Damn you, Microsoft - CAN'T INSTALL SP1

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Frank, I never thought I'd have to agree with you!

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"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:e37PTtKoIHA.5836@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> John Barnett MVP wrote:
>> Adam you won't see the type of post you refer to from an MVP in these
>> newsgroups (although you may find the odd one or two) Why? you ask.
>> Simple they would never get read by Microsoft. These newsgroups are not
>> monitored by Microsoft (they may occasionally take a peek) because they
>> don't need to monitor them. To post such 'critical' information would
>> never get to the right source. MVP's have ample opportunity to bring up
>> problems both in webcasts, podcasts, private newsgroups etc with
>> Microsoft developers and this I where the main critical posts are served.
>>
>> It is a bit like working for a company and having a complaint. Okay you
>> may voice your annoyance with some of your colleagues, but to get
>> anything done you usually approach management via a structured line of
>> command.
>>
>> That is why MVPs contribute to these newsgroups. In Microsoft's eyes the
>> MVP are their 'eyes and ears'. By contributing to the newsgroups we can
>> usually get a feel for the most common problems and then, during webcasts
>> and private newsgroups we can pass on the problems that are occurring the
>> most.
>>
>> Considering we offer support free of charge the MVPs get some stick which
>> isn't really warranted. We are not super human and like us or hate us we
>> try our best to solve as many problems as possible. We (that is MVPs)
>> sometimes get it wrong and I am usually the first to admit if I have got
>> something wrong. We may not be perfect but I've been doing this for the
>> last 7 years so I've obviously got some things rights. Is it too much for
>> us to ask people like yourself to give us a break? Or maybe you'd like
>> the job yourself?
>>
>>
> You're trying to talk on an intellectual, human level with a mentally ill,
> drunken pig...LOL!
> It'll never work. Just ignore the stupid, idiot drunken loser...he's not
> worth the time or effort.
> Anyway, the stupid sod always ends up shooting himself in the foot...LOL!
> Frank
 
Yep, good decision. I 'delete on server' all the trolls and the fools who
constantly reply to them. There are also a few key words they can't resist
using.
Where the message is on microsoft.public.windows.vista.general newsgroup
and Where the Subject line contains 'Linux' or 'Ubuntu' or 'Red Hat' or
'indows suck' or 'ista Suck' or 'FYI' or 'save Windows XP' or '[News]'
Delete it
and Stop processing more rules

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"John Barnett MVP" <freelance@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Well I'll give you one thing, you damn well like the sound of your own
> voice. Keep swimming around that goldfish bowl of yours. And keep
> repeating that mantra that's stuck in your head. Microsoft is bad!
> Microsoft is Bad! You are so opinionated you are beyond belief. At least I
> have to option of kill file, I'd rather not bother with the load of
> rubbish you spout. Go get a life!!!
>
> --
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
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> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
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> for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
> the
> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> mail/post..
>
> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
> news:t1ue04dfhgd2r9q3shd9d3g0klr7cbfk6c@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:49:52 +0100, "John Barnett MVP"
>> <freelance@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>Adam you won't see the type of post you refer to from an MVP in these
>>>newsgroups (although you may find the odd one or two) Why? you ask.
>>>Simple
>>>they would never get read by Microsoft. These newsgroups are not
>>>monitored
>>>by Microsoft (they may occasionally take a peek) because they don't need
>>>to
>>>monitor them. To post such 'critical' information would never get to the
>>>right source. MVP's have ample opportunity to bring up problems both in
>>>webcasts, podcasts, private newsgroups etc with Microsoft developers and
>>>this I where the main critical posts are served.
>>>
>>>It is a bit like working for a company and having a complaint. Okay you
>>>may
>>>voice your annoyance with some of your colleagues, but to get anything
>>>done
>>>you usually approach management via a structured line of command.
>>>
>>>That is why MVPs contribute to these newsgroups. In Microsoft's eyes the
>>>MVP
>>>are their 'eyes and ears'.
>>
>> You mean the deaf and dumb squad? The function of MVPs in the
>> newsgroup can best be summed up as see no evil, hear no evil, speak no
>> evil. If the "problems" are never even acknowledged how to you ever
>> expect to have any creditability?
>>
>> http://granitegrok.com/pix/see no evil.jpg
>>
>>>By contributing to the newsgroups we can usually
>>>get a feel for the most common problems and then, during webcasts and
>>>private newsgroups we can pass on the problems that are occurring the
>>>most.
>>
>> I bet you actually believe that works. Well it doesn't. Microsoft
>> isn't listening or worse doesn't know how to fix long standing issues.
>> Take one for example. Windows Explorer. It's been a bow wow for years.
>> Why hasn't it ever truly been fixed?
>>
>>>Considering we offer support free of charge the MVPs get some stick which
>>>isn't really warranted. We are not super human and like us or hate us we
>>>try
>>>our best to solve as many problems as possible. We (that is MVPs)
>>>sometimes
>>>get it wrong and I am usually the first to admit if I have got something
>>>wrong. We may not be perfect but I've been doing this for the last 7
>>>years
>>>so I've obviously got some things rights. Is it too much for us to ask
>>>people like yourself to give us a break? Or maybe you'd like the job
>>>yourself?
>>
>> Being a MVP is like being a member of a street gang. You stick up for
>> each other. NO MATTER WHAT. While you may know another MVP is a jerk
>> and often mouths off here or is giving lame advice the "good" MVPs
>> ALWAYS remain silent. My guess out of fear they will be gang raped by
>> other MVPs if they speak up. The same us verses them mentality often
>> suffered by cops... who may know who the bad apples are but say
>> nothing.
>>
>> MVPs collectively will continue to be seen as Microsoft butt kissers
>> as long as they NEVER openly or frankly discuss what is wrong with
>> Windows. They never do (not in public) and according most more
>> experienced users simply snicker at the typical MVP boiler plate
>> answer. The problem? A major creditability issue. MVPs especially in
>> this newsgroup have none because of a surplus of bad apple MVP's that
>> constantly mouth off here, the same small but hard core bunch of
>> losers talking down to those having real issues or just mouthing off.
>>
>> I'll give MVPs a break once they actually do something beyond kissing
>> up to Microsoft and feeling sorry for themselves. Nobody forced you to
>> become a MVP, my guess you do it for the perks. Why don't you tell
>> people all the goodies MVP's get directly and indirectly.
>>
>> At least when you see talking heads on tv networks like CNBC
>> recommending or knocking a stock they make a discloser if or not they
>> benefit from the opinions they're giving.
>>
>
 
