linux might be better for you

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arkara

i have been a windows user for many years until one day i found out about
linux. many people when thay hear the word "linux" are terrified and tell me
that it is very very dificult.
this is wrong.

linux over windows.
1) its free
2)its faster
3) its much more secure
4)has more bugfixes(people actualy work on open source)
5)many many applications
6) much of the hardware work out of the box
7)you can try it without loosing any data using live cds
8) linux has become very very easy to use and with no command line
9) can easyly dual boot with windows
10)most off all the ability to choose what you want
11) did you know that microsoft has secret codes on its windows software so
that you are spyed on via the NSA?(national security agency)
12)no DRM(digital rights management)
and many other things for you to discover.
13)fully customizable to your needs

windows over linux.
1)widely accepted
2)more apps
3)easyer than linux(while linux is not so hard)
4)more hardware support

you can give linux a try. i dont say that is will work for you 100% but the
chances are good
some popular linux distributions with a large comunity are

ubuntu: www.ubuntu.com
pclinuxos: www.pclinuxos.com
you can find more distributions on www.distrowatch.com

most linux distributions have live cds.
you can download the iso image of the cd and then burn it on a cd or dvd
then boot from it (sometimes you must configure your bios in order to boot
first from cd drive)

DISCLAIMER:THIS POST IS NOT OVEREVANGELIZING LINUX BUT JUST POINTS OUT THAT
IT IS A VIABLE SOLUTION TO WINDOWS. THERE CAN ALWAYS BE DIFICULTIES WHEN
CHANGING AN OPERATING SYSTEM. EVERY USER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN SYSTEM
AND DATA. AND BEFORE ANY ACTION DATA MUST BE BACKED UP.

REMEMBER PEOPLE IT'S ALL ABOUT CHOICE AND MICROSOFT DOES NOT GIVE YOU ANY
 
They should rename this forum: "linux.public.windows.vista.haters"


"arkara" <arkara@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:590F9332-C098-45C8-A0F9-EF28FF18659D@microsoft.com...
>i have been a windows user for many years until one day i found out about
> linux. many people when thay hear the word "linux" are terrified and tell
> me
> that it is very very dificult.
> this is wrong.
>
> linux over windows.
> 1) its free
> 2)its faster
> 3) its much more secure
> 4)has more bugfixes(people actualy work on open source)
> 5)many many applications
> 6) much of the hardware work out of the box
> 7)you can try it without loosing any data using live cds
> 8) linux has become very very easy to use and with no command line
> 9) can easyly dual boot with windows
> 10)most off all the ability to choose what you want
> 11) did you know that microsoft has secret codes on its windows software
> so
> that you are spyed on via the NSA?(national security agency)
> 12)no DRM(digital rights management)
> and many other things for you to discover.
> 13)fully customizable to your needs
>
> windows over linux.
> 1)widely accepted
> 2)more apps
> 3)easyer than linux(while linux is not so hard)
> 4)more hardware support
>
> you can give linux a try. i dont say that is will work for you 100% but
> the
> chances are good
> some popular linux distributions with a large comunity are
>
> ubuntu: www.ubuntu.com
> pclinuxos: www.pclinuxos.com
> you can find more distributions on www.distrowatch.com
>
> most linux distributions have live cds.
> you can download the iso image of the cd and then burn it on a cd or dvd
> then boot from it (sometimes you must configure your bios in order to boot
> first from cd drive)
>
> DISCLAIMER:THIS POST IS NOT OVEREVANGELIZING LINUX BUT JUST POINTS OUT
> THAT
> IT IS A VIABLE SOLUTION TO WINDOWS. THERE CAN ALWAYS BE DIFICULTIES WHEN
> CHANGING AN OPERATING SYSTEM. EVERY USER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN SYSTEM
> AND DATA. AND BEFORE ANY ACTION DATA MUST BE BACKED UP.
>
> REMEMBER PEOPLE IT'S ALL ABOUT CHOICE AND MICROSOFT DOES NOT GIVE YOU ANY
 
People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their choice.
It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery loves company".
Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is blantently false and
misleading.
If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor linux
users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the relativity low number
of Windows users who post to this newsgroup. Linux is for losers!

