On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:33:51 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"

<cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:

>Thank you for answering my question. To summarize,

>you are criticizing a product (OneCare v.2.5) which you

>have absolutely no experience with....wow!

>

>--

>Carey Frisch

>Microsoft MVP

>Windows Desktop Experience -

>Windows Vista Enthusiast

 

You are a unpaid huckster for Microsoft. Between you and Frank, hard

to tell who's the bigger fool.

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:14:18 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>I don't quite see how you could call that web page or the User Guide at all

>"generic", except that it's just called "User Guide", which I agree is quite

>generic, <s>. Quite the contrary, they seem quite specific, though personal

>experience with LinkSys says that while it's "complete", it's likely to

>leave you with more questions than answers.

 

I downloaded the one on the left that turned out to be a 127 page

catalog <slapping self on forehead>

Mystery solved.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:f9cq849nqjdprciq76akt601hmm45qhjod@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:14:18 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>

>>I don't quite see how you could call that web page or the User Guide at

>>all

>>"generic", except that it's just called "User Guide", which I agree is

>>quite

>>generic, <s>. Quite the contrary, they seem quite specific, though

>>personal

>>experience with LinkSys says that while it's "complete", it's likely to

>>leave you with more questions than answers.

>

> I downloaded the one on the left that turned out to be a 127 page

> catalog <slapping self on forehead>

Flyerfan27 wrote:

> I sure would appreciate the help. I just want to avoid getting another one

> of those spywares. That spyware affected me as bad as any virus I have had. I

> can't see how those spywares can be legal for a company to do. It is just as

> malicious as any virus.

>

 

A router or any FW is not going to protect you from spyware, Trojan or

a worm when you initiate the actions that lead to the compromise of the

computer by not practicing safe hex.

 

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2007/05/hundreds_click_.html

 

You see when you have a computer that's setting behind the router and

you click on something at a Website with a browser, then the browser has

sent outbound traffic to the site from the computer. That's called a

solicitation for inbound traffic from a remote site. The router or FW is

going to allow all inbound traffic that has been solicited. The router

or the FW is not going to check for any content of the data that's

coming from the site. It is going to allow that inbound traffic back to

the machine and to the program running (the browser in this case) that

made the solicitation.

 

Unsolicited traffic is any inbound traffic that has not been solicited,

as indicated above, by a computer that has a program that made the

solicitation. That kind of traffic is going to be blocked by the router

or FW. Unsolicited traffic inbound can be from self-populating worms,

hackers etc that scan the Internet and are trying to find unprotected

machines, ones that are not protected by a router or a FW. The router or

FW is going to block unsolicited inbound traffic by default.

 

http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html

 

So you must be careful with your actions that could lead to the

compromise of the machine, because 99% of the time, it is you that has

clicked on something at a Web site or in an email that has installed

something on the machine that starts the solicitation from the computer,

which no router or FW is going to stop the solicited inbound traffic by

default.

 

Your second problem is that your router is a wireless solution, which

means that if you have not protected the wireless on the router, then

someone can hack your network, join it, and hack your machines that way.

 

For what it's worth, you should try to do something on the wireless to

try to protect the network wired or wireless when wireless is involved.

 

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/wirelesssecurity/tp/wifisecurity.htm

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> Though you will of course not be capable of researching it yourself, I can

> guarantee you that blacksmiths did not go out in a "few years" after the

> automobile made its debut. It took decades. In fact, there are still a

> sizeable number of people using blacksmiths (or, to be more accurate,

> horseshoers or farriers) to this very day, especially in some of the

> wealthiest provinces.

>

 

Unfortunately for MS, Windows' future is not comparable to a

thoroughbred race horse or a Clydesdale for Budweiser.

 

Alias

fb wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> FB wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Hobbes wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "phoenix_abhi" <phoenix_abhi.3d81dw@winvistaclub.com> wrote in

>>>>> message news:phoenix_abhi.3d81dw@winvistaclub.com...

>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The world speaks about the attacks on Windows, Windows only. Why the

>>>>>> Windows are so notorious ? Is there anyone care to know that Linux

>>>>>> are

>>>>>> the most attacked OS for last few months ? But none of them was fully

>>>>>> success. That is the reason behind most of the users or critics

>>>>>> unknown

>>>>>> about.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> '*Read here for more*'

>>>>>> (http://www.zone-h.org/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I am dual booter and found Ubuntu is much safer and faster than

>>>>>> Vista.

