Why is it apparently necessary for certain MVPs to reply to the known

trolls in this newsgroup?

 

I can understand some others but MVPs should know better, shouldn't

they?

 

 

 

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XS11E wrote:

> Why is it apparently necessary for certain MVPs to reply to the known

> trolls in this newsgroup?

>

> I can understand some others but MVPs should know better, shouldn't

> they?

>

>

>

>

agreed, and highly unprofessional!

and people should drive the speed limit and help little old ladies across

the street !

 

"XS11E" <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message

news:Xns997A87E1879F3xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...

>

> Why is it apparently necessary for certain MVPs to reply to the known

> trolls in this newsgroup?

>

> I can understand some others but MVPs should know better, shouldn't

> they?

>

>

>

> --

> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups

> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

Hello,

I'm not an MVP, but sometimes I can't help writing my opinion because I

don't like them to have their wrong facts everywhere without somebody

answering the (more) true facts. Of course they like to provoke, but there

are many persons reading their sometimes very silly remarks.

 

Greetings,

P. Di Stolfo

 

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"XS11E" <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag

news:Xns997A87E1879F3xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...

>

> Why is it apparently necessary for certain MVPs to reply to the known

> trolls in this newsgroup?

>

> I can understand some others but MVPs should know better, shouldn't

> they?

>

>

>

> --

> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups

> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

XS11E wrote:

> Why is it apparently necessary for certain MVPs to reply to the known

> trolls in this newsgroup?

>

> I can understand some others but MVPs should know better, shouldn't

> they?

 

Everyone should know better, especially regulars. But unfortunately too

often the human factor comes into play.

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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:21:27 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com>

wrote:

>

>Why is it apparently necessary for certain MVPs to reply to the known

>trolls in this newsgroup?

>

>I can understand some others but MVPs should know better, shouldn't

>they?

 

 

The majority of MVPs that post to this newsgroup are idiots, prima

donna types and crybabies when they're not waiting in line to take

turns kissing Microsoft ass.

I have found adding trolls to a block sender list very effective.

 

Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

http://bertk.mvps.org

Member: http://dts-l.org

 

 

XS11E wrote:

> Why is it apparently necessary for certain MVPs to reply to the known

> trolls in this newsgroup?

>

> I can understand some others but MVPs should know better, shouldn't they?

I have to say that being a recent member I find it alarming at the level

of back and forth between these two groups.

 

They seem to hijack many of the threads, leaving the actual OP and

others to wade thru their muck mire.

 

And if I may inquire, where are the Mods to take some action? These

types of threads are exactly when they are needed.

 

Trolls are inevitable, but to 'feed' them is, IMHO not wise.

 

Lets see less of that and more excellence of replies, which this forum

really has a great deal of to offer.

 

 

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I not only block trolls but I block those who perpetuate discussions with

them. It does help with the message traffic here on a daily basis. -)

 

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"Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote in message

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>I have found adding trolls to a block sender list very effective.

>

> Regards,

> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://bertk.mvps.org

> Member: http://dts-l.org

>

>

> XS11E wrote:

>> Why is it apparently necessary for certain MVPs to reply to the known

>> trolls in this newsgroup?

>>

>> I can understand some others but MVPs should know better, shouldn't they?

Uhm, there are no "mods".

 

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"TeMerc" <TeMerc.2uedd6@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message

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>

> I have to say that being a recent member I find it alarming at the level

> of back and forth between these two groups.

>

> They seem to hijack many of the threads, leaving the actual OP and

> others to wade thru their muck mire.

>

> And if I may inquire, where are the Mods to take some action? These

> types of threads are exactly when they are needed.

>

> Trolls are inevitable, but to 'feed' them is, IMHO not wise.

>

> Lets see less of that and more excellence of replies, which this forum

> really has a great deal of to offer.

>

>

> --

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>

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"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote:

> I not only block trolls but I block those who perpetuate

> discussions with them. It does help with the message traffic here

> on a daily basis. -)

 

I tend to agree but I'm reluctant to killfile certain MVPs who often

give useful information but are among the worst offenders. I guess

there's no other alternative...

 

 

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Good point Richard.

 

I also block Subject containing the word SPAM, for those who like to rename

the Subject and add SPAM to it. :)

 

Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

http://bertk.mvps.org

Member: http://dts-l.org

 

Richard G. Harper wrote:

> I not only block trolls but I block those who perpetuate discussions

> with them. It does help with the message traffic here on a daily

> basis. -)

Thank you for your intelligent helpful message.

What a jerk.

 

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:21:27 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com>

> wrote:

>

>>

>>Why is it apparently necessary for certain MVPs to reply to the known

>>trolls in this newsgroup?

>>

>>I can understand some others but MVPs should know better, shouldn't

>>they?

>

>

> The majority of MVPs that post to this newsgroup are idiots, prima

> donna types and crybabies when they're not waiting in line to take

> turns kissing Microsoft ass.

>

David B.399685 Wrote:

> Uhm, there are no mods".

Ok, then maybe the super mods:

http://www.vistax64.com/members/brink.html

Every forum has 'mods' or moderators to curb this type of behavior.

 

 

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From my viewpoint the MVPs are largely trolls spreading misinformation about

the usability of Vista and peddling answers that do not solve the problems

many users have with Vista.