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/



"John Adams" wrote:

> They should rename this forum: "linux.public.windows.vista.haters"
>
>
> "arkara" <arkara@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:590F9332-C098-45C8-A0F9-EF28FF18659D@microsoft.com...
> >i have been a windows user for many years until one day i found out about
> > linux. many people when thay hear the word "linux" are terrified and tell
> > me
> > that it is very very dificult.
> > this is wrong.
> >
> > linux over windows.
> > 1) its free
> > 2)its faster
> > 3) its much more secure
> > 4)has more bugfixes(people actualy work on open source)
> > 5)many many applications
> > 6) much of the hardware work out of the box
> > 7)you can try it without loosing any data using live cds
> > 8) linux has become very very easy to use and with no command line
> > 9) can easyly dual boot with windows
> > 10)most off all the ability to choose what you want
> > 11) did you know that microsoft has secret codes on its windows software
> > so
> > that you are spyed on via the NSA?(national security agency)
> > 12)no DRM(digital rights management)
> > and many other things for you to discover.
> > 13)fully customizable to your needs
> >
> > windows over linux.
> > 1)widely accepted
> > 2)more apps
> > 3)easyer than linux(while linux is not so hard)
> > 4)more hardware support
> >
> > you can give linux a try. i dont say that is will work for you 100% but
> > the
> > chances are good
> > some popular linux distributions with a large comunity are
> >
> > ubuntu: www.ubuntu.com
> > pclinuxos: www.pclinuxos.com
> > you can find more distributions on www.distrowatch.com
> >
> > most linux distributions have live cds.
> > you can download the iso image of the cd and then burn it on a cd or dvd
> > then boot from it (sometimes you must configure your bios in order to boot
> > first from cd drive)
> >
> > DISCLAIMER:THIS POST IS NOT OVEREVANGELIZING LINUX BUT JUST POINTS OUT
> > THAT
> > IT IS A VIABLE SOLUTION TO WINDOWS. THERE CAN ALWAYS BE DIFICULTIES WHEN
> > CHANGING AN OPERATING SYSTEM. EVERY USER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN SYSTEM
> > AND DATA. AND BEFORE ANY ACTION DATA MUST BE BACKED UP.
> >
> > REMEMBER PEOPLE IT'S ALL ABOUT CHOICE AND MICROSOFT DOES NOT GIVE YOU ANY
>
>
 
Does it make you think why it is not the most popular operating system? You even
scream a disclaimer to cover yourself, just to clean up the last line of your
screaming disclaimer, people do have a choice, Linux is not chosen. It is
understandable arkara, the successful are always blamed for the short comings of
those whom always complain about something.

Why do Linux advocates hang out in a Windows news group? If Linux was a success,
we would not see them here, because then we would have an obvious choice, or
alternative. Vista may not be successful like that of Windows XP, but Windows 7
will be, and Linux will remain where it is, unless Apple decides to place them on
the dump pile too. We could go on and talk about Linux, but who is interested in
fractional percentages?

- Twisted Vista.

"arkara" <arkara@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:590F9332-C098-45C8-A0F9-EF28FF18659D@microsoft.com...
|i have been a windows user for many years until one day i found out about
| linux. many people when thay hear the word "linux" are terrified and tell me
| that it is very very dificult.
| this is wrong.
|
| linux over windows.
| 1) its free
| 2)its faster
| 3) its much more secure
| 4)has more bugfixes(people actualy work on open source)
| 5)many many applications
| 6) much of the hardware work out of the box
| 7)you can try it without loosing any data using live cds
| 8) linux has become very very easy to use and with no command line
| 9) can easyly dual boot with windows
| 10)most off all the ability to choose what you want
| 11) did you know that microsoft has secret codes on its windows software so
| that you are spyed on via the NSA?(national security agency)
| 12)no DRM(digital rights management)
| and many other things for you to discover.
| 13)fully customizable to your needs
|
| windows over linux.
| 1)widely accepted
| 2)more apps
| 3)easyer than linux(while linux is not so hard)
| 4)more hardware support
|
| you can give linux a try. i dont say that is will work for you 100% but the
| chances are good
| some popular linux distributions with a large comunity are
|
| ubuntu: www.ubuntu.com
| pclinuxos: www.pclinuxos.com
| you can find more distributions on www.distrowatch.com
|
| most linux distributions have live cds.
| you can download the iso image of the cd and then burn it on a cd or dvd
| then boot from it (sometimes you must configure your bios in order to boot
| first from cd drive)
|
| DISCLAIMER:THIS POST IS NOT OVEREVANGELIZING LINUX BUT JUST POINTS OUT THAT
| IT IS A VIABLE SOLUTION TO WINDOWS. THERE CAN ALWAYS BE DIFICULTIES WHEN
| CHANGING AN OPERATING SYSTEM. EVERY USER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN SYSTEM
| AND DATA. AND BEFORE ANY ACTION DATA MUST BE BACKED UP.
|
| REMEMBER PEOPLE IT'S ALL ABOUT CHOICE AND MICROSOFT DOES NOT GIVE YOU ANY
 