>>>>>> Vista it self not slow, But all the crap AV, Anti

>>>>>> spy,mal,keylogger and

>>>>>> so on make it damn slow and crawl.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Linux is slowly and steadily catching up and will over take the

>>>>>> windows

>>>>>> in a few years. The most of the windows users are frustrated and

>>>>>> Unhappy

>>>>>> towards the MS for not providing an OS capable of what they paid

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> In a few "hundred" years judging by 15 years = 1 % market share.

>>>>>

>>>>> More likely Windows, Apple, and Linux will co-exist for many years

>>>>> to come.

>>>>>

>>>>> The Open Source community would need to "buy out" MS for Linux to

>>>>> overtake Windows in a "few" years.

>>>>> And that isn't gonna happen...unless you heard something?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Gosh, that's what the blacksmiths said when the car made the scene.

>>>

>>>

>>> How dumb are you? Comparing cars to horses? We're comparing desk

>>> top's to desk top's.

>>> I bet you didn't know that did you?...LOL!

>>> Idiot loser!

>>

>>

>> Once again a simple analogy flies right over Frank's head.

>>

>

> Once again, mr liar, mr troll uses an analogy of totally unrelated

> subjects.

> Won't work loser.

> Face it, you're stupid!

 

Translation: it flew right over Frank's head again.

 

Alias

Kerry Brown wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:44:34 +0200, Alias wrote:

>

>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>> That one vulnerability was patched in days but it's been months that

>>>> Windows users have been jumping up and down about it because they

>>>> finally came up with ONE exploit. BFD. If you keep your Ubuntu

>>>> up-to-date and enable a hard NAT firewall in your router, it's BULLET

>>>> PROOF compared to Windows of any flavor.

>>>>

>>>>

>>> You really don't understand security do you? Yes, currently Linux isn't

>>> attacked as much as Windows so it's less likely you will be the victim

>>> of crooks while surfing the Internet using Linux rather than Windows.

>>> This fact does not make you invulnerable or as you say BULLET PROOF. By

>>> your own admission, quoted above, Linux needs to be kept up to date and

>>> you need to protect all devices in your network. That was the point of

>>> my original post to this thread. Software alone is not a strong enough

>>> security measure. Your posts that everyone should switch to Linux don't

>>> address any of this, until your last reply to me. The Internet is not a

>>> safe place. You need to take some basic precautions no matter what OS

>>> you happen to be using. If someone is not practicing safe surfing and

>>> not keeping their OS and applications up to date switching from Windows

>>> to Linux won't help them. If your reason for posting here is to help

>>> people by answering their questions then you should expand on your

>>> answers a bit rather than just suggesting everyone switch to Linux.

>>> Switching to Linux may be a valid option in some cases but the switch

>>> alone isn't the full answer. If you have other reasons for posting then

>>> maybe you could enlighten us on what they are.

>>>

>>>

>> With Ubuntu, a very obvious RED icon appears with a large balloon

>> notification stating that there are updates to *everything* installed on

>> your computer. No need to run round updating everything individually

>> which most home users *never* do. Note I said *compared to Windows*,

>> it's bullet proof. I did not say that it is bullet proof.

>>

>> Alias

>

> I agree the package manager in Ubuntu is superior to the way Windows

> manages programs and updates. It has some problems but for the most part

> it's better than what's available in Windows. If you care to check the

> headers of this post you'll see I use Linux as well. I know it's good

> points and it's bad points.

>

> None if this is to the point of the original question. It also doesn't

> address the fact that you continually post "Switch to Linux" as a

> solution to almost every question asked on this newsgroup. Linux has many

> good points and for some people is a viable alternative to Windows. Your

> simplistic posts don't do anybody any service though. If you want people

> to switch to Linux you should point out how Linux would solve their

> particular problem, not just tell them to switch to Linux.

>

 

If one goes to http://www.ubuntu.com, there is plenty of information to aid

anyone in making a decision and whether it suits their needs or not.

