubuntu (but I am new
>>>> at ubuntu, playing with Xsettings)
>>>> ubuntu is skimpy with the memory....it's never used more than 240MB,
>>>> never even touched the swap partition. ubuntu also seems to put
>>>> resourses to "sleep" until needed. If your PC has 2GB of RAM....why
>>>> not use it?
>>>
>>> Actually it does, but you won't see that reflected in used memory. If
>>> you really wanna see the actual memory usage including system cache,
>>> add the system monitor applet to your top panel. Simply right click it,
>>> select "Add to Panel", and then go find System Monitor.
>>>
>>> You should then see a little small black window in the top bar. By
>>> default I think it only shows CPU but you can access it's property and
>>> add memory usage.
>>>
>>> It will then show user memory (the 240mb you are referring to) as dark
>>> green and it'll show the cache memory as light green. Both combined
>>> will usually, over time, fill up nearly all available memory.
>>>
>>> Since cache memory though does not take away from available memory for
>>> applications, it is not reported as memory that is in-use.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephan
>>> 2003 Yamaha R6
>>>
>>> å›ã®äº‹æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯ å›ã®äº‹å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

>>
>> I've used process monitor before...use the internet connection section
>> as a small panel (or applet ?) in the taskbar. I personally have yet to
>> see any vast improvement speed wise on any "normal use" of the PC.
>> Vista runs quite well on my PC.
>> But with the graphic effects I have enabled on the Ubuntu desktop... I
>> use the Cube, true glass themes ( It's pretty cool that I can see
>> completely thru a terminal window)....it handles all those effects with
>> no problem...so ubuntu is no slouch either.
>> But the "one" is no better than the "other".

>
> Well Ubuntu isn't going to magically make the PC run faster, that is
> ridiculous. Though for me it does have a few distinct advantages over
> Vista.
>
> One *major* problem I would have under Vista is that I watch DVDs from
> multiple regions. This is a problem because the software I used under XP
> to turn my PC into a region-free player does not have Vista support. I
> can't say for a fact but I do suspect Vista's DRM technologies make this
> impossible effectively rendering Vista useless to me to watch my DVDs.
> Reason being, it's been a year now and that software still isn't
> supported under Vista, there has to be a specific reason. I have a Plasma
> TV connected to the video card for that purpose. Don't have that problem
> under XP or Linux.
>
> The other major advantage Linux offers me is for my software Development
> when it comes to writing software for devices running linux. The
> interfacing the device with my PC is absolutely seamless as I can just
> use NFS shares to do so. Much easier than what I had to deal with under
> Windows with WinCE.
>
> Plus you know, the usual things...no Activation and genuine disadvantage
> hassles. =)
>
> But yea, I do agree that which one is "better" than the other is largely
> going to depend on the user far more than anything else. That ultimately
> is going to determine which is better. I do find that Linux scales much
> better and adapts better to the hardware it runs on. I mean the linux
> device I'm working on, 300MHz ARM based CPU, runs almost the same Kernel
> my PC does. 2.6 series, just a few months older version. In that regard,
> Microsoft has absolutely nothing comparable.
>
> But still, the ultimate deciding factor is the user and the needs of that
> user with some personal preference sprinkled on top.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> å›ã®äº‹æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
> å›ã®äº‹å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰


Absolutely....You have an actual reason to prefer Linux over Windows...not
just some insane, demented rage aimed at Microsoft.
I used to hate Linux...because I could never get it installed on enough
hardware to give it a reasonable try.
Ubuntu gave me some initial trouble...mostly due to my lake of knowledge
with the linux terminal, and understanding permissions and device setup.
But it is the first, successful Linux install ever for me...and its now on 2
PC's.
So, you gotta give applause to the Ubuntu people for getting a decent OS for
newbie's .
My wife is using it quite a bit...and for 4 days it was all I used.
It's always good to have options.
 