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:57:13 +0100, "John Barnett MVP"
<freelance@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Well I'll give you one thing, you damn well like the sound of your own
>voice. Keep swimming around that goldfish bowl of yours. And keep repeating
>that mantra that's stuck in your head. Microsoft is bad! Microsoft is Bad!
>You are so opinionated you are beyond belief. At least I have to option of
>kill file, I'd rather not bother with the load of rubbish you spout. Go get
>a life!!!
>

Ain't that precious. Damn, I sure nailed your sorry ass didn't I.

Typical MVP blowhard can't handle the truth about how he's perceived
here.
 
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:08:38 +0100, "John Barnett MVP"
<freelance@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Frank, I never thought I'd have to agree with you!

That speaks volumes. Some MVP agreeing with the resident troll Frank.
 
Sorry, but you failed miserably to "nail" anyone.
What you have accomplished is to foolishly
portray yourself as a pseudo-intellectual (sic) newsgroup
harasser with no appreciation whatsoever.

Best if you moved on to a different newsgroup
as no one enjoys reading your ilk here.

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Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows System & Performance

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"Adam Albright" wrote:

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:57:13 +0100, "John Barnett MVP"
<freelance@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Well I'll give you one thing, you damn well like the sound of your own
>voice. Keep swimming around that goldfish bowl of yours. And keep repeating
>that mantra that's stuck in your head. Microsoft is bad! Microsoft is Bad!
>You are so opinionated you are beyond belief. At least I have to option of
>kill file, I'd rather not bother with the load of rubbish you spout. Go get
>a life!!!
>

Ain't that precious. Damn, I sure nailed your sorry ass didn't I.

Typical MVP blowhard can't handle the truth about how he's perceived
here.
 
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:17:56 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
<cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote:

>Sorry, but you failed miserably to "nail" anyone.
>What you have accomplished is to foolishly
>portray yourself as a pseudo-intellectual (sic) newsgroup
>harasser with no appreciation whatsoever.
>
>Best if you moved on to a different newsgroup
>as no one enjoys reading your ilk here.

Even without a cue the MVP gang confirms they are the pompous clueless
Microsoft butt kissing no nothing jerks I said. Too funny.
 
startup probloms

i have vista home premium and for the last few weeks when i turn it on it
goes to configuring updates then shuts down and starts up again ocasonaly ill
get an error and cant log onto windows can enayone help
 
Wow, I guess that my case drowned here beneath the juicy side-track-debate
in this thread -)

Here's an update... Svchost.exe is another process that takes alot of
resources (I noticed after showing processes from all users).

Also, the Application log error disappears after rebooting the system. The
cpu actually settles down a little by that, but after a few hours the log
starts to gets filled again and the cpu is back at 100% once more.

What's happening here? I don't want these errors and I don't want my cpu to
be 100% busy with Windows processes...





