Just wanted to say I really like my vista.

Since I have installed it, all my hardware works. No crashes, no problems at

all.

Just wanted to let people know there are thousands and thousands of us who

use Vista every day and have little if any problems at all with it. The only

trick to any OS is making sure you have the correct drivers for what ever OS

you are running. If you do that you will have no problems at all.

 

I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack.

ok good for you

 

but the way you posted your post is like its trying to bait people in a

flamewar

if vista is good or not. Why are you doing that sort of thing?

So who is the troll?

 

 

 

 

 

"Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote in message

news:5164210A-95A8-4A42-BE47-BB3DBD98217B@microsoft.com...

> Just wanted to say I really like my vista.

> Since I have installed it, all my hardware works. No crashes, no problems

> at all.

> Just wanted to let people know there are thousands and thousands of us who

> use Vista every day and have little if any problems at all with it. The

> only trick to any OS is making sure you have the correct drivers for what

> ever OS you are running. If you do that you will have no problems at all.

>

> I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack.

>

In article <5164210A-95A8-4A42-BE47-BB3DBD98217B@microsoft.com>,

"Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

> Just wanted to say I really like my vista.

> Since I have installed it, all my hardware works. No crashes, no problems at

> all.

> Just wanted to let people know there are thousands and thousands of us who

> use Vista every day and have little if any problems at all with it. The only

> trick to any OS is making sure you have the correct drivers for what ever OS

> you are running. If you do that you will have no problems at all.

 

I'll second that. Running fine here also on 2 different machines, and

in VPC at work.

> I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack.

 

Yup.

 

Mike

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:36:01 -0700, "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>Just wanted to say I really like my vista.

>Since I have installed it, all my hardware works. No crashes, no problems at

>all.

>Just wanted to let people know there are thousands and thousands of us who

>use Vista every day and have little if any problems at all with it. The only

>trick to any OS is making sure you have the correct drivers for what ever OS

>you are running. If you do that you will have no problems at all.

>

>I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack.

 

You over simplify. Surprise, in general, I like Vista too. It simply

wasn't ready for public release. The likeliness of encountering

problems rises once you include more robust tasks. Many, I dare say

most of the fanboy crowd use their computer to only read email, surf

the web, play games and maybe once in a while work on some document or

spreadsheet. Heck, why shouldn't Vista work under those conditions

when it is loafing along? The harder you push Vista the more likely

you'll run into issues. That has been Microsoft's legacy from the

beginning.

 

You don't need to add a single driver to copy/move or delete a file.

Explain why so many people have reported how slow Vista is doing this

simple task and why many MVPs admit they have given up on Windows

Shell and use something else.

 

I'll be here waiting for a reply.

Good to see a positive, instead of negatives!

 

"Bob" wrote:

> Just wanted to say I really like my vista.

> Since I have installed it, all my hardware works. No crashes, no problems at

> all.

> Just wanted to let people know there are thousands and thousands of us who

> use Vista every day and have little if any problems at all with it. The only

> trick to any OS is making sure you have the correct drivers for what ever OS

> you are running. If you do that you will have no problems at all.

>

> I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack.

>

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:rbh7a35pmimprfofmp95qnb85a1qe5b28f@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:36:01 -0700, "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>>Just wanted to say I really like my vista.

>>Since I have installed it, all my hardware works. No crashes, no problems

>>at

>>all.

>>Just wanted to let people know there are thousands and thousands of us who

>>use Vista every day and have little if any problems at all with it. The

>>only

>>trick to any OS is making sure you have the correct drivers for what ever

>>OS

>>you are running. If you do that you will have no problems at all.

>>

>>I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack.

>

> You over simplify. Surprise, in general, I like Vista too. It simply

> wasn't ready for public release. The likeliness of encountering

> problems rises once you include more robust tasks. Many, I dare say

> most of the fanboy crowd use their computer to only read email, surf

> the web, play games and maybe once in a while work on some document or

> spreadsheet. Heck, why shouldn't Vista work under those conditions

> when it is loafing along? The harder you push Vista the more likely

> you'll run into issues. That has been Microsoft's legacy from the

> beginning.

