Who cares.

Personally I don't want to wade thru all the crap to get to the bottom. So I

top post.

 

 

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:8nfha39fpa6ui18gbm6p32v7ols2ha4fl7@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:20:20 -0400, <here@home.again> wrote:

>

>>"Alias" instructed...

>>> Please learn how to post in Usenet. The way you post makes it so when

>>> one

>>> uses a real news reader, everything below your sig gets nuked. Either

>>> bottom post or get rid of your sig.

>>>

>>

>>Usenet posting monitor? Nowhere is it written that Mr.

>>I'll-post-what-I-want

>>gets to tell anyone else how to post. -)

>

> When Bozos don't post according to long established Usenet convention

> they look pretty dumb. You choice of course. -)

>

>

They make a HD TV that small?

 

 

 

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

news:uTrF9h5zHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>> I have an HD service and view HD programming on my HD TV. I am

>> impressed. It's great. The reason you are probably not impressed is

>> because it's hard to view HD on a 17" TV 20 years old. Just doesn't

>> work!

>

> I watched it on about 30 wide screen, brand new TVs. Not impressed, sorry.

>

> Alias

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>> news:%23TVd0Y5zHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>> Just say no as Linux has done? Unfortunately this means that you can't

>>>> view some HD content in Linux. Would you like to explain to someone who

>>>> has just purchased their new media pc why they can't play a high def

>>>> DVD they just bought? At least with Vista they have a chance at playing

>>>> it. With Linux the only way to play it would be if someone developed a

>>>> program that defeated the DRM built into the content. Given the DMCA in

>>>> the US (which I don't agree with or support) Microsoft's only choices

>>>> were to toe the line with the RIAA and others or be locked out of

>>>> playing the content. I hate DRM and wish Microsoft had fought it but I

>>>> am also a realist and understand that with the DMCA they really don't

>>>> have a choice unless they move their company out of the US.

>>>>

>>> We'll see what happens. I have seen HD and I'm not impressed.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

Gary wrote:

> They make a HD TV that small?

 

How small?

 

What does "wide screen" mean to you?

 

Alias

>

>

>

> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

> news:uTrF9h5zHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>> I have an HD service and view HD programming on my HD TV. I am

>>> impressed. It's great. The reason you are probably not impressed is

>>> because it's hard to view HD on a 17" TV 20 years old. Just doesn't

>>> work!

>> I watched it on about 30 wide screen, brand new TVs. Not impressed, sorry.

>>

>> Alias

>>>

>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>>> news:%23TVd0Y5zHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>> Just say no as Linux has done? Unfortunately this means that you can't

>>>>> view some HD content in Linux. Would you like to explain to someone who

>>>>> has just purchased their new media pc why they can't play a high def

>>>>> DVD they just bought? At least with Vista they have a chance at playing

>>>>> it. With Linux the only way to play it would be if someone developed a

>>>>> program that defeated the DRM built into the content. Given the DMCA in

>>>>> the US (which I don't agree with or support) Microsoft's only choices

>>>>> were to toe the line with the RIAA and others or be locked out of

>>>>> playing the content. I hate DRM and wish Microsoft had fought it but I

>>>>> am also a realist and understand that with the DMCA they really don't

>>>>> have a choice unless they move their company out of the US.

>>>>>

>>>> We'll see what happens. I have seen HD and I'm not impressed.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>

No.. what he means is that he was watching 30 TV's in El Corte Ingles..

 

He learned Vista that way too, looking at the computers on display..

 

 

"Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote in message

news:O8Qkl$5zHHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> They make a HD TV that small?

>

>

>

> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

> news:uTrF9h5zHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>> I have an HD service and view HD programming on my HD TV. I am

>>> impressed. It's great. The reason you are probably not impressed is

>>> because it's hard to view HD on a 17" TV 20 years old. Just doesn't

>>> work!

>>

>> I watched it on about 30 wide screen, brand new TVs. Not impressed,

>> sorry.

