Have you though about using Ubuntu? Read this.

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>
>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>> message news:nzrRj.23322$Iz3.12038@fe84.usenetserver.com...
>>> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well don't, It really does suck. I though I would be fare and give it
>>>> a try, (installed v8.04) I've used Microsoft OS since Windows 3.1. I
>>>> tried it for awhile and it is not worth a crap.
>>>
>>> A while = ?
>>>
>>>> Anything you want to do is 10 times more involving to get accomplished
>>>> and hardware support is a joke. Not to mention necessary applications
>>>> that a person needs to manage their needs.
>>>
>>> What were you hardware problems, and what software did you need that
>>> you couldn't find?
>>>
>>>> Just forget about playing a game from this decade also,
>>>
>>> http://www.vgpro.com/article/5_killer_pc_games_playable_on_ub
>>>
>>>> so save yourself
>>>> the time it takes to download the program (4hrs, 61KiB/s through put
>>>> was all the server would allow for a connection)
>>>
>>> Didn't change your Software Source to a server near you, and kept the
>>> default server, huh?
>>>
>>> That is such a n00b mistake, but one that is easily remedied.
>>>
>>>> and stick with a proven OS
>>>> that has a real future for all and keep your Windows.
>>>
>>> Because you were too ignorant to give Linux a real try?
>>>
>>>> I've been using Vista from the begging
>>>
>>> MS makes their users beg to use Vista? No wonder it is much slower in
>>> being adopted as compared to XP!
>>>
>>>> and it is just wonderful.
>>>
>>> Yep, some people actually think its wonderful to get down on their
>>> knees.
>>>
>>>> Any
>>>> complaining you here about it is coming from about 1% or less of
>>>> users. It will always be that way so don't worry about it.
>>>
>>> Really? Then why is Vista's user base not growing at the same rate or
>>> better than XP did?
>>>
>>>> P.S. I know this is off topic for the forum but after reading some
>>>> posts here I just needed to speak my mind. Thanks and have a great
>>>> Vista day.......
>>>
>>> You don't even know enough not to post to the USENET in HTML, so why
>>> should we take your opinion seriously?
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Sorry kurttrail you can pick my post apart all you want, it will never
>> change the fact that I now Ubuntu is a huge piece of crap.............
>
> Then why not honestly answer my questions to you? What do you have to
> hide if you really do know for a fact that "Ubuntu is a huge piece of
> crap?"
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Former Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>

Ubuntu is a hughe piece of crap. Everyone knows it. That's why Ubuntu
while being FREEEEEEEE, still has under 1% of the desktop. Imagine, a FREE
product that NOBODY wants. Has to tell you boatloads about that product.
 
NetBiznessMan wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:gwzRj.21566$Oo2.7079@fe35.usenetserver.com...
>> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>>
>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>>> message news:nzrRj.23322$Iz3.12038@fe84.usenetserver.com...
>>>> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well don't, It really does suck. I though I would be fare and give
>>>>> it a try, (installed v8.04) I've used Microsoft OS since Windows
>>>>> 3.1. I tried it for awhile and it is not worth a crap.
>>>>
>>>> A while = ?
>>>>
>>>>> Anything you want to do is 10 times more involving to get
>>>>> accomplished and hardware support is a joke. Not to mention
>>>>> necessary applications that a person needs to manage their needs.
>>>>
>>>> What were you hardware problems, and what software did you need that
>>>> you couldn't find?
>>>>
>>>>> Just forget about playing a game from this decade also,
>>>>
>>>> http://www.vgpro.com/article/5_killer_pc_games_playable_on_ub
>>>>
>>>>> so save yourself
>>>>> the time it takes to download the program (4hrs, 61KiB/s through put
>>>>> was all the server would allow for a connection)
>>>>
>>>> Didn't change your Software Source to a server near you, and kept the
>>>> default server, huh?
>>>>
>>>> That is such a n00b mistake, but one that is easily remedied.
>>>>
>>>>> and stick with a proven OS
>>>>> that has a real future for all and keep your Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Because you were too ignorant to give Linux a real try?
>>>>
>>>>> I've been using Vista from the begging
>>>>
>>>> MS makes their users beg to use Vista? No wonder it is much slower
>>>> in being adopted as compared to XP!
>>>>
>>>>> and it is just wonderful.
>>>>
>>>> Yep, some people actually think its wonderful to get down on their
>>>> knees.
>>>>
>>>>> Any
>>>>> complaining you here about it is coming from about 1% or less of
>>>>> users. It will always be that way so don't worry about it.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Then why is Vista's user base not growing at the same rate
>>>> or better than XP did?
>>>>
>>>>> P.S. I know this is off topic for the forum but after reading some
>>>>> posts here I just needed to speak my mind. Thanks and have a great
>>>>> Vista day.......
>>>>
>>>> You don't even know enough not to post to the USENET in HTML, so why
>>>> should we take your opinion seriously?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> Sorry kurttrail you can pick my post apart all you want, it will never
>>> change the fact that I now Ubuntu is a huge piece of crap.............
>>
>> Then why not honestly answer my questions to you? What do you have to
>> hide if you really do know for a fact that "Ubuntu is a huge piece of
>> crap?"
>>
>> --
>
> I don't know what you mean by hiding, I'm right here........ You asked
> no question of me,

"What were you(r) hardware problems, and what software did you need that
you couldn't find?"

"Didn't change your Software Source to a server near you, and kept the
default server, huh?"

"Because you were too ignorant to give Linux a real try?"

"MS makes their users beg to use Vista?"

"Really? Then why is Vista's user base not growing at the same rate or
better than XP did?"

"You don't even know enough not to post to the USENET in HTML, so why
should we take your opinion seriously?"

Naw, I didn't ask you any questions at all! /sarcasm

And then you have the temerity to feign that I didn't ask any questions
at all!

Boy, are you just completely full of sh*t, or what?

> you just criticized the things in my original post.

Criticism isn't a bad thing except to those that are close-minded to
begin with.

> I
> don't know were you live but last I check I live in the USA and I can
> have any opinion I want to, and my opinion after trying Ubuntu is it
> SUCKS.

Yes, you are can believe in talking snakes, if that's what you want to
believe in.

But since you have given us your unsolicited opinion, you should be able
to explain why, especially if you aren't just BSing us.

> If you have any questions feel free to ask.

