Tell that to Dell:

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

 

Alias

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Tell that to Dell:

>

> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>

> Alias

 

The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.

Telstar wrote:

> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Tell that to Dell:

>>

>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>

>> Alias

>

> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.

>

>

 

Most people are resistant to change until it becomes the "in thing".

 

Alias

Telstar wrote:

> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Tell that to Dell:

>>

>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>

>> Alias

>

> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.

>

>

 

In 1981, IBM was the only game in town with Tandy and Apple way behind.

MS was nowhere to be found and look at them now.

 

Alias

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:00:57 -0700, Telstar wrote:

> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Tell that to Dell:

>>

>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>

>> Alias

>

> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.

 

And you got this 2% figure from where exactly?

 

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"Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@screwspammers.com> wrote in message

news:JPqdnR63Ra4mWjTbnZ2dnUVZ8tjinZ2d@giganews.com...

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:00:57 -0700, Telstar wrote:

>

>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Tell that to Dell:

>>>

>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.

>

> And you got this 2% figure from where exactly?

 

His ass of course.

 

Mike

Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need all they

can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and Ubuntu goes down

well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me wrong I like Ubuntu and

use it and like Dell and its computers but for you to use it as your

promotion is laughable.

 

--

Ian

 

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

news:#R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Tell that to Dell:

>

> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>

> Alias

>

Dell is OK but you best go back to 1981.

 

--

Ian

 

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

news:#smf3bD0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Telstar wrote:

>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Tell that to Dell:

>>>

>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.

>>

>>

>

> In 1981, IBM was the only game in town with Tandy and Apple way behind. MS

> was nowhere to be found and look at them now.

>

> Alias

"Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message

news:1F5584D7-E348-4F30-A92B-BE787EA000E6@microsoft.com...

> Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need all

> they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and Ubuntu

> goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me wrong I like

> Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but for you to use it as

> your promotion is laughable.

 

He's obviously being paid by Ubuntu to troll MS newsgroups.

 

Mike

Ian Betts wrote:

> Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need all

> they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and Ubuntu

> goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me wrong I

> like Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but for you to

> use it as your promotion is laughable.

>

 

The fact that Dell is selling Ubuntu computers and nVidia is now

including Linux drivers with the graphics cards doesn't tell you something?

 

Alias

Mike wrote:

> "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message

> news:1F5584D7-E348-4F30-A92B-BE787EA000E6@microsoft.com...

>> Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need

>> all they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and

>> Ubuntu goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me

>> wrong I like Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but for

>> you to use it as your promotion is laughable.

>

> He's obviously being paid by Ubuntu to troll MS newsgroups.

>

> Mike

>

 

Baseless lie.

 

Alias

Did you think that 2% was a little optimistic too? Had it been any kind of

real success, Dell would have published figures.. of course, Dell have been

here before, haven't they.. :-)

 

 

"Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@screwspammers.com> wrote in message

news:JPqdnR63Ra4mWjTbnZ2dnUVZ8tjinZ2d@giganews.com...

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:00:57 -0700, Telstar wrote:

>

>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Tell that to Dell:

>>>

>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.

>

> And you got this 2% figure from where exactly?

>

> --

> Stephan

> 2003 Yamaha R6

>

> å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯

> å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

 

--

 

 

Mike Hall

MS MVP Windows Shell/User

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 06:52:49 -0400, Mike wrote:

> "Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@screwspammers.com> wrote in message

> news:JPqdnR63Ra4mWjTbnZ2dnUVZ8tjinZ2d@giganews.com...

>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:00:57 -0700, Telstar wrote:

>>

>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>>> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> Tell that to Dell:

>>>>

>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.

>>

>> And you got this 2% figure from where exactly?

>

> His ass of course.

 

I knew something smelled funny. That explains it.

 

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"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message news:eOFc9HE0HHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Did you think that 2% was a little optimistic too? Had it been any kind of

> real success, Dell would have published figures.. of course, Dell have been

> here before, haven't they.. :-)

>

>

> "Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@screwspammers.com> wrote in message

> news:JPqdnR63Ra4mWjTbnZ2dnUVZ8tjinZ2d@giganews.com...

