My experence with Ubuntu 7.10

[Charlie Tame]

Richard Urban wrote:
> I am not referring to any system in particular. I have half a dozen
> older computers on the shelf and I wanted to see if they are compatible.
> Something like the Vista Compatibility Checker (even though it is not
> 100% accurate) would be appreciated. If there is no chance at all that
> 7.10 will not install, I don't want to waste the time.
>


Well I think it unlikely with Ubuntu on <256 MB and if it does it will
be no quicker than XP, however Debian might work but by default aims
lower in the graphics department. Ubuntu does have another CD that
installs a more minimal system and has more choice, but even so I think
you will be hard pressed to come up with something that by default will
give you the resolution XP will.

I would not like to comment on others I've "Looked at" but never really
used.

 

[Charlie Tame]

caver1 wrote:
> Stephan Rose wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:06:09 -0400, caver1 wrote:
>>
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23NI0zQDFIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eKymxBDFIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message news:%23FBzQfBFIHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On a serious note - where do you find hardware compatibility
>>>>>>>>> information for Ubuntu? I have not been able to come by it. Do
>>>>>>>>> they have "any" sort of program you can run to give a rough idea
>>>>>>>>> where one stands?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm asking because I have to set up an OLD computer for a
>>>>>>>>> handicapped individual. It will just be used for web surfing and
>>>>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>>> You pop the CD in and boot.
>>>>>>>> However the standard install doesn't work with 256M RAM so how old
>>>>>>>> is the machine?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It depends on the machine. I just tried it on an older machine that
>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>> AbitK7 amd 550 with 256 ram. loads just fine.
>>>>>> Have you tried to run the installer?
>>>>>> My vaio is a celery 600 with 256M and it hangs just after saying
>>>>>> starting partitioner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I just did .Took about 35mins.
>>>>> I had the same problem as you with my newer machine Abit board can't
>>>>> remember which one right now amd K4 1600
>>>>> 256 ram.
>>>>> The only thing I did was upgrade ram to 512 and it worked fine. I just
>>>>> tried it on the other one to see what would happen.
>>>> More RAM isn't an option for me as one of the DIMM slots is broken and
>>>> I can't fit more RAM even though I have it. I will just have to leave
>>>> XP on it as it isn't as bloated.
>>>
>>> Why it would work on one system with 256 and the other not I have no
>>> idea.
>>
>> Can depend on the video card. I've seen Ubuntu boot fine on a 256 meg
>> system and not on the other.
>>
>> Difference? One really had 256 megs, the other had 256 megs shared
>> with the on-board video card reducing the effective amount of
>> available memory.
>>
>> Also, I suppose the hardware drivers that need to be loaded can make a
>> difference too. Different drivers may have different memory requirements.
>>
>
>
> okay I thought that but the one it would boot on was onboard shared video.
> The other has a 64 meg Nvidia card. Both with 256. ?
> I know its hardware but its not worth it to me to find out what.
> caver1


Well I reckon Debian would be alright, the RAM on the card seems to
matter less than RAM in the system. It's not quite as user friendly as
Ubuntu but solid enough. Of course you may be able to improve video
after install

 

[kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com]

That Message Was Posted With Ubuntu 7.10, Any Post That Contains The Mozilla
Thunder Bird 2.0.0.6 X11 Identifier, Was Posted With Open Source Linux
Ubuntu 7.10, Just FYI. I Have Since Temporarily Returned To Windows Server
2008 Release Candidate 0, In Order To Run Some Diagnostic Tests On The
Memory (I Recently Added 2 Gigabytes Of Ram To One Of My Two Computer's),
And To Run Diagnostic Tests On The Hard Disks On The Two Computer's As Well.

P.S. I Will Return To Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Just As Soon As The Free
Disks I Requested From http://www.ubuntu.com/ Arrive At My Home, Since I
Have Found Some Bugs With The Upgrade Process From 7.04 To 7.10, Just FYI.

"dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
news:5B4D4A05-FB01-42ED-A603-1A732490997B@microsoft.com...
>
> <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23dRFgA3EIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Vista User wrote:
>>> Downloaded the image.
>>> Burned image to a CD.
>>> Booted from CD.
>>> Selected "Start or Install" from menu.
>>> System locked up with "Unsupported Video Mode"
>>> Removed CD.
>>> Placed CD in microwave.
>>> Watched the CD sparkle. (The only thing Ubuntu 7.10 CD is good for)
>>> Rebooted Vista.
>>> Now I have a OS that works.
>>
>> I Have Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Working Just Fine On Two Different
>> Computer's (An X64 Installation With An ATI Radeon X1300 Graphics Card,
>> And An X86 Installation With An Nvidia GeForce 8300GS Graphics Card),
>> Just FYI.
>
> hoW comE yoU don'T posT froM onE oF youR ubuntU boxeS?
> iS iT tO harD tO geT thE stupiD capitalS usinG ubuntU?

