Adam Albright wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:33:03 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>

>

>>Alias wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Frank wrote:

>

>

>>>>>Alias

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Dell is desperate!

>>>>Frank

>>>

>>>

>>>Not nearly as desperate as you are, willing to lie and insult people to

>>>make a point.

>>>

>>>Alias

>>

>>Dell being desperate is not an insult it's fact.

>>Stop your incessant lying!

>>Frank

>

>

> If it is a fact then you shouldn't have any trouble documenting why.

> Put your PROOF Dell is desperate right here Frankie =====>

>

>

 

Google it yourself you moron!

Frank

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:34:55 -0400, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> This article was commissioned by Mr Ubuntu, so it is hardly surprising that

> Dell did not want to commit to real figures. I thought that Ms Dell handled

> it very well.

>

> Feisty Fawn should be renamed Frumpy Friesian.. the download takes a longer

> time than getting Vista x86 and 64 combined, and the default install desktop

> is terrible, sporting two flavors of slurry brown.. Kubuntu looks better, as

> does PClinuxOS..

 

And what does the download speed have to do with anything? You have the

choice of downloading a CD or DVD image. Personally I generally just go

with a CD Image. If you are getting slow download speeds, choose a

different mirror.

 

I don't understand though what that has to do with OS? Is download speed

of the CD image from a 3rd party server now a measure for the quality of

an OS?

 

As far as the UI goes, Ubuntu actually does have some different color

themes than the standard brown. (Systems->Preference->Theme). At work I

also use a different theme via Beryl that I find more to my liking.

 

And then, as you so correctly stated, you have choice. You can run Kubuntu

instead and get the KDE environment, which you like..and I personally

don't like at all. Only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the User

Interface. I suspect PCLinuxOS probably uses KDE as well.

 

No one UI will every make everyone happy. There'll always be people who

like it and always be people who think it's the ugliest thing they have

ever seen.

 

But what do you do when you don't like Aero in Vista? You can choose

between Aero, Aero, Aero, Aero, Aero or Aero. And if you don't like Aero,

you can pick Aero.

>

> Open Office is ok, but is very reminiscent of WP 5.2 for Windows or MS 2.0

> for Windows. It is free of course, but the price is an 'old' look and not

> quite all of the features

 

True, it doesn't have a fancy little ribbon and someone who is heavy into

publishing and does lots of word processing might miss some features

present in MS Office. Also someone that does heavy work with Excel might

miss some features present in MS Office. Access is a disaster that

shouldn't even exist so I won't go into that. The atrocities I've seen

committed in companies with Access are just unspeakable.

 

But honestly, for the average home user and standard every day office use,

I think Open Office is perfectly fine. It's perfectly capable of doing

standard run of the mill spreadsheets. It's perfectly capable of letting

the secretary write the latest company memo. It's perfectly capable of

letting the average student write their latest presentation, paper, etc.

>

> 25,000 apps? Even Beryl will have problems displaying that many.. lol.. most

> of the home computers I see have only 5 apps and that includes Calculator,

> Address Book and Notepad

 

25,000 apps actually is misleading and I don't get why people like Alias

go around screaming that number at the top of their lungs. 25,000

packages, maybe. The number is actually closer to 21,396 as my package

manager currently reports. And a package isn't necessarily an app.

 

A package can be:

 

- Language pack for an application

 

- Shared Library (DLL equivalent of windows)

 

- Additional content for an application

 

- Meta package that allows for easy auto selection of the correct packages

for a given application (for instance, the linux-generic meta package

always ensures the latest kernel packages are installed without the user

having to care what those packages actually are)

 

- Help files / documentation

 

- Development files, source code

 

- Debug files

 

- And more...

 

There are applications out there, such as my development environment

Eclipse, that consist of over 200 packages that make up that application.

 

There is one meta package for Eclipse and installing that will then

install all other appropriate packages, that way one does not need to know

what all needs to be installed.

 

Works very well really.

>

> MS does like competition because the competition makes MS products look

> good. Linux is its own worst enemy and always has been. There are too many

> players and little cohesion between them. Remember back to the early days

> before the PC, all of the different manufacturers all doing their own

> thing?