I already have, and I've repeated them here, now it is just a matter of
whether you are man enough to answer them.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:gwzRj.21566$Oo2.7079@fe35.usenetserver.com...
>> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>>
>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>>> message news:nzrRj.23322$Iz3.12038@fe84.usenetserver.com...
>>>> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well don't, It really does suck. I though I would be fare and give
>>>>> it a try, (installed v8.04) I've used Microsoft OS since Windows
>>>>> 3.1. I tried it for awhile and it is not worth a crap.
>>>>
>>>> A while = ?
>>>>
>>>>> Anything you want to do is 10 times more involving to get
>>>>> accomplished and hardware support is a joke. Not to mention
>>>>> necessary applications that a person needs to manage their needs.
>>>>
>>>> What were you hardware problems, and what software did you need that
>>>> you couldn't find?
>>>>
>>>>> Just forget about playing a game from this decade also,
>>>>
>>>> http://www.vgpro.com/article/5_killer_pc_games_playable_on_ub
>>>>
>>>>> so save yourself
>>>>> the time it takes to download the program (4hrs, 61KiB/s through put
>>>>> was all the server would allow for a connection)
>>>>
>>>> Didn't change your Software Source to a server near you, and kept the
>>>> default server, huh?
>>>>
>>>> That is such a n00b mistake, but one that is easily remedied.
>>>>
>>>>> and stick with a proven OS
>>>>> that has a real future for all and keep your Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Because you were too ignorant to give Linux a real try?
>>>>
>>>>> I've been using Vista from the begging
>>>>
>>>> MS makes their users beg to use Vista? No wonder it is much slower
>>>> in being adopted as compared to XP!
>>>>
>>>>> and it is just wonderful.
>>>>
>>>> Yep, some people actually think its wonderful to get down on their
>>>> knees.
>>>>
>>>>> Any
>>>>> complaining you here about it is coming from about 1% or less of
>>>>> users. It will always be that way so don't worry about it.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Then why is Vista's user base not growing at the same rate
>>>> or better than XP did?
>>>>
>>>>> P.S. I know this is off topic for the forum but after reading some
>>>>> posts here I just needed to speak my mind. Thanks and have a great
>>>>> Vista day.......
>>>>
>>>> You don't even know enough not to post to the USENET in HTML, so why
>>>> should we take your opinion seriously?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> Sorry kurttrail you can pick my post apart all you want, it will never
>>> change the fact that I now Ubuntu is a huge piece of crap.............
>>
>> Then why not honestly answer my questions to you? What do you have to
>> hide if you really do know for a fact that "Ubuntu is a huge piece of
>> crap?"
>>
> Ubuntu is a hughe piece of crap. Everyone knows it. That's why Ubuntu
> while being FREEEEEEEE, still has under 1% of the desktop. Imagine, a
> FREE product that NOBODY wants. Has to tell you boatloads about that
> product.

Don't use it then. No one is forcing it on you. It's not like I started
this thread about Ubuntu anyway.

I love how it is the Win Fanboys that bring up Linux more than I do.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
someone needs to stay awake in class. his grammar is terrible.
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:2IGRj.13193$4X5.1467@fe192.usenetserver.com...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>
>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>> message news:gwzRj.21566$Oo2.7079@fe35.usenetserver.com...
>>> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>>>
>>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>>>> message news:nzrRj.23322$Iz3.12038@fe84.usenetserver.com...
>>>>> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well don't, It really does suck. I though I would be fare and give
>>>>>> it a try, (installed v8.04) I've used Microsoft OS since Windows
>>>>>> 3.1. I tried it for awhile and it is not worth a crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> A while = ?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anything you want to do is 10 times more involving to get
>>>>>> accomplished and hardware support is a joke. Not to mention
>>>>>> necessary applications that a person needs to manage their needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> What were you hardware problems, and what software did you need that
>>>>> you couldn't find?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just forget about playing a game from this decade also,
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.vgpro.com/article/5_killer_pc_games_playable_on_ub
>>>>>
>>>>>> so save yourself
>>>>>> the time it takes to download the program (4hrs, 61KiB/s through put
>>>>>> was all the server would allow for a connection)
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't change your Software Source to a server near you, and kept the
>>>>> default server, huh?
>>>>>
>>>>> That is such a n00b mistake, but one that is easily remedied.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and stick with a proven OS
>>>>>> that has a real future for all and keep your Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because you were too ignorant to give Linux a real try?
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been using Vista from the begging
>>>>>
>>>>> MS makes their users beg to use Vista? No wonder it is much slower
>>>>> in being adopted as compared to XP!
>>>>>
>>>>>> and it is just wonderful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, some people actually think its wonderful to get down on their
>>>>> knees.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any
>>>>>> complaining you here about it is coming from about 1% or less of
>>>>>> users. It will always be that way so don't worry about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? Then why is Vista's user base not growing at the same rate
>>>>> or better than XP did?
>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. I know this is off topic for the forum but after reading some
>>>>>> posts here I just needed to speak my mind. Thanks and have a great
>>>>>> Vista day.......
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't even know enough not to post to the USENET in HTML, so why
>>>>> should we take your opinion seriously?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Sorry kurttrail you can pick my post apart all you want, it will never
>>>> change the fact that I now Ubuntu is a huge piece of crap.............
>>>
>>> Then why not honestly answer my questions to you? What do you have to
>>> hide if you really do know for a fact that "Ubuntu is a huge piece of
>>> crap?"
>>>
>> Ubuntu is a hughe piece of crap. Everyone knows it. That's why Ubuntu
>> while being FREEEEEEEE, still has under 1% of the desktop. Imagine, a
>> FREE product that NOBODY wants. Has to tell you boatloads about that
>> product.
>
> Don't use it then. No one is forcing it on you. It's not like I started
> this thread about Ubuntu anyway.
>
> I love how it is the Win Fanboys that bring up Linux more than I do.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Former Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
 
MUST I EXPLAIN EVERYTHING? ...This is very fundamental stuff... you guys
should try reading a few books.

the fanboys (like you) forget (or are unaware) that to define anything, even
an OS, you
must contrast it with surrounding elements or in this case other OS.

THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL "LAW OF COMPARISON" THE PERMEATES THE UNIVERSE~!

It exist both in art and in science and applies to everything.

