http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-petitions-to-keep-xp

 

If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying

that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough

people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to Windows

Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was there was

no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many online petitions,

but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" and the rest of us

simply consider them silly.

 

Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to

Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole

purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The

calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will

consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

 

If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the

Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the

operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're so

nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a majority

of Neowin's visitors:

 

United States: (866) 234-6020

United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

Canada: (800) 936-8479

 

If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site,

choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and then

go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

Clear Windows730867 Wrote:

> 'Neowin.net - Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive'

> (http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-petitions-to-keep-xp)

>

> If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record

> saying

> that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if

> enough

> people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to

> Windows

> Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was there

> was

> no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many online

> petitions,

> but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" and the rest of

> us

> simply consider them silly.

>

> Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on

> to

> Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the

> sole

> purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP.

> The

> calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft

> will

> consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

>

> If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call

> the

> Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the

> operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because

> we're so

> nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a

> majority

> of Neowin's visitors:

>

> United States: (866) 234-6020

> United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

> Canada: (800) 936-8479

>

> If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site,

> choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and

> then

> go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

 

Deja Vu!

 

Isn't that what General Motors done with their "EV1" electric car back

in the mid 1990's? And how many of those same EV1's are now on the

roads?

 

XP is old, antiquated and no longer able to meat the needs of

consumers. Anybody who want to keep it going is either unwilling or

unable to accept change.

 

If Microsoft where to ever launch an online poll where people can vote

to keep XP, mine would be NO.

 

 

--

Dzomlija

 

Peter Alexander Dzomlija

-Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as

you die, so shall I be Reborn...-

 

_*Prometheus*_

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I'm still awaiting action to be taken on the petition to keep Win98 on life

support! Oh, wait, we got that...twice, all due to the efforts of MS MVPs,

not Neowin.

 

Clear Windows wrote:

> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-petitions-to-keep-xp

>

> If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying

> that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough

> people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to

> Windows

> Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was there

> was

> no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many online

> petitions,

> but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" and the rest of us

> simply consider them silly.

>

> Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to

> Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole

> purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The

> calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will

> consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

>

> If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the

> Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the

> operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're

> so

> nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a majority

> of Neowin's visitors:

>

> United States: (866) 234-6020

> United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

> Canada: (800) 936-8479

>

> If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site,

> choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and

> then

> go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

My two cents,

 

I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the product

provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the market

or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the

decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make

Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to take

the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg

anyone for keeping a product or not.

 

 

"Clear Windows" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message

news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-petitions-to-keep-xp

>

> If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying

> that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough

> people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to

> Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was

> there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many

> online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints"

> and the rest of us simply consider them silly.

>

> Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to

> Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole

> purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The

> calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will

> consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

>

> If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the

> Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the

> operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're

> so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a

> majority of Neowin's visitors:

>

> United States: (866) 234-6020

> United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

> Canada: (800) 936-8479

>

> If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site,

> choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and

> then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

>

>

On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote:

> My two cents,

>

> I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the product

> provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the market

> or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the

> decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make

> Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to take

> the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg

> anyone for keeping a product or not.

>

> "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>

> >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe...

>

> > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying

> > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough

> > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to

> > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was

> > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many

> > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints"

> > and the rest of us simply consider them silly.

>

> > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to

> > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole

> > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The

> > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will

> > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

>

> > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the

> > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the

> > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're

> > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a

> > majority of Neowin's visitors:

>

> > United States: (866) 234-6020

> > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

> > Canada: (800) 936-8479

>

> > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site,

> > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and

> > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

 

I disagree with their methodology but will make the call.

 

Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority

of PC users

 

 

United States: (866) 234-6020

United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

Canada: (800) 936-8479

 

Save Windows XP

"Dzomlija" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message

news:78f883a1739f2b23e390a1582e999540@nntp-gateway.com...

>

> Deja Vu!

>

> Isn't that what General Motors done with their "EV1" electric car back

> in the mid 1990's? And how many of those same EV1's are now on the

> roads?

>

> XP is old, antiquated and no longer able to meat the needs of

> consumers. Anybody who want to keep it going is either unwilling or

> unable to accept change.