 

Don't know. MS looked pretty bad when Vista won't even recognize the core

components of my system correctly such as sound and video and Microsoft's

own keyboard. Ubuntu on the other hand recognizes everything correctly out

of the box except for my video card. The current beta version

recognizes everything, video card included. All my hardware is very up to

date high end hardware from major manufactures. Nothing weird or exotic.

 

So I don't know, I can't say that me having to go around hunting on the

web for beta drivers to make my hardware work under Vista makes Microsoft

look all that great in my eyes. I mean it's running reasonably now, but it

took quite a bit of effort. I simply would expect better from a company

such as MS.

>

> Linux in commerce is a very different ballpark. One would expect it to

> do well as UNIX always was essentially the OS of choice, but the

> criteria are very different.

>

> Desktop Linux has a long way to go, and I have a feeling that it will

> eventually follow the path of MS and Windows, where one type will break

> away from the rest of the pack. The development of such a flavor will

> require payment, and it will have to lose the lunatic fringe supporters

> who presently make ridiculous claims for it.

>

 

One thing, and I think that's another misconception out there, is that a

lot of people don't use Linux because it's free. Sure there are people who

do, but plenty also simply use it, such as myself, because in many

respects it outperforms windows and is less of a headache. I'd much rather

pay for Ubuntu than I'd ever pay for Windows. And honestly, there are

things I can do under Ubuntu that I simply *cannot* do under windows, or

at the very least not without the help of a dozen 3rd party programs. At

the same time, there are currently also things I still need Windows for,

but that's largely just due 3rd party software I need which is windows

only. Only reason I honestly keep windows around, and luckily it's not

stuff I need very often.

 

Besides, there already are versions that require payment. Redhat is one

and it does perfectly fine.

 

Also, Ubuntu does perfectly fine on the Desktop, especially if it

comes pre-configured. I say all the time, and I say it again, most

peopel don't install and configure operating Systems. The work I went to in

order to get Vista running correctly on this computer would be just as

much beyond most people than it would be to configure linux. There's no

difference in that regard.

 

Co-worker of mine is happily running Ubuntu. He doesn't ever want to see

windows again. He's never been happier with his machine. It's stable,

fast, and meets every single one of his needs. I configured it for him of

course as he has absolutely zero technical knowledge. But once it's

configured....all he has to do is point and click which he does happily

all day long with zero problems.

 

I'll agree that Ubuntu or any other Linux distro may not always that easy

to set up for a novice or beginner. But once it's configured and properly

set up? No issues.

> For free, it is good, but free isn't quite everything.. as always, those

> who can afford to pay for the best invariably get a better product,

> whether it be an OS, washing machine or car.

 

No but paying money isn't quite everything either. I think that Windows is

starting to become obscenely expensive. I mean if you want a version that

can actually *do* something and isn't crippled and stripped down, such as

Ultimate, the price tag is quite steep.

 

Just because something is more expensive, doesn't necessarily make it

better. It just makes it more expensive.

 

--

Stephan

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Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> HeyBub wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Tell that to Dell:

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> It's a money-maker. Linux on a Dell costs $225 more.

>>>>

>>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/07/10/2354207.shtml

>>>>

>>>

>>> Regardless, the fact that Dell, HP, nVidia and others are throwing

>>> their hat into the Ubuntu ring is a sign of the times.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> They're in deep dudu and it's a desperate market move that so far, has

>> done nothing to help their sales.

>> Get use to it. Linux is losing market share every month to Vista.

>> I know that fact irritates the hell out of you but with you're

>> arrogant attitude you deserve it.

>> That's the life of a linux troll (you).

>> Loser!

>> Frank

>

>

> What a liar you are, Frankie Boy. Linux is gaining market and you can't

> prove otherwise.

>

> Alias

 

We've already proved and posted that fact numerous times.

Remember?

Oh, you can't handle the truth can you?

I forgot.

You're got a real problem with the truth.

Frank

Well, he is brain dead and a complete moron. That's why Ubuntu hired him as

THEIR Marketing Department :-)

 

 

"Frank" <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote in message

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> Alias wrote:

>

>

>>

>>

>> They'd have to know about it first. Hence, the need for this public

>> service.

>>

> What a fool you are! I'm amazed at just often you chose to make that

> foolishly stupid statement.

> Are you brain dead or what?

> You must be or else you're a complete moron.