>>

>> Alias

>>>

>>>

>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>>> news:%23TVd0Y5zHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>> Just say no as Linux has done? Unfortunately this means that you can't

>>>>> view some HD content in Linux. Would you like to explain to someone

>>>>> who has just purchased their new media pc why they can't play a high

>>>>> def DVD they just bought? At least with Vista they have a chance at

>>>>> playing it. With Linux the only way to play it would be if someone

>>>>> developed a program that defeated the DRM built into the content.

>>>>> Given the DMCA in the US (which I don't agree with or support)

>>>>> Microsoft's only choices were to toe the line with the RIAA and others

>>>>> or be locked out of playing the content. I hate DRM and wish Microsoft

>>>>> had fought it but I am also a realist and understand that with the

>>>>> DMCA they really don't have a choice unless they move their company

>>>>> out of the US.

>>>>>

>>>> We'll see what happens. I have seen HD and I'm not impressed.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>

 

--

 

 

Mike Hall

MS MVP Windows Shell/User

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> No.. what he means is that he was watching 30 TV's in El Corte Ingles..

 

Actually, it was another store but you've got the right idea.

> He learned Vista that way too, looking at the computers on display..

 

No, playing with it for a couple of hours. I have also researched it

online and read about all the problems right here on this ng.

 

Alias

>

>

> "Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote in message

> news:O8Qkl$5zHHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> They make a HD TV that small?

>>

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>> news:uTrF9h5zHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>> I have an HD service and view HD programming on my HD TV. I am

>>>> impressed. It's great. The reason you are probably not impressed is

>>>> because it's hard to view HD on a 17" TV 20 years old. Just doesn't

>>>> work!

>>>

>>> I watched it on about 30 wide screen, brand new TVs. Not impressed,

>>> sorry.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23TVd0Y5zHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>>> Just say no as Linux has done? Unfortunately this means that you

>>>>>> can't view some HD content in Linux. Would you like to explain to

>>>>>> someone who has just purchased their new media pc why they can't

>>>>>> play a high def DVD they just bought? At least with Vista they

>>>>>> have a chance at playing it. With Linux the only way to play it

>>>>>> would be if someone developed a program that defeated the DRM

>>>>>> built into the content. Given the DMCA in the US (which I don't

>>>>>> agree with or support) Microsoft's only choices were to toe the

>>>>>> line with the RIAA and others or be locked out of playing the

>>>>>> content. I hate DRM and wish Microsoft had fought it but I am also

>>>>>> a realist and understand that with the DMCA they really don't have

>>>>>> a choice unless they move their company out of the US.

>>>>>>

>>>>> We'll see what happens. I have seen HD and I'm not impressed.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>

>

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:04:21 -0400, "Richard Urban"

<richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:

>YOU are ***NOT*** a customer.

>

>YOU are a ***TROLL***.

 

Can't handle the truth I see.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:11:34 -0400, "Richard Urban"

<richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:

><grin> <wink> <giggles> <howling laughter>

>

>Please stop before I pis* myself!

>

>You really think I may change to make the Linsux crowd happy. Not a chance.

 

No, nobody expects clueless fanboys to ever change. Duh... that's why

you earned the label fanboy. You blindly support Microsoft no matter

what.

Re: Well now....

 

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:15:15 -0400, "Richard Urban"

<richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:

><SNORT>

 

You learn that from Frank?

Re: Well now....

 

Alias wrote:

> I am here to spread the word about an OS that

> doesn't control you. I won't find anyone who hasn't heard about Ubuntu

> on the Ubuntu news group. Am I getting too logical for you?

 

 

OPEN LETTER TO ALIAS

 

Ubuntu is unimportant to me, and so are you. We're a business

and most of the serious things we do employ Microsoft tools -

which work very well for us.

 

What bothers me (but won't for long) is that you seem to be

evangelical about Ubuntu, as though it is more of a religion

than an operating system. You are here to "spread the word"... a

statement that you should seriously consider as evidence of a

problem. This is a "microsoft" and "windows" and "vista"

discussion, and without your help perhaps 99.99% of readers here

already know that linux is an option, and where to learn more

about it. Bluntly, you do not belong here, are not welcome, are

not needed, and you know it.

 

The fact that you persist suggests that something irrational is

driving you. You probably have difficulty finding satisfaction

elsewhere, so seek missionary status by shining the light of

linux upon the darkness of Microsoft.

