In article <gsn7a3hsabu2mctkr39adhs9qevi25kgbh@4ax.com>,

Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

> The only reasonable conclusion is there are two camps of posters.

> Those asking questions looking for serious answers and people

> responding to them simply to help and then there are the finger

> pointers that get off being Microsoft apologists.

 

Then there is the 3rd group that continually posts the same "Vista is

broken" crap and never really helps anyone.

 

Then there are the LinTrolls.

 

Mike

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:43:20 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <kal7a3p427g6kg38ligacs0jcbkec0e7b2@4ax.com>,

> Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>

>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:46:53 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>>

>> >In article <rej7a3dpj2u5qk18pecpcqu78ges2np1o1@4ax.com>,

>> > Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>> >

>> >> The works fine for me excuse doesn't cut it.

>> >

>> >So why is the "It doesn't work for me" excuse valid?

>> >

>> >Mike

>>

>> Because it doesn't work for all people. Get it yet?

>>

>> I mean come on, how much proof you need? Do your own Google research.

>> Just in a few minutes I found all kinds of forums, blogs, web pages

>> where people are bitching about this same issue. Are you saying

>> hundreds of thousands of people are all wrong and you are right?

>

>No, I'm saying they are not representative of the millions of people who

>*aren't* having problems. The people who *aren't* having problems

>aren't likely to post that they are not having problems, are they?

>

>Do you walk into a doctor's office and conclude "Wow, everyone in this

>town must have some disease! Look at all these people looking for

>help!"

 

 

I make conclusions based on what the FACTS show. A LOT of people have

real issues with Vista. Seems way more than those having problems with

XP. Does everyone have problems with Vista? Of course not. The

question is why should anybody? Vista is just another version of

Windows, a mature product that's been in the market for 21 years and

still Microsoft can't seem to release a version that isn't buggy and

in desperate need of a SP1, sometimes a SP2 or SP3. <wink>

 

Why is that?

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:44:26 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <h7l7a31ampm0s8j8pm8nnhpdbf0nvko8bq@4ax.com>,

> Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>

>> Spoken like a true fanboy. Damn Mike, you really should get Microsoft

>> to pay you for being an apologist. Next time I run into Billy G, I'll

>> mention you're a good little solider. -)

>

>Yeah, I'm *such* an MS fanboy I do 90% of my posting from OS X!

>Get a clue.

 

 

I'm not looking at what OS you use, rather the lame things you're

saying. You seem to be the one that's clueless.

In article <c1q7a3liii19jlvvlgtl68ph7pmrsgv14p@4ax.com>,

Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

> I make conclusions based on what the FACTS show. A LOT of people have

> real issues with Vista.

 

But clearly most are not. That is also a FACT!

> Seems way more than those having problems with

> XP.

 

That's because XP is now 6 years old. The driver issues, software

compatibility issues and hardware compatibility issues are long since

worked out. Were you looking at Windows support newsgroups when XP

was 6 months old?

> Does everyone have problems with Vista? Of course not. The

> question is why should anybody?

 

For the billionth time - because it's a brand new OS!

 

Mike

In article <n8q7a35m44kpja2bffo7p6o2859ea3vja4@4ax.com>,

Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

> I'm not looking at what OS you use, rather the lame things you're

> saying. You seem to be the one that's clueless.

 

Translation: you are too stupid to read message headers, and are now in

your familiar back pedaling mode.

 

Mike

Adam ..I for one am extremely guilty of raving about the joys of Vista

simply because I am not suffering from these many problems people are

posting on these newsgroups....What frickin irks me the most is the people

screaming about how bad Vista is without posting a real problem...The I hate

Vista it sucks !! and that is all is kind of irritating to say the

least...people bitching about stuff like how great xp was when it first came

out and ANYBODY with any intelligence knows that it had its problems...It

took 2 service packs to make it half decent.......I am no computer whiz but

know enough to keep my machine screaming along just fine..( I also maintain

3 xp machines and 1 OS10 iMAC)..The latter being enough to make a grown man

put his fist through the monitor !!...The bottom line is Vista has in the

grand scheme minor problems that can be fixed..!!...As for UAC the public

has no one to blame but themselves for not protecting there computers and

then blaming Microsoft for getting infections....I FRICKIN HATE UAC but I

understand it !!!..As for discussion I am always up for that if I do not get

in over my head and will be the first to admit when that is !!!...Have a

better day !!....just my 3 cents

 

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:gsn7a3hsabu2mctkr39adhs9qevi25kgbh@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:40:35 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

> wrote:

>

>>Adam...I am really curious to know specifically what is giving your

>>machine

>>a problem ??What programs ??or what files ??