> Frank

>

Open Source may be the future. Say 2065! Get ready, start holding your

breath!

 

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

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> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>> If nVidia and HP had any sense, they would pull the plug on the Linux

>> drivers. That may piss off say, 100 people!

>

> But they aren't and the reason they are doing it is because Open Source is

> the future. Windows is the past.

>

> Alias

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>> news:%23hL$9rG0HHA.6072@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Gary wrote:

>>>> Yawn, same old store Linux loonies have been saying for years and

>>>> years. Some things never change.

>>> nVidia and HP have NOT been providing Linux drivers for years.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>>>> news:eyiThzE0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Ian Betts wrote:

>>>>>> Dell is OK but you best go back to 1981.

>>>>>>

>>>>> Another Wintard top poster who has a sig that most newsreaders snip

>>>>> along with the rest of the post.

>>>>>

>>>>> You must have a learning disability because my example is spot on. Go

>>>>> back to my post and reread it. Just because MS is number one today

>>>>> doesn't mean it will be so tomorrow and the intrusive features of

>>>>> Vista will help Ubuntu and hurt MS. Period.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>

Again, Linux is gaining market share. That is true. By the year 2065, they

will have an extra 3,500 users!

 

 

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

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> Frank wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> HeyBub wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Tell that to Dell:

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> It's a money-maker. Linux on a Dell costs $225 more.

>>>>

>>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/07/10/2354207.shtml

>>>>

>>>

>>> Regardless, the fact that Dell, HP, nVidia and others are throwing their

>>> hat into the Ubuntu ring is a sign of the times.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> They're in deep dudu and it's a desperate market move that so far, has

>> done nothing to help their sales.

>> Get use to it. Linux is losing market share every month to Vista.

>> I know that fact irritates the hell out of you but with you're arrogant

>> attitude you deserve it.

>> That's the life of a linux troll (you).

>> Loser!

>> Frank

>

> What a liar you are, Frankie Boy. Linux is gaining market and you can't

> prove otherwise.

>

> Alias

Alias wrote:

 

>

>

> But they aren't and the reason they are doing it is because Open Source

> is the future. Windows is the past.

>

> Alias

>

>

And you're one sick, delusion jerk.

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Adam Albright wrote:

>

>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:33:03 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>>

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Dell is desperate!

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Not nearly as desperate as you are, willing to lie and insult people

>>>> to make a point.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> Dell being desperate is not an insult it's fact.

>>> Stop your incessant lying!

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> If it is a fact then you shouldn't have any trouble documenting why.

>> Put your PROOF Dell is desperate right here Frankie =====>

>>

>>

>

> Google it yourself you moron!

> Frank

 

Translation: Frank can't back up his assertion as usual.

 

Alias

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> HeyBub wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Tell that to Dell:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> It's a money-maker. Linux on a Dell costs $225 more.

>>>>>

>>>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/07/10/2354207.shtml

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Regardless, the fact that Dell, HP, nVidia and others are throwing

>>>> their hat into the Ubuntu ring is a sign of the times.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>>

>>> They're in deep dudu and it's a desperate market move that so far,

>>> has done nothing to help their sales.

>>> Get use to it. Linux is losing market share every month to Vista.

>>> I know that fact irritates the hell out of you but with you're

>>> arrogant attitude you deserve it.

>>> That's the life of a linux troll (you).

>>> Loser!

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> What a liar you are, Frankie Boy. Linux is gaining market and you

>> can't prove otherwise.

>>

>> Alias

>

> We've already proved and posted that fact numerous times.

 

No you didn't.

> Remember?

 

How can I remember something that never happened?

> Oh, you can't handle the truth can you?

> I forgot.

> You're got a real problem with the truth.

> Frank

 

The truth is that Vista is the past and Ubuntu is the future. Live with it.

 

Alias

Yes, Vista will be the past in 4-6 years. Ubuntu will be the past each and

every 6 months because they keep putting out major fixes because they can't

get it right.

 

 

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

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> Frank wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> HeyBub wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Tell that to Dell:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It's a money-maker. Linux on a Dell costs $225 more.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/07/10/2354207.shtml

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Regardless, the fact that Dell, HP, nVidia and others are throwing

>>>>> their hat into the Ubuntu ring is a sign of the times.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> They're in deep dudu and it's a desperate market move that so far, has

>>>> done nothing to help their sales.