 

[kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com]

P.S. If You Were A Real Open Source Follower, You Would Have Known About
That X11 Identifier, Just FYI.

<kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OmlE0cFFIHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> That Message Was Posted With Ubuntu 7.10, Any Post That Contains The
> Mozilla Thunder Bird 2.0.0.6 X11 Identifier, Was Posted With Open Source
> Linux Ubuntu 7.10, Just FYI. I Have Since Temporarily Returned To Windows
> Server 2008 Release Candidate 0, In Order To Run Some Diagnostic Tests On
> The Memory (I Recently Added 2 Gigabytes Of Ram To One Of My Two
> Computer's), And To Run Diagnostic Tests On The Hard Disks On The Two
> Computer's As Well.
>
> P.S. I Will Return To Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Just As Soon As The
> Free Disks I Requested From http://www.ubuntu.com/ Arrive At My Home,
> Since I Have Found Some Bugs With The Upgrade Process From 7.04 To 7.10,
> Just FYI.
>
> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
> news:5B4D4A05-FB01-42ED-A603-1A732490997B@microsoft.com...
>>
>> <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23dRFgA3EIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Vista User wrote:
>>>> Downloaded the image.
>>>> Burned image to a CD.
>>>> Booted from CD.
>>>> Selected "Start or Install" from menu.
>>>> System locked up with "Unsupported Video Mode"
>>>> Removed CD.
>>>> Placed CD in microwave.
>>>> Watched the CD sparkle. (The only thing Ubuntu 7.10 CD is good for)
>>>> Rebooted Vista.
>>>> Now I have a OS that works.
>>>
>>> I Have Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Working Just Fine On Two Different
>>> Computer's (An X64 Installation With An ATI Radeon X1300 Graphics Card,
>>> And An X86 Installation With An Nvidia GeForce 8300GS Graphics Card),
>>> Just FYI.
>>
>> hoW comE yoU don'T posT froM onE oF youR ubuntU boxeS?
>> iS iT tO harD tO geT thE stupiD capitalS usinG ubuntU?
>

 

[MICHAEL]

Why aren't you using Thunderbird,
Mr. Real Open Source Follower?

It does work in Windows, Just FYI.


-Michael

* kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com:
> P.S. If You Were A Real Open Source Follower, You Would Have Known About
> That X11 Identifier, Just FYI.
>
> <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OmlE0cFFIHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> That Message Was Posted With Ubuntu 7.10, Any Post That Contains The
>> Mozilla Thunder Bird 2.0.0.6 X11 Identifier, Was Posted With Open Source
>> Linux Ubuntu 7.10, Just FYI. I Have Since Temporarily Returned To Windows
>> Server 2008 Release Candidate 0, In Order To Run Some Diagnostic Tests On
>> The Memory (I Recently Added 2 Gigabytes Of Ram To One Of My Two
>> Computer's), And To Run Diagnostic Tests On The Hard Disks On The Two
>> Computer's As Well.
>>
>> P.S. I Will Return To Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Just As Soon As The
>> Free Disks I Requested From http://www.ubuntu.com/ Arrive At My Home,
>> Since I Have Found Some Bugs With The Upgrade Process From 7.04 To 7.10,
>> Just FYI.
>>
>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
>> news:5B4D4A05-FB01-42ED-A603-1A732490997B@microsoft.com...
>>> <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23dRFgA3EIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Vista User wrote:
>>>>> Downloaded the image.
>>>>> Burned image to a CD.
>>>>> Booted from CD.
>>>>> Selected "Start or Install" from menu.
>>>>> System locked up with "Unsupported Video Mode"
>>>>> Removed CD.
>>>>> Placed CD in microwave.
>>>>> Watched the CD sparkle. (The only thing Ubuntu 7.10 CD is good for)
>>>>> Rebooted Vista.
>>>>> Now I have a OS that works.
>>>> I Have Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Working Just Fine On Two Different
>>>> Computer's (An X64 Installation With An ATI Radeon X1300 Graphics Card,
>>>> And An X86 Installation With An Nvidia GeForce 8300GS Graphics Card),
>>>> Just FYI.
>>> hoW comE yoU don'T posT froM onE oF youR ubuntU boxeS?
>>> iS iT tO harD tO geT thE stupiD capitalS usinG ubuntU?
>