You cannot measure if something is cold or hot for example if you do not
have a frame of reference,
since the temperature is calculated as a difference. This is basic
thermodynamics.

In art there cannot exist form color or lightiing without contrast.

You cannot define if vista is good or bad, its nice features and its dumb
problems, unless you can compare it with other products. Some are XP, ubuntu
and Mac OS.

If they want us to not compare what they are asking is only for us to praise
vista as a perfect godlike OS that is above any criticism and comparison,
and that aint gonna happen.

Even Microsoft has taken a very good look at ubuntu, and they have copied
some elements from GNOME almost exactly ... lol I was just on ubuntu 8.04
and noticed that when you click on the date (on the panel (like taskbar of
windows) its extremely similar behavior to vista when you do that... even
the graphic when this area is pressed seems similar.


"Lang Murphy" <langmurf@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:S_xRj.58134$rC6.5762@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> Clear Windows wrote:
>> I really do not think that comparisons between Vista and Ubuntu or other
>> OS are off topic.
>>
>
> So... you post about Ubuntu in OS X NG's or on the Apple discussion
> forums?
>
>
>> Its important for people to be informed of choices, and that will keep
>> Microsoft on guard to improve their products because of competition.
>
> What? Your posts are educating folks? Puh-lease.
>
>>
>> Alias mostly compares vista with ubuntu... Since vista is on one side of
>> the comparison, it is on-topic.
>
> That guy -only- compares Vista with Ubuntu. So I guess it would be OK to
> compare Vista with anything then... Vista vs. Solaris. Vista vs. Red Hat.
> Oops, they threw in the towel on the desktop.
>
>>
>> Failed again MVP, huh?.... being a stubborn net cop is not looked upon
>> positively in newsgroups.
>
> And being a stubborn net jihadist is not appreciated either. Ubuntu in
> Ubuntu NG's. Seems pretty straightforward...
>
> Lang
>
>>
>>
>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote in message
>> news:ur$BZWWqIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Alias and I have only one thing in common with regard
>>> to operating systems. He claims he has no issues whatsoever running
>>> Ubuntu and I have no issues whatsoever running Windows Vista.
>>>
>>> However, Alias cannot seem to understand that this is
>>> a Windows Vista newsgroup and he really needs to take
>>> his "business" (sic) to the Ubuntu forums.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carey Frisch
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>> Windows Desktop Experience -
>>> Windows Vista Enthusiast
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> "Bill Yanaire" wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried Ubuntu for a few days and that was enough. Off it went into the
>>> bit bucket. Ubuntu may be good for some, but if you need
>>> to rely on MS products, Ubuntu isn't the way to go.
>>>
>>> Now let's wait for Alias to chime in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 
Clear Windows wrote:

> MUST I EXPLAIN EVERYTHING? ...This is very fundamental stuff... you guys
> should try reading a few books.

You couldn't explain why it is light during the day and dark at night.
>
> the fanboys (like you) forget (or are unaware) that to define anything,
> even an OS, you
> must contrast it with surrounding elements or in this case other OS.

What a load of crap!
>
> THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL "LAW OF COMPARISON" THE PERMEATES THE UNIVERSE~!

Oh no, here he goes again...LOL!
>
> It exist both in art and in science and applies to everything.
>
> You cannot measure if something is cold or hot for example if you do not
> have a frame of reference,
> since the temperature is calculated as a difference. This is basic
> thermodynamics.
>
> In art there cannot exist form color or lightiing without contrast.

OMG...you either didn't take your meds or else you took too many!
>
> You cannot define if vista is good or bad, its nice features and its dumb
> problems, unless you can compare it with other products.

Now that is just pure unadulterated bullsh*t!

Some are XP,
> ubuntu
> and Mac OS.
>
> If they want us to not compare what they are asking is only for us to
> praise
> vista as a perfect godlike OS that is above any criticism and comparison,
> and that aint gonna happen.

You need to get some real help with your psychosis.
>
> Even Microsoft has taken a very good look at ubuntu, and they have copied
> some elements from GNOME almost exactly ... lol I was just on ubuntu 8.04
> and noticed that when you click on the date (on the panel (like taskbar of
> windows) its extremely similar behavior to vista when you do that... even
> the graphic when this area is pressed seems similar.
>
Well cc, the above is nothing more than a totally worthless meaningless
diatribe.

You need to do three things:
1) stop posting your Vista hated filled rants. Once was enough.
2) stop posting bullsh*t URL links that have nothing to do with Vista.
3) give us your phone number at the help desk where you work so we can
all call you up and pretend we have problems so you can try and bullsh*t
us into believing that you know what you're talking about ok?
The number please...?
Frank
 
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:2EGRj.13192$4X5.5115@fe192.usenetserver.com...
> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>
>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>> message news:gwzRj.21566$Oo2.7079@fe35.usenetserver.com...
>>> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>>>
>>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>>>> message news:nzrRj.23322$Iz3.12038@fe84.usenetserver.com...
>>>>> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well don't, It really does suck. I though I would be fare and give
>>>>>> it a try, (installed v8.04) I've used Microsoft OS since Windows
>>>>>> 3.1. I tried it for awhile and it is not worth a crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> A while = ?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anything you want to do is 10 times more involving to get
>>>>>> accomplished and hardware support is a joke. Not to mention
>>>>>> necessary applications that a person needs to manage their needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> What were you hardware problems, and what software did you need that
>>>>> you couldn't find?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just forget about playing a game from this decade also,
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.vgpro.com/article/5_killer_pc_games_playable_on_ub
>>>>>
>>>>>> so save yourself
>>>>>> the time it takes to download the program (4hrs, 61KiB/s through put
>>>>>> was all the server would allow for a connection)
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't change your Software Source to a server near you, and kept the
>>>>> default server, huh?
>>>>>
>>>>> That is such a n00b mistake, but one that is easily remedied.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and stick with a proven OS
>>>>>> that has a real future for all and keep your Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because you were too ignorant to give Linux a real try?
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been using Vista from the begging
>>>>>
>>>>> MS makes their users beg to use Vista? No wonder it is much slower
>>>>> in being adopted as compared to XP!
>>>>>
>>>>>> and it is just wonderful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, some people actually think its wonderful to get down on their
>>>>> knees.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any
>>>>>> complaining you here about it is coming from about 1% or less of
>>>>>> users. It will always be that way so don't worry about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? Then why is Vista's user base not growing at the same rate
>>>>> or better than XP did?
>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. I know this is off topic for the forum but after reading some
>>>>>> posts here I just needed to speak my mind. Thanks and have a great
>>>>>> Vista day.......
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't even know enough not to post to the USENET in HTML, so why
>>>>> should we take your opinion seriously?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Sorry kurttrail you can pick my post apart all you want, it will never
>>>> change the fact that I now Ubuntu is a huge piece of crap.............
>>>
>>> Then why not honestly answer my questions to you? What do you have to
>>> hide if you really do know for a fact that "Ubuntu is a huge piece of
>>> crap?"
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> I don't know what you mean by hiding, I'm right here........ You asked
>> no question of me,



OK, lets take a look at this.