>>>> Get use to it. Linux is losing market share every month to Vista.

>>>> I know that fact irritates the hell out of you but with you're arrogant

>>>> attitude you deserve it.

>>>> That's the life of a linux troll (you).

>>>> Loser!

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>>

>>> What a liar you are, Frankie Boy. Linux is gaining market and you can't

>>> prove otherwise.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> We've already proved and posted that fact numerous times.

>

> No you didn't.

>

>> Remember?

>

> How can I remember something that never happened?

>

>> Oh, you can't handle the truth can you?

>> I forgot.

>> You're got a real problem with the truth.

>> Frank

>

> The truth is that Vista is the past and Ubuntu is the future. Live with

> it.

>

> Alias

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:33:03 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dell is desperate!

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Not nearly as desperate as you are, willing to lie and insult

>>>>> people to make a point.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Dell being desperate is not an insult it's fact.

>>>> Stop your incessant lying!

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> If it is a fact then you shouldn't have any trouble documenting why.

>>> Put your PROOF Dell is desperate right here Frankie =====>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> Google it yourself you moron!

>> Frank

>

>

> Translation: Frank can't back up his assertion as usual.

>

> Alias

 

Translation: alias can't google and can't (conveniently) remember that

links to market data have recently been posted.

Grow up you idiot!

Frank

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:39:15 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Alias wrote:

>> I have an HP printer and scanner control panel included with Ubuntu. Do

>> you think that HP and nVidia are trying to cut costs by providing

>> drivers for Ubuntu? Or, better yet, do you even think before you post?

>>

>> Alias

>>

>Stop lying an insulting people who know more than you do, ok?

>That's seems to be all you're capable of lately as the statistical data

>shows linux losing ground every month to Vista. Live with it. Liunx is

>going nowhere! Your trolling is having the opposite effect and is

>driving people away. You're a horrible marketer and ubuntu should fire

>your sorry ares immediately! You're doing more harm than good.

>Frank

 

Meanwhile our resident nut case Frankie thinks his non stop ranting

and screaming helps Microsoft sell more copies of Vista.

 

ROTFLMAO!

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> Yes, Vista will be the past in 4-6 years. Ubuntu will be the past each and

> every 6 months because they keep putting out major fixes because they can't

> get it right.

 

All OSes go through evolution, even Windows. Some are slower than others -)

 

Alias

>

>

> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

> news:ueKYUDH0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Frank wrote:

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> HeyBub wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Tell that to Dell:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> It's a money-maker. Linux on a Dell costs $225 more.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/07/10/2354207.shtml

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Regardless, the fact that Dell, HP, nVidia and others are throwing

>>>>>> their hat into the Ubuntu ring is a sign of the times.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>> They're in deep dudu and it's a desperate market move that so far, has

>>>>> done nothing to help their sales.

>>>>> Get use to it. Linux is losing market share every month to Vista.

>>>>> I know that fact irritates the hell out of you but with you're arrogant

>>>>> attitude you deserve it.

>>>>> That's the life of a linux troll (you).

>>>>> Loser!

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>> What a liar you are, Frankie Boy. Linux is gaining market and you can't

>>>> prove otherwise.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>> We've already proved and posted that fact numerous times.

>> No you didn't.

>>

>>> Remember?

>> How can I remember something that never happened?

>>

>>> Oh, you can't handle the truth can you?

>>> I forgot.

>>> You're got a real problem with the truth.

>>> Frank

>> The truth is that Vista is the past and Ubuntu is the future. Live with

>> it.

>>

>> Alias

>

>

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:36:57 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>

>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:36:28 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>Ian Betts wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need

>>>>>all they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and

>>>>>Ubuntu goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me

>>>>>wrong I like Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but for

>>>>>you to use it as your promotion is laughable.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>The fact that Dell is selling Ubuntu computers and nVidia is now

>>>>including Linux drivers with the graphics cards doesn't tell you something?

>>>>

>>>>Alias

>>>

>>>Dell is desperate!

>>>Frank

>>

>>

>> Another of you astute observations, right Frank?

>>

>> Michael Dell CEO of Dell, whom I have met a couple times may be a lot

>> of things, desperate isn't one of them. Dell by and large is a well

>> run corporation that made Michael a billionaire many times over.