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

> fb wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> FB wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Hobbes wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "phoenix_abhi" <phoenix_abhi.3d81dw@winvistaclub.com> wrote in

>>>>>> message news:phoenix_abhi.3d81dw@winvistaclub.com...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The world speaks about the attacks on Windows, Windows only. Why the

>>>>>>> Windows are so notorious ? Is there anyone care to know that

>>>>>>> Linux are

>>>>>>> the most attacked OS for last few months ? But none of them was

>>>>>>> fully

>>>>>>> success. That is the reason behind most of the users or critics

>>>>>>> unknown

>>>>>>> about.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> '*Read here for more*'

>>>>>>> (http://www.zone-h.org/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I am dual booter and found Ubuntu is much safer and faster than

>>>>>>> Vista.

>>>>>>> Vista it self not slow, But all the crap AV, Anti

>>>>>>> spy,mal,keylogger and

>>>>>>> so on make it damn slow and crawl.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Linux is slowly and steadily catching up and will over take the

>>>>>>> windows

>>>>>>> in a few years. The most of the windows users are frustrated and

>>>>>>> Unhappy

>>>>>>> towards the MS for not providing an OS capable of what they paid

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> In a few "hundred" years judging by 15 years = 1 % market share.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> More likely Windows, Apple, and Linux will co-exist for many years

>>>>>> to come.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The Open Source community would need to "buy out" MS for Linux to

>>>>>> overtake Windows in a "few" years.

>>>>>> And that isn't gonna happen...unless you heard something?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Gosh, that's what the blacksmiths said when the car made the scene.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> How dumb are you? Comparing cars to horses? We're comparing desk

>>>> top's to desk top's.

>>>> I bet you didn't know that did you?...LOL!

>>>> Idiot loser!

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Once again a simple analogy flies right over Frank's head.

>>>

>>

>> Once again, mr liar, mr troll uses an analogy of totally unrelated

>> subjects.

>> Won't work loser.

>> Face it, you're stupid!

>

>

> Translation: it flew right over Frank's head again.

>

> Alias

 

The real translation: alias got his ass kicked (as usual) and he can't

deal with that truth.

Alias wrote:

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>

>> Though you will of course not be capable of researching it yourself, I

>> can guarantee you that blacksmiths did not go out in a "few years"

>> after the automobile made its debut. It took decades. In fact, there

>> are still a sizeable number of people using blacksmiths (or, to be

>> more accurate, horseshoers or farriers) to this very day, especially

>> in some of the wealthiest provinces.

>>

>

> Unfortunately for MS, Windows' future is not comparable to a

> thoroughbred race horse or a Clydesdale for Budweiser.

>

> Alias

 

And unfortunately for you, you have made a bad, unacceptable analogy.

Try comparing apples to apples instead of apples to sour grapes!...LOL!

Loser!

I believe he is talking about NAT, not a hardware firewall built into the

router.

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%231TYZ2D8IHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>I don't know what brand router you're using, but if it has a true firewall,

>it must have some kind of configuration page, list of open or blocked

>ports, port-forwarding, or whatever. If it doesn't have that ability to be

>configured, I don't see how a firewall could be present (other than Windows

>Firewall), or if there is one, it's seriously idiot-proofed and therefore

>not very good. You got a make/model for that device so it can be looked up?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:ajbp84ldqrk1rf3bdpsh5npfd4dp40k4q7@4ax.com...

>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:09:41 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>>

>>>Every router I've ever installed that has a firewall had the firewall

>>>enabled by default.

>>

>> Thank you for that!

>>

>> When I read that it needed to be configured I scratched my head

>> wondering how I'd missed that. I immediately went to the

>> configuration panel for my router and couldn't find a damned thing.

>>

>> I should have remembered that I'd put my system to several different

>> tests online to check my security with only the router for a firewall

>> and it passed every test thrown at it.

>

>

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:10:21 -0500, Nonny wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:39:22 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>

>>So were the rest of us.

>

> I thought it was a "group thing" where all the existing MVPs had

> input, but I guess not.

>

> Maybe he has a shill agreement requiring him to push MS extras. Ya

> think?

>

There has to be another reason!