> "What were you(r) hardware problems, and what software did you need that
> you couldn't find?"

Your right that is a question.
Answer: Ubuntu did not make full use of my video card, openGL to be
specific. Software would be my games and apps that needed full use of my
video card.

> "Didn't change your Software Source to a server near you, and kept the
> default server, huh?"

That is not a question it is a statement.

> "Because you were too ignorant to give Linux a real try?"

That is not a question it is a statement.

> "MS makes their users beg to use Vista?"

That is not a question it is a statement.

> "Really? Then why is Vista's user base not growing at the same rate or
> better than XP did?"

Your right that is a question.
Answer: Your asking the wrong person, I never started a post about MS OS
growth rate. My post is about how bad Ubuntu sucks.

> "You don't even know enough not to post to the USENET in HTML, so why
> should we take your opinion seriously?"

That is a statement and a question.
Answer: I know people like to post in plan text, but I don't care. Also I
don't care if you take my opinion seriously either.

> Naw, I didn't ask you any questions at all! /sarcasm
>
> And then you have the temerity to feign that I didn't ask any questions
> at all!

What can I say the questions were overlooked in all the sarcasm and crap.

> Boy, are you just completely full of sh*t, or what?

Answer: No

>> you just criticized the things in my original post.
>
> Criticism isn't a bad thing except to those that are close-minded to
> begin with.

Answer: I'm starting to believe you would be the one to know.

>> I don't know were you live but last I check I live in the USA and I can
>> have any opinion I want to, and my opinion after trying Ubuntu is it
>> SUCKS.
>
> Yes, you are can believe in talking snakes, if that's what you want to
> believe in.

Answer: What?

> But since you have given us your unsolicited opinion, you should be able
> to explain why, especially if you aren't just BSing us.

Answer: That's why it's called an opinion, because it's mine. You can have
your own, if you like.

>> If you have any questions feel free to ask.
>
> I already have, and I've repeated them here, now it is just a matter of
> whether you are man enough to answer them.

Answer: Yes

NetBiznessMan
 
NetBiznessMan wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:2EGRj.13192$4X5.5115@fe192.usenetserver.com...
>> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>>
>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>>> message news:gwzRj.21566$Oo2.7079@fe35.usenetserver.com...
>>>> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>>>>> message news:nzrRj.23322$Iz3.12038@fe84.usenetserver.com...
>>>>>> NetBiznessMan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well don't, It really does suck. I though I would be fare and give
>>>>>>> it a try, (installed v8.04) I've used Microsoft OS since Windows
>>>>>>> 3.1. I tried it for awhile and it is not worth a crap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A while = ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anything you want to do is 10 times more involving to get
>>>>>>> accomplished and hardware support is a joke. Not to mention
>>>>>>> necessary applications that a person needs to manage their needs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What were you hardware problems, and what software did you need
>>>>>> that you couldn't find?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just forget about playing a game from this decade also,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.vgpro.com/article/5_killer_pc_games_playable_on_ub
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so save yourself
>>>>>>> the time it takes to download the program (4hrs, 61KiB/s through
>>>>>>> put was all the server would allow for a connection)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't change your Software Source to a server near you, and kept
>>>>>> the default server, huh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is such a n00b mistake, but one that is easily remedied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and stick with a proven OS
>>>>>>> that has a real future for all and keep your Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because you were too ignorant to give Linux a real try?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been using Vista from the begging
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MS makes their users beg to use Vista? No wonder it is much slower
>>>>>> in being adopted as compared to XP!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and it is just wonderful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, some people actually think its wonderful to get down on their
>>>>>> knees.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any
>>>>>>> complaining you here about it is coming from about 1% or less of
>>>>>>> users. It will always be that way so don't worry about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? Then why is Vista's user base not growing at the same rate
>>>>>> or better than XP did?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.S. I know this is off topic for the forum but after reading some
>>>>>>> posts here I just needed to speak my mind. Thanks and have a great
>>>>>>> Vista day.......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't even know enough not to post to the USENET in HTML, so
>>>>>> why should we take your opinion seriously?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry kurttrail you can pick my post apart all you want, it will
>>>>> never change the fact that I now Ubuntu is a huge piece of
>>>>> crap.............
>>>>
>>>> Then why not honestly answer my questions to you? What do you have
>>>> to hide if you really do know for a fact that "Ubuntu is a huge piece
>>>> of crap?"
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> I don't know what you mean by hiding, I'm right here........ You asked
>>> no question of me,
>
>
>
> OK, lets take a look at this.
>
>> "What were you(r) hardware problems, and what software did you need
>> that you couldn't find?"
>
> Your right that is a question.
> Answer: Ubuntu did not make full use of my video card, openGL to be
> specific. Software would be my games and apps that needed full use of my
> video card.

Did you install the proprietary driver for it using Hardware Drivers app?

What card? What specific apps had problems?

>
>> "Didn't change your Software Source to a server near you, and kept the
>> default server, huh?"
>
> That is not a question it is a statement.

No it was a question. Did you or did you not change to a server near you
in Software Sources? I assume not, since you were complaining about how
slow, but that's why I added the "huh?" so you answer yes or no.

Too bad you are too dense to figure that out.

>
>> "Because you were too ignorant to give Linux a real try?"
>
> That is not a question it is a statement.

It was a question when it was in the context of what you had written.
Was it that hard to go back a couple of posts to figure that out?

No, it's that you are intentionally trying to make this hard, like you
did in your lame attempt at using Ubuntu.

And that is what I've demonstrated with these questions to you. That you
are intentionally making this harder than it really is.