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:2310431F-C7BB-4E38-B434-0DBDD5D790EB@microsoft.com...
> People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their
> choice.
> It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery loves
> company".
> Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is blantently false and
> misleading.
> If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor linux
> users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the relativity low
> number
> of Windows users who post to this newsgroup. Linux is for losers!
>

I wouldn't go so far as to say Linux is for losers, but it isn't for someone
who isn't very technically savvy. Easy tasks like installing an application
on Vista are much harder on any Linux distro. You have to worry about
dependencies, libraries, etc... Plus hardware support with Linux is hit and
miss. Maybe your graphics/sound/network card is supported, maybe not. If
not, you have to try and track it down on the Internet, if it exists.

I've tried a couple of Linux distros over the years and each time concluded
that Linux isn't worth bashing my head against a brick wall. I'll stick with
Vista.
 
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their choice.
> It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery loves company".
> Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is blantently false and
> misleading.
> If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor linux
> users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the relativity low number
> of Windows users who post to this newsgroup. Linux is for losers!
>


I resent the implication that unbiased comments I may have made are
lies, and coming from a know nothing worthless twit like you your
comments deserve little more then pure contempt.
 
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their choice.
> It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery loves company".
> Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is blantently false and
> misleading.
> If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor linux
> users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the relativity low number
> of Windows users who post to this newsgroup. Linux is for losers!
>

Every time Carey opens his mouth, even other MVPs admit it's hard to
tell if he is actually saying something or just farting because of his
advanced case of cranial-rectal inversion:
http://www.microscum.com/carey/

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free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett
 
Titus Pullo wrote:
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2310431F-C7BB-4E38-B434-0DBDD5D790EB@microsoft.com...
>> People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their
>> choice.
>> It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery loves
>> company".
>> Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is blantently false
>> and
>> misleading.
>> If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor linux
>> users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the relativity low
>> number
>> of Windows users who post to this newsgroup. Linux is for losers!
>>
>
> I wouldn't go so far as to say Linux is for losers, but it isn't for
> someone who isn't very technically savvy. Easy tasks like installing an
> application on Vista are much harder on any Linux distro. You have to
> worry about dependencies, libraries, etc... Plus hardware support with
> Linux is hit and miss. Maybe your graphics/sound/network card is
> supported, maybe not. If not, you have to try and track it down on the
> Internet, if it exists.
>
> I've tried a couple of Linux distros over the years and each time
> concluded that Linux isn't worth bashing my head against a brick wall.
> I'll stick with Vista.


How many years ago was that exactly?
 
Titus Pullo wrote:
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2310431F-C7BB-4E38-B434-0DBDD5D790EB@microsoft.com...
>> People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their
>> choice.
>> It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery loves
>> company".
>> Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is blantently false
>> and
>> misleading.
>> If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor linux
>> users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the relativity low
>> number
>> of Windows users who post to this newsgroup. Linux is for losers!
>>
>
> I wouldn't go so far as to say Linux is for losers, but it isn't for
> someone who isn't very technically savvy. Easy tasks like installing an
> application on Vista are much harder on any Linux distro. You have to
> worry about dependencies, libraries, etc...

I use Fedora and I find it much easier. In windows I have to worry more
about dependencies sometimes, but in Fedora, I do not need to worry
about dependencies because the package manager takes care of it for me.
Methinks thou doth overgeneralize here.

> Plus hardware support with
> Linux is hit and miss. Maybe your graphics/sound/network card is
> supported, maybe not. If not, you have to try and track it down on the
> Internet, if it exists.
>
> I've tried a couple of Linux distros over the years and each time
> concluded that Linux isn't worth bashing my head against a brick wall.
> I'll stick with Vista.