>

> You don't need to add a single driver to copy/move or delete a file.

> Explain why so many people have reported how slow Vista is doing this

> simple task and why many MVPs admit they have given up on Windows

> Shell and use something else.

>

> I'll be here waiting for a reply.

>

 

I just created a folder on a local drive and a folder on a network share.

Copied 20 music albums to both locations in about 90 seconds.

Deleted both folders with no delays at all.

So it seems to work fine for me. Don't know what others are doing all I can

do is speak for what my hands-on experience tells me.

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:22:52 -0700, "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>news:rbh7a35pmimprfofmp95qnb85a1qe5b28f@4ax.com...

>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:36:01 -0700, "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>>

>>>Just wanted to say I really like my vista.

>>>Since I have installed it, all my hardware works. No crashes, no problems

>>>at

>>>all.

>>>Just wanted to let people know there are thousands and thousands of us who

>>>use Vista every day and have little if any problems at all with it. The

>>>only

>>>trick to any OS is making sure you have the correct drivers for what ever

>>>OS

>>>you are running. If you do that you will have no problems at all.

>>>

>>>I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack.

>>

>> You over simplify. Surprise, in general, I like Vista too. It simply

>> wasn't ready for public release. The likeliness of encountering

>> problems rises once you include more robust tasks. Many, I dare say

>> most of the fanboy crowd use their computer to only read email, surf

>> the web, play games and maybe once in a while work on some document or

>> spreadsheet. Heck, why shouldn't Vista work under those conditions

>> when it is loafing along? The harder you push Vista the more likely

>> you'll run into issues. That has been Microsoft's legacy from the

>> beginning.

>>

>> You don't need to add a single driver to copy/move or delete a file.

>> Explain why so many people have reported how slow Vista is doing this

>> simple task and why many MVPs admit they have given up on Windows

>> Shell and use something else.

>>

>> I'll be here waiting for a reply.

>>

>

>I just created a folder on a local drive and a folder on a network share.

>Copied 20 music albums to both locations in about 90 seconds.

>Deleted both folders with no delays at all.

>So it seems to work fine for me. Don't know what others are doing all I can

>do is speak for what my hands-on experience tells me.

 

The works fine for me excuse doesn't cut it.

 

Look here:

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=calculating+time+remaining+Vista&spell=1

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:55:48 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <5164210A-95A8-4A42-BE47-BB3DBD98217B@microsoft.com>,

> "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>> Just wanted to say I really like my vista.

>> Since I have installed it, all my hardware works. No crashes, no problems at

>> all.

>> Just wanted to let people know there are thousands and thousands of us who

>> use Vista every day and have little if any problems at all with it. The only

>> trick to any OS is making sure you have the correct drivers for what ever OS

>> you are running. If you do that you will have no problems at all.

>

>I'll second that. Running fine here also on 2 different machines, and

>in VPC at work.

>

>> I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack.

>

>Yup.

>

>Mike

 

The so-called "trolls" are typically WAY smarter than the fanboy

crowd.

 

You want me to say something nice about Vista?

 

Damn pretty packaging it comes in!

In article <E9135335-EA1F-43E5-A1E6-A3F096B5F644@microsoft.com>,

"Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

> I just created a folder on a local drive and a folder on a network share.

> Copied 20 music albums to both locations in about 90 seconds.

> Deleted both folders with no delays at all.

> So it seems to work fine for me. Don't know what others are doing all I can

> do is speak for what my hands-on experience tells me.

 

I've already been down this road with "Adam Albright". For relatively

small amounts of data, it works fine. When you get to larger amounts

(5 or 7 or 10 Gig) Vista is slightly slower than, say, OS X copying the

same stuff on the same hardware. Also, the "time remaining" thing does

*not* pop up "instantly". In my case it always took around 7 seconds.

 

To "Adam Albright", this means that Vista is "seriously broken". I

suppose if your job is to sit around and copy huge amounts of data

across networks all day long, it could be an issue.

 

Otherwise, it's just something for the "Adam Albrights" of the world to

complain about.

 

Mike

In article <rej7a3dpj2u5qk18pecpcqu78ges2np1o1@4ax.com>,

Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

> The works fine for me excuse doesn't cut it.