John John (MVP) is on the other side of the spectrum. He reckons 3rd party

PFW's are superior to the in-build version.... Oh well :-)

FB wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> fb wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> FB wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "phoenix_abhi" <phoenix_abhi.3d81dw@winvistaclub.com> wrote in

>>>>>>> message news:phoenix_abhi.3d81dw@winvistaclub.com...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> The world speaks about the attacks on Windows, Windows only. Why

>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> Windows are so notorious ? Is there anyone care to know that

>>>>>>>> Linux are

>>>>>>>> the most attacked OS for last few months ? But none of them was

>>>>>>>> fully

>>>>>>>> success. That is the reason behind most of the users or critics

>>>>>>>> unknown

>>>>>>>> about.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> '*Read here for more*'

>>>>>>>> (http://www.zone-h.org/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I am dual booter and found Ubuntu is much safer and faster than

>>>>>>>> Vista.

>>>>>>>> Vista it self not slow, But all the crap AV, Anti

>>>>>>>> spy,mal,keylogger and

>>>>>>>> so on make it damn slow and crawl.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Linux is slowly and steadily catching up and will over take the

>>>>>>>> windows

>>>>>>>> in a few years. The most of the windows users are frustrated and

>>>>>>>> Unhappy

>>>>>>>> towards the MS for not providing an OS capable of what they paid

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> In a few "hundred" years judging by 15 years = 1 % market share.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> More likely Windows, Apple, and Linux will co-exist for many

>>>>>>> years to come.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The Open Source community would need to "buy out" MS for Linux to

>>>>>>> overtake Windows in a "few" years.

>>>>>>> And that isn't gonna happen...unless you heard something?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Gosh, that's what the blacksmiths said when the car made the scene.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> How dumb are you? Comparing cars to horses? We're comparing desk

>>>>> top's to desk top's.

>>>>> I bet you didn't know that did you?...LOL!

>>>>> Idiot loser!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Once again a simple analogy flies right over Frank's head.

>>>>

>>>

>>> Once again, mr liar, mr troll uses an analogy of totally unrelated

>>> subjects.

>>> Won't work loser.

>>> Face it, you're stupid!

>>

>>

>> Translation: it flew right over Frank's head again.

>>

>> Alias

>

> The real translation: alias got his ass kicked (as usual) and he can't

> deal with that truth.

 

Only in your wildest dreams, troll.

 

Alias

FB wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>

>>> Though you will of course not be capable of researching it yourself,

>>> I can guarantee you that blacksmiths did not go out in a "few years"

>>> after the automobile made its debut. It took decades. In fact, there

>>> are still a sizeable number of people using blacksmiths (or, to be

>>> more accurate, horseshoers or farriers) to this very day, especially

>>> in some of the wealthiest provinces.

>>>

>>

>> Unfortunately for MS, Windows' future is not comparable to a

>> thoroughbred race horse or a Clydesdale for Budweiser.

>>

>> Alias

>

> And unfortunately for you, you have made a bad, unacceptable analogy.

> Try comparing apples to apples instead of apples to sour grapes!...LOL!

> Loser!

 

It's not my fault you have an understanding problem. I'll be installing

my copy of Vista soon and will write you a little newsgroup message

using Windows Mail. Then what will you have to say, hot shot?

 

Alias

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message

news:g6k5lh$38d$1@registered.motzarella.org...

> FB wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>

>>>> Though you will of course not be capable of researching it yourself, I

>>>> can guarantee you that blacksmiths did not go out in a "few years"

>>>> after the automobile made its debut. It took decades. In fact, there

>>>> are still a sizeable number of people using blacksmiths (or, to be more

>>>> accurate, horseshoers or farriers) to this very day, especially in some

>>>> of the wealthiest provinces.

>>>>

>>>

>>> Unfortunately for MS, Windows' future is not comparable to a

>>> thoroughbred race horse or a Clydesdale for Budweiser.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> And unfortunately for you, you have made a bad, unacceptable analogy. Try

>> comparing apples to apples instead of apples to sour grapes!...LOL!

>> Loser!

>

> It's not my fault you have an understanding problem. I'll be installing my

> copy of Vista soon and will write you a little newsgroup message using

> Windows Mail. Then what will you have to say, hot shot?

>

> Alias

 

Well, based on your demonstrated lack of knowledge on how

a low-end consumer-grade router works, that could take a while.

 

Technical folks are standing by...

 

Chris

He's talking about the *software* firewall sitting on top of the router's OS

which is installed on/in its hardware. I still don't understand what a

"hardware firewall" is. I don't think there is any such thing.