>> "MS makes their users beg to use Vista?"
>
> That is not a question it is a statement.

Again it was a question that makes sense in the context in which it was
written. Had you not been trying to make this like pulling teeth, it
would have been easy for you to say that you had just made a typing
mistake.

>
>> "Really? Then why is Vista's user base not growing at the same rate or
>> better than XP did?"
>
> Your right that is a question.
> Answer: Your asking the wrong person, I never started a post about MS OS
> growth rate. My post is about how bad Ubuntu sucks.

No, what you said was, and I quote, "Any complaining you here about it
[Vista] is coming from about 1% or less of users. It will always be that
way so don't worry about it."

If Vista was only pissing off 1% of users, why is it not growing as fast
as XP?

IOWs, if vista doesn't really suck, then why don't more people want it
than XP?

Anyone that is being honest knows that Vista is a problem child, and even
MS acknowledges it.

So you were the one that brought up Vista not me. Too bad you can't be
honest about it.

>> "You don't even know enough not to post to the USENET in HTML, so why
>> should we take your opinion seriously?"
>
> That is a statement and a question.
> Answer: I know people like to post in plan text, but I don't care.

LOL!

> Also
> I don't care if you take my opinion seriously either.

I don't, as it is obvious that you sabotage your Ubuntu experience right
from the get-go.

>
>> Naw, I didn't ask you any questions at all! /sarcasm
>>
>> And then you have the temerity to feign that I didn't ask any questions
>> at all!
>
> What can I say the questions were overlooked in all the sarcasm and
> crap.

BS.

>
>> Boy, are you just completely full of sh*t, or what?
>
> Answer: No

So you are saying that there is still some more room, before you are
totally filled up with sh*t, huh?

>
>>> you just criticized the things in my original post.
>>
>> Criticism isn't a bad thing except to those that are close-minded to
>> begin with.
>
> Answer: I'm starting to believe you would be the one to know.

Yeah, I accept criticism as well as I give it.

>
>>> I don't know were you live but last I check I live in the USA and I
>>> can have any opinion I want to, and my opinion after trying Ubuntu is
>>> it SUCKS.
>>
>> Yes, you are can believe in talking snakes, if that's what you want to
>> believe in.
>
> Answer: What?

IOWs, for the mentally challenged. Your opinion ain't worth much,
because it is quite obvious that you installed Ubuntu, with the intention
of it sucking right from the very start. Your "opinion" is merely a self-
fulfilled prophesy.

>
>> But since you have given us your unsolicited opinion, you should be
>> able to explain why, especially if you aren't just BSing us.
>
> Answer: That's why it's called an opinion, because it's mine. You can
> have your own, if you like.

IOWs you aren't even man enough to explain yourself, because in doing so,
you would out your bias.

>
>>> If you have any questions feel free to ask.
>>
>> I already have, and I've repeated them here, now it is just a matter of
>> whether you are man enough to answer them.
>
> Answer: Yes

LOL! If you think your obvious evasions, and you purposeful denseness
show us what kind of man you really are then you are right, but I doubt
its the kind of man you think you are.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
ignorance permits your vista bliss

"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:uKiFPYiqIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Clear Windows wrote:
>
>> MUST I EXPLAIN EVERYTHING? ...This is very fundamental stuff... you guys
>> should try reading a few books.
>
> You couldn't explain why it is light during the day and dark at night.
>>
>> the fanboys (like you) forget (or are unaware) that to define anything,
>> even an OS, you
>> must contrast it with surrounding elements or in this case other OS.
>
> What a load of crap!
>>
>> THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL "LAW OF COMPARISON" THE PERMEATES THE UNIVERSE~!
>
> Oh no, here he goes again...LOL!
>>
>> It exist both in art and in science and applies to everything.
>>
>> You cannot measure if something is cold or hot for example if you do not
>> have a frame of reference,
>> since the temperature is calculated as a difference. This is basic
>> thermodynamics.
>>
>> In art there cannot exist form color or lightiing without contrast.
>
> OMG...you either didn't take your meds or else you took too many!
>>
>> You cannot define if vista is good or bad, its nice features and its dumb
>> problems, unless you can compare it with other products.
>
> Now that is just pure unadulterated bullsh*t!
>
> Some are XP,
>> ubuntu
>> and Mac OS.
>>
>> If they want us to not compare what they are asking is only for us to
>> praise
>> vista as a perfect godlike OS that is above any criticism and comparison,
>> and that aint gonna happen.
>
> You need to get some real help with your psychosis.
>>
>> Even Microsoft has taken a very good look at ubuntu, and they have copied
>> some elements from GNOME almost exactly ... lol I was just on ubuntu
>> 8.04
>> and noticed that when you click on the date (on the panel (like taskbar
>> of
>> windows) its extremely similar behavior to vista when you do that... even
>> the graphic when this area is pressed seems similar.
>>
> Well cc, the above is nothing more than a totally worthless meaningless
> diatribe.
>
> You need to do three things:
> 1) stop posting your Vista hated filled rants. Once was enough.
> 2) stop posting bullsh*t URL links that have nothing to do with Vista.
> 3) give us your phone number at the help desk where you work so we can all
> call you up and pretend we have problems so you can try and bullsh*t us
> into believing that you know what you're talking about ok?
> The number please...?
> Frank
>
 
NetBiznessMan wrote:
> Well don't, It really does suck. I though I would be fare and give it a try, (installed v8.04) I've used Microsoft OS since Windows 3.1. I tried it for awhile and it is not worth a crap.
>
> Anything you want to do is 10 times more involving to get accomplished and hardware support is a joke. Not to mention necessary applications that a person needs to manage their needs.
>
> Just forget about playing a game from this decade also, so save yourself the time it takes to download the program (4hrs, 61KiB/s through put was all the server would allow for a connection) and stick with a proven OS that has a real future for all and keep your Windows.
>
> I've been using Vista from the begging and it is just wonderful. Any complaining you here about it is coming from about 1% or less of users. It will always be that way so don't worry about it.
>
> P.S. I know this is off topic for the forum but after reading some posts here I just needed to speak my mind. Thanks and have a great Vista day.......
>
> NetBiznessMan
>

Is English your first language? Do you really think your off the wall
generalizations prove anything other than they fact that you don't know
what the HELL you're talking about?

So, now that you're using Vista, try and learn how to set your line wrap
in Windows Fail.