 

Not true at all, evidenced by the many who do not upgrade to Vista simply

because they do not need to. And then there are the countless numbers of

businesses, mine included, who continue to run XP becasue it does meet our

needs. Changing for the sake of changing is unwise, changing because there

is a need to is another matter. For many, there is no need to change from

XP to Vista.

> If Microsoft where to ever launch an online poll where people can vote

> to keep XP, mine would be NO.

 

Many have voted "Yes" with their pocketbooks and continue to do so.

> --

> Dzomlija

>

> Peter Alexander Dzomlija

> -Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as

> you die, so shall I be Reborn...-

>

> _*Prometheus*_

> MOBO: ASUS MB-M3A32-MVP Deluxe/WiFi-AP

> CPU: AMD Phenom 9600 Quad

> RAM: 2 x A-Data 2GB DDR2-800

> GPU: ASUS ATI Radeon HD 2400PRO, 256MB

> BOX: Thermaltake Tai-Chi Water Cooled

> OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64

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"David" <mcdonald606a@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:9105796f-4c86-405e-8b53-163630836da0@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

> On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote:

>> My two cents,

>>

>> I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the

>> product

>> provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the

>> market

>> or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the

>> decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make

>> Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to

>> take

>> the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg

>> anyone for keeping a product or not.

>>

>> "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message

>>

>> news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>

>> >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe...

>>

>> > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record

>> > saying

>> > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if

>> > enough

>> > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to

>> > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem

>> > was

>> > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many

>> > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official

>> > complaints"

>> > and the rest of us simply consider them silly.

>>

>> > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on

>> > to

>> > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the

>> > sole

>> > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP.

>> > The

>> > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft

>> > will

>> > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

>>

>> > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call

>> > the

>> > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the

>> > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because

>> > we're

>> > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a

>> > majority of Neowin's visitors:

>>

>> > United States: (866) 234-6020

>> > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

>> > Canada: (800) 936-8479

>>

>> > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site,

>> > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and

>> > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

>

> I disagree with their methodology but will make the call.

>

> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority

> of PC users

>

>

> United States: (866) 234-6020

> United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

> Canada: (800) 936-8479

>

> Save Windows XP

>

>

 

 

Can you put a word in for solid tires while you are at it.

 

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

How to construct a good post..

http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

Mike's Window - My Blog..

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David wrote:

>

> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority

> of PC users

>

Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for

most routine tasks.

On May 30, 9:02 am, "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com>

wrote:

> "David" <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>

> news:9105796f-4c86-405e-8b53-163630836da0@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>

>

>

> > On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote:

> >> My two cents,

>

> >> I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the

> >> product

> >> provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the

> >> market

> >> or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the

> >> decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make

> >> Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to

> >> take

> >> the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg

> >> anyone for keeping a product or not.

>

> >> "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message

>

> >>news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>

> >> >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe...

>

> >> > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record

> >> > saying

> >> > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if

> >> > enough

> >> > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to

> >> > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem

> >> > was

> >> > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many

> >> > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official

> >> > complaints"

> >> > and the rest of us simply consider them silly.

>

> >> > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on

> >> > to

> >> > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the

> >> > sole

> >> > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP.

> >> > The

> >> > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft

> >> > will

> >> > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

>

> >> > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call

> >> > the

> >> > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the

> >> > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because

> >> > we're

> >> > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a

> >> > majority of Neowin's visitors:

>

> >> > United States: (866) 234-6020

> >> > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

> >> > Canada: (800) 936-8479

>

> >> > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site,

> >> > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and

> >> > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

>

> > I disagree with their methodology but will make the call.

>

> > Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority

> > of PC users

>

> > United States: (866) 234-6020

> > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

> > Canada: (800) 936-8479

>

> > Save Windows XP

>

> Can you put a word in for solid tires while you are at it.

>

 

Your comment does not register as Humor

 

- Friday I cut you some slack . .