>

> Where did I say I am having problems? I'm REPORTING on a problem many

> people have. There's a difference. Heck, I'm the one that offered two

> fixes for the calculating time remaining issue. The fanboy crowd don't

> like anybody pointing out flaws in Vista. It bugs them so causing them

> to go into one of their typical tirades.

>

> You'll notice the OP ended out with a taunt...

>

> "I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack."

>

> It should be increasingly obvious who the REAL trolls are that hang

> out in this newsgroup. They don't want discussion, they are here to

> defend Microsoft and make excuses for them and they try to shout down

> anybody that stands up to them. Why, you'll have to ask them.

>

> The sad thing about newsgroups like this is they are infested with

> people that love to point their finger. They're usual excuses for

> people having problems are transparent and often bogus.

>

> 1. User's fault.

> 2. A driver issue.

> 3. Outdated hardware.

> 4. Incompatible software.

>

> You'll notice anytime anybody discusses problems obviously exclusive

> to the operating system itself like the calculating time remaining

> issue, the fanboy club is the one attacking and typically say they

> don't have that problem, implying anybody that does must be some kind

> of idiot.

>

> The only reasonable conclusion is there are two camps of posters.

> Those asking questions looking for serious answers and people

> responding to them simply to help and then there are the finger

> pointers that get off being Microsoft apologists.

>

> Pretty silly state of affairs. :-(

>

I have not had any issues with Vista either...so I must conclude that those

whom have problems with it have hardware or user issues.

It works, and if I can make it work on my Dell XPS 600 , it can run on any

machine. It actually runs on my system better than XP (tho some games like

FEAR seem to run a wee bit slower).

 

"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:8346118F-A49A-4091-8D8C-B3ADE4F10408@microsoft.com...

> Good to see a positive, instead of negatives!

>

> "Bob" wrote:

>

>> Just wanted to say I really like my vista.

>> Since I have installed it, all my hardware works. No crashes, no problems

>> at

>> all.

>> Just wanted to let people know there are thousands and thousands of us

>> who

>> use Vista every day and have little if any problems at all with it. The

>> only

>> trick to any OS is making sure you have the correct drivers for what ever

>> OS

>> you are running. If you do that you will have no problems at all.

>>

>> I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack.

>>

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:6mn7a398jpi82suucdjkqt9ndbrhl7ft0c@4ax.com...

> That from the guy that implied I was too dumb to build a color tv.

 

Really when did I say that?

> I start out trying to have intelligent conversations and you're the

> typical result.

 

Your first post was:

"The so-called "trolls" are typically WAY smarter than the fanboy

crowd. You want me to say something nice about Vista?

Damn pretty packaging it comes in!"

 

This is a intelligent conversation for you?

 

> I can out debate you, you know it, so YOU start to act

> up in some feeble attempt to try to save face. That's the fanboy MO.

 

I have no idea what your ranting about?

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:17 -0700, "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>news:6mn7a398jpi82suucdjkqt9ndbrhl7ft0c@4ax.com...

>> That from the guy that implied I was too dumb to build a color tv.

>

>Really when did I say that?

>

>> I start out trying to have intelligent conversations and you're the

>> typical result.

>

>Your first post was:

>"The so-called "trolls" are typically WAY smarter than the fanboy

>crowd. You want me to say something nice about Vista?

>Damn pretty packaging it comes in!"

>

>This is a intelligent conversation for you?

 

It's called HUMOR, something the fanboy crowd is totally lacking. I

never saw a more up-tight self-absorbed bunch of losers in any

newsgroup then here in Vista Fanboys Central.

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:47:11 -0400, "Crusher" <crusher@home.now>

wrote:

>I have not had any issues with Vista either...so I must conclude that those

>whom have problems with it have hardware or user issues.

>It works, and if I can make it work on my Dell XPS 600 , it can run on any

>machine. It actually runs on my system better than XP (tho some games like

>FEAR seem to run a wee bit slower).

 

Oh please... That's like somebody in Death Valley California looking

up at the sky and proclaiming, damn it never rains, earth must be a

dry planet.

 

Making Vista "work" depends on your particular hardware combination

and what software you have installed. Strip all that away and still

Vista right out of the box is buggy. Take file transfers for example.

 

I KNOW some people don't experience it. If you did I bet you'd be at

the head of the line squealing like a stuck pig.