 

However, like most of history's savages who met people like you,

I have a choice. While I won't broil you for dinner, I

definitely can figure out how to use the kill filter on this

news client -- and will.

 

Henry

Re: Well now....

 

Henry wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> I am here to spread the word about an OS that doesn't control you. I

>> won't find anyone who hasn't heard about Ubuntu on the Ubuntu news

>> group. Am I getting too logical for you?

>

>

> OPEN LETTER TO ALIAS

>

> Ubuntu is unimportant to me, and so are you. We're a business and most

> of the serious things we do employ Microsoft tools - which work very

> well for us.

>

> What bothers me (but won't for long) is that you seem to be evangelical

> about Ubuntu, as though it is more of a religion than an operating

> system. You are here to "spread the word"... a statement that you should

> seriously consider as evidence of a problem. This is a "microsoft" and

> "windows" and "vista" discussion, and without your help perhaps 99.99%

> of readers here already know that linux is an option, and where to learn

> more about it. Bluntly, you do not belong here, are not welcome, are not

> needed, and you know it.

>

> The fact that you persist suggests that something irrational is driving

> you. You probably have difficulty finding satisfaction elsewhere, so

> seek missionary status by shining the light of linux upon the darkness

> of Microsoft.

>

> However, like most of history's savages who met people like you, I have

> a choice. While I won't broil you for dinner, I definitely can figure

> out how to use the kill filter on this news client -- and will.

>

> Henry

 

Bye, bye.

 

Alias

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:07:40 -0400, <here@home.again> wrote:

>"Adam Albright" complained...

>> Hint: The English language is designed to be read left to right and

>> top to bottom. Why do clueless Microsoft fanboys insist on being

>> idiots and demand people read whatever crap they posted BEFORE reading

>> what you are replying to?

>>

>> Damn, dumb doesn't come close to describing arrogant top posters that

>> always think just what THEY say is important and deserves to be at the

>> top.

>>

>> Why is bottom posting the correct way? Because you never know when

>> somebody is NEW to the thread. They don't want to ready what some jerk

>> posted at the top before they read in CRONGICAL order what others have

>> said, including the original post.

>>

>

>Yes and no. A lot of self-help newsgroups are mostly Q&A, not

>conversational. People come here to find an answer to the problem named in

>the topic title, so finding info first is what they want. All these long

>heated debates are useless to anyone needing a quick fix to, say, making

>another mail client the 'mailto' default. When everything works fine

>'except' then they don't care about whatever else was said, they want to

>find what they need fast. The only people that really take time to read the

>rest of this junk are the idiots that live here. -)

 

That's crazy. You make the foolish assumption whoever made the last

post in a thread is going to always be the most relevant or useful to

whoever is following the thread or joining a thread that's been in

progress for days.

 

That would be like reading a recipe backwards. Remove from pan. Bake

at 450 degrees for 20 minutes, stir ingredients, add water, flour,

eggs.

 

Get it? You don't read bottom to top. You read top to bottom.

Re: Well now....

 

Maybe if you spent more time with your wife and business you could possible

scrape up enough euros to purchase a copy of Vista. Better yet, you could

spring on a vacation and get away from the vista.general users group for a

week and go deep into the African jungles and spread the Ubuntu word.

People in Africa need to know about the improtant features of the all

knowing all doing Ubuntu. Remember, you ARE their marketing department so

don't disappoint them.

 

 

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

news:%23yt6mZ6zHHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Henry wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>> I am here to spread the word about an OS that doesn't control you. I

>>> won't find anyone who hasn't heard about Ubuntu on the Ubuntu news

>>> group. Am I getting too logical for you?

>>

>>

>> OPEN LETTER TO ALIAS

>>

>> Ubuntu is unimportant to me, and so are you. We're a business and most of

>> the serious things we do employ Microsoft tools - which work very well

>> for us.