 

Anyway, that's what he's talking about, as you would know if you'd read the

manual, too.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message

news:estKnTH8IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>I believe he is talking about NAT, not a hardware firewall built into the

>router.

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%231TYZ2D8IHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>I don't know what brand router you're using, but if it has a true

>>firewall, it must have some kind of configuration page, list of open or

>>blocked ports, port-forwarding, or whatever. If it doesn't have that

>>ability to be configured, I don't see how a firewall could be present

>>(other than Windows Firewall), or if there is one, it's seriously

>>idiot-proofed and therefore not very good. You got a make/model for that

>>device so it can be looked up?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:ajbp84ldqrk1rf3bdpsh5npfd4dp40k4q7@4ax.com...

>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:09:41 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>>>

>>>>Every router I've ever installed that has a firewall had the firewall

>>>>enabled by default.

>>>

>>> Thank you for that!

>>>

>>> When I read that it needed to be configured I scratched my head

>>> wondering how I'd missed that. I immediately went to the

>>> configuration panel for my router and couldn't find a damned thing.

>>>

>>> I should have remembered that I'd put my system to several different

>>> tests online to check my security with only the router for a firewall

>>> and it passed every test thrown at it.

>>

>>

>

>

Chris S. wrote:

>

> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:g6k5lh$38d$1@registered.motzarella.org...

>> FB wrote:

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Though you will of course not be capable of researching it

>>>>> yourself, I can guarantee you that blacksmiths did not go out in a

>>>>> "few years" after the automobile made its debut. It took decades.

>>>>> In fact, there are still a sizeable number of people using

>>>>> blacksmiths (or, to be more accurate, horseshoers or farriers) to

>>>>> this very day, especially in some of the wealthiest provinces.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Unfortunately for MS, Windows' future is not comparable to a

>>>> thoroughbred race horse or a Clydesdale for Budweiser.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> And unfortunately for you, you have made a bad, unacceptable analogy.

>>> Try comparing apples to apples instead of apples to sour grapes!...LOL!

>>> Loser!

>>

>> It's not my fault you have an understanding problem. I'll be

>> installing my copy of Vista soon and will write you a little newsgroup

>> message using Windows Mail. Then what will you have to say, hot shot?

>>

>> Alias

>

> Well, based on your demonstrated lack of knowledge on how

> a low-end consumer-grade router works, that could take a while.

>

> Technical folks are standing by...

>

> Chris

>

 

My router works just fine, thank you very much and I won't need any

technical help to install Vista.

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

> Chris S. wrote:

>

>>

>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message

>> news:g6k5lh$38d$1@registered.motzarella.org...

>>

>>> FB wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Though you will of course not be capable of researching it

>>>>>> yourself, I can guarantee you that blacksmiths did not go out in a

>>>>>> "few years" after the automobile made its debut. It took decades.

>>>>>> In fact, there are still a sizeable number of people using

>>>>>> blacksmiths (or, to be more accurate, horseshoers or farriers) to

>>>>>> this very day, especially in some of the wealthiest provinces.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Unfortunately for MS, Windows' future is not comparable to a

>>>>> thoroughbred race horse or a Clydesdale for Budweiser.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> And unfortunately for you, you have made a bad, unacceptable

>>>> analogy. Try comparing apples to apples instead of apples to sour

>>>> grapes!...LOL!

>>>> Loser!

>>>

>>>

>>> It's not my fault you have an understanding problem. I'll be

>>> installing my copy of Vista soon and will write you a little

>>> newsgroup message using Windows Mail. Then what will you have to say,

>>> hot shot?

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> Well, based on your demonstrated lack of knowledge on how

>> a low-end consumer-grade router works, that could take a while.

>>

>> Technical folks are standing by...

>>

>> Chris

>>

>

> My router works just fine, thank you very much and I won't need any

> technical help to install Vista.

>

> Alias

 

You proly have an infected linux box and don't even know it and don't

known how to even find out if you do.

You don't have Vista so stop the lying, linux troll.

fb wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Chris S. wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message

>>> news:g6k5lh$38d$1@registered.motzarella.org...