 

Part of the problem with newsgroups like this is a lot of people can't

look past the end of their own nose. Their mindset is problem, what

problem, I don't have THAT problem, therefore anybody that does must

be a idiot.

 

How foolish.

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:57:17 -0700, "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>

>>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>>news:6mn7a398jpi82suucdjkqt9ndbrhl7ft0c@4ax.com...

>>

>>>That from the guy that implied I was too dumb to build a color tv.

>>

>>Really when did I say that?

>>

>>

>>>I start out trying to have intelligent conversations and you're the

>>>typical result.

>>

>>Your first post was:

>>"The so-called "trolls" are typically WAY smarter than the fanboy

>>crowd. You want me to say something nice about Vista?

>>Damn pretty packaging it comes in!"

>>

>>This is a intelligent conversation for you?

>

>

> It's called HUMOR, something the fanboy crowd is totally lacking. I

> never saw a more up-tight self-absorbed bunch of losers in any

> newsgroup then here in Vista Fanboys Central.

>

Recognizing something as being humorous is generally considered a sign

of some intelligence.

You are completely and absolutely without any doubt, void of any humor

whatsoever.

Oh, I forgot...mr genius...yeah...right!

Frank

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:56:02 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

wrote:

>Adam ..I for one am extremely guilty of raving about the joys of Vista

>simply because I am not suffering from these many problems people are

>posting on these newsgroups....What frickin irks me the most is the people

>screaming about how bad Vista is without posting a real problem...The I hate

>Vista it sucks !! and that is all is kind of irritating to say the

>least...people bitching about stuff like how great xp was when it first came

>out and ANYBODY with any intelligence knows that it had its problems...It

>took 2 service packs to make it half decent.......I am no computer whiz but

>know enough to keep my machine screaming along just fine..

 

Extremists on BOTH sides irk me. Agree, people that scream Vista sucks

are just as dumb as Frank screaming everybody is a Linux troll. The

reality is Vista has issues. Agree, XP had issues. So did every

earlier version of Windows. That's my point. When will Microsoft ever

get anything out the door that works without having to wait for some

service pack? The often heard fanboy excuse all software has bugs

simply doesn't hold water. While no software is perfect, other vendors

seem able to release software that is virtually bug free. I'll cite

two applications I've used for years. Agent, my newsreader and Vegas

from Sony, my professional grade video editor. Both are rock solid

stable, don't crash, they simply work. Don't we all wish Windows did.

 

While writing code for any OS is a complex task what irks me with

Microsoft is they keep screwing up things that DID work in earlier

versions of Windows. I'll cite three things broke in Vista:

 

1. file transfers

2. Media Player

3. Movie Maker

 

Item #1 is simply unforgivable. While not everybody has this problem

the simple fact that Microsoft has already issued a hotfix for it is

telling. How any company as big as Microsoft can screw up internal

routines that simply move files around that even causes true blue MVPs

to publicly admit they won't even use the Explorer shell speaks

volumes.

 

Items #2 and #3 are equally lame. Media Player is so dumb it will go

out on the web looking for codecs already on the system that other

applications are using to play the same files. Movie Maker is so lame

you can drop a 100% compliant MPEG-2 file on the timeline and it only

sees the audio stream. These are the marks of sloppy programming.

Fanboys love to pretend otherwise. My 30 plus years experience tells

me otherwise.

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:54:53 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>Bob wrote:

>>

>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>> news:h7l7a31ampm0s8j8pm8nnhpdbf0nvko8bq@4ax.com...

>>

>>> Spoken like a true fanboy. Damn Mike, you really should get Microsoft

>>> to pay you for being an apologist. Next time I run into Billy G, I'll

>>> mention you're a good little solider. -)

>>>

>>

>> I don't understand why you have to lower yourself to name-calling?

>> Maybe you could try to carry on a intelligent conversations about what

>> you see as major problems with Vista.

>>

>Fat chance of that ever happening!

>Frank

 

Frankie, you're engaging in what psychologists call projecting, a

defense mechanism. You scream about other people's faults you have

yourself.

 

The practice is a defense mechanism the individual attributes to other

people's impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept he

has. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks insight

into his own impulses and traits.

 

So when you're screaming idiot, drunk, fool, troll, you're really

taking about yourself Frankie.

 

Learn more about yourself here:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:06:17 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>

>

>>

>> That from the guy that implied I was too dumb to build a color tv.

>

>Ever build one?

>

>

> I can out debate you...