>>

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dell

>>

>

>And the point of your stupidly bragging post is...?

>You can't admit that Dell is losing market share and that trying to

>increase share involves widening your product line?

>Those of us in marketing know that's always a sign of desperation

>brought about by losing market share.

>Frank

 

You don't know sh*t about Marketing. Who in the hell do you think you

are fooling?

 

Reality check: Frankie claims he runs a "marketing" company yet admits

he runs it from his kitchen table at home and further admits he

doesn't have any web site to promote his "business".

 

ROTFLMAO!

Your should talk. Have you seen those Red Blue and Green dots yet?

 

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

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>

> Meanwhile our resident nut case Frankie thinks his non stop ranting

> and screaming helps Microsoft sell more copies of Vista.

>

> ROTFLMAO!

>

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:39:15 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>

>>> I have an HP printer and scanner control panel included with Ubuntu. Do

>>> you think that HP and nVidia are trying to cut costs by providing

>>> drivers for Ubuntu? Or, better yet, do you even think before you post?

>>>

>>> Alias

>>>

>> Stop lying an insulting people who know more than you do, ok?

>> That's seems to be all you're capable of lately as the statistical data

>> shows linux losing ground every month to Vista. Live with it. Liunx is

>> going nowhere! Your trolling is having the opposite effect and is

>> driving people away. You're a horrible marketer and ubuntu should fire

>> your sorry ares immediately! You're doing more harm than good.

>> Frank

>

> Meanwhile our resident nut case Frankie thinks his non stop ranting

> and screaming helps Microsoft sell more copies of Vista.

>

> ROTFLMAO!

>

 

I think most reasonable people know that users and OSes are not the same

thing. Some ill informed individuals like Frank think I AM Ubuntu, not

just a common mortal, prone to making mistakes that happens to be happy

with it after suffering with Windows since 92.

 

I wouldn't judge Vista by Frank's inanities. He's human and can only be

the way he is.

 

What really gets to the Vista fanboys is they *know* they will get

_nowhere_ extolling Vista in a Linux forum and the also *know* that

Vista is irritating users BIG TIME and the time is ripe for Linux. This

explains the vile and puerile posts by those Vista Wintards that have

their buttons pushed with the mere mention of Linux. For crying out

loud, sometimes I think Frank is going to have a stroke and I worry

about him!

 

Alias

WOW! that's almost one copy in every city in Spain. Keep up the good work

Alias.

 

 

"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message

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> Again, Linux is gaining market share. That is true. By the year 2065,

> they will have an extra 3,500 users!

>

>

HA- You ARE Ubuntu not a common mortal but a whining, preaching, noise

making, annoying mortal at that! Yes, it is better for you to be in the

"prone" position because that's how you get paid by the Ubuntu community,

Just FYI :-)

 

You've been suffering with Windows since 92, probably takes you that long to

read the manual. We've been suffering with you for eternity it seems !

 

You - Just another Lin-tard spewing your gospel to anyone who will listen,

but your audience is just like Ubuntu- Less than 2% !

 

No go out in the streets looking for Euros from the tourists, because you

need to show income with your "Two businesses" (Yea, right!)

 

 

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

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> Adam Albright wrote:

>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:39:15 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>>> I have an HP printer and scanner control panel included with Ubuntu. Do

>>>> you think that HP and nVidia are trying to cut costs by providing

>>>> drivers for Ubuntu? Or, better yet, do you even think before you post?

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>> Stop lying an insulting people who know more than you do, ok?

>>> That's seems to be all you're capable of lately as the statistical data

>>> shows linux losing ground every month to Vista. Live with it. Liunx is

>>> going nowhere! Your trolling is having the opposite effect and is

>>> driving people away. You're a horrible marketer and ubuntu should fire

>>> your sorry ares immediately! You're doing more harm than good.

>>> Frank

>>

>> Meanwhile our resident nut case Frankie thinks his non stop ranting

>> and screaming helps Microsoft sell more copies of Vista.

>>

>> ROTFLMAO!

>>

>

> I think most reasonable people know that users and OSes are not the same

> thing. Some ill informed individuals like Frank think I AM Ubuntu, not

> just a common mortal, prone to making mistakes that happens to be happy

> with it after suffering with Windows since 92.

