Alias wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 06:30:30 -0400, Leythos wrote:

>

>> In article <g55de6$mqi$3@aioe.org>, fbis@troll.grade.sch says...

>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:10:23 -0700, fb wrote:

>>>

>>>>> Get Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>> Good advice, Frank.

>>>>

>>>> ---------------------

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Exactly! Now try taking it loser!

>>> Sorry, but now you're a Johnny come lately. I installed Ubuntu and have

>>> been using it now for two years and I'm quite happy with it. I got it

>>> from http://www.ubuntu.com

>> Your being "Happy" with Ubuntu with your limited scope of experience

>> does not make Ubuntu a better operating system for others.

>>

>> Your blanket claim that Ubuntu is "Ubuntu is available for free and is a

>> far superior operating system." is only valid in your experience.

>>

>> Most people will be disappointed with Ubuntu.

>

> This is your opinion. I have mine. Others have theirs. Unlike you, I

> think people should make up their minds themselves as to what they like

> or dislike. I also like Macs and XP. My first computer was a Mac back in

> 1984.

>

> Alias

 

The latest gtk updates fixed the disappearing title bar bug.

Just FYI.

Make sure your customers install those updates.

No need to restart the PC, just restart Xserver.

Ctrl Alt Backspace....FYI again.

On Jul 10, 11:29 am, -*Alias** <aka@masked&anonymous.ar> wrote:

> TBerk wrote:

> > If you're not in an office but rather at home (on the Internet) would

> > there be a reason to spend more for 'Vista Ultimate'?

>

> > TBerk

>

> Why would anyone buy Vista *anything* when Ubuntu is available for free

> and is a far superior operating system. Check it out atwww.ubuntu.com

>

> Alias

 

My Thoughts Precisely

 

I started using Ubuntu about two months ago, and now use it almost

exclusively

- even though I have XP on the other partition

On Jul 10, 11:36 am, "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfri...@nospamgmail.com>

wrote:

> It all depends on your personal computing needs.

> See the following comparisons:http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/defau...

>

> --

> Carey Frisch

> Microsoft MVP

> Windows Desktop Experience -

> Windows Vista Enthusiast

>

> ---------------------------------------------------------------

>

> "TBerk" <bayareab...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:8aca7b74-833f-45a3-88a0-bf29900bbd44@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>

> If you're not in an office but rather at home (on the Internet) would

> there be a reason to spend more for 'Vista Ultimate'?

>

> TBerk

 

None of these Vista sites have a Ubuntu Chart for comparison.

<cheley_bonstell88@live.com> wrote in message

news:155afc9e-e440-45dc-9421-7d71187763e3@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...

> On Jul 10, 11:36 am, "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfri...@nospamgmail.com>

> wrote:

>> It all depends on your personal computing needs.

>> See the following

>> comparisons:http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/defau...

>>

>> --

>> Carey Frisch

>> Microsoft MVP

>> Windows Desktop Experience -

>> Windows Vista Enthusiast

>>

>> ---------------------------------------------------------------

>>

>> "TBerk" <bayareab...@yahoo.com> wrote in

>> messagenews:8aca7b74-833f-45a3-88a0-bf29900bbd44@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>>

>> If you're not in an office but rather at home (on the Internet) would

>> there be a reason to spend more for 'Vista Ultimate'?

>>

>> TBerk

>

> None of these Vista sites have a Ubuntu Chart for comparison.

>

 

 

That is because they are comparing VISTA editions..

 

 

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cheley_bonstell88@live.com wrote:

> On Jul 10, 11:29 am, -*Alias** <aka@masked&anonymous.ar> wrote:

>

>>TBerk wrote:

>>

>>>If you're not in an office but rather at home (on the Internet) would

>>>there be a reason to spend more for 'Vista Ultimate'?

>>

>>>TBerk

>>

>>Why would anyone buy Vista *anything* when Ubuntu is available for free

>>and is a far superior operating system. Check it out atwww.ubuntu.com

>>

>>Alias

>

>

> My Thoughts Precisely

>

> I started using Ubuntu about two months ago, and now use it almost

> exclusively

> - even though I have XP on the other partition

>

 

So why are you here? The sign on the door says "Vista", not ubuntu or XP.

cheley_bonstell88@live.com wrote:

> On Jul 10, 11:36 am, "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfri...@nospamgmail.com>

> wrote:

>

>>It all depends on your personal computing needs.