Microsoft knows they blundered big time with vista but they are silent..

vista turned out just to be another bad windows Me edition..

now they are working on a a more compact version of the windows kernel
called
minWin

see here http://reddevnews.com/news/article.aspx?editorialsid=9172

and here

http://geekswithblogs.net/WallabyFa...coming-after-the-Vista-mega-monster-Lets.aspx

Mega monster is an understatment.. Vista stinks big time

"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
news:xqydnVTwyvjpgBzanZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:15:10 -0500, forty-nine wrote:
>
>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>> news:xqydnVvwyvj6ixzanZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:25:23 -0500, forty-nine wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then there is something wrong with your PC...more likely a defect with
>>>> the operator.
>>>> I have ubuntu, XP, and Vista.
>>>> Vista is the most stable of the 3, then XP, then ubuntu (but I am new
>>>> at ubuntu, playing with Xsettings)
>>>> ubuntu is skimpy with the memory....it's never used more than 240MB,
>>>> never even touched the swap partition. ubuntu also seems to put
>>>> resourses to "sleep" until needed. If your PC has 2GB of RAM....why
>>>> not use it?
>>>
>>> Actually it does, but you won't see that reflected in used memory. If
>>> you really wanna see the actual memory usage including system cache,
>>> add the system monitor applet to your top panel. Simply right click it,
>>> select "Add to Panel", and then go find System Monitor.
>>>
>>> You should then see a little small black window in the top bar. By
>>> default I think it only shows CPU but you can access it's property and
>>> add memory usage.
>>>
>>> It will then show user memory (the 240mb you are referring to) as dark
>>> green and it'll show the cache memory as light green. Both combined
>>> will usually, over time, fill up nearly all available memory.
>>>
>>> Since cache memory though does not take away from available memory for
>>> applications, it is not reported as memory that is in-use.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephan
>>> 2003 Yamaha R6
>>>
>>> ??????????????? ?????????????

>>
>> I've used process monitor before...use the internet connection section
>> as a small panel (or applet ?) in the taskbar. I personally have yet to
>> see any vast improvement speed wise on any "normal use" of the PC.
>> Vista runs quite well on my PC.
>> But with the graphic effects I have enabled on the Ubuntu desktop... I
>> use the Cube, true glass themes ( It's pretty cool that I can see
>> completely thru a terminal window)....it handles all those effects with
>> no problem...so ubuntu is no slouch either.
>> But the "one" is no better than the "other".

>
> Well Ubuntu isn't going to magically make the PC run faster, that is
> ridiculous. Though for me it does have a few distinct advantages over
> Vista.
>
> One *major* problem I would have under Vista is that I watch DVDs from
> multiple regions. This is a problem because the software I used under XP
> to turn my PC into a region-free player does not have Vista support. I
> can't say for a fact but I do suspect Vista's DRM technologies make this
> impossible effectively rendering Vista useless to me to watch my DVDs.
> Reason being, it's been a year now and that software still isn't
> supported under Vista, there has to be a specific reason. I have a Plasma
> TV connected to the video card for that purpose. Don't have that problem
> under XP or Linux.
>
> The other major advantage Linux offers me is for my software Development
> when it comes to writing software for devices running linux. The
> interfacing the device with my PC is absolutely seamless as I can just
> use NFS shares to do so. Much easier than what I had to deal with under
> Windows with WinCE.
>
> Plus you know, the usual things...no Activation and genuine disadvantage
> hassles. =)
>
> But yea, I do agree that which one is "better" than the other is largely
> going to depend on the user far more than anything else. That ultimately
> is going to determine which is better. I do find that Linux scales much
> better and adapts better to the hardware it runs on. I mean the linux
> device I'm working on, 300MHz ARM based CPU, runs almost the same Kernel
> my PC does. 2.6 series, just a few months older version. In that regard,
> Microsoft has absolutely nothing comparable.
>
> But still, the ultimate deciding factor is the user and the needs of that
> user with some personal preference sprinkled on top.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> ???????????????
> ?????????????
 
im on XP now and love it, there is no rage for microsoft.. there is rage
over Vista
that is a pile of crap that would put mount everest to shame!