>

> I wouldn't judge Vista by Frank's inanities. He's human and can only be

> the way he is.

>

> What really gets to the Vista fanboys is they *know* they will get

> _nowhere_ extolling Vista in a Linux forum and the also *know* that Vista

> is irritating users BIG TIME and the time is ripe for Linux. This explains

> the vile and puerile posts by those Vista Wintards that have their buttons

> pushed with the mere mention of Linux. For crying out loud, sometimes I

> think Frank is going to have a stroke and I worry about him!

>

> Alias

Adam Albright wrote:

 

-------------drunken lies deleted------------

 

Hey fool...hahahaha...lol!

Frank

Alias wrote:

 

>>> The truth is that Vista is the past and Ubuntu is the future. Live

>>> with it.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>>

 

You got that one right! Let's see...1992...for linux..and still trying

to get it right?

Is that correct?

Frank

Unix was around in the early 80's and look at them now :-)

Linux was around in the early 90's and look at them now "-)

 

Better take a quick look or you will miss it

 

Enuf Said.

 

 

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

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> Telstar wrote:

>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Tell that to Dell:

>>>

>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.

>>

>>

>

> In 1981, IBM was the only game in town with Tandy and Apple way behind. MS

> was nowhere to be found and look at them now.

>

> Alias

>

Spanky deMonkey wrote:

> Unix was around in the early 80's and look at them now :-)

 

Still around.

> Linux was around in the early 90's and look at them now "-)

 

Getting better and better.

>

> Better take a quick look or you will miss it

>

> Enuf Said.

 

Time will tell.

 

Alias

>

>

> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

> news:%23smf3bD0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Telstar wrote:

>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>>> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> Tell that to Dell:

>>>>

>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.

>>>

>>>

>> In 1981, IBM was the only game in town with Tandy and Apple way behind. MS

>> was nowhere to be found and look at them now.

>>

>> Alias

>>

>

>

Be careful with that Genuine Ubuntu statement. Pretty soon you will need to

activate it under the "Ubuntu Loser Advantage" program.

 

 

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

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> here@home.again wrote:

>> "Alias" asked...

>>> The fact that Dell is selling Ubuntu computers and nVidia is now

>>> including Linux drivers with the graphics cards doesn't tell you

>>> something?

>>>

>>

>> I tells me

>

> You tell yourself?

>

>> that price wars and other sales figures have Dell desperately trying to

>> cut costs any way they can. -)

>

> And nVidia? HP? Dell isn't the only pc maker including a Genuine Ubuntu OS

> with their computers. The computer chains here have been doing it for

> years.

>

> I have an HP printer and scanner control panel included with Ubuntu. Do

> you think that HP and nVidia are trying to cut costs by providing drivers

> for Ubuntu? Or, better yet, do you even think before you post?

>

> Alias

>

Alias wrote:

>>> In 1981, IBM was the only game in town with Tandy and Apple way

>>> behind. MS was nowhere to be found and look at them now.

>>>

>>> Alias

 

Microsoft was not "nowhere to be found" in 1981. They were already

well established by then. They had the dominate BASIC interpreters on

TRS-80s, Apples and others. Microsoft BASIC was *the* BASIC to have on

computers at the time. They had many other languages also - BASIC

compilers, COBOL compilers, FORTRAN, Assemblers, etc. Why do you think

IBM went to MS in the first (actually 2nd) place? Digital Research

(CP/M) was not interested, so there was no one else to turn to.

 

For you to claim that MS was "nowhere to be found" simply proves that

you are indeed what you appear to be - a clueless kid who was not around

at that time.

 

Mike

Re: Ubuntu Not Ready for the Desktop! It's not a question, it'sa statement of fact.

 

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> This article was commissioned by Mr Ubuntu, so it is hardly surprising

> that Dell did not want to commit to real figures. I thought that Ms Dell

> handled it very well.

>

> Feisty Fawn should be renamed Frumpy Friesian.. the download takes a

> longer time than getting Vista x86 and 64 combined, and the default

> install desktop is terrible, sporting two flavors of slurry brown..

> Kubuntu looks better, as does PClinuxOS..

 

Well stated. Ubuntu does indeed look literally like crap. PCLinuxOS

is much better looking. I'm posting from it right now, running in

VMWare under Vista of course!

 

Mike