 

So why is the "It doesn't work for me" excuse valid?

 

Mike

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:43:21 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <E9135335-EA1F-43E5-A1E6-A3F096B5F644@microsoft.com>,

> "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>> I just created a folder on a local drive and a folder on a network share.

>> Copied 20 music albums to both locations in about 90 seconds.

>> Deleted both folders with no delays at all.

>> So it seems to work fine for me. Don't know what others are doing all I can

>> do is speak for what my hands-on experience tells me.

>

>I've already been down this road with "Adam Albright". For relatively

>small amounts of data, it works fine. When you get to larger amounts

>(5 or 7 or 10 Gig) Vista is slightly slower than, say, OS X copying the

>same stuff on the same hardware. Also, the "time remaining" thing does

>*not* pop up "instantly". In my case it always took around 7 seconds.

>

>To "Adam Albright", this means that Vista is "seriously broken". I

>suppose if your job is to sit around and copy huge amounts of data

>across networks all day long, it could be an issue.

>

>Otherwise, it's just something for the "Adam Albrights" of the world to

>complain about.

>

>Mike

 

Spoken like a true fanboy. Damn Mike, you really should get Microsoft

to pay you for being an apologist. Next time I run into Billy G, I'll

mention you're a good little solider. -)

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:rej7a3dpj2u5qk18pecpcqu78ges2np1o1@4ax.com...

>>I just created a folder on a local drive and a folder on a network share.

>>Copied 20 music albums to both locations in about 90 seconds.

>>Deleted both folders with no delays at all.

>>So it seems to work fine for me. Don't know what others are doing all I

>>can

>>do is speak for what my hands-on experience tells me.

>

> The works fine for me excuse doesn't cut it.

>

 

Why not?

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:46:53 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <rej7a3dpj2u5qk18pecpcqu78ges2np1o1@4ax.com>,

> Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>

>> The works fine for me excuse doesn't cut it.

>

>So why is the "It doesn't work for me" excuse valid?

>

>Mike

 

Because it doesn't work for all people. Get it yet?

 

I mean come on, how much proof you need? Do your own Google research.

Just in a few minutes I found all kinds of forums, blogs, web pages

where people are bitching about this same issue. Are you saying

hundreds of thousands of people are all wrong and you are right?

 

So say so then. I can always use a good laugh.

 

Here's just one. The irony of the source. A Microsoft site.

 

http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/showpost.aspx?postid=1358057&siteid=17&sb=0&d=1&at=7&ft=11&tf=0&pageid=5

and that from our resident WHINER

 

WHINE, WHINE, WHINE

 

 

 

 

mikeyhsd@comcast.net

 

 

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message news:sjj7a3d44o7rkgqhgcb3sgilr7o4pa8jd8@4ax.com...

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:55:48 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <5164210A-95A8-4A42-BE47-BB3DBD98217B@microsoft.com>,

> "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>> Just wanted to say I really like my vista.

>> Since I have installed it, all my hardware works. No crashes, no problems at

>> all.

>> Just wanted to let people know there are thousands and thousands of us who

>> use Vista every day and have little if any problems at all with it. The only

>> trick to any OS is making sure you have the correct drivers for what ever OS

>> you are running. If you do that you will have no problems at all.

>

>I'll second that. Running fine here also on 2 different machines, and

>in VPC at work.

>

>> I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack.

>

>Yup.

>

>Mike

 

The so-called "trolls" are typically WAY smarter than the fanboy

crowd.

 

You want me to say something nice about Vista?

 

Damn pretty packaging it comes in!

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:h7l7a31ampm0s8j8pm8nnhpdbf0nvko8bq@4ax.com...

> Spoken like a true fanboy. Damn Mike, you really should get Microsoft

> to pay you for being an apologist. Next time I run into Billy G, I'll

> mention you're a good little solider. -)

>

 

I don't understand why you have to lower yourself to name-calling?

Maybe you could try to carry on a intelligent conversations about what you

see as major problems with Vista.

Adam...I am really curious to know specifically what is giving your machine

a problem ??What programs ??or what files ??