"forty-nine" <110001@49.xyz> wrote in message news:flr84q$nah$1@aioe.org...
>
> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
> news:xqydnVTwyvjpgBzanZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:15:10 -0500, forty-nine wrote:
>>
>>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>>> news:xqydnVvwyvj6ixzanZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:25:23 -0500, forty-nine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Then there is something wrong with your PC...more likely a defect with
>>>>> the operator.
>>>>> I have ubuntu, XP, and Vista.
>>>>> Vista is the most stable of the 3, then XP, then ubuntu (but I am new
>>>>> at ubuntu, playing with Xsettings)
>>>>> ubuntu is skimpy with the memory....it's never used more than 240MB,
>>>>> never even touched the swap partition. ubuntu also seems to put
>>>>> resourses to "sleep" until needed. If your PC has 2GB of RAM....why
>>>>> not use it?
>>>>
>>>> Actually it does, but you won't see that reflected in used memory. If
>>>> you really wanna see the actual memory usage including system cache,
>>>> add the system monitor applet to your top panel. Simply right click it,
>>>> select "Add to Panel", and then go find System Monitor.
>>>>
>>>> You should then see a little small black window in the top bar. By
>>>> default I think it only shows CPU but you can access it's property and
>>>> add memory usage.
>>>>
>>>> It will then show user memory (the 240mb you are referring to) as dark
>>>> green and it'll show the cache memory as light green. Both combined
>>>> will usually, over time, fill up nearly all available memory.
>>>>
>>>> Since cache memory though does not take away from available memory for
>>>> applications, it is not reported as memory that is in-use.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Stephan
>>>> 2003 Yamaha R6
>>>>
>>>> ??????????????? ?????????????
>>>
>>> I've used process monitor before...use the internet connection section
>>> as a small panel (or applet ?) in the taskbar. I personally have yet to
>>> see any vast improvement speed wise on any "normal use" of the PC.
>>> Vista runs quite well on my PC.
>>> But with the graphic effects I have enabled on the Ubuntu desktop... I
>>> use the Cube, true glass themes ( It's pretty cool that I can see
>>> completely thru a terminal window)....it handles all those effects with
>>> no problem...so ubuntu is no slouch either.
>>> But the "one" is no better than the "other".

>>
>> Well Ubuntu isn't going to magically make the PC run faster, that is
>> ridiculous. Though for me it does have a few distinct advantages over
>> Vista.
>>
>> One *major* problem I would have under Vista is that I watch DVDs from
>> multiple regions. This is a problem because the software I used under XP
>> to turn my PC into a region-free player does not have Vista support. I
>> can't say for a fact but I do suspect Vista's DRM technologies make this
>> impossible effectively rendering Vista useless to me to watch my DVDs.
>> Reason being, it's been a year now and that software still isn't
>> supported under Vista, there has to be a specific reason. I have a Plasma
>> TV connected to the video card for that purpose. Don't have that problem
>> under XP or Linux.
>>
>> The other major advantage Linux offers me is for my software Development
>> when it comes to writing software for devices running linux. The
>> interfacing the device with my PC is absolutely seamless as I can just
>> use NFS shares to do so. Much easier than what I had to deal with under
>> Windows with WinCE.
>>
>> Plus you know, the usual things...no Activation and genuine disadvantage
>> hassles. =)
>>
>> But yea, I do agree that which one is "better" than the other is largely
>> going to depend on the user far more than anything else. That ultimately
>> is going to determine which is better. I do find that Linux scales much
>> better and adapts better to the hardware it runs on. I mean the linux
>> device I'm working on, 300MHz ARM based CPU, runs almost the same Kernel
>> my PC does. 2.6 series, just a few months older version. In that regard,
>> Microsoft has absolutely nothing comparable.
>>
>> But still, the ultimate deciding factor is the user and the needs of that
>> user with some personal preference sprinkled on top.
>>
>> --
>> Stephan
>> 2003 Yamaha R6
>>
>> ???????????????
>> ?????????????