Alias
 
Clear Windows wrote:
> ignorance permits your vista bliss

More like stupidity.

Alias
>
> "Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
> news:uKiFPYiqIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Clear Windows wrote:
>>
>>> MUST I EXPLAIN EVERYTHING? ...This is very fundamental stuff... you
>>> guys should try reading a few books.
>>
>> You couldn't explain why it is light during the day and dark at night.
>>>
>>> the fanboys (like you) forget (or are unaware) that to define
>>> anything, even an OS, you
>>> must contrast it with surrounding elements or in this case other OS.
>>
>> What a load of crap!
>>>
>>> THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL "LAW OF COMPARISON" THE PERMEATES THE UNIVERSE~!
>>
>> Oh no, here he goes again...LOL!
>>>
>>> It exist both in art and in science and applies to everything.
>>>
>>> You cannot measure if something is cold or hot for example if you do
>>> not have a frame of reference,
>>> since the temperature is calculated as a difference. This is basic
>>> thermodynamics.
>>>
>>> In art there cannot exist form color or lightiing without contrast.
>>
>> OMG...you either didn't take your meds or else you took too many!
>>>
>>> You cannot define if vista is good or bad, its nice features and its
>>> dumb
>>> problems, unless you can compare it with other products.
>>
>> Now that is just pure unadulterated bullsh*t!
>>
>> Some are XP,
>>> ubuntu
>>> and Mac OS.
>>>
>>> If they want us to not compare what they are asking is only for us to
>>> praise
>>> vista as a perfect godlike OS that is above any criticism and
>>> comparison,
>>> and that aint gonna happen.
>>
>> You need to get some real help with your psychosis.
>>>
>>> Even Microsoft has taken a very good look at ubuntu, and they have
>>> copied
>>> some elements from GNOME almost exactly ... lol I was just on ubuntu
>>> 8.04
>>> and noticed that when you click on the date (on the panel (like
>>> taskbar of
>>> windows) its extremely similar behavior to vista when you do that...
>>> even
>>> the graphic when this area is pressed seems similar.
>>>
>> Well cc, the above is nothing more than a totally worthless
>> meaningless diatribe.
>>
>> You need to do three things:
>> 1) stop posting your Vista hated filled rants. Once was enough.
>> 2) stop posting bullsh*t URL links that have nothing to do with Vista.
>> 3) give us your phone number at the help desk where you work so we can
>> all call you up and pretend we have problems so you can try and
>> bullsh*t us into believing that you know what you're talking about ok?
>> The number please...?
>> Frank
>>
 
Clear Windows wrote:
> MUST I EXPLAIN EVERYTHING? ...This is very fundamental stuff... you guys
> should try reading a few books.
>
> the fanboys (like you) forget (or are unaware) that to define anything,
> even an OS, you
> must contrast it with surrounding elements or in this case other OS.
>
> THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL "LAW OF COMPARISON" THE PERMEATES THE UNIVERSE~!
>
> It exist both in art and in science and applies to everything.
>
> You cannot measure if something is cold or hot for example if you do not
> have a frame of reference,
> since the temperature is calculated as a difference. This is basic
> thermodynamics.
>
> In art there cannot exist form color or lightiing without contrast.
>
> You cannot define if vista is good or bad, its nice features and its dumb
> problems, unless you can compare it with other products. Some are XP,
> ubuntu
> and Mac OS.
>
> If they want us to not compare what they are asking is only for us to
> praise
> vista as a perfect godlike OS that is above any criticism and comparison,
> and that aint gonna happen.
>
> Even Microsoft has taken a very good look at ubuntu, and they have copied
> some elements from GNOME almost exactly ... lol I was just on ubuntu 8.04
> and noticed that when you click on the date (on the panel (like taskbar of
> windows) its extremely similar behavior to vista when you do that... even
> the graphic when this area is pressed seems similar.
>
>
> "Lang Murphy" <langmurf@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:S_xRj.58134$rC6.5762@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>> Clear Windows wrote:
>>> I really do not think that comparisons between Vista and Ubuntu or
>>> other OS are off topic.
>>>
>>
>> So... you post about Ubuntu in OS X NG's or on the Apple discussion
>> forums?
>>
>>
>>> Its important for people to be informed of choices, and that will
>>> keep Microsoft on guard to improve their products because of
>>> competition.
>>
>> What? Your posts are educating folks? Puh-lease.
>>
>>>
>>> Alias mostly compares vista with ubuntu... Since vista is on one side
>>> of the comparison, it is on-topic.
>>
>> That guy -only- compares Vista with Ubuntu. So I guess it would be OK
>> to compare Vista with anything then... Vista vs. Solaris. Vista vs.
>> Red Hat. Oops, they threw in the towel on the desktop.
>>
>>>
>>> Failed again MVP, huh?.... being a stubborn net cop is not looked
>>> upon positively in newsgroups.
>>
>> And being a stubborn net jihadist is not appreciated either. Ubuntu in
>> Ubuntu NG's. Seems pretty straightforward...
>>
>> Lang
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ur$BZWWqIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Alias and I have only one thing in common with regard
>>>> to operating systems. He claims he has no issues whatsoever running
>>>> Ubuntu and I have no issues whatsoever running Windows Vista.
>>>>
>>>> However, Alias cannot seem to understand that this is
>>>> a Windows Vista newsgroup and he really needs to take
>>>> his "business" (sic) to the Ubuntu forums.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Carey Frisch
>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>> Windows Desktop Experience -
>>>> Windows Vista Enthusiast
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> "Bill Yanaire" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I tried Ubuntu for a few days and that was enough. Off it went into
>>>> the bit bucket. Ubuntu may be good for some, but if you need
>>>> to rely on MS products, Ubuntu isn't the way to go.
>>>>
>>>> Now let's wait for Alias to chime in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

You didn't answer my first question. You blathered on for a good bit,
but avoided answering the question.

And... the claims that because this is Vista.General means one can
compare OS's is totally off track... the whole point of question one.

I'm so sure that posts in the Ubuntu NG that Vista and OS X are
superior, or in the Mac Discussion forums that Vista and Ubuntu are
superior, and folks should move to one or the other alternatives, would
be met with flames aplenty.