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:rbh7a35pmimprfofmp95qnb85a1qe5b28f@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:36:01 -0700, "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>>Just wanted to say I really like my vista.

>>Since I have installed it, all my hardware works. No crashes, no problems

>>at

>>all.

>>Just wanted to let people know there are thousands and thousands of us who

>>use Vista every day and have little if any problems at all with it. The

>>only

>>trick to any OS is making sure you have the correct drivers for what ever

>>OS

>>you are running. If you do that you will have no problems at all.

>>

>>I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack.

>

> You over simplify. Surprise, in general, I like Vista too. It simply

> wasn't ready for public release. The likeliness of encountering

> problems rises once you include more robust tasks. Many, I dare say

> most of the fanboy crowd use their computer to only read email, surf

> the web, play games and maybe once in a while work on some document or

> spreadsheet. Heck, why shouldn't Vista work under those conditions

> when it is loafing along? The harder you push Vista the more likely

> you'll run into issues. That has been Microsoft's legacy from the

> beginning.

>

> You don't need to add a single driver to copy/move or delete a file.

> Explain why so many people have reported how slow Vista is doing this

> simple task and why many MVPs admit they have given up on Windows

> Shell and use something else.

>

> I'll be here waiting for a reply.

>

In article <kal7a3p427g6kg38ligacs0jcbkec0e7b2@4ax.com>,

Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:46:53 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>

> >In article <rej7a3dpj2u5qk18pecpcqu78ges2np1o1@4ax.com>,

> > Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

> >

> >> The works fine for me excuse doesn't cut it.

> >

> >So why is the "It doesn't work for me" excuse valid?

> >

> >Mike

>

> Because it doesn't work for all people. Get it yet?

>

> I mean come on, how much proof you need? Do your own Google research.

> Just in a few minutes I found all kinds of forums, blogs, web pages

> where people are bitching about this same issue. Are you saying

> hundreds of thousands of people are all wrong and you are right?

 

No, I'm saying they are not representative of the millions of people who

*aren't* having problems. The people who *aren't* having problems

aren't likely to post that they are not having problems, are they?

 

Do you walk into a doctor's office and conclude "Wow, everyone in this

town must have some disease! Look at all these people looking for

help!"

 

Mike

In article <h7l7a31ampm0s8j8pm8nnhpdbf0nvko8bq@4ax.com>,

Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

> Spoken like a true fanboy. Damn Mike, you really should get Microsoft

> to pay you for being an apologist. Next time I run into Billy G, I'll

> mention you're a good little solider. -)

 

Yeah, I'm *such* an MS fanboy I do 90% of my posting from OS X!

 

Get a clue.

 

Mike

In article <28F56727-CE96-4E92-9001-A6B72D7EA7A8@microsoft.com>,

"Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

> news:rej7a3dpj2u5qk18pecpcqu78ges2np1o1@4ax.com...

> >>I just created a folder on a local drive and a folder on a network share.

> >>Copied 20 music albums to both locations in about 90 seconds.

> >>Deleted both folders with no delays at all.

> >>So it seems to work fine for me. Don't know what others are doing all I

> >>can

> >>do is speak for what my hands-on experience tells me.

> >

> > The works fine for me excuse doesn't cut it.

> >

>

> Why not?

 

Because it doesn't work for *him*. Therefore, it's "seriously broken".

 

And, and, and, he can point to a bazillion postings on Google asking for

help. Of course, no one posts when one has no problems to report.

But that hasn't occurred to mister "170 IQ".

 

Mike

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:25:05 -0700, "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>news:h7l7a31ampm0s8j8pm8nnhpdbf0nvko8bq@4ax.com...

>> Spoken like a true fanboy. Damn Mike, you really should get Microsoft

>> to pay you for being an apologist. Next time I run into Billy G, I'll

>> mention you're a good little solider. -)

>>

>

>I don't understand why you have to lower yourself to name-calling?

>Maybe you could try to carry on a intelligent conversations about what you

>see as major problems with Vista.

 

That from the guy that implied I was too dumb to build a color tv. I

start out trying to have intelligent conversations and you're the

typical result. I can out debate you, you know it, so YOU start to act

up in some feeble attempt to try to save face. That's the fanboy MO.