>>See the following comparisons:http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/defau...

>>

>>--

>>Carey Frisch

>>Microsoft MVP

>>Windows Desktop Experience -

>>Windows Vista Enthusiast

>>

>>---------------------------------------------------------------

>>

>>"TBerk" <bayareab...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:8aca7b74-833f-45a3-88a0-bf29900bbd44@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>>

>>If you're not in an office but rather at home (on the Internet) would

>>there be a reason to spend more for 'Vista Ultimate'?

>>

>>TBerk

>

>

> None of these Vista sites have a Ubuntu Chart for comparison.

>

 

 

Why would anyone with one brain cell want ubuntu? It's a known POS toy

os for broke loser.

In article <g57taq$abq$2@aioe.org>, fbis@wankerin.grade.sch says...

> This is your opinion. I have mine. Others have theirs. Unlike you, I

> think people should make up their minds themselves as to what they like

> or dislike. I also like Macs and XP. My first computer was a Mac back in

> 1984.

 

Your statement was not posted as an "Opinion" it was posted as though

you believe it to be fact and want others to believe it as fact, which

is incorrect.

 

You can say "I believe Ubuntu is a far superior operating system.", but

you can not say "Ubuntu is a far superior operating system." and be

expected to be believed or honest.

 

Your postings are misleading.

 

You were claiming Ubuntu was better before you had even experienced

Vista, and well before you had installed it.

 

In ever case I've tested with clients, they will take Vista + MS Office

over Ubuntu + Open Office.

 

 

 

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Ringmaster wrote:

 

<snipped the on the launch pad>

 

RingNut Albright is late for his own launching.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <g57taq$abq$2@aioe.org>, fbis@wankerin.grade.sch says...

>> This is your opinion. I have mine. Others have theirs. Unlike you, I

>> think people should make up their minds themselves as to what they like

>> or dislike. I also like Macs and XP. My first computer was a Mac back in

>> 1984.

>

> Your statement was not posted as an "Opinion" it was posted as though

> you believe it to be fact and want others to believe it as fact, which

> is incorrect.

>

> You can say "I believe Ubuntu is a far superior operating system.", but

> you can not say "Ubuntu is a far superior operating system." and be

> expected to be believed or honest.

>

> Your postings are misleading.

>

> You were claiming Ubuntu was better before you had even experienced

> Vista, and well before you had installed it.

>

> In ever case I've tested with clients, they will take Vista + MS Office

> over Ubuntu + Open Office.

>

>

>

 

 

That's hardly impartial is it? Why would clients need to employ you if

not to seek your advice. In any case people with unlimited (Company)

funds to spend will always take the easiest option, and those who have

not yet tried Vista will assume it to be easier than Ubuntu.

In article <#uqggR64IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <g57taq$abq$2@aioe.org>, fbis@wankerin.grade.sch says...

> >> This is your opinion. I have mine. Others have theirs. Unlike you, I

> >> think people should make up their minds themselves as to what they like

> >> or dislike. I also like Macs and XP. My first computer was a Mac back in

> >> 1984.

> >

> > Your statement was not posted as an "Opinion" it was posted as though

> > you believe it to be fact and want others to believe it as fact, which

> > is incorrect.

> >

> > You can say "I believe Ubuntu is a far superior operating system.", but

> > you can not say "Ubuntu is a far superior operating system." and be

> > expected to be believed or honest.

> >

> > Your postings are misleading.

> >

> > You were claiming Ubuntu was better before you had even experienced

> > Vista, and well before you had installed it.

> >

> > In ever case I've tested with clients, they will take Vista + MS Office

> > over Ubuntu + Open Office.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> That's hardly impartial is it? Why would clients need to employ you if

> not to seek your advice. In any case people with unlimited (Company)

> funds to spend will always take the easiest option, and those who have

> not yet tried Vista will assume it to be easier than Ubuntu.

 

Let's see, all of our customers are Businesses, not home users, but,

they all interact with Exchange, SQL 2000/2005, medical and accounting

programs and Ubuntu doesn't support that, even with Open Source

applications that provide SOME level of function for Exchange.