 

> --

> Mike Hall - MVP

> How to construct a good post..http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

> Mike's Window - My Blog..http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

> Not true at all, evidenced by the many who do not upgrade to Vista simply

> because they do not need to. And then there are the countless numbers of

> businesses, mine included, who continue to run XP becasue it does meet our

> needs. Changing for the sake of changing is unwise, changing because

> there is a need to is another matter. For many, there is no need to

> change from XP to Vista.

>

>> If Microsoft where to ever launch an online poll where people can vote

>> to keep XP, mine would be NO.

>

> Many have voted "Yes" with their pocketbooks and continue to do so.

 

I'm running Vista because my PC died and my IT guy stopped buying XP

because MS "end of lifed it". Some people haven't actually voted but have

felt that there was no choice.

 

So far I haven't seen much advantage and I've

had some issues. I'm a developer and VS2003 is no longer supported, for

example. In all, I would have been happier just installing my ghosted XP on

a new

box. I'm probably not a typical Vista desktop user and I still run XP sp2

at home.

 

I'm wondering how many Vista users are in this position and how they'll

react

if MS now decides to keep supporting XP after previously announcing its

death.

On May 30, 2:25 am, "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe...

>

> If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying

> that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough

> people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to Windows

> Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was there was

> no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many online petitions,

> but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" and the rest of us

> simply consider them silly.

>

> Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to

> Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole

> purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The

> calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will

> consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

>

> If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the

> Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the

> operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're so

> nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a majority

> of Neowin's visitors:

>

> United States: (866) 234-6020

> United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

> Canada: (800) 936-8479

>

> If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site,

> choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and then

> go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

 

 

 

tried (866) 234-6020

 

got voice mail menu

 

finally got operator

 

Operator sweet but clueless

 

gave me 800-677-7377

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> "David" <mcdonald606a@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:9105796f-4c86-405e-8b53-163630836da0@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>> On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote:

>>> My two cents,

>>>

>>> I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the

>>> product

>>> provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the

>>> market

>>> or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the

>>> decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make

>>> Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have

>>> to take

>>> the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg

>>> anyone for keeping a product or not.

>>>

>>> "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message

>>>

>>> news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>>

>>> >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe...

>>>

>>>

>>> > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record

>>> > saying

>>> > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if >

>>> enough

>>> > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to

>>> > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The

>>> problem > was

>>> > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many

>>> > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official >

>>> complaints"

>>> > and the rest of us simply consider them silly.

>>>

>>> > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then

>>> on > to

>>> > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for

>>> the > sole

>>> > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows

>>> XP. > The

>>> > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft

>>> > will

>>> > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

>>>

>>> > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply

>>> call > the

>>> > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the

>>> > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because

>>> > we're

>>> > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a

>>> > majority of Neowin's visitors:

>>>

>>> > United States: (866) 234-6020

>>> > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

>>> > Canada: (800) 936-8479

>>>

>>> > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support

>>> Site,

>>> > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product

>>> and

>>> > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

>>

>> I disagree with their methodology but will make the call.

>>

>> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority

>> of PC users

>>

>>

>> United States: (866) 234-6020

>> United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

>> Canada: (800) 936-8479

>>

>> Save Windows XP

>>

>>

>

>

> Can you put a word in for solid tires while you are at it.

>

>

My first bike had solid tires. It was cool, I could go anywhere with

that bike. Early 1950's

Yeah, mine too. Ya know, you'd think MS would make those again.

 

sndrec32 "TheseAreAFewOfMyFavioriteThings.wav"

--

 

Mark L. Ferguson

 

"Big Al" <BigAl@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:YsT%j.2$qP.0@trnddc03...

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> "David" <mcdonald606a@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:9105796f-4c86-405e-8b53-163630836da0@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>>> On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote:

>>> Save Windows XP

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>> Can you put a word in for solid tires while you are at it.

>>

>>

> My first bike had solid tires. It was cool, I could go anywhere with

> that bike. Early 1950's

"David" <mcdonald606a@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:4518147e-313f-4d96-bc64-5dd2b8660f47@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> On May 30, 9:02 am, "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com>

> wrote:

>> "David" <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>

>> news:9105796f-4c86-405e-8b53-163630836da0@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>>

>>

>>

>> > On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote:

>> >> My two cents,

>>

>> >> I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the

>> >> product

>> >> provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the

>> >> market

>> >> or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making

>> >> the

>> >> decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make

>> >> Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to

>> >> take

>> >> the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to

>> >> beg

>> >> anyone for keeping a product or not.