I've tried almost every release of Ubuntu, hoping that it would approach
the functionality and ease of use provided by Windows or OS X... but
haven't experienced that yet. But I don't throw up posts here saying
Ubuntu sucks... because... this is Vista.General, not OS.general.

Lang
 
ok so vista sucks.. do you agree with that? because that’s all that matters
here.. lol

"Lang Murphy" <langmurf@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:efzSj.26312$DY1.521@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> Clear Windows wrote:
>> MUST I EXPLAIN EVERYTHING? ...This is very fundamental stuff... you guys
>> should try reading a few books.
>>
>> the fanboys (like you) forget (or are unaware) that to define anything,
>> even an OS, you
>> must contrast it with surrounding elements or in this case other OS.
>>
>> THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL "LAW OF COMPARISON" THE PERMEATES THE UNIVERSE~!
>>
>> It exist both in art and in science and applies to everything.
>>
>> You cannot measure if something is cold or hot for example if you do not
>> have a frame of reference,
>> since the temperature is calculated as a difference. This is basic
>> thermodynamics.
>>
>> In art there cannot exist form color or lightiing without contrast.
>>
>> You cannot define if vista is good or bad, its nice features and its dumb
>> problems, unless you can compare it with other products. Some are XP,
>> ubuntu
>> and Mac OS.
>>
>> If they want us to not compare what they are asking is only for us to
>> praise
>> vista as a perfect godlike OS that is above any criticism and comparison,
>> and that aint gonna happen.
>>
>> Even Microsoft has taken a very good look at ubuntu, and they have copied
>> some elements from GNOME almost exactly ... lol I was just on ubuntu
>> 8.04
>> and noticed that when you click on the date (on the panel (like taskbar
>> of
>> windows) its extremely similar behavior to vista when you do that... even
>> the graphic when this area is pressed seems similar.
>>
>>
>> "Lang Murphy" <langmurf@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:S_xRj.58134$rC6.5762@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>> Clear Windows wrote:
>>>> I really do not think that comparisons between Vista and Ubuntu or
>>>> other OS are off topic.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So... you post about Ubuntu in OS X NG's or on the Apple discussion
>>> forums?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Its important for people to be informed of choices, and that will keep
>>>> Microsoft on guard to improve their products because of competition.
>>>
>>> What? Your posts are educating folks? Puh-lease.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alias mostly compares vista with ubuntu... Since vista is on one side
>>>> of the comparison, it is on-topic.
>>>
>>> That guy -only- compares Vista with Ubuntu. So I guess it would be OK to
>>> compare Vista with anything then... Vista vs. Solaris. Vista vs. Red
>>> Hat. Oops, they threw in the towel on the desktop.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Failed again MVP, huh?.... being a stubborn net cop is not looked upon
>>>> positively in newsgroups.
>>>
>>> And being a stubborn net jihadist is not appreciated either. Ubuntu in
>>> Ubuntu NG's. Seems pretty straightforward...
>>>
>>> Lang
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ur$BZWWqIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Alias and I have only one thing in common with regard
>>>>> to operating systems. He claims he has no issues whatsoever running
>>>>> Ubuntu and I have no issues whatsoever running Windows Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, Alias cannot seem to understand that this is
>>>>> a Windows Vista newsgroup and he really needs to take
>>>>> his "business" (sic) to the Ubuntu forums.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Carey Frisch
>>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience -
>>>>> Windows Vista Enthusiast
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill Yanaire" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried Ubuntu for a few days and that was enough. Off it went into
>>>>> the bit bucket. Ubuntu may be good for some, but if you need
>>>>> to rely on MS products, Ubuntu isn't the way to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now let's wait for Alias to chime in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
> You didn't answer my first question. You blathered on for a good bit, but
> avoided answering the question.
>
> And... the claims that because this is Vista.General means one can compare
> OS's is totally off track... the whole point of question one.
>
> I'm so sure that posts in the Ubuntu NG that Vista and OS X are superior,
> or in the Mac Discussion forums that Vista and Ubuntu are superior, and
> folks should move to one or the other alternatives, would be met with
> flames aplenty.
>
> I've tried almost every release of Ubuntu, hoping that it would approach
> the functionality and ease of use provided by Windows or OS X... but
> haven't experienced that yet. But I don't throw up posts here saying
> Ubuntu sucks... because... this is Vista.General, not OS.general.
>
> Lang
 
Lang Murphy wrote:
> Clear Windows wrote:
>> MUST I EXPLAIN EVERYTHING? ...This is very fundamental stuff... you
>> guys should try reading a few books.
>>
>> the fanboys (like you) forget (or are unaware) that to define
>> anything, even an OS, you
>> must contrast it with surrounding elements or in this case other OS.
>>
>> THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL "LAW OF COMPARISON" THE PERMEATES THE UNIVERSE~!
>>
>> It exist both in art and in science and applies to everything.
>>
>> You cannot measure if something is cold or hot for example if you do
>> not have a frame of reference,
>> since the temperature is calculated as a difference. This is basic
>> thermodynamics.
>>
>> In art there cannot exist form color or lightiing without contrast.
>>
>> You cannot define if vista is good or bad, its nice features and its dumb
>> problems, unless you can compare it with other products. Some are XP,
>> ubuntu
>> and Mac OS.
>>
>> If they want us to not compare what they are asking is only for us to
>> praise
>> vista as a perfect godlike OS that is above any criticism and comparison,
>> and that aint gonna happen.
>>
>> Even Microsoft has taken a very good look at ubuntu, and they have copied
>> some elements from GNOME almost exactly ... lol I was just on ubuntu
>> 8.04
>> and noticed that when you click on the date (on the panel (like
>> taskbar of
>> windows) its extremely similar behavior to vista when you do that... even
>> the graphic when this area is pressed seems similar.
>>
>>
>> "Lang Murphy" <langmurf@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:S_xRj.58134$rC6.5762@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>> Clear Windows wrote:
>>>> I really do not think that comparisons between Vista and Ubuntu or
>>>> other OS are off topic.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So... you post about Ubuntu in OS X NG's or on the Apple discussion
>>> forums?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Its important for people to be informed of choices, and that will
>>>> keep Microsoft on guard to improve their products because of
>>>> competition.
>>>
>>> What? Your posts are educating folks? Puh-lease.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alias mostly compares vista with ubuntu... Since vista is on one
>>>> side of the comparison, it is on-topic.
>>>
>>> That guy -only- compares Vista with Ubuntu. So I guess it would be OK
>>> to compare Vista with anything then... Vista vs. Solaris. Vista vs.
>>> Red Hat. Oops, they threw in the towel on the desktop.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Failed again MVP, huh?.... being a stubborn net cop is not looked
>>>> upon positively in newsgroups.
>>>
>>> And being a stubborn net jihadist is not appreciated either. Ubuntu
>>> in Ubuntu NG's. Seems pretty straightforward...
>>>
>>> Lang
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ur$BZWWqIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Alias and I have only one thing in common with regard
>>>>> to operating systems. He claims he has no issues whatsoever running
>>>>> Ubuntu and I have no issues whatsoever running Windows Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, Alias cannot seem to understand that this is
>>>>> a Windows Vista newsgroup and he really needs to take
>>>>> his "business" (sic) to the Ubuntu forums.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Carey Frisch
>>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience -
>>>>> Windows Vista Enthusiast
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill Yanaire" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried Ubuntu for a few days and that was enough. Off it went
>>>>> into the bit bucket. Ubuntu may be good for some, but if you need
>>>>> to rely on MS products, Ubuntu isn't the way to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now let's wait for Alias to chime in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
> You didn't answer my first question. You blathered on for a good bit,
> but avoided answering the question.
>
> And... the claims that because this is Vista.General means one can
> compare OS's is totally off track... the whole point of question one.
>
> I'm so sure that posts in the Ubuntu NG that Vista and OS X are
> superior, or in the Mac Discussion forums that Vista and Ubuntu are
> superior, and folks should move to one or the other alternatives, would
> be met with flames aplenty.
>
> I've tried almost every release of Ubuntu, hoping that it would approach
> the functionality and ease of use provided by Windows or OS X... but
> haven't experienced that yet. But I don't throw up posts here saying
> Ubuntu sucks... because... this is Vista.General, not OS.general.
>
> Lang