--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett
 
Titus Pullo wrote:
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2310431F-C7BB-4E38-B434-0DBDD5D790EB@microsoft.com...
>> People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their
>> choice.
>> It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery loves
>> company".
>> Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is blantently false
>> and
>> misleading.
>> If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor linux
>> users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the relativity low
>> number
>> of Windows users who post to this newsgroup. Linux is for losers!
>>
>
> I wouldn't go so far as to say Linux is for losers, but it isn't for
> someone who isn't very technically savvy. Easy tasks like installing an
> application on Vista are much harder on any Linux distro. You have to
> worry about dependencies, libraries, etc... Plus hardware support with
> Linux is hit and miss. Maybe your graphics/sound/network card is
> supported, maybe not. If not, you have to try and track it down on the
> Internet, if it exists.
You might want to reconsider your opinions. The app installation process
is point and click if using repositories, and dependencies, libraries,
etc. are not an issue. Hardware support is mostly hit, not miss. It
probably isn't much worse (if at all worse) than some of the hardware
issues that now face vista users.
>
> I've tried a couple of Linux distros over the years and each time
> concluded that Linux isn't worth bashing my head against a brick wall.
> I'll stick with Vista.
And sticking with vista is fine, but just because you bashed your head
against a brick wall does not mean that is not a viable choice for
others. BTW, what won during the bashing episode? Your head? Or the
brick wall? )


--
norm
 
"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:Ox5knJtDIHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Titus Pullo wrote:
>>
>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2310431F-C7BB-4E38-B434-0DBDD5D790EB@microsoft.com...
>>> People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their
>>> choice.
>>> It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery loves
>>> company".
>>> Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is blantently false
>>> and
>>> misleading.
>>> If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor linux
>>> users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the relativity low
>>> number
>>> of Windows users who post to this newsgroup. Linux is for losers!
>>>
>>
>> I wouldn't go so far as to say Linux is for losers, but it isn't for
>> someone who isn't very technically savvy. Easy tasks like installing an
>> application on Vista are much harder on any Linux distro. You have to
>> worry about dependencies, libraries, etc... Plus hardware support with
>> Linux is hit and miss. Maybe your graphics/sound/network card is
>> supported, maybe not. If not, you have to try and track it down on the
>> Internet, if it exists.
>>
>> I've tried a couple of Linux distros over the years and each time
>> concluded that Linux isn't worth bashing my head against a brick wall.
>> I'll stick with Vista.
>
>
> How many years ago was that exactly?

Since about 2004. I've tried a couple of times. Fedora Core, SuSE. I last
tried SLED 10 about 2 months ago. No, it wasn't a shot at Linux in 1998 and
nothing since.
 
Charlie Tame wrote:
> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>> People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their
>> choice. It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery
>> loves company". Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is
>> blantently false and misleading.
>> If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor
>> linux users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the
>> relativity low number of Windows users who post to this newsgroup.
>> Linux is for losers!

Here, read the comments under this ad idiot...

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/webelements01/detail/B000KCIA3W

No mention of other OS, just dissatisfaction with Vista and there are
plenty more comments like it but you probably daren't look.

MS needs to respond to these criticisms in a rational and thoughtful
manner, not as you do, berate the user and then demonstrate your vast
lack of technical expertise on any subject in particular.

You are already the lowest form of life to be found hanging around here,
but go ahead, make my day, I will be delighted to belittle you even
further and it wont take much effort because as always you will do most
of the work yourself.
 
Titus Pullo wrote:
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:Ox5knJtDIHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Titus Pullo wrote:
>>>
>>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2310431F-C7BB-4E38-B434-0DBDD5D790EB@microsoft.com...
>>>> People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their
>>>> choice.
>>>> It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery loves
>>>> company".
>>>> Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is blantently
>>>> false and
>>>> misleading.
>>>> If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor
>>>> linux
>>>> users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the relativity
>>>> low number
>>>> of Windows users who post to this newsgroup. Linux is for losers!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't go so far as to say Linux is for losers, but it isn't for
>>> someone who isn't very technically savvy. Easy tasks like installing
>>> an application on Vista are much harder on any Linux distro. You have
>>> to worry about dependencies, libraries, etc... Plus hardware support
>>> with Linux is hit and miss. Maybe your graphics/sound/network card is
>>> supported, maybe not. If not, you have to try and track it down on
>>> the Internet, if it exists.
>>>
>>> I've tried a couple of Linux distros over the years and each time
>>> concluded that Linux isn't worth bashing my head against a brick
>>> wall. I'll stick with Vista.
>>
>>
>> How many years ago was that exactly?
>
> Since about 2004. I've tried a couple of times. Fedora Core, SuSE. I
> last tried SLED 10 about 2 months ago. No, it wasn't a shot at Linux in
> 1998 and nothing since.