 

You're projecting again Frank. Calm down, have some warm milk and go

to bed. No need to stay up late, I'll be here tomorrow to keep kicking

you in your stupid ass. -)

Adam Albright wrote:

 

>

>

> Extremists on BOTH sides irk me. Agree, people that scream Vista sucks

> are just as dumb as Frank screaming everybody is a Linux troll.

 

Well it's obvious you cannot read or else your reading comprehension is

for sh*t cause I've never labeled everyone as linux trolls. I've only

labeled linux trolls as linux trolls...hahaha...lol...you're and idiot!

You're not nearly as smart as you think you are nor as smart as you

would like us all to believe are?

In fact you're pretty fukkin stupid by anyone's measure.

Hell, you can't even get your own stupid computer to run correctly.

You're just a big mouth blow hard moron!

Frank

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:46:23 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <28F56727-CE96-4E92-9001-A6B72D7EA7A8@microsoft.com>,

> "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>> news:rej7a3dpj2u5qk18pecpcqu78ges2np1o1@4ax.com...

>> >>I just created a folder on a local drive and a folder on a network share.

>> >>Copied 20 music albums to both locations in about 90 seconds.

>> >>Deleted both folders with no delays at all.

>> >>So it seems to work fine for me. Don't know what others are doing all I

>> >>can

>> >>do is speak for what my hands-on experience tells me.

>> >

>> > The works fine for me excuse doesn't cut it.

>> >

>>

>> Why not?

>

>Because it doesn't work for *him*. Therefore, it's "seriously broken".

 

That's right, just ignore searches at Google that generate hundreds of

thousands of hits from people all having the same problem. Maybe you

consider slow file transfers a new Vista "feature".

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:07:51 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <6mn7a398jpi82suucdjkqt9ndbrhl7ft0c@4ax.com>,

> Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>

>> That from the guy that implied I was too dumb to build a color tv. I

>> start out trying to have intelligent conversations and you're the

>> typical result. I can out debate you, you know it, so YOU start to act

>> up in some feeble attempt to try to save face. That's the fanboy MO.

>

>NO ONE said you were too dumb to build a color TV.

>

>Now, comparing a color TV to a modern computer OS *is* dumb!

 

You STILL chewing on that?

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:38:01 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <c1q7a3liii19jlvvlgtl68ph7pmrsgv14p@4ax.com>,

> Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>

>> I make conclusions based on what the FACTS show. A LOT of people have

>> real issues with Vista.

>

>But clearly most are not. That is also a FACT!

 

Only a fool would make such a foolish comment since there is no way

anyone can know how many users don't have problems. This may come as a

shock, but not everyone that has problems comes to this newsgroup to

tell us about them. In fact for everyone that does, rest assured there

are probably at least a 100 others that have the same problem.

>

>> Seems way more than those having problems with

>> XP.

>

>That's because XP is now 6 years old. The driver issues, software

>compatibility issues and hardware compatibility issues are long since

>worked out. Were you looking at Windows support newsgroups when XP

>was 6 months old?

>

>> Does everyone have problems with Vista? Of course not. The

>> question is why should anybody?

>

>For the billionth time - because it's a brand new OS!

 

Windows is not new. It has been around 21 years. Much of the crud in

earlier versions of Windows simply got tweaked in Vista. You fanboys

are a riot. You think Vista is brand new from the ground up. Well

surprise it's just another remake of NT in many areas of the code.

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:48:15 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <n8q7a35m44kpja2bffo7p6o2859ea3vja4@4ax.com>,

> Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>

>> I'm not looking at what OS you use, rather the lame things you're

>> saying. You seem to be the one that's clueless.

>

>Translation: you are too stupid to read message headers, and are now in

>your familiar back pedaling mode.

 

I don't need to read message headers to figure out a-holes like you. I

have that feature turned off in Agent. Like I said, I'll judge you by

the slop you've said.

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:04:42 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>

>

>>

>>

>> Extremists on BOTH sides irk me. Agree, people that scream Vista sucks

>> are just as dumb as Frank screaming everybody is a Linux troll.

>

>Well it's obvious you cannot read or else your reading comprehension is

>for sh*t cause I've never labeled everyone as linux trolls. I've only

>labeled linux trolls as linux trolls...hahaha...lol...you're and idiot!

>You're not nearly as smart as you think you are nor as smart as you

>would like us all to believe are?

>In fact you're pretty fukkin stupid by anyone's measure.

>Hell, you can't even get your own stupid computer to run correctly.

>You're just a big mouth blow hard moron!