 

[Stephan Rose]

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:42:18 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
> news:-LydndzCq6tZfYbanZ2dnUVZ8tvinZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>> Download the alternative install CD and try with that. The text mode
>> installer isn't any more difficult to use (think win9x installer), just
>> doesn't look as pretty.
>
> I have but I haven't had time to try it yet. There can't be much demand
> as I don't appear to have any trouble downloading Ubuntu 7.10 isos at
> high speeds. -)

Neither did I, on release day. It's just a matter of picking a good
mirror. =)

The main server though seriously, it was beyond hammered. I couldn't even
get a byte from it.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

 

[Stephan Rose]

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:21:08 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:

> Stephan Rose wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:50:19 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:
>>
>>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>>> Another question, if I may. If I boot from the Ubuntu Live DVD and
>>>> the system functions ok, can I assume (bad word again) that an
>>>> install would be the same on that hardware? I have only installed in
>>>> virtual machines.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes but my guess is it will crash in the first 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> I also spotted another issues (I think).
>>>
>>> The presence of a second drive seems to confuse the "From Live"
>>> installer, this makes sense of the CD that got Microwaved if the
>>> machine had more than one drive... I think I found a bug as it doesn't
>>> happen with the older versions. (64 and 32 both have it)
>>
>> Ummm Charlie, want to translate this into some language I can
>> understand? English? German? Japanese? Take your pick...
>>
>>
>
> Yes, I think this is what happens.
>
> I have a machine with one IDE and 2 SATA.
>
> If you try to install from the live CD onto SATA with either 32 or 64
> bit it seems fine until you restart when it comes back with a cannot
> find file. Remove the IDE (which was not the target drive) and the
> installer works perfectly.
>
> Does not appear to write anything on the IDE drive, just seems like it's
> presence causes a problem

Hmm that's interesting. I don't think I've ever tried that particular
configuration. IDE drives are so 90's! =)

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

 

[Stephan Rose]

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:38:02 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:

> Richard Urban wrote:
>> I am not referring to any system in particular. I have half a dozen
>> older computers on the shelf and I wanted to see if they are
>> compatible. Something like the Vista Compatibility Checker (even though
>> it is not 100% accurate) would be appreciated. If there is no chance at
>> all that 7.10 will not install, I don't want to waste the time.
>>
>>
>
> Well I think it unlikely with Ubuntu on <256 MB and if it does it will
> be no quicker than XP, however Debian might work but by default aims
> lower in the graphics department. Ubuntu does have another CD that
> installs a more minimal system and has more choice, but even so I think
> you will be hard pressed to come up with something that by default will
> give you the resolution XP will.

You mean video resolution? The latest version should give the appropriate
resolution without a problem. I've honestly yet to see it not do that.

Ubuntu under 256mb is going to be though, that's why I suggest Xubuntu.

Essentially it isn't Ubuntu eating the memory, it's the desktop manager
that eats most of the memory.



--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

 

[Stephan Rose]

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:55:54 -0400, Richard Urban wrote:

> I am not referring to any system in particular. I have half a dozen
> older computers on the shelf and I wanted to see if they are compatible.
> Something like the Vista Compatibility Checker (even though it is not
> 100% accurate) would be appreciated. If there is no chance at all that
> 7.10 will not install, I don't want to waste the time.

Ahh gotcha. Well the compatibility checker is basically the LiveCD.
LiveCD boots and you're normally good to go. If you are having trouble
Ubuntu LiveCD due to low memory, like I said, try Xubuntu.

Xubuntu can run with as little as 64mb of RAM in the system, though the
live CD will still want 192 megs of RAM as the file system and everything
else has to go somewhere and memory is the only place it can go.

http://www.xubuntu.com/get#gutsy

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

 

[Richard Urban]

Gee, I remember 5-6 years ago the word was to reclaim those old PC that were
not up to snuff for the new Windows O/S by running Linux on them - because
they used so little resources.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
news:vPGdnegRIvvzw4HanZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:55:54 -0400, Richard Urban wrote:
>
>> I am not referring to any system in particular. I have half a dozen
>> older computers on the shelf and I wanted to see if they are compatible.
>> Something like the Vista Compatibility Checker (even though it is not
>> 100% accurate) would be appreciated. If there is no chance at all that
>> 7.10 will not install, I don't want to waste the time.
>
> Ahh gotcha. Well the compatibility checker is basically the LiveCD.
> LiveCD boots and you're normally good to go. If you are having trouble
> Ubuntu LiveCD due to low memory, like I said, try Xubuntu.
>
> Xubuntu can run with as little as 64mb of RAM in the system, though the
> live CD will still want 192 megs of RAM as the file system and everything
> else has to go somewhere and memory is the only place it can go.
>
> http://www.xubuntu.com/get#gutsy
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
> å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

 

[Stephan Rose]

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:12:14 -0400, Richard Urban wrote:

> Gee, I remember 5-6 years ago the word was to reclaim those old PC that
> were not up to snuff for the new Windows O/S by running Linux on them -
> because they used so little resources.

