Posted August 23, 200816 yr Thanks for the real important info. I have close to 100 videos of trips through Mexico and family videos that I have wanted to put on DVDs for a few years now and been unable to transfer them. All we could do is watch them on the tiny camera screen or plug the camera into a TV. I started out with XP X64 bit OS and then installed Vista Ultimate X64 bit. Sometimes I have to download a patch or an updated version of a driver but every single program, game, hardware, or whatever has always worked with both systems>>>>>EXCEPT SONY STUFF. All other companies make a driver or patch to make there products usable except Sony. With your advise I have spoted a DV output port on the camera and my PC has firewire so I can't wait to see if it works. I was going to go out and buy an old PC just to get the pictures out and on a DVD. I have the DCR-TRV250 Sony Digital 8 Hanycam and it's picture quality is great. Since it did not work with any PCs except for the old ones I never owned, I had to buy a new Memory chip all digital camera and really easy to load the videos/pics into the PC, printer, etc. Thanks for the info. and how did you get to talk to someone from Sony? Thanks again. RetroDoctor out "Eddie" wrote: > Spoke with someone from Sony, most video cameras are equipped with a usb > streaming method or cable. Windows Vista does not recognize this connection. > You have to purchase a dv cable with a IEE plug so Vista will work with > these cameras. I have the Sony dcr-trv250 > -- > Eddie O. > > > "Donald L McDaniel" wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:53:53 -0600, Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net> > > wrote: > > > > >Donald L McDaniel wrote: > > >> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:49:16 -0500, "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" > > >> <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Sony would be the one to get a USB driver from for your Handycam TRV340E > > >>> Digital 8 camcorder > > >> > > >> I really don't understand why these folks don't [or can't] realize > > >> this, Andre. Why would one expect to be able to get a driver from > > >> anyone but the manufacturer of the device? If the manufacturer > > >> doesn't [or won't] provide a Vista driver for their own devices, those > > >> owners are just out-of-luck, and need to face reality sooner rather > > >> than later. Or they need to use an OS for which the manufacturer DOES > > >> provide drivers. Or they need to start a "movement", and demand > > >> drivers from the manufacturer. > > >> > > >> Microsoft, in league with many device manufacturers, provides many and > > >> diverse device drivers with each iteratio of its OSes. Expecting them > > >> to provide EVERY device driver for EVERY device a user owns [or could > > >> conceivably own] is completely unreasonable, considering how many > > >> OEMs there are out there. To even consider such an idea is a waste of > > >> the user's [and our] time and intellect. > > >> > > >> Donald McDaniel > > > > > > > > >But OTOH if you buy a car from Ford you don't expect to have to have to > > >evaluate every nut, bolt, seatbelt, oil and air filter to make sure the > > >thing works as a car. > > > > > >People's expectations of compatibility are partly due to Microsoft's > > >past efforts as maintaining it. XP has drivers for vast numbers of > > >things, and they work, it is what people are used to. Not every driver > > >is familiar with the technical aspects and pitfalls of buying a new car, > > >why expect them to be with a new operating system... > > > > I do understand your logic. However, it is only useful to create > > emotional responses in your readers. > > > > Your resoning IS a little specious, and for these reasons. > > 1) Microsoft is not Ford. > > 2) An OS is not a piece of machinery such as an automobile(except > > maybe metaphorically). > > 3) While Microsoft HAS worked hard to make their OSes available to the > > widest possible number of computer owners, they do NOT have the legal > > rights to write drivers for any-and-all hardware device, since they do > > not manufacture them. > > 4) Microsoft always works closely with the OEMs who want their devices > > to be included in the Windows Hardware Compatibility List to write > > drivers, if the OEM has no in-house device driver writers.. > > 5) If an OEM refuses to give Microsoft the necessary information which > > will enable them to write a device driver, what can Microsoft do? > > Absolutely NOTHING, but buy the device manufacturer. While Microsoft > > has a plethora of cash, they simply don't have enough to buy every > > device manufacturer, not would those manufacturers necessarily WANT > > their companies to be sold to ANYONE. > > 6) Microsoft is NOT required to include compatiblilty for any and all > > devices by ANYTHING but the Market, and their own bottom-line. Anyone > > can see that they are not worried about their bottom-line, so unless > > the users and manufacturers can make a good enough case for their > > particular devices, they simply won't. > > > > I can't say any more, since there is nothing more to say about this. > > Just accept it, and bite the bullet if your particular device has no > > driver from Microsoft, and buy a device which does have a compatible > > driver, either from Microsoft, in union with the manufacturer, or from > > the manufacturer itself. > > > > BTW, in many cases, especially with Vista, devices fail to work for a > > simple reason: The manufacturer has chosen not to make their device > > compatible with Vista, since it would cost too much money, so they > > make one which is, and usually charge more for it to make up the cost > > of making it compatible with Vista. > > > > This has happened with each iteration of Windows, and will continue to > > happen each time there is a newer iteration of Windows. It's all > > about the money, my friend. > > > > Let's face it: ALL computer and software manufacturers are in it for > > the money. This is never going to change. If they can't make money > > with their products...Well, you know what happens when a manufacturer > > stops making money. We all do. > > > > Accept it.. > > > > Donald L. McDaniel > >
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