Bob wrote:

>

> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

> news:h7l7a31ampm0s8j8pm8nnhpdbf0nvko8bq@4ax.com...

>

>> Spoken like a true fanboy. Damn Mike, you really should get Microsoft

>> to pay you for being an apologist. Next time I run into Billy G, I'll

>> mention you're a good little solider. -)

>>

>

> I don't understand why you have to lower yourself to name-calling?

> Maybe you could try to carry on a intelligent conversations about what

> you see as major problems with Vista.

>

Fat chance of that ever happening!

Frank

Mike wrote:

> In article <kal7a3p427g6kg38ligacs0jcbkec0e7b2@4ax.com>,

> Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>

>

>>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:46:53 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>>

>>

>>>In article <rej7a3dpj2u5qk18pecpcqu78ges2np1o1@4ax.com>,

>>>Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>The works fine for me excuse doesn't cut it.

>>>

>>>So why is the "It doesn't work for me" excuse valid?

>>>

>>>Mike

>>

>>Because it doesn't work for all people. Get it yet?

>>

>>I mean come on, how much proof you need? Do your own Google research.

>>Just in a few minutes I found all kinds of forums, blogs, web pages

>>where people are bitching about this same issue. Are you saying

>>hundreds of thousands of people are all wrong and you are right?

>

>

> No, I'm saying they are not representative of the millions of people who

> *aren't* having problems. The people who *aren't* having problems

> aren't likely to post that they are not having problems, are they?

>

> Do you walk into a doctor's office and conclude "Wow, everyone in this

> town must have some disease! Look at all these people looking for

> help!"

>

> Mike

 

Of course he does. If he can't get Vista to run correctly then nobody

can get Vista running properly.

He's mr genius you know...hahaha!

Frank

Adam Albright wrote:

 

>

> That from the guy that implied I was too dumb to build a color tv.

 

Ever build one?

 

 

I can out debate you...

 

You couldn't out debate a dead minkie...

 

 

so YOU start to act up in some feeble attempt to try to save face.

That's the fanboy MO.

 

This is your always "go to" argument you use whenever you're cornered or

put in your place.

Grow up!

Frank

In article <6mn7a398jpi82suucdjkqt9ndbrhl7ft0c@4ax.com>,

Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

> That from the guy that implied I was too dumb to build a color tv. I

> start out trying to have intelligent conversations and you're the

> typical result. I can out debate you, you know it, so YOU start to act

> up in some feeble attempt to try to save face. That's the fanboy MO.

 

NO ONE said you were too dumb to build a color TV.

 

Now, comparing a color TV to a modern computer OS *is* dumb!

 

Mike

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:40:35 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

wrote:

>Adam...I am really curious to know specifically what is giving your machine

>a problem ??What programs ??or what files ??

 

Where did I say I am having problems? I'm REPORTING on a problem many

people have. There's a difference. Heck, I'm the one that offered two

fixes for the calculating time remaining issue. The fanboy crowd don't

like anybody pointing out flaws in Vista. It bugs them so causing them

to go into one of their typical tirades.

 

You'll notice the OP ended out with a taunt...

 

"I'm sure that usual trolls will now attack."

 

It should be increasingly obvious who the REAL trolls are that hang

out in this newsgroup. They don't want discussion, they are here to

defend Microsoft and make excuses for them and they try to shout down

anybody that stands up to them. Why, you'll have to ask them.

 

The sad thing about newsgroups like this is they are infested with

people that love to point their finger. They're usual excuses for

people having problems are transparent and often bogus.

 

1. User's fault.

2. A driver issue.

3. Outdated hardware.

4. Incompatible software.

 

You'll notice anytime anybody discusses problems obviously exclusive

to the operating system itself like the calculating time remaining

issue, the fanboy club is the one attacking and typically say they

don't have that problem, implying anybody that does must be some kind

of idiot.

 

The only reasonable conclusion is there are two camps of posters.

Those asking questions looking for serious answers and people

responding to them simply to help and then there are the finger

pointers that get off being Microsoft apologists.

 

Pretty silly state of affairs. :-(