Sure but on the other hand people also want all the conveniences of
modern day operating systems. They want a user interface, pretty icons,
and so on. Automated wizards, etc. None of this is free and all of it
consumes memory.

The Linux kernel itself wants little to none of it. It's all consumed by
the conveniences above.

And quite honestly, that statement you mention still holds true today.

You can reclaim those old PCs that are not up to snuff for the new
Windows OS by Linux on them. You just need to stay with the appropriate
distribution.

Ubuntu 7.10 would like 320 megs of RAM but will run with 256 or better.
Xubuntu would like 192 megs of RAM but will run with 64 or better.
Vista would like 1024 megs of RAM but will run with 512 or better.

So the statement is perfectly true. If you have PCs that are not suitable
for Vista they are more than likely going to be suitable for Ubuntu.

Now if the hardware is so old that not even Xubuntu will properly run on
it, well then you'll likely need to use a distribution specialized to run
on such hardware. Most modern day distributions are designed to compete
with Vista and modern day XP. Not with Win95 or Win98.

But regardless of that, there are distributions specialized to run on
older hardware such as Damn Small Linux which will run on a 486DX with 16
megs of RAM if it needs to.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

 

[kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com]

Because I Like To Show People That I Am Boycotting Windows Vista RTM (Which
Already Has At Least 35 Security Related Updates Available Equaling At Least
100 Mega Bytes, For An Operating System Which Is Being Advertised As The
Most Security Tight Operating System Ever, And Is Labeled As Perfect For
Developers, IT Pro's, And SMB's), And That I Am Using The Windows Server
2008 Release Candidate 0 Public Beta Instead (Which Is Where The WOW Really
Went) Just FYI.

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:OUkh1hGFIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Why aren't you using Thunderbird,
> Mr. Real Open Source Follower?
>
> It does work in Windows, Just FYI.
>
>
> -Michael
>
> * kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com:
>> P.S. If You Were A Real Open Source Follower, You Would Have Known About
>> That X11 Identifier, Just FYI.
>>
>> <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OmlE0cFFIHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> That Message Was Posted With Ubuntu 7.10, Any Post That Contains The
>>> Mozilla Thunder Bird 2.0.0.6 X11 Identifier, Was Posted With Open Source
>>> Linux Ubuntu 7.10, Just FYI. I Have Since Temporarily Returned To
>>> Windows
>>> Server 2008 Release Candidate 0, In Order To Run Some Diagnostic Tests
>>> On
>>> The Memory (I Recently Added 2 Gigabytes Of Ram To One Of My Two
>>> Computer's), And To Run Diagnostic Tests On The Hard Disks On The Two
>>> Computer's As Well.
>>>
>>> P.S. I Will Return To Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Just As Soon As The
>>> Free Disks I Requested From http://www.ubuntu.com/ Arrive At My Home,
>>> Since I Have Found Some Bugs With The Upgrade Process From 7.04 To 7.10,
>>> Just FYI.
>>>
>>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
>>> news:5B4D4A05-FB01-42ED-A603-1A732490997B@microsoft.com...
>>>> <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23dRFgA3EIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Vista User wrote:
>>>>>> Downloaded the image.
>>>>>> Burned image to a CD.
>>>>>> Booted from CD.
>>>>>> Selected "Start or Install" from menu.
>>>>>> System locked up with "Unsupported Video Mode"
>>>>>> Removed CD.
>>>>>> Placed CD in microwave.
>>>>>> Watched the CD sparkle. (The only thing Ubuntu 7.10 CD is good for)
>>>>>> Rebooted Vista.
>>>>>> Now I have a OS that works.
>>>>> I Have Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Working Just Fine On Two
>>>>> Different
>>>>> Computer's (An X64 Installation With An ATI Radeon X1300 Graphics
>>>>> Card,
>>>>> And An X86 Installation With An Nvidia GeForce 8300GS Graphics Card),
>>>>> Just FYI.
>>>> hoW comE yoU don'T posT froM onE oF youR ubuntU boxeS?
>>>> iS iT tO harD tO geT thE stupiD capitalS usinG ubuntU?
>>

 

[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com wrote:
> Because I Like To Show People That I Am Boycotting Windows Vista RTM
> (Which Already Has At Least 35 Security Related Updates Available
> Equaling At Least 100 Mega Bytes, For An Operating System Which Is Being
> Advertised As The Most Security Tight Operating System Ever, And Is
> Labeled As Perfect For Developers, IT Pro's, And SMB's), And That I Am
> Using The Windows Server 2008 Release Candidate 0 Public Beta Instead
> (Which Is Where The WOW Really Went) Just FYI.