>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:00:57 -0700, Telstar wrote:

>>

>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>>> news:%23R0NBMD0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> Tell that to Dell:

>>>>

>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> The sales projections were 2%. Very impressive. Most impressive.

>>

>> And you got this 2% figure from where exactly?

>>

>> --

>> Stephan

>> 2003 Yamaha R6

>>

>> å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯

>> å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

>

> --

>

>

> Mike Hall

> MS MVP Windows Shell/User

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

>

>

>

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:33:20 -0400, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> Did you think that 2% was a little optimistic too? Had it been any kind of

> real success, Dell would have published figures.. of course, Dell have been

> here before, haven't they.. :-)

 

Haha, nice one.

 

What I think that matters more than any percentages is that they are

working on adding more systems with it. That basically means that whatever

percentage they are currently seeing, they are happy with and consider it

worth their time to expand their offerings.

 

Which is good, Microsoft could use some competition, even if they

probably wouldn't agree with that. =)

 

Ultimately it's us, the consumers, who benefit from competition as it

leads to better products.

 

--

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Ian Betts wrote:

> Dell is OK but you best go back to 1981.

>

 

Another Wintard top poster who has a sig that most newsreaders snip

along with the rest of the post.

 

You must have a learning disability because my example is spot on. Go

back to my post and reread it. Just because MS is number one today

doesn't mean it will be so tomorrow and the intrusive features of Vista

will help Ubuntu and hurt MS. Period.

 

Alias

This article was commissioned by Mr Ubuntu, so it is hardly surprising that

Dell did not want to commit to real figures. I thought that Ms Dell handled

it very well.

 

Feisty Fawn should be renamed Frumpy Friesian.. the download takes a longer

time than getting Vista x86 and 64 combined, and the default install desktop

is terrible, sporting two flavors of slurry brown.. Kubuntu looks better, as

does PClinuxOS..

 

Open Office is ok, but is very reminiscent of WP 5.2 for Windows or MS 2.0

for Windows. It is free of course, but the price is an 'old' look and not

quite all of the features

 

25,000 apps? Even Beryl will have problems displaying that many.. lol.. most

of the home computers I see have only 5 apps and that includes Calculator,

Address Book and Notepad

 

MS does like competition because the competition makes MS products look

good. Linux is its own worst enemy and always has been. There are too many

players and little cohesion between them. Remember back to the early days

before the PC, all of the different manufacturers all doing their own thing?

 

Linux in commerce is a very different ballpark. One would expect it to do

well as UNIX always was essentially the OS of choice, but the criteria are

very different.

 

Desktop Linux has a long way to go, and I have a feeling that it will

eventually follow the path of MS and Windows, where one type will break away

from the rest of the pack. The development of such a flavor will require

payment, and it will have to lose the lunatic fringe supporters who

presently make ridiculous claims for it.

 

For free, it is good, but free isn't quite everything.. as always, those who

can afford to pay for the best invariably get a better product, whether it

be an OS, washing machine or car.

 

"Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@screwspammers.com> wrote in message

news:JPqdnRi3Ra7HeDTbnZ2dnUVZ8tjinZ2d@giganews.com...

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:33:20 -0400, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>> Did you think that 2% was a little optimistic too? Had it been any kind

>> of

>> real success, Dell would have published figures.. of course, Dell have

>> been

>> here before, haven't they.. :-)

>

> Haha, nice one.

>

> What I think that matters more than any percentages is that they are

> working on adding more systems with it. That basically means that whatever

> percentage they are currently seeing, they are happy with and consider it

> worth their time to expand their offerings.

>

> Which is good, Microsoft could use some competition, even if they

> probably wouldn't agree with that. =)

>

> Ultimately it's us, the consumers, who benefit from competition as it

> leads to better products.

