MyRegistryCleaner???

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On 8 Jun 2008 18:10:29 GMT, "ceed" <cdpostbox-usenet@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Bruce Chambers wrote:
>
>|ceed wrote:
>||Not Me wrote:
>||
>|.......
>|
>|
>||There are safe registry
>||cleaners out there like CCleaner (www.ccleaner.com) used by millions
>||without problems.
>|
>|
>| That is completely untrue. There is NO such thing as a "safe"
>|registry cleaner. There is also NO such thing as a registry cleaner
>|that serves any useful purpose that cannot be perform with much safer
>|tools.
>
>If we expand on this a little I may agree: No application which adds or
>removes stuff from the registry is safe. I guess we could discuss the
>term "safe", but if you look at the staggering changes some programs do
>to the registry during install, and what some programs leaves behind, I
>do not think a cleaner which removes stuff that isn't in use is less
>safe. Another question is if registry cleaners are useful. I do not
>really know.

Chambers is one of the wannabe "experts" that constantly knocks
Registry Cleaners but never offers up any reason WHY they're "bad"
other then him saying so and lying is ass off anyone that's ever used
one always picked some auto feature that he claims always destroys
your system. That's called exaggerating. Gross exggerating.

If any of the fanboys ever found themselves in court needing to PROVE
their wild accusations the opposing attorney would cut them to shreds
and the judge would probably give him a tongue lashing for good
measure. But alas, this is just some goofy newsgroup where many like
to flap their gums without providing any facts to back up their
claims.
 
On 8 Jun 2008 18:10:29 GMT, "ceed" <cdpostbox-usenet@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Bruce Chambers wrote:
>
>|ceed wrote:
>||Not Me wrote:
>||
>|.......
>|
>|
>||There are safe registry
>||cleaners out there like CCleaner (www.ccleaner.com) used by millions
>||without problems.
>|
>|
>| That is completely untrue. There is NO such thing as a "safe"
>|registry cleaner. There is also NO such thing as a registry cleaner
>|that serves any useful purpose that cannot be perform with much safer
>|tools.
>
>If we expand on this a little I may agree: No application which adds or
>removes stuff from the registry is safe.

Blanket statements like that are highly questionable. You just said
that any application that adds to the registry is unsafe. Ridiculous.

>I guess we could discuss the
>term "safe", but if you look at the staggering changes some programs do
>to the registry during install, and what some programs leaves behind, I
>do not think a cleaner which removes stuff that isn't in use is less
>safe.

Granted there is probably a lot of "stuff" in the registry that has
been left behind and is no longer needed... but what harm is it doing?
It most certainly isn't slowing the computer down.

The problem with "removes stuff" isn't that it removes something that
is no longer being used (again, there is no benefit from doing that)
but it's what _other_ "stuff" it removes.

IF the cleaner presents you with a list of things it's about to
remove, are YOU able to make an accurate assessment as to what to
approve and what to deny?

I doubt it.

So there is the very good chance that something will be deleted that's
needed, and the average user won't have a freaking clue how to get out
of the mess. It might not even show up immediately. Might show up
several days later when a particular program won't run, or when an
attempt to run it crashes the system. Etc., etc. How will the user
be able to trace that back to the "cleaning and optimizing"?

> Another question is if registry cleaners are useful. I do not
>really know.

Since one can't show a performance gain by "cleaning and optimizing"
the registry, and since there are countless examples of things that
may gone wrong when such actions are performed, I'd say that they are
not useful to anyone other than technicians who repair inoperable
Windows systems for a living.
 
Adam Albright wrote:

On 8 Jun 2008 18:10:29 GMT, "ceed" &ltcdpostbox-usenet@yahoo.com&gt wrote:



Bruce Chambers wrote: |ceed wrote: ||Not Me wrote: || |....... | | ||There are safe registry ||cleaners out there like CCleaner (www.ccleaner.com) used by millions ||without problems. | | | That is completely untrue. There is NO such thing as a "safe" |registry cleaner. There is also NO such thing as a registry cleaner |that serves any useful purpose that cannot be perform with much safer |tools.