I was genuinely curious because I've found in the last couple of years
the leaps forward in "Friendly" have been quite surprising, whilst at
Redmond we seem to have gone for the hostility factor :)

Most of the live CD versions, although they take a while to load being
CD based, work remarkably well on a lot of hardware, including going
online. I actually like Vista although the "Novelty" color scheme gets
very tiring for work, but it does have some real competition coming
round the corner. :)
 
"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:eeVxtutDIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| Titus Pullo wrote:
| >
| > "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
| > news:Ox5knJtDIHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| >> Titus Pullo wrote:
| >>>
| >>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
| >>> news:2310431F-C7BB-4E38-B434-0DBDD5D790EB@microsoft.com...
| >>>> People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their
| >>>> choice.
| >>>> It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery loves
| >>>> company".
| >>>> Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is blantently
| >>>> false and
| >>>> misleading.
| >>>> If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor
| >>>> linux
| >>>> users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the relativity
| >>>> low number
| >>>> of Windows users who post to this newsgroup. Linux is for losers!
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>> I wouldn't go so far as to say Linux is for losers, but it isn't for
| >>> someone who isn't very technically savvy. Easy tasks like installing
| >>> an application on Vista are much harder on any Linux distro. You have
| >>> to worry about dependencies, libraries, etc... Plus hardware support
| >>> with Linux is hit and miss. Maybe your graphics/sound/network card is
| >>> supported, maybe not. If not, you have to try and track it down on
| >>> the Internet, if it exists.
| >>>
| >>> I've tried a couple of Linux distros over the years and each time
| >>> concluded that Linux isn't worth bashing my head against a brick
| >>> wall. I'll stick with Vista.
| >>
| >>
| >> How many years ago was that exactly?
| >
| > Since about 2004. I've tried a couple of times. Fedora Core, SuSE. I
| > last tried SLED 10 about 2 months ago. No, it wasn't a shot at Linux in
| > 1998 and nothing since.
|
|
| I was genuinely curious because I've found in the last couple of years
| the leaps forward in "Friendly" have been quite surprising, whilst at
| Redmond we seem to have gone for the hostility factor :)
|
| Most of the live CD versions, although they take a while to load being
| CD based, work remarkably well on a lot of hardware, including going
| online. I actually like Vista although the "Novelty" color scheme gets
| very tiring for work, but it does have some real competition coming
| round the corner. :)

Correct, in one corner there is Windows XP, in the other corner is the coming of
Windows 7. Linux will need light year leaps and bounds to be considered a
competitor to Windows, it is still not even an alternative to Windows in the
market place. Linux does not seem to have the presence Windows has. You can even
go to a local department store and buy a Windows CD, there are billboards, TV
adds, radio commercials,... Say Ubuntu somewhere and people will say U Bum Who
Too....?

- Twista Vista
 
arkara wrote:
> i have been a windows user for many years until one day i found out about
> linux. many people when thay hear the word "linux" are terrified and tell me
> that it is very very dificult.
> this is wrong.
>
> linux over windows.
> 1) its free
> 2)its faster
> 3) its much more secure
> 4)has more bugfixes(people actualy work on open source)
> 5)many many applications
> 6) much of the hardware work out of the box
> 7)you can try it without loosing any data using live cds
> 8) linux has become very very easy to use and with no command line
> 9) can easyly dual boot with windows
> 10)most off all the ability to choose what you want
> 11) did you know that microsoft has secret codes on its windows software so
> that you are spyed on via the NSA?(national security agency)
> 12)no DRM(digital rights management)
> and many other things for you to discover.
> 13)fully customizable to your needs
>
> windows over linux.
> 1)widely accepted
> 2)more apps
> 3)easyer than linux(while linux is not so hard)
> 4)more hardware support
>
> you can give linux a try. i dont say that is will work for you 100% but the
> chances are good
> some popular linux distributions with a large comunity are
>
> ubuntu: www.ubuntu.com
> pclinuxos: www.pclinuxos.com
> you can find more distributions on www.distrowatch.com
>
> most linux distributions have live cds.
> you can download the iso image of the cd and then burn it on a cd or dvd
> then boot from it (sometimes you must configure your bios in order to boot
> first from cd drive)
>
> DISCLAIMER:THIS POST IS NOT OVEREVANGELIZING LINUX BUT JUST POINTS OUT THAT
> IT IS A VIABLE SOLUTION TO WINDOWS. THERE CAN ALWAYS BE DIFICULTIES WHEN
> CHANGING AN OPERATING SYSTEM. EVERY USER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN SYSTEM
> AND DATA. AND BEFORE ANY ACTION DATA MUST BE BACKED UP.
>
> REMEMBER PEOPLE IT'S ALL ABOUT CHOICE AND MICROSOFT DOES NOT GIVE YOU ANY