"lensv" wrote:

>
>
> There are several processes competing for their share her, but mostly it
> seems to be explorer.exe and iexplore.exe that takes the majority of the
> resources.
>
> Now I have also found a couple of errors in the Event Viewer which weren't
> there before.
>
> In the System log there are two entries that are coming back repeatedly at
> least every minute...
>
> Event ID 7001: The Remote Access Connection Manager service depends on the
> Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service service which failed to start
> because of the following error:
> The system cannot find the file specified.
>
> Event ID 7023: The Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service service
> terminated with the following error:
> The system cannot find the file specified.
>
> In the Application log the following entry appears every 2-3 minutes...
>
> Event ID 3084: Failed to load protocol handler Search.CscHandler.1. Error
> description: No more threads can be created in the system. .
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
>
>
> "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
>
> > Have you checked the processes tab in task manager to see what is using all
> > of the CPU?
> >
> > --
> > --
> > John Barnett MVP
> > Associate Expert
> > Windows Desktop Experience
> >
> > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> > Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
> >
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> > use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
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> >
> > "lensv" <lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:64DDA4CC-AB98-4F4F-AAD6-FC7A26FBB059@microsoft.com...
> > > Alright, uninstalling VMware did it. Now, finally SP1 is in place... With
> > > a
> > > CPU constantly running at 100% :-(
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Well I'm also running VMware Workstation (VM Version 6.0.3: Build 8004)
> > >> and
> > >> SP1 installed without any problem on my machine (this machine was tested
> > >> with both the the windows update version and the standalone version and
> > >> both
> > >> installed without issue.)
> > >>
> > >> Of course it could be the 'unknown device' that is causing the problem. I
> > >> don't have any unknown devices in my device manager list so it is
> > >> difficult
> > >> to pinpoint what the unknown device actually is. Even though it is, as
> > >> you
> > >> say, disabled, the driver is still installed.
> > >>
> > >> Have you tried uninstalling VMware completely, seeing as it has been
> > >> troublesome before?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> --
> > >> John Barnett MVP
> > >> Associate Expert
> > >> Windows Desktop Experience
> > >>
> > >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> > >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
> > >>
> > >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> > >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> > >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
> > >> for
> > >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
> > >> the
> > >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> > >> mail/post..
> > >>
> > >> "lensv" <lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:B937F340-1AC3-480C-8E32-0F96EA22D6BB@microsoft.com...
> > >> >
> > >> > Ok, there actually are a couple of drivers that might be the cause of
> > >> > the
> > >> > problem here. I do have the RealTek AC´97 audio driver installed, but
> > >> > it
> > >> > shouldn't be this one that is the source of the problem since I have a
> > >> > newer
> > >> > version installed than the one that MS warns about (on your first
> > >> > link).
> > >> >
> > >> > There is also an unknown device and two Virtual Ethernet Adapters from
> > >> > VMware in this system that have been troublesome before, but they are
> > >> > disabled. Can they still be stopping the installation of SP1?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> If SP1 is not available through Windows Update it may be because there
> > >> >> is
> > >> >> a
> > >> >> problem with one or more of your drivers. Check out both these
> > >> >> knowledgebase
> > >> >> articles to see if they help.
> > >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343
> > >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> John Barnett MVP
> > >> >> Associate Expert
> > >> >> Windows Desktop Experience
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> > >> >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
> > >> >> any
> > >> >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
> > >> >> accuracy,
> > >> >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
> > >> >> liable
> > >> >> for
> > >> >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
> > >> >> of
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> > >> >> mail/post..
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "lensv" <lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:2F4D36CB-0DDD-4574-B9EC-B9BDDA4FAD73@microsoft.com...
> > >> >> > I'm having this problem as well. I downloaded the +400 MB from
> > >> >> > Microsofts
> > >> >> > web
> > >> >> > site and tried to install it (for some reason SP1 is not available
> > >> >> > at
> > >> >> > Windows
> > >> >> > Update), but it fails and reverts the changes.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate and I have not tried any
> > >> >> > earlier/beta
> > >> >> > versions of this service pack before...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > What can be wrong?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "dso371@gmail.com" wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> Sure enough, after waiting impatiently for months, I tried to
> > >> >> >> install
> > >> >> >> SP1 today and it was a disaster.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> 1) It gets to 'configuring updates stage 3 of 3' and FREEZES at 0%.
> > >> >> >> 2)This forces reboot, same freeze.
> > >> >> >> 3) So I reboot in safe mode, and it resumes installation of stage 3
> > >> >> >> and gets to 98% - whoo - hoo!
> > >> >> >> 4) And then, after two hours of this, it says 'Service Pack could
> > >> >> >> not
> > >> >> >> install reverting changes'
> > >> >> >> 5) Back to square 1, an entire evening wasted.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Damn you, Microsoft. I'm running a simple laptop, nothing special.
> > >> >> >> I
> > >> >> >> disabled the firewall, the antivirus, antispyware, and network
> > >> >> >> before
> > >> >> >> trying to install SP1. Nothing. NADA.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> How long do you idiots have to work on this thing to get it to
> > >> >> >> succeed
> > >> >> >> on any simple laptop? Years? Decades? Other people are reporting
> > >> >> >> similar problems. Are you gonna respond?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Or are you gonna just *&%$ up my machine permanently when you FORCE
> > >> >> >> this stinking, bug-ridden service pack onto it in a few weeks time?
> > >> >> >> And then who do I sue?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Thanks for nothing, Microsoft. I hope you go bankrupt one day.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
 
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:40:00 -0700, lensv
<lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>
>Wow, I guess that my case drowned here beneath the juicy side-track-debate
>in this thread -)
>
>Here's an update... Svchost.exe is another process that takes alot of
>resources (I noticed after showing processes from all users).
>
>Also, the Application log error disappears after rebooting the system. The
>cpu actually settles down a little by that, but after a few hours the log
>starts to gets filled again and the cpu is back at 100% once more.
>
>What's happening here? I don't want these errors and I don't want my cpu to
>be 100% busy with Windows processes...