>

> --

> Stephan

> 2003 Yamaha R6

>

> å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯

> å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

 

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Mike Hall

MS MVP Windows Shell/User

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

Alias wrote:

> Mike wrote:

>

>> "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message

>> news:1F5584D7-E348-4F30-A92B-BE787EA000E6@microsoft.com...

>>

>>> Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need

>>> all they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and

>>> Ubuntu goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me

>>> wrong I like Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but

>>> for you to use it as your promotion is laughable.

>>

>>

>> He's obviously being paid by Ubuntu to troll MS newsgroups.

>>

>> Mike

>>

>

> Baseless lie.

>

> Alias

 

Awful truth!

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Ian Betts wrote:

>

>> Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need

>> all they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and

>> Ubuntu goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me

>> wrong I like Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but for

>> you to use it as your promotion is laughable.

>>

>

> The fact that Dell is selling Ubuntu computers and nVidia is now

> including Linux drivers with the graphics cards doesn't tell you something?

>

> Alias

 

Dell is desperate!

Frank

"Alias" asked...

> The fact that Dell is selling Ubuntu computers and nVidia is now including

> Linux drivers with the graphics cards doesn't tell you something?

>

 

I tells me that price wars and other sales figures have Dell desperately

trying to cut costs any way they can. -)

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Mike wrote:

>>

>>> "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message

>>> news:1F5584D7-E348-4F30-A92B-BE787EA000E6@microsoft.com...

>>>

>>>> Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need

>>>> all they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and

>>>> Ubuntu goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me

>>>> wrong I like Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but

>>>> for you to use it as your promotion is laughable.

>>>

>>>

>>> He's obviously being paid by Ubuntu to troll MS newsgroups.

>>>

>>> Mike

>>>

>>

>> Baseless lie.

>>

>> Alias

>

> Awful truth!

> Frank

 

Another baseless lie. You just can't stand the fact that people can be

happy with Ubuntu and that Vista users are pulling their hair out, can you?

 

Alias

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Ian Betts wrote:

>>

>>> Tell what to Dell. Dell are struggling for sales in Europe and need

>>> all they can get in the Third World and beyond. Linux is cheaper and

>>> Ubuntu goes down well with the natives. Its not secret. Don't get me

>>> wrong I like Ubuntu and use it and like Dell and its computers but

>>> for you to use it as your promotion is laughable.

>>>

>>

>> The fact that Dell is selling Ubuntu computers and nVidia is now

>> including Linux drivers with the graphics cards doesn't tell you

>> something?

>>

>> Alias

>

> Dell is desperate!

> Frank

 

Not nearly as desperate as you are, willing to lie and insult people to

make a point.

 

Alias

here@home.again wrote:

> "Alias" asked...

>> The fact that Dell is selling Ubuntu computers and nVidia is now including

>> Linux drivers with the graphics cards doesn't tell you something?

>>

>

> I tells me

 

You tell yourself?

> that price wars and other sales figures have Dell desperately

> trying to cut costs any way they can. -)

>

>

 

And nVidia? HP? Dell isn't the only pc maker including a Genuine Ubuntu

OS with their computers. The computer chains here have been doing it for

years.

 

I have an HP printer and scanner control panel included with Ubuntu. Do

you think that HP and nVidia are trying to cut costs by providing

drivers for Ubuntu? Or, better yet, do you even think before you post?

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

> Tell that to Dell:

>

> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>

> Alias

 

It's a money-maker. Linux on a Dell costs $225 more.

 

http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/07/10/2354207.shtml

HeyBub wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Tell that to Dell:

>>

>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135136-c,linux/article.html

>>

>> Alias

>

> It's a money-maker. Linux on a Dell costs $225 more.

 

Only if you want Dell to upgrade the hardware and Dell is in business to

make money, yes?

>

> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/07/10/2354207.shtml

>

>

 

And nVidia and HP providing drivers makes them how much money? There is

a computer chain here that will sell you a desktop with Ubuntu for less

than with Vista.

 

Alias