>
> Absolutely....You have an actual reason to prefer Linux over Windows...not
> just some insane, demented rage aimed at Microsoft.
> I used to hate Linux...because I could never get it installed on enough
> hardware to give it a reasonable try.
> Ubuntu gave me some initial trouble...mostly due to my lake of knowledge
> with the linux terminal, and understanding permissions and device setup.
> But it is the first, successful Linux install ever for me...and its now on
> 2 PC's.
> So, you gotta give applause to the Ubuntu people for getting a decent OS
> for newbie's .
> My wife is using it quite a bit...and for 4 days it was all I used.
> It's always good to have options.
 
Re: on triple boot, vista xp and ubuntu.. guess which one is theslowest?

non flammable on XP wrote:

....undoubtedly one of his most uninformed, stupid responses yet!
Hahaha...hey capin' crunch...Vista beats you every time doesn't it?
You're a real loser.
Frank
 
Re: on triple boot, vista xp and ubuntu.. guess which one is theslowest?

non flammable on XP wrote:

....something that only a fukkin idiot like him would write!
Hey you moron...you should actually install (if you can afford to
purchase it) and use Vista if you really want to intelligently discuss
it. Something I'm sure you are not capable of doing.
Frank
 
Re: on triple boot, vista xp and ubuntu.. guess which one is theslowest?

non flammable on XP wrote:
> im on XP now and love it, there is no rage for microsoft.. there is rage
> over Vista
> that is a pile of crap that would put mount everest to shame!
>
>


I'm in Ubuntu now.
Ain't lovin' it ... that's what women* are for !

*disclaimer---not sexist, I just happen to be a heterosexual male.
 
Re: on triple boot, vista xp and ubuntu.. guess which one is theslowest?

forty-nine wrote:
> Then there is something wrong with your PC...more likely a defect with
> the operator.
> I have ubuntu, XP, and Vista.
> Vista is the most stable of the 3, then XP, then ubuntu (but I am new at
> ubuntu, playing with Xsettings)
> ubuntu is skimpy with the memory....it's never used more than 240MB,
> never even touched the swap partition.
> ubuntu also seems to put resourses to "sleep" until needed.
> If your PC has 2GB of RAM....why not use it?


Use xosview to see how much it's really using, the "system monitor"
doesn't report cache.
 
Re: on triple boot, vista xp and ubuntu.. guess which one is theslowest?

non flammable on XP wrote:

....his usual Vista rage.
Get a life you stupid sack of sh*t!
Frank
 
In article <flqoc3$8pm$1@aioe.org>, forty-nine <110001@49.xyz> wrote:
>
>I have ubuntu, XP, and Vista.
>Vista is the most stable of the 3, then XP, then ubuntu (but I am new at
>ubuntu, playing with Xsettings)


Well, not to kock vista which is after all just a desktop OS,
but generally speaking any unix is much more stable than any windows.
For one thing, it's much simpler. For another, it's not monolithic.
Very few non-kernel events are unrecoverable.

>If your PC has 2GB of RAM....why not use it?


For what? Caching files I might maybe need a couple of bytes
from in a few days maybe sort of?
 
Re: on triple boot, vista xp and ubuntu.. guess which one is theslowest?

the wharf rat wrote:
> In article <flqoc3$8pm$1@aioe.org>, forty-nine <110001@49.xyz> wrote:
>> I have ubuntu, XP, and Vista.
>> Vista is the most stable of the 3, then XP, then ubuntu (but I am new at
>> ubuntu, playing with Xsettings)

>
> Well, not to kock vista which is after all just a desktop OS,
> but generally speaking any unix is much more stable than any windows.
> For one thing, it's much simpler. For another, it's not monolithic.
> Very few non-kernel events are unrecoverable.
>
>> If your PC has 2GB of RAM....why not use it?

>
> For what? Caching files I might maybe need a couple of bytes
> from in a few days maybe sort of?
>


A calculator would suffice for you.
But for those of use with $3000 worth of hardware on a single
PC....maybe we are looking for a little more.

But if you are limited to a chinese made WalMart computer...put what
works for you on it.
 
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