Look at what a business Windows is because it has not been programmed efficiently. They get to sell antivirus because of poor security and then a registry cleaner because the registry is one of the biggest pieces of crap in the entire computing industry. Then because of greed the get to impose Windows Genuine Disadvantage and DRM. This sounds like a great setup. Am I jealous? You bet. I wish I knew how to screw people like they do.


If we expand on this a little I may agree: No application which adds or removes stuff from the registry is safe. I guess we could discuss the term "safe", but if you look at the staggering changes some programs do to the registry during install

At least with Linux all of the installation and configuration stuff are in files in the applications own folder and the install routine does not mess with other programs settings like in Windows.


, and what some programs leaves behind, I do not think a cleaner which removes stuff that isn't in use is less safe. Another question is if registry cleaners are useful. I do not really know.



Chambers is one of the wannabe "experts" that constantly knocks Registry Cleaners but never offers up any reason WHY they're "bad" other then him saying so and lying is ass off anyone that's ever used one always picked some auto feature that he claims always destroys your system. That's called exaggerating. Gross exggerating. If any of the fanboys ever found themselves in court needing to PROVE their wild accusations the opposing attorney would cut them to shreds and the judge would probably give him a tongue lashing for good measure. But alas, this is just some goofy newsgroup where many like to flap their gums without providing any facts to back up their claims.
 
If you play russian roulete and win, it was just a game...

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> On 8 Jun 2008 18:10:29 GMT, "ceed" <cdpostbox-usenet@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Bruce Chambers wrote:
>>
>>|ceed wrote:
>>||Not Me wrote:
>>||
>>|.......
>>|
>>|
>>||There are safe registry
>>||cleaners out there like CCleaner (www.ccleaner.com) used by millions
>>||without problems.
>>|
>>|
>>| That is completely untrue. There is NO such thing as a "safe"
>>|registry cleaner. There is also NO such thing as a registry cleaner
>>|that serves any useful purpose that cannot be perform with much safer
>>|tools.
>>
>>If we expand on this a little I may agree: No application which adds or
>>removes stuff from the registry is safe. I guess we could discuss the
>>term "safe", but if you look at the staggering changes some programs do
>>to the registry during install, and what some programs leaves behind, I
>>do not think a cleaner which removes stuff that isn't in use is less
>>safe. Another question is if registry cleaners are useful. I do not
>>really know.
>
> Chambers is one of the wannabe "experts" that constantly knocks
> Registry Cleaners but never offers up any reason WHY they're "bad"
> other then him saying so and lying is ass off anyone that's ever used
> one always picked some auto feature that he claims always destroys
> your system. That's called exaggerating. Gross exggerating.
>
> If any of the fanboys ever found themselves in court needing to PROVE
> their wild accusations the opposing attorney would cut them to shreds
> and the judge would probably give him a tongue lashing for good
> measure. But alas, this is just some goofy newsgroup where many like
> to flap their gums without providing any facts to back up their
> claims.
>
>
>
>
 
Nonny wrote:

|
|Blanket statements like that are highly questionable. You just said
|that any application that adds to the registry is unsafe. Ridiculous.


It's not ridiculous. And I am not saying what you claim is either. It's
different opinions. The only truly safe programs I know of are ones
that doesn't touch the registry at all. They have an ini file instead.

I've had programs installed which adds tons of stuff to the registry
which isn't removed when you uninstall. Programs like that has caused
me far more problems than any registry cleaner. A good example is
RealPlayer which can really mess up your registry (although the later
versions have become a little better in this regard). You have programs
which changes your file associations in the registry without even
letting the user know. I find that kind of thing just as harmful as the
safe registry cleaners out there. And please so not try to convince
that there aren't any safe ones out there, because I disagree.

And then there are programs like Revo Uninstaller which in a way also
cleans the registry after an uninstall. It's surprising how much dirt
most programs leaves behind.

http://www.revouninstaller.com/

I think a lot of people will find Revo useful, and it hasn't caused me
problems yet.

Personally I'm a software junkie. I try a lot of software because I
want to. I also work for a software company, so often I have to install
stuff even if I do not want to. In my case I need to clean out the
garbage from time to time. I've even had my registry hive reach maximum
size. Not everyone's like me. They run Windows and Office with a couple
of other programs, period. Their needs would be different.


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//ceed
 
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