What's happening is something is hogging your resources. If your
system is in good working order rarely should CPU usage stay about 30%
except for some random spikes. I have 84 processes running right now
and my CPU usage is hovering around 18%. If you're doing something
that puts an extreme load on your CPU like video editing, then CPU
usage will run much higher. For doing just normal stuff like web
surfing, word processing most graphic applications and the like you
should be able to maintain around 2/3 rds of your CPU in reserve...if
not, something is probably wrong and time to start hunting for what's
causing it.

Use Task Manager to help pin down what's going on. Go to the processes
tab, then click on the CPU column which will sort the processes in
order by what is using the most. If it comes up sorted least first,
just click again on the column header. Now you have an idea WHAT is
causing it.

Now that you have an idea WHAT is doing it, watch it by switching to
the performance tab. Click on Resource Monitor, then click on the
little arrow next to CPU usage and just watch for a few minutes.
Once here click on the threads column so whatever is using the most is
at the top, then alternate between the CPU usage columns. One or more
items will probably jump out from the rest. These are probably what
you want to focus on.

It's just common sense trying to guess what's happening. Just because
something is running a lot of threads doesn't mean something is wrong.
As an example right now on my system javaw.exe is using a lot of
threads. I'm not alarmed because I know why. I have my E-Trade account
open and using Market Trader which runs under Java that takes up some
resources to keep showing the ever changing stock prices, market
tickers, news wire, etc.. The other big hog is system, the NT kernel.
Again, expected. What you want to look for is something hogging
resources BIG time you don't expect to be hogging CPU cycles. That
likely is the problem application or service.
 
Thanks Adam. Like I said before the processes that are stealing most of the
resources are svchost.exe, explorer.exe and iexplore.exe, but probably the
errors in the Event Viewer are behind this behaviour...

/Ps. The "System" is owner of the most threads here (141, followed by
iexpore 54, exporer 43 and svchost, 40)






"Adam Albright" wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:40:00 -0700, lensv
> <lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Wow, I guess that my case drowned here beneath the juicy side-track-debate
> >in this thread -)
> >
> >Here's an update... Svchost.exe is another process that takes alot of
> >resources (I noticed after showing processes from all users).
> >
> >Also, the Application log error disappears after rebooting the system. The
> >cpu actually settles down a little by that, but after a few hours the log
> >starts to gets filled again and the cpu is back at 100% once more.
> >
> >What's happening here? I don't want these errors and I don't want my cpu to
> >be 100% busy with Windows processes...
>
> What's happening is something is hogging your resources. If your
> system is in good working order rarely should CPU usage stay about 30%
> except for some random spikes. I have 84 processes running right now
> and my CPU usage is hovering around 18%. If you're doing something
> that puts an extreme load on your CPU like video editing, then CPU
> usage will run much higher. For doing just normal stuff like web
> surfing, word processing most graphic applications and the like you
> should be able to maintain around 2/3 rds of your CPU in reserve...if
> not, something is probably wrong and time to start hunting for what's
> causing it.
>
> Use Task Manager to help pin down what's going on. Go to the processes
> tab, then click on the CPU column which will sort the processes in
> order by what is using the most. If it comes up sorted least first,
> just click again on the column header. Now you have an idea WHAT is
> causing it.
>
> Now that you have an idea WHAT is doing it, watch it by switching to
> the performance tab. Click on Resource Monitor, then click on the
> little arrow next to CPU usage and just watch for a few minutes.
> Once here click on the threads column so whatever is using the most is
> at the top, then alternate between the CPU usage columns. One or more
> items will probably jump out from the rest. These are probably what
> you want to focus on.
>
> It's just common sense trying to guess what's happening. Just because
> something is running a lot of threads doesn't mean something is wrong.
> As an example right now on my system javaw.exe is using a lot of
> threads. I'm not alarmed because I know why. I have my E-Trade account
> open and using Market Trader which runs under Java that takes up some
> resources to keep showing the ever changing stock prices, market
> tickers, news wire, etc.. The other big hog is system, the NT kernel.
> Again, expected. What you want to look for is something hogging
> resources BIG time you don't expect to be hogging CPU cycles. That
> likely is the problem application or service.
>
>
 
No lensv, your case hasn't drowned.

Have you virus scanned your system? The same applies to spyware/malware
scan. I'm not saying that this could be the problem, but it has been known
for a virus/spyware/malware infection to cause this type of problem. I would
also suggest using hijackthis (visit this site for more details:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/programs.php ) Obviously any hijackthis
file you create needs to be looked at by someone who can interpret the
results, so you may need to post the hijackthis file on the spywareinfo
forum (see the link above).

The excessive CPU usage appeared 'after' SP1 was installed? You haven't seen
this behaviour 'prior' to installing SP1? As a last resort you might try a
system restore prior to when you installed SP1 and then try installing SP1
again to see if this corrects the problem. (alternatively, you can simply
uninstall SP1 (see my website:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/uninstall_windows_sp1.htm )


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Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
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"lensv" <lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8CEC133B-16A0-4453-A338-D62788CB3E37@microsoft.com...
>
> Wow, I guess that my case drowned here beneath the juicy side-track-debate
> in this thread -)
>
> Here's an update... Svchost.exe is another process that takes alot of
> resources (I noticed after showing processes from all users).
>
> Also, the Application log error disappears after rebooting the system. The
> cpu actually settles down a little by that, but after a few hours the log
> starts to gets filled again and the cpu is back at 100% once more.
>
> What's happening here? I don't want these errors and I don't want my cpu
> to
> be 100% busy with Windows processes...
>
>
>
>
>
> "lensv" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> There are several processes competing for their share her, but mostly it
>> seems to be explorer.exe and iexplore.exe that takes the majority of the
>> resources.
>>
>> Now I have also found a couple of errors in the Event Viewer which
>> weren't
>> there before.
>>
>> In the System log there are two entries that are coming back repeatedly
>> at
>> least every minute...
>>
>> Event ID 7001: The Remote Access Connection Manager service depends on
>> the
>> Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service service which failed to start
>> because of the following error:
>> The system cannot find the file specified.
>>
>> Event ID 7023: The Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service service
>> terminated with the following error:
>> The system cannot find the file specified.
>>
>> In the Application log the following entry appears every 2-3 minutes...
>>
>> Event ID 3084: Failed to load protocol handler Search.CscHandler.1. Error
>> description: No more threads can be created in the system. .
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
>>
>> > Have you checked the processes tab in task manager to see what is using
>> > all
>> > of the CPU?
>> >
>> > --
>> > --
>> > John Barnett MVP
>> > Associate Expert
>> > Windows Desktop Experience
>> >
>> > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> > Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>> >
>> > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
>> > any
>> > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
>> > liable for
>> > any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
>> > of the
>> > use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
>> > mail/post..
>> >
>> > "lensv" <lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:64DDA4CC-AB98-4F4F-AAD6-FC7A26FBB059@microsoft.com...
>> > > Alright, uninstalling VMware did it. Now, finally SP1 is in place...
>> > > With
>> > > a
>> > > CPU constantly running at 100% :-(
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Well I'm also running VMware Workstation (VM Version 6.0.3: Build
>> > >> 8004)
>> > >> and
>> > >> SP1 installed without any problem on my machine (this machine was
>> > >> tested
>> > >> with both the the windows update version and the standalone version
>> > >> and
>> > >> both
>> > >> installed without issue.)
>> > >>
>> > >> Of course it could be the 'unknown device' that is causing the
>> > >> problem. I
>> > >> don't have any unknown devices in my device manager list so it is
>> > >> difficult
>> > >> to pinpoint what the unknown device actually is. Even though it is,
>> > >> as
>> > >> you
>> > >> say, disabled, the driver is still installed.
>> > >>
>> > >> Have you tried uninstalling VMware completely, seeing as it has been
>> > >> troublesome before?
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> --
>> > >> John Barnett MVP
>> > >> Associate Expert
>> > >> Windows Desktop Experience
>> > >>
>> > >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> > >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>> > >>
>> > >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty
>> > >> of any
>> > >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
>> > >> accuracy,
>> > >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
>> > >> liable
>> > >> for
>> > >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising
>> > >> out of
>> > >> the
>> > >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
>> > >> this
>> > >> mail/post..
>> > >>
>> > >> "lensv" <lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:B937F340-1AC3-480C-8E32-0F96EA22D6BB@microsoft.com...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Ok, there actually are a couple of drivers that might be the cause
>> > >> > of
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > problem here. I do have the RealTek AC´97 audio driver installed,
>> > >> > but
>> > >> > it
>> > >> > shouldn't be this one that is the source of the problem since I
>> > >> > have a
>> > >> > newer
>> > >> > version installed than the one that MS warns about (on your first
>> > >> > link).
>> > >> >
>> > >> > There is also an unknown device and two Virtual Ethernet Adapters
>> > >> > from
>> > >> > VMware in this system that have been troublesome before, but they
>> > >> > are
>> > >> > disabled. Can they still be stopping the installation of SP1?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> If SP1 is not available through Windows Update it may be because
>> > >> >> there
>> > >> >> is
>> > >> >> a
>> > >> >> problem with one or more of your drivers. Check out both these
>> > >> >> knowledgebase
>> > >> >> articles to see if they help.
>> > >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343
>> > >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> --
>> > >> >> --
>> > >> >> John Barnett MVP
>> > >> >> Associate Expert
>> > >> >> Windows Desktop Experience
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> > >> >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No
>> > >> >> warranty of
>> > >> >> any
>> > >> >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
>> > >> >> accuracy,
>> > >> >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
>> > >> >> liable
>> > >> >> for
>> > >> >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising
>> > >> >> out
>> > >> >> of
>> > >> >> the
>> > >> >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
>> > >> >> this
>> > >> >> mail/post..
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> "lensv" <lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > >> >> news:2F4D36CB-0DDD-4574-B9EC-B9BDDA4FAD73@microsoft.com...
>> > >> >> > I'm having this problem as well. I downloaded the +400 MB from
>> > >> >> > Microsofts
>> > >> >> > web
>> > >> >> > site and tried to install it (for some reason SP1 is not
>> > >> >> > available
>> > >> >> > at
>> > >> >> > Windows
>> > >> >> > Update), but it fails and reverts the changes.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate and I have not tried any
>> > >> >> > earlier/beta
>> > >> >> > versions of this service pack before...
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > What can be wrong?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > "dso371@gmail.com" wrote:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> Sure enough, after waiting impatiently for months, I tried to
>> > >> >> >> install
>> > >> >> >> SP1 today and it was a disaster.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> 1) It gets to 'configuring updates stage 3 of 3' and FREEZES
>> > >> >> >> at 0%.
>> > >> >> >> 2)This forces reboot, same freeze.
>> > >> >> >> 3) So I reboot in safe mode, and it resumes installation of
>> > >> >> >> stage 3
>> > >> >> >> and gets to 98% - whoo - hoo!
>> > >> >> >> 4) And then, after two hours of this, it says 'Service Pack
>> > >> >> >> could
>> > >> >> >> not
>> > >> >> >> install reverting changes'
>> > >> >> >> 5) Back to square 1, an entire evening wasted.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Damn you, Microsoft. I'm running a simple laptop, nothing
>> > >> >> >> special.
>> > >> >> >> I
>> > >> >> >> disabled the firewall, the antivirus, antispyware, and network
>> > >> >> >> before
>> > >> >> >> trying to install SP1. Nothing. NADA.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> How long do you idiots have to work on this thing to get it to
>> > >> >> >> succeed
>> > >> >> >> on any simple laptop? Years? Decades? Other people are
>> > >> >> >> reporting
>> > >> >> >> similar problems. Are you gonna respond?
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Or are you gonna just *&%$ up my machine permanently when you
>> > >> >> >> FORCE
>> > >> >> >> this stinking, bug-ridden service pack onto it in a few weeks
>> > >> >> >> time?
>> > >> >> >> And then who do I sue?
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Thanks for nothing, Microsoft. I hope you go bankrupt one day.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
 
I'm pretty sure there are no malwares in this system...

I've tried uninstalling this service pack, but the problem persists.
Installing it again doesn't make any difference. Since I didn't have this
problem before SP1 is obvioulsy messing up the system :(






"John Barnett MVP" wrote:

> No lensv, your case hasn't drowned.
>
> Have you virus scanned your system? The same applies to spyware/malware
> scan. I'm not saying that this could be the problem, but it has been known
> for a virus/spyware/malware infection to cause this type of problem. I would
> also suggest using hijackthis (visit this site for more details:
> http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/programs.php ) Obviously any hijackthis
> file you create needs to be looked at by someone who can interpret the
> results, so you may need to post the hijackthis file on the spywareinfo
> forum (see the link above).
>
> The excessive CPU usage appeared 'after' SP1 was installed? You haven't seen
> this behaviour 'prior' to installing SP1? As a last resort you might try a
> system restore prior to when you installed SP1 and then try installing SP1
> again to see if this corrects the problem. (alternatively, you can simply
> uninstall SP1 (see my website:
> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/uninstall_windows_sp1.htm )
>
>
> --
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> mail/post..
>
> "lensv" <lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8CEC133B-16A0-4453-A338-D62788CB3E37@microsoft.com...
> >
> > Wow, I guess that my case drowned here beneath the juicy side-track-debate
> > in this thread -)
> >
> > Here's an update... Svchost.exe is another process that takes alot of
> > resources (I noticed after showing processes from all users).
> >
> > Also, the Application log error disappears after rebooting the system. The
> > cpu actually settles down a little by that, but after a few hours the log
> > starts to gets filled again and the cpu is back at 100% once more.
> >
> > What's happening here? I don't want these errors and I don't want my cpu
> > to
> > be 100% busy with Windows processes...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "lensv" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> There are several processes competing for their share her, but mostly it
> >> seems to be explorer.exe and iexplore.exe that takes the majority of the
> >> resources.
> >>
> >> Now I have also found a couple of errors in the Event Viewer which
> >> weren't
> >> there before.
> >>
> >> In the System log there are two entries that are coming back repeatedly
> >> at
> >> least every minute...
> >>
> >> Event ID 7001: The Remote Access Connection Manager service depends on
> >> the
> >> Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service service which failed to start
> >> because of the following error:
> >> The system cannot find the file specified.
> >>
> >> Event ID 7023: The Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service service
> >> terminated with the following error:
> >> The system cannot find the file specified.
> >>
> >> In the Application log the following entry appears every 2-3 minutes...
> >>
> >> Event ID 3084: Failed to load protocol handler Search.CscHandler.1. Error
> >> description: No more threads can be created in the system. .
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Have you checked the processes tab in task manager to see what is using
> >> > all
> >> > of the CPU?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > --
> >> > John Barnett MVP
> >> > Associate Expert
> >> > Windows Desktop Experience
> >> >
> >> > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> >> > Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
> >> >
> >> > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
> >> > any
> >> > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> >> > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
> >> > liable for
> >> > any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
> >> > of the
> >> > use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> >> > mail/post..
> >> >
> >> > "lensv" <lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:64DDA4CC-AB98-4F4F-AAD6-FC7A26FBB059@microsoft.com...
> >> > > Alright, uninstalling VMware did it. Now, finally SP1 is in place...
> >> > > With
> >> > > a
> >> > > CPU constantly running at 100% :-(
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Well I'm also running VMware Workstation (VM Version 6.0.3: Build
> >> > >> 8004)
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> SP1 installed without any problem on my machine (this machine was
> >> > >> tested
> >> > >> with both the the windows update version and the standalone version
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> both
> >> > >> installed without issue.)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Of course it could be the 'unknown device' that is causing the
> >> > >> problem. I
> >> > >> don't have any unknown devices in my device manager list so it is
> >> > >> difficult
> >> > >> to pinpoint what the unknown device actually is. Even though it is,
> >> > >> as
> >> > >> you
> >> > >> say, disabled, the driver is still installed.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Have you tried uninstalling VMware completely, seeing as it has been
> >> > >> troublesome before?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> John Barnett MVP
> >> > >> Associate Expert
> >> > >> Windows Desktop Experience
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> >> > >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty
> >> > >> of any
> >> > >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
> >> > >> accuracy,
> >> > >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
> >> > >> liable
> >> > >> for
> >> > >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising
> >> > >> out of
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
> >> > >> this
> >> > >> mail/post..
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "lensv" <lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:B937F340-1AC3-480C-8E32-0F96EA22D6BB@microsoft.com...
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Ok, there actually are a couple of drivers that might be the cause
> >> > >> > of
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > problem here. I do have the RealTek AC´97 audio driver installed,
> >> > >> > but
> >> > >> > it
> >> > >> > shouldn't be this one that is the source of the problem since I
> >> > >> > have a
> >> > >> > newer
> >> > >> > version installed than the one that MS warns about (on your first
> >> > >> > link).
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > There is also an unknown device and two Virtual Ethernet Adapters
> >> > >> > from
> >> > >> > VMware in this system that have been troublesome before, but they
> >> > >> > are
> >> > >> > disabled. Can they still be stopping the installation of SP1?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> If SP1 is not available through Windows Update it may be because
> >> > >> >> there
> >> > >> >> is
> >> > >> >> a
> >> > >> >> problem with one or more of your drivers. Check out both these
> >> > >> >> knowledgebase
> >> > >> >> articles to see if they help.
> >> > >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343
> >> > >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> --
> >> > >> >> --
> >> > >> >> John Barnett MVP
> >> > >> >> Associate Expert
> >> > >> >> Windows Desktop Experience
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> >> > >> >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No
> >> > >> >> warranty of
> >> > >> >> any
> >> > >> >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
> >> > >> >> accuracy,
> >> > >> >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
> >> > >> >> liable
> >> > >> >> for
> >> > >> >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising
> >> > >> >> out
> >> > >> >> of
> >> > >> >> the
> >> > >> >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
> >> > >> >> this
> >> > >> >> mail/post..
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> "lensv" <lensv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> >> news:2F4D36CB-0DDD-4574-B9EC-B9BDDA4FAD73@microsoft.com...
> >> > >> >> > I'm having this problem as well. I downloaded the +400 MB from
> >> > >> >> > Microsofts
> >> > >> >> > web
> >> > >> >> > site and tried to install it (for some reason SP1 is not
> >> > >> >> > available
> >> > >> >> > at
> >> > >> >> > Windows
> >> > >> >> > Update), but it fails and reverts the changes.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate and I have not tried any
> >> > >> >> > earlier/beta
> >> > >> >> > versions of this service pack before...
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > What can be wrong?
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > "dso371@gmail.com" wrote:
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> Sure enough, after waiting impatiently for months, I tried to
> >> > >> >> >> install
> >> > >> >> >> SP1 today and it was a disaster.
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> 1) It gets to 'configuring updates stage 3 of 3' and FREEZES
> >> > >> >> >> at 0%.
> >> > >> >> >> 2)This forces reboot, same freeze.
> >> > >> >> >> 3) So I reboot in safe mode, and it resumes installation of
> >> > >> >> >> stage 3
> >> > >> >> >> and gets to 98% - whoo - hoo!
> >> > >> >> >> 4) And then, after two hours of this, it says 'Service Pack
> >> > >> >> >> could
> >> > >> >> >> not
> >> > >> >> >> install reverting changes'
> >> > >> >> >> 5) Back to square 1, an entire evening wasted.
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> Damn you, Microsoft. I'm running a simple laptop, nothing
> >> > >> >> >> special.
> >> > >> >> >> I
> >> > >> >> >> disabled the firewall, the antivirus, antispyware, and network
> >> > >> >> >> before
> >> > >> >> >> trying to install SP1. Nothing. NADA.
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> How long do you idiots have to work on this thing to get it to
> >> > >> >> >> succeed
> >> > >> >> >> on any simple laptop? Years? Decades? Other people are
> >> > >> >> >> reporting
> >> > >> >> >> similar problems. Are you gonna respond?
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> Or are you gonna just *&%$ up my machine permanently when you
> >> > >> >> >> FORCE
> >> > >> >> >> this stinking, bug-ridden service pack onto it in a few weeks
> >> > >> >> >> time?
> >> > >> >> >> And then who do I sue?
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> Thanks for nothing, Microsoft. I hope you go bankrupt one day.
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >>
 