>Frank

 

Hey Frankie, those drugs anti-psychic starting to kick in? You haven't

called me a drunk all day. Now you're just pretending I can't get my

computer to run correctly. I take that as a sign your delusional

behavior may be improving. Lets hope so!

Although I understand your points about some of this can you say

unequivocally that "Agent" or "Vegas" works on every system and every

hardware combination or is this your personal experience ??Have they never

had any kind of update for compatibility ?? I am not trying to be

argumentative in any way just simply making a point...Your point about

sloppy programming could be compared to a recall on a new vehicle that never

should have left the factory with the problem in the first case...I

personally would prefer a service pack over a recall !! I agree that Vista

was rushed but we ALL know (once again intelligence dictates) from pressure

to release to the public...We ALL can see that Vista is but a shadow of what

Longhorn was supposed to be...Once again I will state that Vista runs fine

for me but with a slight variation in hardware it would not..I know this

from reading posts and have seen other machines with almost identical

hardware but not quite and having horrendous problems..I am talking

everything but the video card or everything but the hdd brand...This HAS to

have something to do with it, How else does one explain it ?? From

experience with xp for the longest time my machine (at the time) would flat

out f**k up with sp2 installed and yet a buddy's machine (identical except

for processor) ran perfectly....Figure that one out.....I do not use movie

maker so I cannot say or argue about that...Media player has not given me

much problem although I use winDVD with no problems...as for file transfers

I have not noticed a problem (maybe it was fixed and I just didn't notice

(windows update will have to research what hotfix it was) As for the part

about "Linux" that too is getting way old !!It is not perfect either by a

loooong shot !!!Lastly I will agree about what you call the fanboys who rave

about Vista and NOTHING is wrong with it...Maybe they have the right

combination of hardware,,Maybe they know what they are doing or maybe they

have blinders it is not my job to say....Since I have been coming to these

newsgroups when I have needed help for yrs I prefer to think that it is

numbers 1 and 2...I have never been led astray by the people who have ALSO

been here for yrs..Once again just my 3 cents....I look forward to your

response

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:bs48a353bh9mp39nskpsvp3hh4utpmncpf@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:56:02 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

> wrote:

>

>>Adam ..I for one am extremely guilty of raving about the joys of Vista

>>simply because I am not suffering from these many problems people are

>>posting on these newsgroups....What frickin irks me the most is the people

>>screaming about how bad Vista is without posting a real problem...The I

>>hate

>>Vista it sucks !! and that is all is kind of irritating to say the

>>least...people bitching about stuff like how great xp was when it first

>>came

>>out and ANYBODY with any intelligence knows that it had its problems...It

>>took 2 service packs to make it half decent.......I am no computer whiz

>>but

>>know enough to keep my machine screaming along just fine..

>

> Extremists on BOTH sides irk me. Agree, people that scream Vista sucks

> are just as dumb as Frank screaming everybody is a Linux troll. The

> reality is Vista has issues. Agree, XP had issues. So did every

> earlier version of Windows. That's my point. When will Microsoft ever

> get anything out the door that works without having to wait for some

> service pack? The often heard fanboy excuse all software has bugs

> simply doesn't hold water. While no software is perfect, other vendors

> seem able to release software that is virtually bug free. I'll cite

> two applications I've used for years. Agent, my newsreader and Vegas

> from Sony, my professional grade video editor. Both are rock solid

> stable, don't crash, they simply work. Don't we all wish Windows did.

>

> While writing code for any OS is a complex task what irks me with

> Microsoft is they keep screwing up things that DID work in earlier

> versions of Windows. I'll cite three things broke in Vista:

>

> 1. file transfers

> 2. Media Player

> 3. Movie Maker

>

> Item #1 is simply unforgivable. While not everybody has this problem

> the simple fact that Microsoft has already issued a hotfix for it is

> telling. How any company as big as Microsoft can screw up internal

> routines that simply move files around that even causes true blue MVPs

> to publicly admit they won't even use the Explorer shell speaks

> volumes.

>

> Items #2 and #3 are equally lame. Media Player is so dumb it will go

> out on the web looking for codecs already on the system that other

> applications are using to play the same files. Movie Maker is so lame

> you can drop a 100% compliant MPEG-2 file on the timeline and it only

> sees the audio stream. These are the marks of sloppy programming.

> Fanboys love to pretend otherwise. My 30 plus years experience tells

> me otherwise.

>

I never quite understand these posts. I can understanding liking

apps, but an OS should just work unnoticed in the background. It's

sorta like turning on the TV and saying, I really like my electricity.