>>

>> >> "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message

>>

>> >>news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>

>> >> >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe...

>>

>> >> > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record

>> >> > saying

>> >> > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if

>> >> > enough

>> >> > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to

>> >> > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The

>> >> > problem

>> >> > was

>> >> > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many

>> >> > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official

>> >> > complaints"

>> >> > and the rest of us simply consider them silly.

>>

>> >> > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then

>> >> > on

>> >> > to

>> >> > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for

>> >> > the

>> >> > sole

>> >> > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP.

>> >> > The

>> >> > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft

>> >> > will

>> >> > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

>>

>> >> > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply

>> >> > call

>> >> > the

>> >> > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the

>> >> > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because

>> >> > we're

>> >> > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a

>> >> > majority of Neowin's visitors:

>>

>> >> > United States: (866) 234-6020

>> >> > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

>> >> > Canada: (800) 936-8479

>>

>> >> > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support

>> >> > Site,

>> >> > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product

>> >> > and

>> >> > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

>>

>> > I disagree with their methodology but will make the call.

>>

>> > Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority

>> > of PC users

>>

>> > United States: (866) 234-6020

>> > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

>> > Canada: (800) 936-8479

>>

>> > Save Windows XP

>>

>> Can you put a word in for solid tires while you are at it.

>>

>

> Your comment does not register as Humor

>

> - Friday I cut you some slack . .

>

>

>> --

>> Mike Hall - MVP

>> How to construct a good post..http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support

>> Newsgroups..http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

>> Mike's Window - My Blog..http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

 

 

That's your opinion only. I thought it was quite humorous.

 

C.B.

 

 

--

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and unfortunate among us.

>

"Dzomlija" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message

news:78f883a1739f2b23e390a1582e999540@nntp-gateway.com...

>

> Clear Windows730867 Wrote:

>> 'Neowin.net - Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive'

>> (http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-petitions-to-keep-xp)

>>

>> If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record

>> saying

>> that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if

>> enough

>> people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to

>> Windows

>> Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was there

>> was

>> no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many online

>> petitions,

>> but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" and the rest of

>> us

>> simply consider them silly.

>>

>> Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on

>> to

>> Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the

>> sole

>> purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP.

>> The

>> calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft

>> will

>> consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

>>

>> If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call

>> the

>> Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the

>> operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because

>> we're so

>> nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a

>> majority

>> of Neowin's visitors:

>>

>> United States: (866) 234-6020

>> United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

>> Canada: (800) 936-8479

>>

>> If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site,

>> choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and

>> then

>> go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

>

> Deja Vu!

>

> Isn't that what General Motors done with their "EV1" electric car back

> in the mid 1990's? And how many of those same EV1's are now on the

> roads?

>

> XP is old, antiquated and no longer able to meat the needs of

> consumers. Anybody who want to keep it going is either unwilling or

> unable to accept change.

>

> If Microsoft where to ever launch an online poll where people can vote

> to keep XP, mine would be NO.

 

If you buy the Eee PC, you can get a new copy of XP in it. So I guess in a

way, you can still get XP OEM with an Eee PC XP version which answers the

question above.

 

BTW, it appears Amazon has the Eee PC XP in stock, they seem to instantly

sell out of the Linux versions.

Canuck57 wrote:

> "Dzomlija" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message

> news:78f883a1739f2b23e390a1582e999540@nntp-gateway.com...

>

>>Clear Windows730867 Wrote:

>>

>>>'Neowin.net - Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive'

>>>(http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-petitions-to-keep-xp)

>>>

>>>If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record

>>>saying

>>>that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if

>>>enough

>>>people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to

>>>Windows

>>>Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was there

>>>was

>>>no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many online

>>>petitions,

>>>but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" and the rest of

>>>us

>>>simply consider them silly.

>>>

>>>Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on

>>>to

>>>Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the

>>>sole

>>>purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP.

