automatic scan

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janis75710340 Wrote:
> T-4-2,
>
> By the way......what is your real name or should I just keep addressing
> you
> as t-4-2? I have been talking to you but feel weird using that title.
> If it
> is okay with you then I guess I will keep doing it that way however, I
> just
> thought I would ask.
>
> Okay.....not to computer savvy so please tell me how to set that up.
> From
> the way I'm understanding it and correct me if I'm wrong but I'm
> guessing
> that the purpose of setting up this administrative account thing is so
> that I
> can specifically do things like scanning? Is that right? does it help
> to have
> two different accounts?
>
> I really don't do anything special as far as the CIA, FBI and NSA are
> concerened so I am good there. As far as being an accountant for the
> "family"
> alas they felt I was to "pushy", so I am out! Just kidding to anyone
> who
> reads that statement!!! But seriously as I said I am simply using my
> computer
> to take online college courses, so I am not involved in anything to
> involved.
>
> Thank you for the extension of the offer to help......I may just take
> you up
> on that! I guess after reading this post do you think it is wise for me
> to
> set up another account as an administrator? If yes, I will looking for
> direction.
>
> Thanks!
> Kindly,
> Janis
>
> "t-4-2" wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > janis75709775 Wrote:
> > > Hello janis,
> > > When it comes to scheduled scanning, you have the control. By that I
> > > mean if you do not want to leave your computer ON at 2 a.m. in order

> > to
> > > do scanning, then why won't you schedule the scanning at a time you

> > are
> > > Always home? Of course you'll have to "train" yourself to turn on the
> > > computer prior to the scheduled time. You might miss a day or 2, big
> > > deal!
> > > As to vista, I'm the opposite. I never have an XP. From what I
> > > understand, with XP you are pretty much your own boss. In vista,

> > you'll
> > > be dealing with UAC ( user account controls) a lot of time. It will

> > ask
> > > you to confirm the action you want, and sometimes you'll even get
> > > "Access Denied " message, and if you are on user account, certain
> > > actions you take will require administrator's password in order to
> > > proceed. Some people are quite upset about such hinderance,

> > particularly
> > > when they had a free hand with XP. UAC is supposed to keep you from
> > > doing something "stipud" by asking you to "think about it one more

> > time,
> > > before you are sorry." People will tell you to set up an

> > administrator
> > > account but use it only on "administrative duties", and set up an

> > user
> > > account to do you daily chore. Lastly, time and time again, there

> > were
> > > people asking for help because they forgot their administrator's
> > > password and they couldn't login for "administrative duties", or

> > worst
> > > that was their only account and therefore they had no access to their
> > > own computers. You will definitely have people advising you NOT to

> > use
> > > your date-of-birth, your name etc as password. My question is if this

> > is
> > > your computer for home use, what's the big deal?? You are not working
> > > for CIA, FBI or NSA, are you? You are not an accountant of some
> > > organised crime family, are you?? Let's not be melodramatic. I'm a

> > rebel
> > > in heart. I always want to "buck" the norm. Any questions in the

> > future,
> > > I'm here to give my best.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > t-4-2
> > > > >

Hello janis,
I'll stick to t-4-2 , for now.
This will help you understanding "user accounts" and many other windows
basics.
1. bottom left corner, there is a round logo. That is the START button,
click that.
2. you are looking at the Start menu. Right panel, look for Help And
Support, click that.
3.click Table of Contents, click Getting Started, click User Accounts &
Settings. Now just click whatever topic you want to read under that
heading, including Administrator account.
Spend some time reading all that are in the Table of Contents.
That's it for now. Like I said , any question just ask. I'm no expert,
soon you'll find out I can't answer all your questions.


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t-4-2
 
Sorry, I wasn't trying to help really.
ohmy.gif
)

I was replying to some who responded to you in order
to get clarification of their apparent position that Vista
was incapable of waking for scheduled tasks.

....and that there really was such a thing as "off" these days.

Start orb
control panel
hardware and sound
power options
choose what power button does
and/or
choose what closing the lid does
remove "hibernate" from the choices because
hibernate is too close to off (really off - if there
is such a thing anymore) for scheduled tasks to
run by "waking" the computer (from sleep).

I'm assuming here that Vista is capable of "waking"
from its hybrid sleep mode.

My knowledge of this comes only from the "help" feature
on my Vista laptop which I was referencing in my posts.

aside -

It still seems awkward trying to find information in Vista.