Oh yes, the 'security of vista'! I found out today that if you have a
vista business machine not joined to a domain, and your login does not
have a password set, that when you lock the screen, all you need to do
is click on your picture in order to get back to the desktop. Locked my
arse!

>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:OUkh1hGFIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Why aren't you using Thunderbird,
>> Mr. Real Open Source Follower?
>>
>> It does work in Windows, Just FYI.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> * kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com:
>>> P.S. If You Were A Real Open Source Follower, You Would Have Known About
>>> That X11 Identifier, Just FYI.
>>>
>>> <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OmlE0cFFIHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> That Message Was Posted With Ubuntu 7.10, Any Post That Contains The
>>>> Mozilla Thunder Bird 2.0.0.6 X11 Identifier, Was Posted With Open
>>>> Source
>>>> Linux Ubuntu 7.10, Just FYI. I Have Since Temporarily Returned To
>>>> Windows
>>>> Server 2008 Release Candidate 0, In Order To Run Some Diagnostic
>>>> Tests On
>>>> The Memory (I Recently Added 2 Gigabytes Of Ram To One Of My Two
>>>> Computer's), And To Run Diagnostic Tests On The Hard Disks On The Two
>>>> Computer's As Well.
>>>>
>>>> P.S. I Will Return To Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Just As Soon As The
>>>> Free Disks I Requested From http://www.ubuntu.com/ Arrive At My Home,
>>>> Since I Have Found Some Bugs With The Upgrade Process From 7.04 To
>>>> 7.10,
>>>> Just FYI.
>>>>
>>>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:5B4D4A05-FB01-42ED-A603-1A732490997B@microsoft.com...
>>>>> <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23dRFgA3EIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Vista User wrote:
>>>>>>> Downloaded the image.
>>>>>>> Burned image to a CD.
>>>>>>> Booted from CD.
>>>>>>> Selected "Start or Install" from menu.
>>>>>>> System locked up with "Unsupported Video Mode"
>>>>>>> Removed CD.
>>>>>>> Placed CD in microwave.
>>>>>>> Watched the CD sparkle. (The only thing Ubuntu 7.10 CD is good for)
>>>>>>> Rebooted Vista.
>>>>>>> Now I have a OS that works.
>>>>>> I Have Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Working Just Fine On Two
>>>>>> Different
>>>>>> Computer's (An X64 Installation With An ATI Radeon X1300 Graphics
>>>>>> Card,
>>>>>> And An X86 Installation With An Nvidia GeForce 8300GS Graphics Card),
>>>>>> Just FYI.
>>>>> hoW comE yoU don'T posT froM onE oF youR ubuntU boxeS?
>>>>> iS iT tO harD tO geT thE stupiD capitalS usinG ubuntU?
>>>
>


--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett

 

[Vista User]

"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
<none@none.not> wrote in message news:ffjd2n$po8$3@aioe.org...
> Oh yes, the 'security of vista'! I found out today that if you have a
> vista business machine not joined to a domain, and your login does not
> have a password set, that when you lock the screen, all you need to do is
> click on your picture in order to get back to the desktop. Locked my
> arse!
>

So Vista should just pick a password and make you guess what it is?

 

[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

Vista User wrote:
> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
> <none@none.not> wrote in message news:ffjd2n$po8$3@aioe.org...
>> Oh yes, the 'security of vista'! I found out today that if you have a
>> vista business machine not joined to a domain, and your login does not
>> have a password set, that when you lock the screen, all you need to do
>> is click on your picture in order to get back to the desktop. Locked
>> my arse!
>>
>
> So Vista should just pick a password and make you guess what it is?

Well, a few things could happen here to improve the current state:

- They could call it something besides 'locked' because it obviously is
NOT locked.

- Vista could pretend there is a password as did older versions of
windows (ie prompt for a password, even though there isn't one) because
that at least gives the impression that there is some kind of password.

- Strongly encourage, nag, recommend, whatever you want to call it that
user(s) of the computer create a password for security purposes.

That's just a few ideas which would improve it.

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett