Rich-M
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OK Mike, expressed that way, I have to agree with your thinking.
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DSTM
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If I knew nothing about computers, I certainly wouldn't let anyone fix my computer that didn't have proper accreditation.
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DSTM
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There are plenty of courses on the net to learn IT and Computing, Mike.
Which you get a diploma or degree as such.
Then you can proudly display on your wall.
Some courses are free by the way.
Happy New Year.
Which you get a diploma or degree as such.
Then you can proudly display on your wall.
Some courses are free by the way.
Happy New Year.
allheart55 (Cindy E)
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I haven't officially attended any schools or taken any courses for computers.
Except for the school of hard knocks, maybe.
Except for the school of hard knocks, maybe.
Rich-M
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Me neither. I "hob nobbed" with two of the 4 people who wrote the Apple OS, that Windows was based on, but I have nothing on paper Dougie.
DSTM
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You both missed the point I was trying to make.If a computer tech was known to me, that's a different story.
If you rang someone out of the paper I would like to know if he was trained or self trained.
I wouldn't like just anybody using my expensive computer as a dummy so he could learn on my computer with trial and error.
I still think if Mike just learning to repair computers it would be a positive doing some course to further increase his knowledge so he would have both theory and practical experience at the same time and learn quicker.
I didn't do a course and I fix my own computers and I give them what for, believe me.
If I was repairing computers for a living then I would increase my knowledge further.
If you rang someone out of the paper I would like to know if he was trained or self trained.
I wouldn't like just anybody using my expensive computer as a dummy so he could learn on my computer with trial and error.
I still think if Mike just learning to repair computers it would be a positive doing some course to further increase his knowledge so he would have both theory and practical experience at the same time and learn quicker.
I didn't do a course and I fix my own computers and I give them what for, believe me.
If I was repairing computers for a living then I would increase my knowledge further.
Rich-M
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Twice I did take courses once on MIcrosoft and once on hardware and honestly I left both courses when I realized how much more I knew than the people giving the courses. I would bet Dan would say the same thing as would a lot of people in my business. Self taught is difficult to prove but then the majority of my new clients are referrals actually anyway though I do advertise in a couple of Merchandisers and a few town books published quarterly.
My take on this guys is before starting on the tech journey, I first put in the time and effort to learn the theory part of it by studying the A+ course from cover to cover and did the same with web design and development, I just never bothered to take the exams to get the certifications although I do see the advantages of having certifications. Thing is, it is my opinion that no amount of certifications can match experience and efficiency, how else would you explain people who come to me after having taken their machines to Staples, Best Buy and GeekSquad e.t.c only to spend a few hundred dollars and not get their machines properly fixed. I have solved many pc problems in those situations from the help here and on the net.
The way I see it, being a good tech means being experienced and efficient above everything else, as an example, I spend a few hours tops trying everything I know on a problem I haven't encountered before and if that doesn't solve it I immediately go to google first then when that doesn't work I go to the forums and I post the same questions on different forums hoping to get the help from someone or somewhere as quickly as possible. Now does that make me a bad tech because I can't solve the problem off of my own knowledge and experience? If you as a Tech were the average customer, who would you take your machine to, the certified tech who would spend a week trying to fix a problem on his own or would you take it to an apprentice like myself who will find a way to get you machine repaired in a day or two?
There is a reason why Dr. House is my favorite tech show because that is who I am and what I believe in, you are presented with a problem you can't solve on your own first then you go seek help from whatever sources or from whoever can help you find that solution, I'd like to think that is why a lot of people who come to me show me their appreciation because I will tell anyone "I don't know everything but I will find a way to solve your problem, that you can count on!"
The way I see it, being a good tech means being experienced and efficient above everything else, as an example, I spend a few hours tops trying everything I know on a problem I haven't encountered before and if that doesn't solve it I immediately go to google first then when that doesn't work I go to the forums and I post the same questions on different forums hoping to get the help from someone or somewhere as quickly as possible. Now does that make me a bad tech because I can't solve the problem off of my own knowledge and experience? If you as a Tech were the average customer, who would you take your machine to, the certified tech who would spend a week trying to fix a problem on his own or would you take it to an apprentice like myself who will find a way to get you machine repaired in a day or two?
There is a reason why Dr. House is my favorite tech show because that is who I am and what I believe in, you are presented with a problem you can't solve on your own first then you go seek help from whatever sources or from whoever can help you find that solution, I'd like to think that is why a lot of people who come to me show me their appreciation because I will tell anyone "I don't know everything but I will find a way to solve your problem, that you can count on!"
Rich-M
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Mike, anyone of us who won't admit to an occasional "Google" to solve a difficult issue is probably a liar.
But I have known many Mcse certified people who didn't know how to take a side off a tower as well so to me the certification means exactly nothing. I saw that when early on I went to take those courses. The other thing I saw was techs who were Mcse certified in say Windows 2000 who didn't even know what Windows 7 was.
But I have known many Mcse certified people who didn't know how to take a side off a tower as well so to me the certification means exactly nothing. I saw that when early on I went to take those courses. The other thing I saw was techs who were Mcse certified in say Windows 2000 who didn't even know what Windows 7 was.
YES, that's my opinion too, that's why as mentioned these young guys who have their Bsc in Computer science degree who work for the main repair stores, a lot of them can't even do certain repairs any better than I can and you guys here definitely have an edge over them. I know this because of what customers tell me who bring their pc's to me to fix after trying those stores, there are just many things involved in pc repair which you won't find any book, that is a fact.
allheart55 (Cindy E)
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I hear you, Mike. I constantly get the Geek Squad mess ups.
Rich-M
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Geek Squad and Staples screw-ups are some of my best referrals
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