"janis75" wrote in message
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> how do I do that?
>
> "FromTheRafters" wrote:
>
>> Here's another excerpted from the help system for the
>> management console.
>>
>> ***
>> You can also set a condition that tells the task to wake the computer
>> from
>> sleep mode to run the task when the trigger is activated. Before you set
>> the
>> condition to wake the computer to run the task, ensure that the task will
>> not cause the computer to wake at inconvenient times.
>>
>> ***
>>
>> "FromTheRafters" wrote in message
>> news:OCnTAPGtIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > This may depend on exactly what is meant by "on"
>> > or "off". Electronic gadgets are seldom really off.
>> >
>> > Check Vista's help FAQ entry for "When should I
>> > shut down my computer?"
>> >
>> > In help, use search term "turn off" and the first thing
>> > should be the FAQ. It's about halfway down.
>> >
>> >
>> > "C.B." wrote in message
>> > news:BB7E5D7F-F46D-40B5-81C6-F9D6914A9504@microsoft.com...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "t-4-2" wrote in message
>> >> news:c81df611494ced63e9097c6b51f18bb2@nntp-gateway.com...
>> >>>
>> >>> janis75707654 Wrote:
>> >>>> this may seem like a weird question / situation whatever but I have
>> >>>> both
>> >>>> my
>> >>>> windows defender and my anti-virus program set to automatically scan
>> >>>> my
>> >>>> computer at 2 am on a daily basis. I usually put my computer into
>> >>>> hibernation
>> >>>> when I am done working on it and for some reason it doesn't seem
>> >>>> like
>> >>>> either
>> >>>> one of these programs is doing what it should be doing. If I
>> >>>> actually
>> >>>> do a
>> >>>> complete shutdown on my computer then after I restart it it tells me
>> >>>> that my
>> >>>> computer hasn't been scanned in x amount of days. I thought I had
>> >>>> everything
>> >>>> set up correctly but I guess I may be missing something. Does
>> >>>> anybody
>> >>>> have
>> >>>> any suggestions? I have never had an issue like this. Every other
>> >>>> computer I
>> >>>> have had things worked and scanned just fine like they were set up
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> do.
>> >>>> Please help
>> >>> Hello janis,
>> >>> Maybe * I * am the one missing something. I always thought the
>> >>> computer had to be ON before scanning could be executed. Am I wrong ?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> t-4-2
>> >>
>> >> No.
>> >>
>> >> C.B.
>> >

>>
>>
 
"FromTheRafters" wrote in message
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> Sorry, I wasn't trying to help really.
ohmy.gif
)
>
>
> I'm assuming here that Vista is capable of "waking"
> from its hybrid sleep mode.
>


All this has got me wondering, so I've just edited my Windows Defender scan
task to wake the computer (it's scheduled for 0200 and has never run at that
time). I'll make sure I put the computer into Sleep mode tonight and post
back here tomorrow to let you know if the task ran.

I do have logs in my Event Viewer that Windows Update has been running at
3AM but I've never been around to see it happen.

....and I can't find a scheduled task for Windows Update so some other
process or service must control that.
 
Rojo Habe712947 Wrote:
> "FromTheRafters" wrote in message
> news:uwfiT3TtIHA.524@xxxxxx> > >
> > > Sorry, I wasn't trying to help really.
ohmy.gif
)
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm assuming here that Vista is capable of "waking"
> > > from its hybrid sleep mode.
> > > > >

>
> All this has got me wondering, so I've just edited my Windows
> Defender scan
> task to wake the computer (it's scheduled for 0200 and has never run
> at that
> time). I'll make sure I put the computer into Sleep mode tonight and
> post
> back here tomorrow to let you know if the task ran.
>
> I do have logs in my Event Viewer that Windows Update has been
> running at
> 3AM but I've never been around to see it happen.
>
> ....and I can't find a scheduled task for Windows Update so some
> other
> process or service must control that.
Hello Rojo,
See screenshot link. It apparently applies to windows updates, but
nothing else.

'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
(http://imagegrotto.com/view-autoupdate11435.JPG)


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t-4-2
 
"t-4-2" wrote in message
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>
> Rojo Habe712947 Wrote:
>> "FromTheRafters" wrote in message
>> news:uwfiT3TtIHA.524@xxxxxx> > >
>> > > Sorry, I wasn't trying to help really.
ohmy.gif
)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I'm assuming here that Vista is capable of "waking"
>> > > from its hybrid sleep mode.
>> > > > >

>>
>> All this has got me wondering, so I've just edited my Windows
>> Defender scan
>> task to wake the computer (it's scheduled for 0200 and has never run
>> at that
>> time). I'll make sure I put the computer into Sleep mode tonight and
>> post
>> back here tomorrow to let you know if the task ran.
>>
>> I do have logs in my Event Viewer that Windows Update has been
>> running at
>> 3AM but I've never been around to see it happen.
>>
>> ....and I can't find a scheduled task for Windows Update so some
>> other
>> process or service must control that.
> Hello Rojo,
> See screenshot link. It apparently applies to windows updates, but
> nothing else.
>
> 'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
> (http://imagegrotto.com/view-autoupdate11435.JPG)
>
>
> --
> t-4-2

I can now confirm that if you schedule a task and tick the box that says
"Wake the computer to run this task", the computer will indeed wake out of
Sleep mode. Your screenshot implies that this ought to work for Hibernate
too. I'll try and remember to try this tonight, and post back here
tomorrow.

Of course, in Hibernate mode the computer is powered off, so I'm guessing
that for this to work your BIOS has to be capable of doing it.
 
"Rojo Habe" wrote in message
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>
> "t-4-2" wrote in message
> news:a398dd10cc5f28c9a520f69c3ab3fbc2@nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> Rojo Habe712947 Wrote:
>>> "FromTheRafters" wrote in message
>>> news:uwfiT3TtIHA.524@xxxxxx> > >
>>> > > Sorry, I wasn't trying to help really.
ohmy.gif
)
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm assuming here that Vista is capable of "waking"
>>> > > from its hybrid sleep mode.
>>> > > > >
>>>
>>> All this has got me wondering, so I've just edited my Windows
>>> Defender scan
>>> task to wake the computer (it's scheduled for 0200 and has never run
>>> at that
>>> time). I'll make sure I put the computer into Sleep mode tonight and
>>> post
>>> back here tomorrow to let you know if the task ran.
>>>
>>> I do have logs in my Event Viewer that Windows Update has been
>>> running at
>>> 3AM but I've never been around to see it happen.
>>>
>>> ....and I can't find a scheduled task for Windows Update so some
>>> other
>>> process or service must control that.

>> Hello Rojo,
>> See screenshot link. It apparently applies to windows updates, but
>> nothing else.
>>
>> 'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
>> (http://imagegrotto.com/view-autoupdate11435.JPG)
>>
>>
>> --
>> t-4-2
>
> I can now confirm that if you schedule a task and tick the box that says
> "Wake the computer to run this task", the computer will indeed wake out of
> Sleep mode. Your screenshot implies that this ought to work for Hibernate
> too. I'll try and remember to try this tonight, and post back here
> tomorrow.
>
> Of course, in Hibernate mode the computer is powered off, so I'm guessing
> that for this to work your BIOS has to be capable of doing it.

Hibernate is as "off" as it gets. It is "off" but "what you were doing"
has been saved to disk so that when "on" again it can resume from
there.

BIOS needs power "on" too in order to execute its code.
 
"FromTheRafters" wrote in message
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>


>> I can now confirm that if you schedule a task and tick the box that says
>> "Wake the computer to run this task", the computer will indeed wake out
>> of Sleep mode. Your screenshot implies that this ought to work for
>> Hibernate too. I'll try and remember to try this tonight, and post back
>> here tomorrow.
>>
>> Of course, in Hibernate mode the computer is powered off, so I'm guessing
>> that for this to work your BIOS has to be capable of doing it.

>
> Hibernate is as "off" as it gets. It is "off" but "what you were doing"
> has been saved to disk so that when "on" again it can resume from
> there.
>
> BIOS needs power "on" too in order to execute its code.

Yes, well perhaps I should clarify. When I say powered off I don't mean at
the wall. I mean still switched on at the wall and with the PSU still
receiving power via its physical power switch (if fitted). As you say, it
can only be off for a given meaning of the word "off". Hibernate mode is
"powered off" in the same way that Shut Down is. Sleep mode does everything
that Hibernate does (saves the RAM to disk) but keeps the RAM alive for a
faster Resume time, therefore using a tiny bit more power.

If the machine is unplugged from the mains (as some people say you should do
with all appliances) then obviously it's never going to wake up (unless of
course it has batteries, as laptops do). Sorry if I caused any confusion.

I'm trying the Hibernate test tonight in an attempt to recreate the OP's
symptoms. If it works then all janis75 should need to do is locate the
tasks in question and put a tick in a box.
 
Rojo Habe713926 Wrote:
> "FromTheRafters" wrote in message
> news:eZHGKF5tIHA.5268@xxxxxx> > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hibernate is as "off" as it gets. It is "off" but "what you were

> > doing"
> > > has been saved to disk so that when "on" again it can resume from
> > > there.
> > >
> > > BIOS needs power "on" too in order to execute its code. > >

>
> Yes, well perhaps I should clarify. When I say powered off I don't
> mean at
> the wall. I mean still switched on at the wall and with the PSU still
> receiving power via its physical power switch (if fitted). As you
> say, it
> can only be off for a given meaning of the word "off". Hibernate mode
> is
> "powered off" in the same way that Shut Down is. Sleep mode does
> everything
> that Hibernate does (saves the RAM to disk) but keeps the RAM alive
> for a
> faster Resume time, therefore using a tiny bit more power.
>
> If the machine is unplugged from the mains (as some people say you
> should do
> with all appliances) then obviously it's never going to wake up
> (unless of
> course it has batteries, as laptops do). Sorry if I caused any
> confusion.
>
> I'm trying the Hibernate test tonight in an attempt to recreate the
> OP's
> symptoms. If it works then all janis75 should need to do is locate
> the
> tasks in question and put a tick in a box.
Just a second, Rojo. My screenshot was about windows updates, not
scanning which ianis was asking about ---- scanning. Please show me
where you find the task schedule and the box to tick . I'd like to see
that myself. Thank you.


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t-4-2
 
Yeah, sorry. This thread's getting a bit long and confusing.

Click the Start button, type 'Task Scheduler' (without the quotes) and press
Enter. If UAC complains click Continue. In the Task Scheduler View menu,
select 'Show hidden tasks' and then navigate in the left pane to Task
Scheduler Library\Microsoft\Windows Defender. In the top middle pane,
double click 'MP Scheduled Scan' and in the dialog that appears click the
Conditions tab. You should see the checkbox about two thirds of the way
down, under Power.

Screenshot attached.



"t-4-2" wrote in message
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>
> Rojo Habe713926 Wrote:
>> "FromTheRafters" wrote in message
>> news:eZHGKF5tIHA.5268@xxxxxx> > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Hibernate is as "off" as it gets. It is "off" but "what you were
>> > doing"
>> > > has been saved to disk so that when "on" again it can resume from
>> > > there.
>> > >
>> > > BIOS needs power "on" too in order to execute its code. > >

>>
>> Yes, well perhaps I should clarify. When I say powered off I don't
>> mean at
>> the wall. I mean still switched on at the wall and with the PSU still
>> receiving power via its physical power switch (if fitted). As you
>> say, it
>> can only be off for a given meaning of the word "off". Hibernate mode
>> is
>> "powered off" in the same way that Shut Down is. Sleep mode does
>> everything
>> that Hibernate does (saves the RAM to disk) but keeps the RAM alive
>> for a
>> faster Resume time, therefore using a tiny bit more power.
>>
>> If the machine is unplugged from the mains (as some people say you
>> should do
>> with all appliances) then obviously it's never going to wake up
>> (unless of
>> course it has batteries, as laptops do). Sorry if I caused any
>> confusion.
>>
>> I'm trying the Hibernate test tonight in an attempt to recreate the
>> OP's
>> symptoms. If it works then all janis75 should need to do is locate
>> the
>> tasks in question and put a tick in a box.
> Just a second, Rojo. My screenshot was about windows updates, not
> scanning which ianis was asking about ---- scanning. Please show me
> where you find the task schedule and the box to tick . I'd like to see
> that myself. Thank you.
>
>
> --
> t-4-2
 
Rojo Habe714469 Wrote:
> Yeah, sorry. This thread's getting a bit long and confusing.
>
> Click the Start button, type 'Task Scheduler' (without the quotes) and
> press
> Enter. If UAC complains click Continue. In the Task Scheduler View
> menu,
> select 'Show hidden tasks' and then navigate in the left pane to Task
> Scheduler LibraryMicrosoftWindows Defender. In the top middle pane,
> double click 'MP Scheduled Scan' and in the dialog that appears click
> the
> Conditions tab. You should see the checkbox about two thirds of the way
> down, under Power.
>
> Screenshot attached.
>
>
>
> "t-4-2" wrote in message
> news:719097a83b62e5b4e8ea83cbba51b515@xxxxxx-gateway.com...

Thank you for the instruction. I had the box " wake --" ticked.
PS. What screenshot ?
And yes, the thread is too long. That's it. Thanks again.


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t-4-2
 
"t-4-2" wrote in message
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> PS. What screenshot ?


It's definitely attached in Windows Mail. Are you on a Vbulletin forum
somewhere? Maybe they blocked it.
 
Rojo Habe715138 Wrote:
> "t-4-2" wrote in message
> news:95ba6805723d3559f1a603a2fde5ade4@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
>
> It's definitely attached in Windows Mail. Are you on a Vbulletin forum
> somewhere? Maybe they blocked it.

Vista Forum ( vistax64.com ) is where I go because I get notifications
if I have replies to my threads. They blocked your screenshot. I did
find your screenshot later from Windows Mail. I rarely go to WM for
obvious reason -- no notification.
Come to think of it, you saw my screenshot posted in Vista forum, but I
couldn't see yours posted in WM ?? That makes sense ???


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t-4-2
 
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