 

Vista, while you have to get better hardware, some newer apps, it works

painlessly, without error, and they only have to learn where to find new

menu items, not how to import/export documents, learn new apps since

none of theirs are supported.....

 

The cost of a FREE OS is not free when you consider a business that was

not previously running on Open Source.

 

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drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:17:46 -0400, Leythos wrote:

> In article <g57taq$abq$2@aioe.org>, fbis@wankerin.grade.sch says...

>> This is your opinion. I have mine. Others have theirs. Unlike you, I

>> think people should make up their minds themselves as to what they like

>> or dislike. I also like Macs and XP. My first computer was a Mac back

>> in 1984.

>

> Your statement was not posted as an "Opinion" it was posted as though

> you believe it to be fact and want others to believe it as fact, which

> is incorrect.

 

LOL! I wrote the post so, naturally, it's my opinion.

>

> You can say "I believe Ubuntu is a far superior operating system.", but

> you can not say "Ubuntu is a far superior operating system." and be

> expected to be believed or honest.

 

See above and take English 101 again.

>

> Your postings are misleading.

 

Only to those, like you, who don't realize that if I am writing it, it is

my opinion.

>

> You were claiming Ubuntu was better before you had even experienced

> Vista, and well before you had installed it.

 

In my opinion yes. Yours may vary.

>

> In ever case I've tested with clients, they will take Vista + MS Office

> over Ubuntu + Open Office.

 

And that would be *their* opinion. The fact that they're your clients

implies you gave them a little help with their opinion.

 

Alias

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:54:27 -0400, Leythos wrote:

> In article <#uqggR64IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

> says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>> > In article <g57taq$abq$2@aioe.org>, fbis@wankerin.grade.sch says...

>> >> This is your opinion. I have mine. Others have theirs. Unlike you, I

>> >> think people should make up their minds themselves as to what they

>> >> like or dislike. I also like Macs and XP. My first computer was a

>> >> Mac back in 1984.

>> >

>> > Your statement was not posted as an "Opinion" it was posted as though

>> > you believe it to be fact and want others to believe it as fact,

>> > which is incorrect.

>> >

>> > You can say "I believe Ubuntu is a far superior operating system.",

>> > but you can not say "Ubuntu is a far superior operating system." and

>> > be expected to be believed or honest.

>> >

>> > Your postings are misleading.

>> >

>> > You were claiming Ubuntu was better before you had even experienced

>> > Vista, and well before you had installed it.

>> >

>> > In ever case I've tested with clients, they will take Vista + MS

>> > Office over Ubuntu + Open Office.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>> That's hardly impartial is it? Why would clients need to employ you if

>> not to seek your advice. In any case people with unlimited (Company)

>> funds to spend will always take the easiest option, and those who have

>> not yet tried Vista will assume it to be easier than Ubuntu.

>

> Let's see, all of our customers are Businesses, not home users, but,

> they all interact with Exchange, SQL 2000/2005, medical and accounting

> programs and Ubuntu doesn't support that, even with Open Source

> applications that provide SOME level of function for Exchange.

>

> Vista, while you have to get better hardware, some newer apps, it works

> painlessly, without error, and they only have to learn where to find new

> menu items, not how to import/export documents, learn new apps since

> none of theirs are supported.....

>

> The cost of a FREE OS is not free when you consider a business that was

> not previously running on Open Source.

 

 

Using your "logic", they should have never abandoned IBM Selectric

typewriters.

 

Alias

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:34:37 -0700, fb wrote:

> cheley_bonstell88@live.com wrote:

>> On Jul 10, 11:29 am, -*Alias** <aka@masked&anonymous.ar> wrote:

>>

>>>TBerk wrote:

>>>

>>>>If you're not in an office but rather at home (on the Internet) would

>>>>there be a reason to spend more for 'Vista Ultimate'?

>>>

>>>>TBerk

>>>

>>>Why would anyone buy Vista *anything* when Ubuntu is available for free

>>>and is a far superior operating system. Check it out atwww.ubuntu.com

>>>

>>>Alias

>>

>>

>> My Thoughts Precisely

>>

>> I started using Ubuntu about two months ago, and now use it almost

>> exclusively

>> - even though I have XP on the other partition

>>

>>

> So why are you here? The sign on the door says "Vista", not ubuntu or

> XP.

