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notinuse2@btinternet.com (Peter Hayes) wrote:
> > > You deal in forecasts all the time, so what's sauce for the goose is
> > > sauce for the gander. Only problem is, mine are accurate.
> >
> > Incorrect. you CLEARLY goofed by using a link that was based on
> > FORECASTS... while i CLEARLY corrected you by using real numbers
> > straight from both governments. The UK has about .8% poorer employment
> > of its people... that's a fact.
>
> You quoted a US unemployment figure, 4.6%, and I said it is rising,
> which is correct. It's up to you to either agree a rise in US
> unemployment, or to disagree, not to sidestep the comment with spurious
> complaints about perfectly valid charts.
but you quoted a link of a "forecast" by a non-governmental agency. my
report was correct. yours was not. the number is 4.7% not 4.6%.
unemployment is only up 1/10th of 1 percent in the US over the last few
months... hardly statistically significant. Meanwhile the UK has about
..7% more unemployment! thus it's a less productive society. thus you are
incorrect by a HUGE amount.
I like how you have removed all my links to cover your error!
http://www.bls.gov/ (the US)
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=12 (the UK)
> Part of the reason for this rise is the collapse of the US dollar. The
> collapse of the US $ against the £ and the ¤ illustrates the rising
> quality of life in Europe and the corresponding decline in the US.
there has been no "collapse" of the $, just a lowering of value because
of george bush. sure, europe is gaining under this poor presidency, but
life in the UK / EU is decades behind the US, whenever I visit the UK
I'm shocked at how poor the nation is. Only Norway seems to be about on
par with the US.
> > Actually, Gas prices in the States are declining and have been for
> > awhile now. Let's look at the last 1 year... is that fair enough?
>
> If you like. Petrol was $2.14 a year ago and is $2.80 now, give or take
> a cent, US average
Sure, but that's per liter or whatever, the US still runs circles around
other developed countries for the lowest fuel prices.
> > click on the last 3 months here:
> >
> > (interesting, a decline... thus you are wrong)
>
> All that proves is petrol prices are cyclic. Petrol was $2.14 a year ago
> and is $2.80 now. US average. Interesting, an upward trend... thus you
> are wrong.
yes, and I fully agree they are cyclical, but there hasn't been a time
in our lifetimes that US prices were MORE than UK prices. The UK has
practically no natural resources in this area while the US has near
unlimited supply if needed. Gas prices are up because of the "power" in
Washington at the moment. It's HOUSTON based... not middle america based
or even southern based as usual.
> It's so easy to destroy your argument, please try harder next time,
> thanks!
When you make an argument, let everyone know okay?
> > don't see much above $3 in "real-time"... thus you are wrong.
>
> The US average peaked at $3.24 on 17th May. It's fallen away a little
> since but the overall trend is upwards. Expect to pay at least £3.50
> next spring, unless something radical happens.
the "average" has now fallen to $2.80 or less... what? £3.50 that would
never happen. $4.93 per gallon? there would be riots in the streets.
Please check your facts before you post such nonsense.
> The wild fluctuations in price suggest an unstable market. Under these
> circumstances it won't take much to trigger off a rapid increase in
> price.
it reflects Katrina wiping out several refineries, and the whole silly
iraq war... once the war is over, and bush is gone, gas prices will drop
back down to $1.59 or so.
> > > I ask again, who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
> > > in Steve Jobs's world?
> >
> > She played a subservient hostess at PARC, serving Milk and Cookies
> > before all the "talent" left for Apple.
> >
> > Ouch!
> >
> > Proving once again, she had nothing to do with Steve and Apple!
>
> She played a much more crucial role than that. Try again.
Nothing that is documented. Try again.
> > > You deal in forecasts all the time, so what's sauce for the goose is
> > > sauce for the gander. Only problem is, mine are accurate.
> >
> > Incorrect. you CLEARLY goofed by using a link that was based on
> > FORECASTS... while i CLEARLY corrected you by using real numbers
> > straight from both governments. The UK has about .8% poorer employment
> > of its people... that's a fact.
>
> You quoted a US unemployment figure, 4.6%, and I said it is rising,
> which is correct. It's up to you to either agree a rise in US
> unemployment, or to disagree, not to sidestep the comment with spurious
> complaints about perfectly valid charts.
but you quoted a link of a "forecast" by a non-governmental agency. my
report was correct. yours was not. the number is 4.7% not 4.6%.
unemployment is only up 1/10th of 1 percent in the US over the last few
months... hardly statistically significant. Meanwhile the UK has about
..7% more unemployment! thus it's a less productive society. thus you are
incorrect by a HUGE amount.
I like how you have removed all my links to cover your error!
http://www.bls.gov/ (the US)
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=12 (the UK)
> Part of the reason for this rise is the collapse of the US dollar. The
> collapse of the US $ against the £ and the ¤ illustrates the rising
> quality of life in Europe and the corresponding decline in the US.
there has been no "collapse" of the $, just a lowering of value because
of george bush. sure, europe is gaining under this poor presidency, but
life in the UK / EU is decades behind the US, whenever I visit the UK
I'm shocked at how poor the nation is. Only Norway seems to be about on
par with the US.
> > Actually, Gas prices in the States are declining and have been for
> > awhile now. Let's look at the last 1 year... is that fair enough?
>
> If you like. Petrol was $2.14 a year ago and is $2.80 now, give or take
> a cent, US average
Sure, but that's per liter or whatever, the US still runs circles around
other developed countries for the lowest fuel prices.
> > click on the last 3 months here:
> >
> > (interesting, a decline... thus you are wrong)
>
> All that proves is petrol prices are cyclic. Petrol was $2.14 a year ago
> and is $2.80 now. US average. Interesting, an upward trend... thus you
> are wrong.
yes, and I fully agree they are cyclical, but there hasn't been a time
in our lifetimes that US prices were MORE than UK prices. The UK has
practically no natural resources in this area while the US has near
unlimited supply if needed. Gas prices are up because of the "power" in
Washington at the moment. It's HOUSTON based... not middle america based
or even southern based as usual.
> It's so easy to destroy your argument, please try harder next time,
> thanks!
When you make an argument, let everyone know okay?
> > don't see much above $3 in "real-time"... thus you are wrong.
>
> The US average peaked at $3.24 on 17th May. It's fallen away a little
> since but the overall trend is upwards. Expect to pay at least £3.50
> next spring, unless something radical happens.
the "average" has now fallen to $2.80 or less... what? £3.50 that would
never happen. $4.93 per gallon? there would be riots in the streets.
Please check your facts before you post such nonsense.
> The wild fluctuations in price suggest an unstable market. Under these
> circumstances it won't take much to trigger off a rapid increase in
> price.
it reflects Katrina wiping out several refineries, and the whole silly
iraq war... once the war is over, and bush is gone, gas prices will drop
back down to $1.59 or so.
> > > I ask again, who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
> > > in Steve Jobs's world?
> >
> > She played a subservient hostess at PARC, serving Milk and Cookies
> > before all the "talent" left for Apple.
> >
> > Ouch!
> >
> > Proving once again, she had nothing to do with Steve and Apple!
>
> She played a much more crucial role than that. Try again.
Nothing that is documented. Try again.
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