You're desperate or what?
Frank
 
Twisted Vista wrote:
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:eeVxtutDIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | Titus Pullo wrote:
> | >
> | > "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> | > news:Ox5knJtDIHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | >> Titus Pullo wrote:
> | >>>
> | >>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> | >>> news:2310431F-C7BB-4E38-B434-0DBDD5D790EB@microsoft.com...
> | >>>> People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their
> | >>>> choice.
> | >>>> It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery loves
> | >>>> company".
> | >>>> Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is blantently
> | >>>> false and
> | >>>> misleading.
> | >>>> If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor
> | >>>> linux
> | >>>> users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the relativity
> | >>>> low number
> | >>>> of Windows users who post to this newsgroup. Linux is for losers!
> | >>>>
> | >>>
> | >>> I wouldn't go so far as to say Linux is for losers, but it isn't for
> | >>> someone who isn't very technically savvy. Easy tasks like installing
> | >>> an application on Vista are much harder on any Linux distro. You have
> | >>> to worry about dependencies, libraries, etc... Plus hardware support
> | >>> with Linux is hit and miss. Maybe your graphics/sound/network card is
> | >>> supported, maybe not. If not, you have to try and track it down on
> | >>> the Internet, if it exists.
> | >>>
> | >>> I've tried a couple of Linux distros over the years and each time
> | >>> concluded that Linux isn't worth bashing my head against a brick
> | >>> wall. I'll stick with Vista.
> | >>
> | >>
> | >> How many years ago was that exactly?
> | >
> | > Since about 2004. I've tried a couple of times. Fedora Core, SuSE. I
> | > last tried SLED 10 about 2 months ago. No, it wasn't a shot at Linux in
> | > 1998 and nothing since.
> |
> |
> | I was genuinely curious because I've found in the last couple of years
> | the leaps forward in "Friendly" have been quite surprising, whilst at
> | Redmond we seem to have gone for the hostility factor :)
> |
> | Most of the live CD versions, although they take a while to load being
> | CD based, work remarkably well on a lot of hardware, including going
> | online. I actually like Vista although the "Novelty" color scheme gets
> | very tiring for work, but it does have some real competition coming
> | round the corner. :)
>
> Correct, in one corner there is Windows XP, in the other corner is the coming of
> Windows 7. Linux will need light year leaps and bounds to be considered a
> competitor to Windows, it is still not even an alternative to Windows in the
> market place. Linux does not seem to have the presence Windows has. You can even
> go to a local department store and buy a Windows CD, there are billboards, TV
> adds, radio commercials,... Say Ubuntu somewhere and people will say U Bum Who
> Too....?
>
> - Twista Vista

I certainly am not arguing about the lack of publicity, but frankly the
experience with Vista and on top of that numerous encounters with
WGA/WPA calling you a thief and Microsoft installing back doors to
deliver stealth updates is not a good sign for the adoption of Windows
7. Many businesses will not adopt Vista due to it's hardware
requirements, my company might only have a few hundred machines but they
won't see Vista at all, it is not needed for the work required.
 
nope he's just trying to find the best os there's is that is why i'm
shopping around for a free linux os(like that is hard to do, lol) that uses
32 bit drivers, actually found a couple, and i use them with virtualpc 2007
that way i get the very best os possible cuz windows just aint cuttin it.
especially with that microsft bs that they have a code so the nsa can spy on
you. i won't let them he he he

--
New Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
- note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -

Best Comments From Users:
Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth.