 

The sign on the door says "vista.general" but I guess you're too retarded

to understand what the word "general" means.

 

Alias

In article <g58qn0$9to$4@aioe.org>, fbis@wankerin.grade.sch says...

> > Your statement was not posted as an "Opinion" it was posted as though

> > you believe it to be fact and want others to believe it as fact, which

> > is incorrect.

>

> LOL! I wrote the post so, naturally, it's my opinion.

>

> >

> > You can say "I believe Ubuntu is a far superior operating system.", but

> > you can not say "Ubuntu is a far superior operating system." and be

> > expected to be believed or honest.

>

> See above and take English 101 again.

 

Actually, you might want to come back to the USA and study it yourself.

 

A statement is only an opinion if you give the person reason to believe

it is an opinion.

 

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:37:33 -0400, Leythos wrote:

> In article <g58qn0$9to$4@aioe.org>, fbis@wankerin.grade.sch says...

>> > Your statement was not posted as an "Opinion" it was posted as though

>> > you believe it to be fact and want others to believe it as fact,

>> > which is incorrect.

>>

>> LOL! I wrote the post so, naturally, it's my opinion.

>>

>>

>> > You can say "I believe Ubuntu is a far superior operating system.",

>> > but you can not say "Ubuntu is a far superior operating system." and

>> > be expected to be believed or honest.

>>

>> See above and take English 101 again.

>

> Actually, you might want to come back to the USA and study it yourself.

 

I have taught it, many times.

 

The following statement of yours is your ill informed opinion and you

don't need to say "I believe", "IMHO" or any other such nonsense for the

reader to know it's what you believe.

> A statement is only an opinion if you give the person reason to believe

> it is an opinion.

 

I wrote it. Therefore, saying "I believe" is redundant and not good

expository writing.

 

Alias

Leythos wrote:

> In article <#uqggR64IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

> says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <g57taq$abq$2@aioe.org>, fbis@wankerin.grade.sch says...

>>>> This is your opinion. I have mine. Others have theirs. Unlike you, I

>>>> think people should make up their minds themselves as to what they like

>>>> or dislike. I also like Macs and XP. My first computer was a Mac back in

>>>> 1984.

>>> Your statement was not posted as an "Opinion" it was posted as though

>>> you believe it to be fact and want others to believe it as fact, which

>>> is incorrect.

>>>

>>> You can say "I believe Ubuntu is a far superior operating system.", but

>>> you can not say "Ubuntu is a far superior operating system." and be

>>> expected to be believed or honest.

>>>

>>> Your postings are misleading.

>>>

>>> You were claiming Ubuntu was better before you had even experienced

>>> Vista, and well before you had installed it.

>>>

>>> In ever case I've tested with clients, they will take Vista + MS Office

>>> over Ubuntu + Open Office.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> That's hardly impartial is it? Why would clients need to employ you if

>> not to seek your advice. In any case people with unlimited (Company)

>> funds to spend will always take the easiest option, and those who have

>> not yet tried Vista will assume it to be easier than Ubuntu.

>

> Let's see, all of our customers are Businesses, not home users, but,

> they all interact with Exchange, SQL 2000/2005, medical and accounting

> programs and Ubuntu doesn't support that, even with Open Source

> applications that provide SOME level of function for Exchange.

>

> Vista, while you have to get better hardware, some newer apps, it works

> painlessly, without error, and they only have to learn where to find new

> menu items, not how to import/export documents, learn new apps since

> none of theirs are supported.....

>

> The cost of a FREE OS is not free when you consider a business that was

> not previously running on Open Source.

>

 

What's that called? Is it called Cost Justification, Return on

Investment and Cost to Operate? Businesses have heavy investment in the

technology that's in place, and they are just not going to jump ship to

something else on a whim when there is no justification to do so.

 

And with emerging technology for the MS platform such as .Net's WCF,

MPF, Workflow, MVP etc, etc, now many 3rd party software language

vendors and 3rd party solution venders tapping into .Net technology,

businesses are not running to another platform for workstation or servers.