>>>

>>>> FB wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Though you will of course not be capable of researching it

>>>>>>> yourself, I can guarantee you that blacksmiths did not go out in

>>>>>>> a "few years" after the automobile made its debut. It took

>>>>>>> decades. In fact, there are still a sizeable number of people

>>>>>>> using blacksmiths (or, to be more accurate, horseshoers or

>>>>>>> farriers) to this very day, especially in some of the wealthiest

>>>>>>> provinces.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Unfortunately for MS, Windows' future is not comparable to a

>>>>>> thoroughbred race horse or a Clydesdale for Budweiser.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> And unfortunately for you, you have made a bad, unacceptable

>>>>> analogy. Try comparing apples to apples instead of apples to sour

>>>>> grapes!...LOL!

>>>>> Loser!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> It's not my fault you have an understanding problem. I'll be

>>>> installing my copy of Vista soon and will write you a little

>>>> newsgroup message using Windows Mail. Then what will you have to

>>>> say, hot shot?

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>>

>>> Well, based on your demonstrated lack of knowledge on how

>>> a low-end consumer-grade router works, that could take a while.

>>>

>>> Technical folks are standing by...

>>>

>>> Chris

>>>

>>

>> My router works just fine, thank you very much and I won't need any

>> technical help to install Vista.

>>

>> Alias

>

> You proly have an infected linux box and don't even know it and don't

> known how to even find out if you do.

 

No I don't and yes I do, liar.

> You don't have Vista so stop the lying, linux troll.

 

Yes I do and soon you will have a little message from me to you using

Windows Mail.

 

Will you eat your words then or will you back pedal with lies, insults,

profanity, weird sexual fantasies and bluster like you always do?

 

Alias

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

IM-speak for "probably".

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message

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> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

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> Though you will of course not be capable of researching it

> yourself, I can guarantee you that blacksmiths did not go out in a "few

> years" after the automobile made its debut. It took decades. In fact,

> there are still a sizeable number of people using blacksmiths (or, to be

> more accurate, horseshoers or farriers) to this very day, especially in

> some of the wealthiest provinces.

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> Unfortunately for MS, Windows' future is not comparable to a

> thoroughbred race horse or a Clydesdale for Budweiser.

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> Alias

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> And unfortunately for you, you have made a bad, unacceptable

> analogy. Try comparing apples to apples instead of apples to sour

> grapes!...LOL!

> Loser!

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> It's not my fault you have an understanding problem. I'll be

> installing my copy of Vista soon and will write you a little newsgroup

> message using Windows Mail. Then what will you have to say, hot shot?

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> Well, based on your demonstrated lack of knowledge on how

> a low-end consumer-grade router works, that could take a while.

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> Technical folks are standing by...

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> My router works just fine, thank you very much and I won't need any

> technical help to install Vista.

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> You proly have an infected linux box and don't even know it and don't

> known how to even find out if you do.

> You don't have Vista so stop the lying, linux troll.

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Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> IM-speak for "probably".

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Yep! :-)

Da Jerk is the only one in this ng to say proly. I guess he does not

know where he is. But we all know where we would like him to be.

 

Ah

 

To Be

Or

Not

To Be

 

 

Da Jerk's response here:

 

 

 

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> IM-speak for "probably".

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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:13:01 -0700, fb <fab@nospamm.net> wrote:

>Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> IM-speak for "probably".

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>Yep! :-)

 

 

IM ====> idiotic moron. That's Frank's signature.

Ringmaster wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:13:01 -0700, fb <fab@nospamm.net> wrote:

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>>Gary S. Terhune wrote:

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>>>IM-speak for "probably".

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>>Yep! :-)

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> IM ====> idiotic moron. That's Frank's signature.

 

You just can't be civil can you mr gotemeyer?

measekite wrote:

> Da Jerk is the only one in this ng to say proly. I guess he does not

> know where he is. But we all know where we would like him to be.

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> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> IM-speak for "probably".

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You are one brain dead moron asswipe idiot fool.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:00:42 -0700, fb <fab@nospamm.net> wrote:

>Ringmaster wrote:

>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:13:01 -0700, fb <fab@nospamm.net> wrote:

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>>>Gary S. Terhune wrote:

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>>>>IM-speak for "probably".

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>>>Yep! :-)

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>> IM ====> idiotic moron. That's Frank's signature.

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>You just can't be civil can you mr gotemeyer?

 

Look who's talking.