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults

Personnal Advice To You:
#1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User.
#2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You
#3: Windows Is Bad Enough In English, Why Get It In Another Language
"Frank" <fb@osspan.clm> wrote in message
news:Oy10rSuDIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> arkara wrote:
>> i have been a windows user for many years until one day i found out about
>> linux. many people when thay hear the word "linux" are terrified and tell
>> me that it is very very dificult.
>> this is wrong.
>>
>> linux over windows.
>> 1) its free
>> 2)its faster
>> 3) its much more secure
>> 4)has more bugfixes(people actualy work on open source)
>> 5)many many applications
>> 6) much of the hardware work out of the box
>> 7)you can try it without loosing any data using live cds
>> 8) linux has become very very easy to use and with no command line
>> 9) can easyly dual boot with windows
>> 10)most off all the ability to choose what you want
>> 11) did you know that microsoft has secret codes on its windows software
>> so that you are spyed on via the NSA?(national security agency)
>> 12)no DRM(digital rights management)
>> and many other things for you to discover.
>> 13)fully customizable to your needs
>>
>> windows over linux.
>> 1)widely accepted
>> 2)more apps
>> 3)easyer than linux(while linux is not so hard)
>> 4)more hardware support
>>
>> you can give linux a try. i dont say that is will work for you 100% but
>> the chances are good
>> some popular linux distributions with a large comunity are
>>
>> ubuntu: www.ubuntu.com
>> pclinuxos: www.pclinuxos.com
>> you can find more distributions on www.distrowatch.com
>>
>> most linux distributions have live cds.
>> you can download the iso image of the cd and then burn it on a cd or dvd
>> then boot from it (sometimes you must configure your bios in order to
>> boot first from cd drive)
>>
>> DISCLAIMER:THIS POST IS NOT OVEREVANGELIZING LINUX BUT JUST POINTS OUT
>> THAT IT IS A VIABLE SOLUTION TO WINDOWS. THERE CAN ALWAYS BE DIFICULTIES
>> WHEN CHANGING AN OPERATING SYSTEM. EVERY USER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN
>> SYSTEM AND DATA. AND BEFORE ANY ACTION DATA MUST BE BACKED UP.
>>
>> REMEMBER PEOPLE IT'S ALL ABOUT CHOICE AND MICROSOFT DOES NOT GIVE YOU ANY
>
> You're desperate or what?
> Frank
 
Computer & Sound System Tech wrote:
> nope he's just trying to find the best os there's is that is why i'm
> shopping around for a free linux os(like that is hard to do, lol) that
> uses 32 bit drivers, actually found a couple, and i use them with
> virtualpc 2007 that way i get the very best os possible cuz windows just
> aint cuttin it. especially with that microsft bs that they have a code
> so the nsa can spy on you. i won't let them he he he


ermm Microsoft Virtual PC ???

Now if there was ever an interesting place to put a back door :)

I couldn't care less about the NSA to be honest, the bigger problem from
an operational point of view is some stealth update that messes up a
process or some WGA/WPA malfunction that declares us illegal for a time.
MS have already admitted to both of those things in the same month, and
given the dependency of many companies on MS software they need to
address the problems / causes both rapidly and effectively, let's see
less of Ballmer dancing on the stage and more reliability please.

If you want easy Linux Ubuntu is maybe the answer, if you want solid
reliability Debian is good. Solaris is probably better if you can ever
get the F* thing to install on anything.
 
> REMEMBER PEOPLE IT'S ALL ABOUT CHOICE AND MICROSOFT DOES NOT GIVE YOU ANY


Too funny... "You are under the spell of MS: Buy Vista Now."

Good gosh... not! Like putting your final "claims of truth" in ALL CAPS
makes it so. Uh, no?

How about this? "Remember people, it's all about choice: make your own."
What a concept.

Lang
 
Too right Charlie, WPA, WGA, and especially DRM goes beyond the realm of
protecting intellect property, and is a pain in the butt. My main gripe with Linux
is it's marketing, MS is successful, too successful to the point where it's own
products are it's competition. I am not too sore about that, they took advantage
of the vacuum in the market. I have SuSE Linux, though I don't use it anymore,
then again I have Vista Ultimate, and I don't use it anymore, I do not know how
easily adaptable Ubuntu is, so as a consumer I will stick with familiarity,
Windows XP. Ubuntu Linux is not popular, there are far too many distro's which was
a point of pride for Linux but in my opinion it back fired. At one stage Linux was
spoken about and maybe used more that MacOS, but it is too confusing, what's a
distro? Which one should I have? There should only be one Linux, that has three
flavours to it, home, business-office and ultimate. I say that so when someone
says Linux, the consumer feels they know what is being spoken about, not get
confused with additional names like Red Hat, SuSE, Ubuntu, Storm, Debian,
Mandriva,...