>>

>> What bothers me (but won't for long) is that you seem to be evangelical

>> about Ubuntu, as though it is more of a religion than an operating

>> system. You are here to "spread the word"... a statement that you should

>> seriously consider as evidence of a problem. This is a "microsoft" and

>> "windows" and "vista" discussion, and without your help perhaps 99.99% of

>> readers here already know that linux is an option, and where to learn

>> more about it. Bluntly, you do not belong here, are not welcome, are not

>> needed, and you know it.

>>

>> The fact that you persist suggests that something irrational is driving

>> you. You probably have difficulty finding satisfaction elsewhere, so seek

>> missionary status by shining the light of linux upon the darkness of

>> Microsoft.

>>

>> However, like most of history's savages who met people like you, I have a

>> choice. While I won't broil you for dinner, I definitely can figure out

>> how to use the kill filter on this news client -- and will.

>>

>> Henry

>

> Bye, bye.

>

> Alias

Re: Well now....

 

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:38:04 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com>

wrote:

>We are talking to the wind it seems. All Alias wants to do is preach Ubuntu

>to the masses. Hopefully most can see that Ubuntu is a toy and not worthy

>of anything else but a glance.

 

Is what Alias does any different than the rabid fanboy crowd preaching

about Vista and calling everyone that don't agree with their narrow

opinions trolls or idiots?

 

From my viewpoint I see a awful lot of moronic "is to", "is not" posts

and few posters bother to document or backup what they say. I do.

 

I don't just say do X, Y, Z, because I say so, I explain WHY doing X,

Y, Z is the appropriate action.

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> Youtube videos play ok here.. do you have Adobe Flash installed?

>

> DRM is a product of the music industry.. complain to them..

>

 

WPA and WGA/N are not products of the music industry!

>

> "Gladiator" <no@email.invalid> wrote in message

> news:j7sga3t09k750rin8ugjh24mecj0ij596d@4ax.com...

>> Vista is so secure that I can't even do a simple thing like watch

>> videos at youtube. You locked the gates but you also locked me out in

>> the process. Linux is a more secure OS too and I have no problem

>> viewing youtube on that OS. Get rid of that DRM crap too as it is

>> already causing issues with memory address space allocation. In the

>> meantime I will use XP as my main OS until Vista is ready for prime

>> time. By then I expect I will have to buy a new version of the OS. As

>> it is now Vista is just a novelty OS to me.

>

 

--

Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:

http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

 

"Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with

legality."

- Linus Torvalds

Richard Urban wrote:

> When the music industry drops DRM, Microsoft will likely be "glad" to

> offer a patch to remove or disable it in Vista.

>

 

If MS were to issue a patch to remove DRM from Vista, that would have to

include WGA/N and WPA.

 

--

Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:

http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

 

"Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with

legality."

- Linus Torvalds

Right. But he is saying that he can't see you tube videos in Vista. Of

course he can't because he isn't running Vista. So - technically he is

correct - but he is still a troll.

 

--

 

 

Regards,

 

Richard Urban

Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message

news:ORVaD55zHHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Richard Urban wrote:

>> If you used Vista you may be able to see youtube videos in Vista.

>>

>> You are using Linsux.

>>

>

> You Tube works just fine in Ubuntu.

>

> Alias

Re: Well now....

 

Richard Urban wrote:

> <SNORT>

>

 

Is this a side effect of being a windows fanboy? Some type of tourettes

where you can't control bodily function noises?

 

--

Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:

http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

 

"Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with

legality."

- Linus Torvalds

Re: Well now....

 

Alias wrote:

> Yawn. You do what you want to do and I will do what I want to do.

 

Well spoken for such an arrogant, self-centered linux troll.

It mind numbing how you constantly present yourself without any class at

all in this ng on a daily basis.

You are really one dumb, numb and clueless human being.

Frank

Re: Well now....

 

Alias wrote:

> Henry wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> I am here to spread the word about an OS that doesn't control you. I

>>> won't find anyone who hasn't heard about Ubuntu on the Ubuntu news

>>> group. Am I getting too logical for you?

>>

>>

>>

>> OPEN LETTER TO ALIAS

>>

>> Ubuntu is unimportant to me, and so are you. We're a business and most

>> of the serious things we do employ Microsoft tools - which work very

>> well for us.