New to Usenet?

Alias
 
Alias wrote:
> Lang Murphy wrote:
>> Clear Windows wrote:
>>> MUST I EXPLAIN EVERYTHING? ...This is very fundamental stuff... you
>>> guys should try reading a few books.
>>>
>>> the fanboys (like you) forget (or are unaware) that to define
>>> anything, even an OS, you
>>> must contrast it with surrounding elements or in this case other OS.
>>>
>>> THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL "LAW OF COMPARISON" THE PERMEATES THE UNIVERSE~!
>>>
>>> It exist both in art and in science and applies to everything.
>>>
>>> You cannot measure if something is cold or hot for example if you do
>>> not have a frame of reference,
>>> since the temperature is calculated as a difference. This is basic
>>> thermodynamics.
>>>
>>> In art there cannot exist form color or lightiing without contrast.
>>>
>>> You cannot define if vista is good or bad, its nice features and its
>>> dumb
>>> problems, unless you can compare it with other products. Some are XP,
>>> ubuntu
>>> and Mac OS.
>>>
>>> If they want us to not compare what they are asking is only for us to
>>> praise
>>> vista as a perfect godlike OS that is above any criticism and
>>> comparison,
>>> and that aint gonna happen.
>>>
>>> Even Microsoft has taken a very good look at ubuntu, and they have
>>> copied
>>> some elements from GNOME almost exactly ... lol I was just on ubuntu
>>> 8.04
>>> and noticed that when you click on the date (on the panel (like
>>> taskbar of
>>> windows) its extremely similar behavior to vista when you do that...
>>> even
>>> the graphic when this area is pressed seems similar.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lang Murphy" <langmurf@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:S_xRj.58134$rC6.5762@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>>> Clear Windows wrote:
>>>>> I really do not think that comparisons between Vista and Ubuntu or
>>>>> other OS are off topic.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So... you post about Ubuntu in OS X NG's or on the Apple discussion
>>>> forums?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Its important for people to be informed of choices, and that will
>>>>> keep Microsoft on guard to improve their products because of
>>>>> competition.
>>>>
>>>> What? Your posts are educating folks? Puh-lease.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias mostly compares vista with ubuntu... Since vista is on one
>>>>> side of the comparison, it is on-topic.
>>>>
>>>> That guy -only- compares Vista with Ubuntu. So I guess it would be
>>>> OK to compare Vista with anything then... Vista vs. Solaris. Vista
>>>> vs. Red Hat. Oops, they threw in the towel on the desktop.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Failed again MVP, huh?.... being a stubborn net cop is not looked
>>>>> upon positively in newsgroups.
>>>>
>>>> And being a stubborn net jihadist is not appreciated either. Ubuntu
>>>> in Ubuntu NG's. Seems pretty straightforward...
>>>>
>>>> Lang
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ur$BZWWqIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Alias and I have only one thing in common with regard
>>>>>> to operating systems. He claims he has no issues whatsoever running
>>>>>> Ubuntu and I have no issues whatsoever running Windows Vista.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, Alias cannot seem to understand that this is
>>>>>> a Windows Vista newsgroup and he really needs to take
>>>>>> his "business" (sic) to the Ubuntu forums.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Carey Frisch
>>>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience -
>>>>>> Windows Vista Enthusiast
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bill Yanaire" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried Ubuntu for a few days and that was enough. Off it went
>>>>>> into the bit bucket. Ubuntu may be good for some, but if you need
>>>>>> to rely on MS products, Ubuntu isn't the way to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now let's wait for Alias to chime in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>> You didn't answer my first question. You blathered on for a good bit,
>> but avoided answering the question.
>>
>> And... the claims that because this is Vista.General means one can
>> compare OS's is totally off track... the whole point of question one.
>>
>> I'm so sure that posts in the Ubuntu NG that Vista and OS X are
>> superior, or in the Mac Discussion forums that Vista and Ubuntu are
>> superior, and folks should move to one or the other alternatives,
>> would be met with flames aplenty.
>>
>> I've tried almost every release of Ubuntu, hoping that it would
>> approach the functionality and ease of use provided by Windows or OS
>> X... but haven't experienced that yet. But I don't throw up posts here
>> saying Ubuntu sucks... because... this is Vista.General, not OS.general.
>>
>> Lang
>
> New to Usenet?
>
> Alias
Ubuntu doesn't suck. I've been using it for years, and in some ways prefer it over XP
and Vista--I use Home Premium.
 
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