 

The posters making the most noise here on the opposite side of the coin,

really don't see what's happening or how things work. People in

businesses that are in a position to make such decisions don't shoot

from the hip. They just don't shoot from the hip, and they will keep the

status quo.

 

And Linux and Apache continue to loose Web server market share.

 

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2008/06/22/june_2008_web_server_survey.html

 

Look, I got nothing against Linux, which helps bring down cost for the

home user and business sectors. But MS is certainly not on some kind of

doom and gloom path nor are Linux systems the wave of the future that

the evangelist in the NG make it out to be.

 

However, Linux is free and it still can't make a dent, not really.

Alias wrote:

 

<snipped Alias rant>

 

Pfft, this is why you have no credibility.

Alias wrote:

 

<snipped the Alias rant>

 

This is why you have no credibility.

Alias wrote:

 

<snipped the Alias rant>

 

This is why you have no credibility.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:13:46 -0400, the <the@the.com> wrote:

 

>Look, I got nothing against Linux, which helps bring down cost for the

>home user and business sectors. But MS is certainly not on some kind of

>doom and gloom path nor are Linux systems the wave of the future that

>the evangelist in the NG make it out to be.

>

>However, Linux is free and it still can't make a dent, not really.

 

The only time you'll see a change, is when the gov't steps in like they did

with ma bell, and break up Microsoft with very strict guidelines preventing the

monopoly that now exists.

Big whup, they said they'd work with company xxx . They might have made a few

concessions. But just how easily was it to run a different browser from IE ?

I can't say for sure since FF3 came out, but I've had some programs HARD coded

to ONLY open the IE browser.

So what there's a different way [in Vista] to open browser of choice.

As long as there's only 1 OS to run 90% of the software available, M$ will

maintain it's stranglehold on your wallet.

And it's going to take gov't intervention to change that.

 

ie: FCC has very strict regulations that mean EVERY radio made, transmits and

receives with the very same rules.

If it weren't so, dodge could have their radios, Chevy have theirs, and each

one having broadcast stations that only work on a dodge or Chevy radio.

But airwaves are PUBLIC property. I would think this mode of communication

should also fall under the FCC rules. ie: 1 OS, and the companies MUST create

software that works with that 1 OS. 2 way street, the OS can't go off on some

tangent bankrupting the small companies with something exotic that refuses

company x usage.

 

Ubuntu would be in a much better position by running exe files, instead of

their proprietary whatever's.

Took hours trying to find out how to run some of my standard programs. I can't

recall, but I don't think I ever found a way to run Agent news reader thru it.

 

Ubuntu no matter how many like it, it's strictly a toy, and not worth M$

concerns.

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Alias wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:54:27 -0400, Leythos wrote:

>

>

>>In article <#uqggR64IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

>>says...

>>

>>>Leythos wrote:

>>>

>>>>In article <g57taq$abq$2@aioe.org>, fbis@wankerin.grade.sch says...

>>>>

>>>>>This is your opinion. I have mine. Others have theirs. Unlike you, I

>>>>>think people should make up their minds themselves as to what they

>>>>>like or dislike. I also like Macs and XP. My first computer was a

>>>>>Mac back in 1984.

>>>>

>>>>Your statement was not posted as an "Opinion" it was posted as though

>>>>you believe it to be fact and want others to believe it as fact,

>>>>which is incorrect.

>>>>

>>>>You can say "I believe Ubuntu is a far superior operating system.",

>>>>but you can not say "Ubuntu is a far superior operating system." and

>>>>be expected to be believed or honest.

>>>>

>>>>Your postings are misleading.

>>>>

>>>>You were claiming Ubuntu was better before you had even experienced

>>>>Vista, and well before you had installed it.

>>>>

>>>>In ever case I've tested with clients, they will take Vista + MS

>>>>Office over Ubuntu + Open Office.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>That's hardly impartial is it? Why would clients need to employ you if

>>>not to seek your advice. In any case people with unlimited (Company)

>>>funds to spend will always take the easiest option, and those who have

>>>not yet tried Vista will assume it to be easier than Ubuntu.

>>

>>Let's see, all of our customers are Businesses, not home users, but,

>>they all interact with Exchange, SQL 2000/2005, medical and accounting

>>programs and Ubuntu doesn't support that, even with Open Source

>>applications that provide SOME level of function for Exchange.