>>>The

>>>calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft

>>>will

>>>consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

>>>

>>>If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call

>>>the

>>>Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the

>>>operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because

>>>we're so

>>>nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a

>>>majority

>>>of Neowin's visitors:

>>>

>>>United States: (866) 234-6020

>>>United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

>>>Canada: (800) 936-8479

>>>

>>>If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site,

>>>choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and

>>>then

>>>go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

>>

>>Deja Vu!

>>

>>Isn't that what General Motors done with their "EV1" electric car back

>>in the mid 1990's? And how many of those same EV1's are now on the

>>roads?

>>

>>XP is old, antiquated and no longer able to meat the needs of

>>consumers. Anybody who want to keep it going is either unwilling or

>>unable to accept change.

>>

>>If Microsoft where to ever launch an online poll where people can vote

>>to keep XP, mine would be NO.

>

>

> If you buy the Eee PC, you can get a new copy of XP in it. So I guess in a

> way, you can still get XP OEM with an Eee PC XP version which answers the

> question above.

>

> BTW, it appears Amazon has the Eee PC XP in stock, they seem to instantly

> sell out of the Linux versions.

>

>

Yeah well, they only had two linux editions to sell.

Frank

On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote:

> David wrote:

>

>>

>> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority

>> of PC users

>>

> Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for

> most routine tasks.

 

Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of

Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a

clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta.

 

I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home.

--

Rene Brehmer

IT Technician

 

North Hill Inn

http://www.northhillinn.com

"Rene Brehmer" <rene@metalbunny.net> wrote in message

news:1v0tie1m9l70g$.qlzqjiap3bc0$.dlg@40tude.net...

> On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote:

>

>> David wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority

>>> of PC users

>>>

>> Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for

>> most routine tasks.

>

> Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of

> Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a

> clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta.

>

> I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home.

> --

> Rene Brehmer

> IT Technician

>

> North Hill Inn

> http://www.northhillinn.com

 

That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them playing

music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every application

you can use. No problems here just as long as you really know what you are

doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem but the user not

knowing how to properly operate the computer.

Rene Brehmer wrote:

>

>

>

Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap...

 

Sorry, but that is simply not true.

 

to come out of Richmond yet.

 

Richmond? You must mean Redmond right?

 

 

I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a

> clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta.

 

So you're saying you can't get your install of Vista to run properly?

Which version of Vista do you have, and exactly what problem do you have?

Frank

Billy Smith wrote:

>That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them

> playing music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every

> application you can use. No problems here just as long as you really

> know what you are doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem

> but the user not knowing how to properly operate the computer.

 

Back when I built my first computer, DOS, Windows 3.1. 386-16 16 MB Ram.

It would do a lot of neat things "Just as long as you really knew what

you were doing". Like writing batch files to load and unload conflicting

TSR's from memory etc. Here we are 22 years later, and you still have to

be some kind of "wizard" to keep Windows working.

--

Joe Leikhim K4SAT

"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

 

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?

For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

 

"Follow The Money" -P

> Here we are 22 years later, and you still have to be some kind of "wizard"

> to keep Windows working.

 

My thought, exactly. How pathetic.

 

 

 

"RFI-EMI-GUY" <Rhyolite@NETTALLY.COM> wrote in message

news:k%%%j.151$UF5.143@bignews8.bellsouth.net...

> Billy Smith wrote:

>>That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them

>>playing music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every

>>application you can use. No problems here just as long as you really know

>>what you are doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem but the

>>user not knowing how to properly operate the computer.

>

> Back when I built my first computer, DOS, Windows 3.1. 386-16 16 MB Ram.

> It would do a lot of neat things "Just as long as you really knew what you

> were doing". Like writing batch files to load and unload conflicting TSR's

> from memory etc. Here we are 22 years later, and you still have to be some

> kind of "wizard" to keep Windows working.

> --

> Joe Leikhim K4SAT

> "The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

>

> "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?

> For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

>

> "Follow The Money" -P

On May 30, 6:56 pm, Rene Brehmer <r...@metalbunny.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote:

> > David wrote:

>

> >> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority

> >> of PC users

>

> > Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for

> > most routine tasks.