Same here...

If they insist on arguing with trolls, then they ought to add a word to the

subject, like "OT", so we could block them easier.

 

 

 

"XS11E" <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message

news:Xns997A8F28FEC77xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...

> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote:

>

>> I not only block trolls but I block those who perpetuate

>> discussions with them. It does help with the message traffic here

>> on a daily basis. -)

>

> I tend to agree but I'm reluctant to killfile certain MVPs who often

> give useful information but are among the worst offenders. I guess

> there's no other alternative...

>

>

> --

> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups

> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

I second that... the regular MVPs here are very low quality..

 

perhaps we must import some new ones... hehe

 

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:21:27 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com>

> wrote:

>

>>

>>Why is it apparently necessary for certain MVPs to reply to the known

>>trolls in this newsgroup?

>>

>>I can understand some others but MVPs should know better, shouldn't

>>they?

>

>

> The majority of MVPs that post to this newsgroup are idiots, prima

> donna types and crybabies when they're not waiting in line to take

> turns kissing Microsoft ass.

>

"Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote:

> Thank you for your intelligent helpful message.

> What a jerk.

 

Adam Albright is one of the reasons killfiles were invented and has

been in mine for a very long time.

 

I'm not critizing you personally, Gary, but you see what I'm getting

at?

 

If you'd killfiled him or resisted the temptation to reply to his

idiocy, most of us would have never seen his post and that's a GOOD

thing!

 

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> From my viewpoint the MVPs are largely trolls spreading misinformation

> about the usability of Vista and peddling answers that do not solve the

> problems many users have with Vista.

 

Those words should be etched on a plague of gold and mounted at Redmond!

I have not seen any good MVP's in here... they are trolls. In other

newsgroups there are some good ones...

Not many though...

 

You see, what kind of MVP would come here and throw propaganda about vista

being good?

 

So the good ones are not here because they know that vista is horrible!

Hello,

I think this is unfair if you say that so generally. MVPs are not different

from anybody other here, except from the fact that their input in the

communities is officially valuable. So they can be wrong or misinforming as

many times as everybody else.

Greetings,

P. Di Stolfo

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"babaloo" <fac187@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag

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> From my viewpoint the MVPs are largely trolls spreading misinformation

> about the usability of Vista and peddling answers that do not solve the

> problems many users have with Vista.

>

I agree and disagree in someway with everything said here, Yes it does feed

trolls vanity, if like Alias and Adam A they think they know it all, but

that is where I disagree with just leaving them alone because they mislead

and distract those that are here for real information.

 

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"XS11E" <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message

news:Xns997A8F28FEC77xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...

> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote:

>

>> I not only block trolls but I block those who perpetuate

>> discussions with them. It does help with the message traffic here

>> on a daily basis. -)

>

> I tend to agree but I'm reluctant to killfile certain MVPs who often

> give useful information but are among the worst offenders. I guess

> there's no other alternative...

>

>

> --

> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups

> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

>

This is a MS, NG and has not mods.

 

 

 

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"TeMerc" <TeMerc.2uedd6@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message

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>

> I have to say that being a recent member I find it alarming at the level

> of back and forth between these two groups.

>

> They seem to hijack many of the threads, leaving the actual OP and

> others to wade thru their muck mire.

>

> And if I may inquire, where are the Mods to take some action? These

> types of threads are exactly when they are needed.

>

> Trolls are inevitable, but to 'feed' them is, IMHO not wise.

>

> Lets see less of that and more excellence of replies, which this forum

> really has a great deal of to offer.

>

>

> --

> TeMerc

>

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>

Hello,

do you block messages because of the traffic? I let them all go in, but I

just ignore the messages with a subject that doesn't sound like needing

help.

 

Greetings,

P. Di Stolfo

 

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"Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag

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> Good point Richard.

>

> I also block Subject containing the word SPAM, for those who like to

> rename the Subject and add SPAM to it. :)

>

> Regards,

> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://bertk.mvps.org

> Member: http://dts-l.org

>

> Richard G. Harper wrote:

>> I not only block trolls but I block those who perpetuate discussions with

>> them. It does help with the message traffic here on a daily basis. -)

TeMerc wrote:

> David B.399685 Wrote:

>> Uhm, there are no mods".

> Ok, then maybe the super mods:

> http://www.vistax64.com/members/brink.html

> Every forum has 'mods' or moderators to curb this type of behavior.

 

This isn't a forum, it's a newsgroup and there are no mods, moderators,

super mods, or the like. SPAM is removed but not other posts.

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babaloo399711 Wrote:

> From my viewpoint the MVPs are largely trolls spreading misinformation

> about the usability of Vista and peddling answers that do not solve the

> problems many users have with Vista.

Can you please provide specific threads where this is evident? I'm not

saying MVPs are infallible, but what you say I have not experienced.

 

Based on what you say, I'd expect an entire Google search results with

dozens of pages.

 

And btw, I am also an MVP but have no qualms about posting inaccuracies

when I happen upon them, be they other MVPS or not.

 

My experience, and this goes back long before I ever became an MVP was

most times than not, the info provided was spot on.

 

There seems to be alot of anger toward MVPs in this forum, the likes of

which I've never encountered before.

 

 

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