>>

>>Vista, while you have to get better hardware, some newer apps, it works

>>painlessly, without error, and they only have to learn where to find new

>>menu items, not how to import/export documents, learn new apps since

>>none of theirs are supported.....

>>

>>The cost of a FREE OS is not free when you consider a business that was

>>not previously running on Open Source.

>

>

>

> Using your "logic", they should have never abandoned IBM Selectric

> typewriters.

>

> Alias

 

Using your brain (what little you have) man would never have left the caves.

Alias wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:34:37 -0700, fb wrote:

>

>

>>cheley_bonstell88@live.com wrote:

>>

>>>On Jul 10, 11:29 am, -*Alias** <aka@masked&anonymous.ar> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>TBerk wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>If you're not in an office but rather at home (on the Internet) would

>>>>>there be a reason to spend more for 'Vista Ultimate'?

>>>>

>>>>>TBerk

>>>>

>>>>Why would anyone buy Vista *anything* when Ubuntu is available for free

>>>>and is a far superior operating system. Check it out atwww.ubuntu.com

>>>>

>>>>Alias

>>>

>>>

>>>My Thoughts Precisely

>>>

>>>I started using Ubuntu about two months ago, and now use it almost

>>>exclusively

>>>- even though I have XP on the other partition

>>>

>>>

>>

>>So why are you here? The sign on the door says "Vista", not ubuntu or

>>XP.

>

>

> The sign on the door says "vista.general" but I guess you're too retarded

> to understand what the word "general" means.

>

> Alias

 

It seems you're the retarded one.

"Vista general" does not mean neither implicitly or explicitly, that

this ng is about linux or macs.

It is about Vista.

You're not really all that bright are you sheep-fukker!

keepout@yahoo.com.invalid wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:13:46 -0400, the <the@the.com> wrote:

>

>

>> Look, I got nothing against Linux, which helps bring down cost for the

>> home user and business sectors. But MS is certainly not on some kind of

>> doom and gloom path nor are Linux systems the wave of the future that

>> the evangelist in the NG make it out to be.

>>

>> However, Linux is free and it still can't make a dent, not really.

>

> The only time you'll see a change, is when the gov't steps in like they did

> with ma bell, and break up Microsoft with very strict guidelines preventing the

> monopoly that now exists.

> Big whup, they said they'd work with company xxx . They might have made a few

> concessions. But just how easily was it to run a different browser from IE ?

> I can't say for sure since FF3 came out, but I've had some programs HARD coded

> to ONLY open the IE browser.

> So what there's a different way [in Vista] to open browser of choice.

> As long as there's only 1 OS to run 90% of the software available, M$ will

> maintain it's stranglehold on your wallet.

> And it's going to take gov't intervention to change that.

 

How many decades was IBM the top dog? Did the government step in then?

What happened to IBM was micro computer systems, client servers, and

personal computers. There was a technology change that took IBM down.

 

As it stands now, there needs to be a technology change, like from the

horse and buggy to the automobile, propeller driven aircraft to jet

driven aircraft and oil lamps to electrical lamps, etc etc. That kind of

change is going to need to happen before MS is knocked out of the box

and a new player comes to the top.

 

It's not happening and all the players are doing the same thing with the

technology at hand. So MS is going to remain the top dog, until

technology changes to something else.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:14:32 -0700, fb wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>So why are you here? The sign on the door says "Vista", not ubuntu or

>>>XP.

>>

>>

>> The sign on the door says "vista.general" but I guess you're too

>> retarded to understand what the word "general" means.

>>

>> Alias

>

> It seems you're the retarded one.

> "Vista general" does not mean neither implicitly or explicitly, that

> this ng is about linux or macs.

> It is about Vista.

> You're not really all that bright are you sheep-fukker!

 

Not only are you too retarded to understand it, you gotta post this

drivel and prove it.

 

Alias

Ringmaster wrote:

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Tell us adam albright, in which mental institution did you spent the

last 20 yrs. Cause only someone who was/has been committed for a

lengthly stay would know that much about mental illnesses.

How many of those did you suffer from?

We know the ones you currently have!...LOL!