>

> Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of

> Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a

> clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta.

>

> I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home.

> --

> Rene Brehmer

> IT Technician

>

> North Hill Innhttp://www.northhillinn.com

 

Agree..

 

Vista Loses almost every performance benchmark,

 

re Vista:

 

- Story I heard was

 

thet the guy at Microsoft in charge of Vista

 

Said it was ready to ship.

 

AND THEN he immediately went to Yahoo, with a

 

Thirty Million Dollar Signing Bonus..

 

-Windows XP does the job here

 

and Ubuntu GG is on the other partition

 

IF Microsoft had a new OS that was worthy of purchase

'd get one

 

Until then Its XP & Linux

On May 30, 4:23 pm, RFI-EMI-GUY <Rhyol...@NETTALLY.COM> wrote:

> Billy Smith wrote:

> >That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them

> > playing music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every

> > application you can use. No problems here just as long as you really

> > know what you are doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem

> > but the user not knowing how to properly operate the computer.

>

- Back when I built my first computer, DOS, Windows 3.1. 386-16 16 MB

Ram.

- It would do a lot of neat things "Just as long as you really knew

what

- you were doing". Like writing batch files to load and unload

conflicting

- TSR's from memory etc. Here we are 22 years later, and you still

have to

- be some kind of "wizard" to keep Windows working.

- --

- Joe Leikhim K4SAT

- "The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

-

- "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?

- For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

-

- "Follow The Money"  -P

 

RFI-EMI-GUY - Dang - Batch Files (.bat) now that is

something i ain't heard of in a mighty long while.

 

config.sys me 'til i'm dos'ed ~ RHF

.

Billy Smith wrote:

> "Rene Brehmer" <rene@metalbunny.net> wrote in message

> news:1v0tie1m9l70g$.qlzqjiap3bc0$.dlg@40tude.net...

>> On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote:

>>

>>> David wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority

>>>> of PC users

>>>>

>>> Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for

>>> most routine tasks.

>>

>> Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of

>> Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a

>> clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta.

>>

>> I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home.

>> --

>> Rene Brehmer

>> IT Technician

>>

>> North Hill Inn

>> http://www.northhillinn.com

>

> That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them playing

> music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every application

> you can use. No problems here just as long as you really know what you are

> doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem but the user not

> knowing how to properly operate the computer.

 

Or the owner not being able to afford a 900 terahertz 16-core processor

with 100 terabytes of memory.

 

--

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- and I see many of them in the audience here today - our sense of patriotism

is particularly strong." -- Barack Obama's seance

"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:2oo6h5-899.ln1@remote.clifto.com...

> Billy Smith wrote:

>> "Rene Brehmer" <rene@metalbunny.net> wrote in message

>> news:1v0tie1m9l70g$.qlzqjiap3bc0$.dlg@40tude.net...

>>> On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote:

>>>

>>>> David wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority

>>>>> of PC users

>>>>>

>>>> Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for

>>>> most routine tasks.

>>>

>>> Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of

>>> Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling

>>> a

>>> clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta.

>>>

>>> I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home.

>>> --

>>> Rene Brehmer

>>> IT Technician

>>>

>>> North Hill Inn

>>> http://www.northhillinn.com

>>

>> That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them

>> playing

>> music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every

>> application

>> you can use. No problems here just as long as you really know what you

>> are

>> doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem but the user not

>> knowing how to properly operate the computer.

>

> Or the owner not being able to afford a 900 terahertz 16-core processor

> with 100 terabytes of memory.

>

 

What makes this interesting to me is that I paid 200 dollars for the desktop

computer brand new out of the box at Circuit City. Computer was originally

409 dollars and discounted to 200. Worked great right out of the box. I

didn't have a bit of problem with that computer and its about a year old.

Next pieces I bought were two laptops one from last August and the other

this February. HP for both of them and spent 1500 for both of them in total.

Both with 1 GB of ram apiece. 160 GB drive on one and 250 GB on the other.

AMD processor on both 2.0 Ghz plus speed. So basically 700 bucks for one

laptop and 800 for another. I've been seeing desktops for maybe 500-700

which is pretty reasonable.