>>

>> What bothers me (but won't for long) is that you seem to be

>> evangelical about Ubuntu, as though it is more of a religion than an

>> operating system. You are here to "spread the word"... a statement

>> that you should seriously consider as evidence of a problem. This is a

>> "microsoft" and "windows" and "vista" discussion, and without your

>> help perhaps 99.99% of readers here already know that linux is an

>> option, and where to learn more about it. Bluntly, you do not belong

>> here, are not welcome, are not needed, and you know it.

>>

>> The fact that you persist suggests that something irrational is

>> driving you. You probably have difficulty finding satisfaction

>> elsewhere, so seek missionary status by shining the light of linux

>> upon the darkness of Microsoft.

>>

>> However, like most of history's savages who met people like you, I

>> have a choice. While I won't broil you for dinner, I definitely can

>> figure out how to use the kill filter on this news client -- and will.

>>

>> Henry

>

>

> Bye, bye.

>

> Alias

 

giggle...Henry so poetically and succinctly nailed you and your

"problem" yet as expected, your ignorance and self-centered arrogance

knows not what to do.

Ha!

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>> No.. what he means is that he was watching 30 TV's in El Corte Ingles..

>

>

> Actually, it was another store but you've got the right idea.

>

>> He learned Vista that way too, looking at the computers on display..

>

>

> No, playing with it for a couple of hours. I have also researched it

> online and read about all the problems right here on this ng.

 

Yeah...right...and that makes you a Vista expert.

Yeah....

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Richard Urban wrote:

>

>> If you used Vista you may be able to see youtube videos in Vista.

>>

>> You are using Linsux.

>>

>

> You Tube works just fine in Ubuntu.

>

> Alias

 

Youtube works just fine in Vista Ultimate & IE7.

Frank

Yepper.. two whole hours screwing up his friends new Vista computer, and he

becomes the definitive source.. look how quickly he can assess HDTV.. just a

few minutes in Carrefour's 'electrónica doméstica', and he is an expert

there too

 

 

"Frank" <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote in message

news:esNxdI7zHHA.5644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>>> No.. what he means is that he was watching 30 TV's in El Corte Ingles..

>>

>>

>> Actually, it was another store but you've got the right idea.

>>

>>> He learned Vista that way too, looking at the computers on display..

>>

>>

>> No, playing with it for a couple of hours. I have also researched it

>> online and read about all the problems right here on this ng.

>

> Yeah...right...and that makes you a Vista expert.

> Yeah....

> Frank

 

--

 

 

Mike Hall

MS MVP Windows Shell/User

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

Re: Well now....

 

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:13:19 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Alias wrote:

>

>> Yawn. You do what you want to do and I will do what I want to do.

>

>Well spoken for such an arrogant, self-centered linux troll.

 

So says the arrogant, self-centered, loud mouth always bitter, always

bawling Vista troll called Frankie.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:23:53 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Alias wrote:

>

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>>> No.. what he means is that he was watching 30 TV's in El Corte Ingles..

>>

>>

>> Actually, it was another store but you've got the right idea.

>>

>>> He learned Vista that way too, looking at the computers on display..

>>

>>

>> No, playing with it for a couple of hours. I have also researched it

>> online and read about all the problems right here on this ng.

>

>Yeah...right...and that makes you a Vista expert.

>Yeah....

>Frank

 

You think the more you yell, the more you scream Linux troll the more

expert you sound. What a load of crap.

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>>> No.. what he means is that he was watching 30 TV's in El Corte Ingles..

>>

>>

>> Actually, it was another store but you've got the right idea.

>>

>>> He learned Vista that way too, looking at the computers on display..

>>

>>

>> No, playing with it for a couple of hours. I have also researched it

>> online and read about all the problems right here on this ng.

>

> Yeah...right...and that makes you a Vista expert.

> Yeah....

> Frank

 

He probably understands Vista and its weaknesses far more than you

understand anything about Linux that you degrade continuously from your

totally ignorant perspective.

 

Frankie, the mega marketing guru running a company with 8 computers running

Fista.

 

Shake Hands With,

Mr. Happy

 

--

"Cheer up, things could be worse." So I cheered up, installed Vista and

sure enough, things got worse.