I too installed service pack 1 as soon as it was available thru tech net.
Install went okay but suddenly every morning I had to repair my office suite
and my users/localsettings locked me out. I posted the problems, waited a
week and uninstalled. Just reinstalled it a few days ago. Having similar
problems with office suite and now see a remote access error
Now I am getting this error:
The Remote Access Connection Manager service depends on the Secure Socket
Tunneling Protocol Service service which failed to start because of the
following error:
The account specified for this service is different from the account
specified for other services running in the same process.

They certainly are providing themselves job security.

"dso371@gmail.com" wrote:

> Sure enough, after waiting impatiently for months, I tried to install
> SP1 today and it was a disaster.
>
> 1) It gets to 'configuring updates stage 3 of 3' and FREEZES at 0%.
> 2)This forces reboot, same freeze.
> 3) So I reboot in safe mode, and it resumes installation of stage 3
> and gets to 98% - whoo - hoo!
> 4) And then, after two hours of this, it says 'Service Pack could not
> install reverting changes'
> 5) Back to square 1, an entire evening wasted.
>
> Damn you, Microsoft. I'm running a simple laptop, nothing special. I
> disabled the firewall, the antivirus, antispyware, and network before
> trying to install SP1. Nothing. NADA.
>
> How long do you idiots have to work on this thing to get it to succeed
> on any simple laptop? Years? Decades? Other people are reporting
> similar problems. Are you gonna respond?
>
> Or are you gonna just *&%$ up my machine permanently when you FORCE
> this stinking, bug-ridden service pack onto it in a few weeks time?
> And then who do I sue?
>
> Thanks for nothing, Microsoft. I hope you go bankrupt one day.
>
 
"cwhite" <cwhite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BF0F22FB-E2F8-4F93-889A-10F8D83B9B1B@microsoft.com...
>I too installed service pack 1 as soon as it was available thru tech net.
> Install went okay but suddenly every morning I had to repair my office
> suite
> and my users/localsettings locked me out. I posted the problems, waited a
> week and uninstalled. Just reinstalled it a few days ago. Having similar
> problems with office suite and now see a remote access error
> Now I am getting this error:
> The Remote Access Connection Manager service depends on the Secure Socket
> Tunneling Protocol Service service which failed to start because of the
> following error:
> The account specified for this service is different from the account
> specified for other services running in the same process.
>
> They certainly are providing themselves job security.
>
> "dso371@gmail.com" wrote:
>
>> Sure enough, after waiting impatiently for months, I tried to install
>> SP1 today and it was a disaster.
>>
>> 1) It gets to 'configuring updates stage 3 of 3' and FREEZES at 0%.
>> 2)This forces reboot, same freeze.
>> 3) So I reboot in safe mode, and it resumes installation of stage 3
>> and gets to 98% - whoo - hoo!
>> 4) And then, after two hours of this, it says 'Service Pack could not
>> install reverting changes'
>> 5) Back to square 1, an entire evening wasted.
>>
>> Damn you, Microsoft. I'm running a simple laptop, nothing special. I
>> disabled the firewall, the antivirus, antispyware, and network before
>> trying to install SP1. Nothing. NADA.
>>
>> How long do you idiots have to work on this thing to get it to succeed
>> on any simple laptop? Years? Decades? Other people are reporting
>> similar problems. Are you gonna respond?
>>
>> Or are you gonna just *&%$ up my machine permanently when you FORCE
>> this stinking, bug-ridden service pack onto it in a few weeks time?
>> And then who do I sue?
>>
>> Thanks for nothing, Microsoft. I hope you go bankrupt one day.
>>


I don't know why you are having a problem. Maybe it's you that's causing
the problem.
I've had no problems with the service pack on my Dell laptop or on my
home-built Desktop machine.

Try doing it microsoft's way, rather than yours.

--

Donald L McDaniel
Please Reply to the Original Thread.
=============================
 
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:35:19 -0700, "Donald McDaniel"
<orthocross@invalid.com> wrote:


>>> Thanks for nothing, Microsoft. I hope you go bankrupt one day.
>
>I don't know why you are having a problem.

Yet it didn't stop you from flapping your gums.

>Try doing it microsoft's way, rather than yours.

Wow, that's great advice Donald. Really. Sure. Pray tell, WHAT way is
Microsoft's way?
 
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