I really like Windows, but as a consumer I would very much like to pay a lot less
for it, and there is only one way that can happen. That is MS has to be taken on
by an aggressive competitor in the desktop OS market, I think (as in my opinion)
ONE Linux would have much better hope at that. Linux needs to familiarise itself
to the consumer, not as an alternative, not as something better than Windows, but
as a Desktop Home-Entertainment Operating System I would **buy**, or get with my
next PC purchase. (Or office system for that matter).

- Twisted Vista


"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:eTtWcWuDIHA.3980@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Twisted Vista wrote:
| > "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
| > news:eeVxtutDIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | Titus Pullo wrote:
| > | >
| > | > "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
| > | > news:Ox5knJtDIHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | >> Titus Pullo wrote:
| > | >>>
| > | >>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
| > | >>> news:2310431F-C7BB-4E38-B434-0DBDD5D790EB@microsoft.com...
| > | >>>> People who advocate Open Sores Linux are truly miserable with their
| > | >>>> choice.
| > | >>>> It's obvious that they adhere to the old adage that "misery loves
| > | >>>> company".
| > | >>>> Every single arguement that offer to Windows users is blantently
| > | >>>> false and
| > | >>>> misleading.
| > | >>>> If you'll notice, there are over five (5) times the number of poor
| > | >>>> linux
| > | >>>> users looking for help in the linux newsgroups vs. the relativity
| > | >>>> low number
| > | >>>> of Windows users who post to this newsgroup. Linux is for losers!
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>
| > | >>> I wouldn't go so far as to say Linux is for losers, but it isn't for
| > | >>> someone who isn't very technically savvy. Easy tasks like installing
| > | >>> an application on Vista are much harder on any Linux distro. You have
| > | >>> to worry about dependencies, libraries, etc... Plus hardware support
| > | >>> with Linux is hit and miss. Maybe your graphics/sound/network card is
| > | >>> supported, maybe not. If not, you have to try and track it down on
| > | >>> the Internet, if it exists.
| > | >>>
| > | >>> I've tried a couple of Linux distros over the years and each time
| > | >>> concluded that Linux isn't worth bashing my head against a brick
| > | >>> wall. I'll stick with Vista.
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >> How many years ago was that exactly?
| > | >
| > | > Since about 2004. I've tried a couple of times. Fedora Core, SuSE. I
| > | > last tried SLED 10 about 2 months ago. No, it wasn't a shot at Linux in
| > | > 1998 and nothing since.
| > |
| > |
| > | I was genuinely curious because I've found in the last couple of years
| > | the leaps forward in "Friendly" have been quite surprising, whilst at
| > | Redmond we seem to have gone for the hostility factor :)
| > |
| > | Most of the live CD versions, although they take a while to load being
| > | CD based, work remarkably well on a lot of hardware, including going
| > | online. I actually like Vista although the "Novelty" color scheme gets
| > | very tiring for work, but it does have some real competition coming
| > | round the corner. :)
| >
| > Correct, in one corner there is Windows XP, in the other corner is the coming
of
| > Windows 7. Linux will need light year leaps and bounds to be considered a
| > competitor to Windows, it is still not even an alternative to Windows in the
| > market place. Linux does not seem to have the presence Windows has. You can
even
| > go to a local department store and buy a Windows CD, there are billboards, TV
| > adds, radio commercials,... Say Ubuntu somewhere and people will say U Bum Who
| > Too....?
| >
| > - Twista Vista
|
| I certainly am not arguing about the lack of publicity, but frankly the
| experience with Vista and on top of that numerous encounters with
| WGA/WPA calling you a thief and Microsoft installing back doors to
| deliver stealth updates is not a good sign for the adoption of Windows
| 7. Many businesses will not adopt Vista due to it's hardware
| requirements, my company might only have a few hundred machines but they
| won't see Vista at all, it is not needed for the work required.
 

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