 

 

--

 

 

When they discover the center of the universe,

a lot of people will be disappointed to discover they are not it.

 

....Bernard Bailey

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:19:17 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

wrote:

>Although I understand your points about some of this can you say

>unequivocally that "Agent" or "Vegas" works on every system and every

>hardware combination or is this your personal experience ??

 

Of course not which only tends to prove the reverse... that those that

claim oh, "I don't have that problem" shouldn't be quick to make fun

of those that DO have problems, yet that is the mentality of many

posters here.

>Have they never

>had any kind of update for compatibility ?? I am not trying to be

>argumentative in any way just simply making a point...Your point about

>sloppy programming could be compared to a recall on a new vehicle that never

>should have left the factory with the problem in the first case...I

>personally would prefer a service pack over a recall !! I agree that Vista

>was rushed but we ALL know (once again intelligence dictates) from pressure

>to release to the public...

 

When I refer to sloppy programming it is things that should NEVER have

got into Windows to begin with. Examples would include slow file

handling and half-cocked implementations of something totally new and

different like UAC that while good in concept is horrible in how it

was implemented.

>We ALL can see that Vista is but a shadow of what

>Longhorn was supposed to be...Once again I will state that Vista runs fine

>for me but with a slight variation in hardware it would not..I know this

>from reading posts and have seen other machines with almost identical

>hardware but not quite and having horrendous problems..I am talking

>everything but the video card or everything but the hdd brand...This HAS to

>have something to do with it, How else does one explain it ??

 

Of course, try and tell it to guys like Frankie.

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:54:53 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>

>

>>Bob wrote:

>>

>>>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>>>news:h7l7a31ampm0s8j8pm8nnhpdbf0nvko8bq@4ax.com...

>>>

>>>

>>>>Spoken like a true fanboy. Damn Mike, you really should get Microsoft

>>>>to pay you for being an apologist. Next time I run into Billy G, I'll

>>>>mention you're a good little solider. -)

>>>>

>>>

>>>I don't understand why you have to lower yourself to name-calling?

>>>Maybe you could try to carry on a intelligent conversations about what

>>>you see as major problems with Vista.

>>>

>>

>>Fat chance of that ever happening!

>>Frank

>

>

> Frankie, you're engaging in what psychologists call projecting, a

> defense mechanism. You scream about other people's faults you have

> yourself.

>

> The practice is a defense mechanism the individual attributes to other

> people's impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept he

> has. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks insight

> into his own impulses and traits.

>

> So when you're screaming idiot, drunk, fool, troll, you're really

> taking about yourself Frankie.

>

> Learn more about yourself here:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

>

 

All those meds you're taking aren't working are they?

Try not getting blinding, stinking drunk while on them and they might

just work.

Frank

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:19:17 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

> wrote:

>

>

>>Although I understand your points about some of this can you say

>>unequivocally that "Agent" or "Vegas" works on every system and every

>>hardware combination or is this your personal experience ??

>

>

> Of course not which only tends to prove the reverse... that those that

> claim oh, "I don't have that problem" shouldn't be quick to make fun

> of those that DO have problems, yet that is the mentality of many

> posters here.

>

>

>>Have they never

>>had any kind of update for compatibility ?? I am not trying to be

>>argumentative in any way just simply making a point...Your point about

>>sloppy programming could be compared to a recall on a new vehicle that never

>>should have left the factory with the problem in the first case...I

>>personally would prefer a service pack over a recall !! I agree that Vista

>>was rushed but we ALL know (once again intelligence dictates) from pressure

>>to release to the public...

>

>

> When I refer to sloppy programming it is things that should NEVER have

> got into Windows to begin with. Examples would include slow file

> handling and half-cocked implementations of something totally new and

> different like UAC that while good in concept is horrible in how it

> was implemented.

>

>

>>We ALL can see that Vista is but a shadow of what

>>Longhorn was supposed to be...Once again I will state that Vista runs fine

>>for me but with a slight variation in hardware it would not..I know this

>

>>from reading posts and have seen other machines with almost identical

>

>>hardware but not quite and having horrendous problems..I am talking

>>everything but the video card or everything but the hdd brand...This HAS to

>>have something to do with it, How else does one explain it ??

>

>

> Of course, try and tell it to guys like Frankie.

>

 

Oh, so that explains why you're so stupid and computer illiterate that

you can't properly configure Vista on your computer?

Well, we all understand and appreciate your incompetence.

Frank