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July 21, 200717 yr

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Gary wrote:

>>

>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>> news:%23v$a1ayyHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>> Gary wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>> news:Oi3JbtuyHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I

>>>>>>>> call Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

>>>>>>> Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

>>>>>> False.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Windows 95 had how many version updates? 3?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Windows 98 and then Windows 98SE

>>>>>>

>>>>>> XP and SP2

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Ill informed drivel snipped.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>> WOW only 3 how many versions has UBUNTU had like 100 or so. Well

>>>>> maybe they will get it in about 20 or so years.

>>>> LOL! Not the same thing, sorry.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> Oh I forgot about your double standard.

>>>

>> Ubuntu comes out with a new stable build every six months for free. MS

>> comes out with buggy betas and foists them on the public for a high

>> price. If you read the Ubuntu forums, the questions are about how to use

>> or configure Ubuntu not "OE lost all my messages" or "My computer keeps

>> rebooting" like with XP and Vista. See the difference or are you blind?

>>

>> I've been using Ubuntu now for over nine months and I've been using XP

>> Pro SP2 with all the updates except WGA/N since '02 and I have to say

>> that Ubuntu is much more solid and much more of a pleasure to use.

>>

>> Alias

>

> You're an admitted liar! Go spread your stupid, insidious lies somewhere

> else.

> BTW, got that phone number yet?

> Lying linux lose.

> Frank

This is for you, Frank: 1-800-GET-HELP

-Michael

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July 21, 200717 yr

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Gary wrote:

>>

>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>> news:%23v$a1ayyHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>> Gary wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>> news:Oi3JbtuyHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I

>>>>>>>> call Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

>>>>>>> Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

>>>>>> False.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Windows 95 had how many version updates? 3?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Windows 98 and then Windows 98SE

>>>>>>

>>>>>> XP and SP2

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Ill informed drivel snipped.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>> WOW only 3 how many versions has UBUNTU had like 100 or so. Well

>>>>> maybe they will get it in about 20 or so years.

>>>> LOL! Not the same thing, sorry.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> Oh I forgot about your double standard.

>>>

>> Ubuntu comes out with a new stable build every six months for free. MS

>> comes out with buggy betas and foists them on the public for a high

>> price. If you read the Ubuntu forums, the questions are about how to use

>> or configure Ubuntu not "OE lost all my messages" or "My computer keeps

>> rebooting" like with XP and Vista. See the difference or are you blind?

>>

>> I've been using Ubuntu now for over nine months and I've been using XP

>> Pro SP2 with all the updates except WGA/N since '02 and I have to say

>> that Ubuntu is much more solid and much more of a pleasure to use.

>>

>> Alias

>

> You're an admitted liar! Go spread your stupid, insidious lies somewhere

> else.

> BTW, got that phone number yet?

> Lying linux lose.

> Frank

This is for you, Frank: 1-800-GET-HELP

-Michael

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July 21, 200717 yr

I don't see it this way at all. Seems to me most learned their lesson with

XP and drivers for Vista are more available than they were for XP when it

was this far out of the gate.

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>

> I've actually been curious about this. I realize that some of Vista's

> problems are related to third-party developers, but why is this so? Why

> is

> it that they've taken so long to get properly functioning drivers out for

> Vista? Vista was in final beta and RC mode for quite a long time, more

> than enough time for hardware developers. It would seem to be in their

> best

> interest to create functional drivers for Vista for it's release. Are

> drivers that much more difficult to create for Vista? Is MS not providing

> enough information to developers to create proper drivers?

>

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July 21, 200717 yr

I don't see it this way at all. Seems to me most learned their lesson with

XP and drivers for Vista are more available than they were for XP when it

was this far out of the gate.

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"GO" <aa533@remove.this.chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message

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>

> I've actually been curious about this. I realize that some of Vista's

> problems are related to third-party developers, but why is this so? Why

> is

> it that they've taken so long to get properly functioning drivers out for

> Vista? Vista was in final beta and RC mode for quite a long time, more

> than enough time for hardware developers. It would seem to be in their

> best

> interest to create functional drivers for Vista for it's release. Are

> drivers that much more difficult to create for Vista? Is MS not providing

> enough information to developers to create proper drivers?

>

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July 21, 200717 yr

MICHAEL wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Gary wrote:

>>>

>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23v$a1ayyHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>> Gary wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:Oi3JbtuyHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I

>>>>>>>>> call Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

>>>>>>>> Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

>>>>>>> False.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Windows 95 had how many version updates? 3?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Windows 98 and then Windows 98SE

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> XP and SP2

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Ill informed drivel snipped.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>> WOW only 3 how many versions has UBUNTU had like 100 or so. Well

>>>>>> maybe they will get it in about 20 or so years.

>>>>> LOL! Not the same thing, sorry.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>> Oh I forgot about your double standard.

>>>>

>>> Ubuntu comes out with a new stable build every six months for free. MS

>>> comes out with buggy betas and foists them on the public for a high

>>> price. If you read the Ubuntu forums, the questions are about how to use

>>> or configure Ubuntu not "OE lost all my messages" or "My computer keeps

>>> rebooting" like with XP and Vista. See the difference or are you blind?

>>>

>>> I've been using Ubuntu now for over nine months and I've been using XP

>>> Pro SP2 with all the updates except WGA/N since '02 and I have to say

>>> that Ubuntu is much more solid and much more of a pleasure to use.

>>>

>>> Alias

>> You're an admitted liar! Go spread your stupid, insidious lies somewhere

>> else.

>> BTW, got that phone number yet?

>> Lying linux lose.

>> Frank

>

> This is for you, Frank: 1-800-GET-HELP

>

> -Michael

Really!

Alias

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July 21, 200717 yr

MICHAEL wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Gary wrote:

>>>

>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23v$a1ayyHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>> Gary wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:Oi3JbtuyHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I

>>>>>>>>> call Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

>>>>>>>> Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

>>>>>>> False.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Windows 95 had how many version updates? 3?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Windows 98 and then Windows 98SE

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> XP and SP2

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Ill informed drivel snipped.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>> WOW only 3 how many versions has UBUNTU had like 100 or so. Well

>>>>>> maybe they will get it in about 20 or so years.

>>>>> LOL! Not the same thing, sorry.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>> Oh I forgot about your double standard.

>>>>

>>> Ubuntu comes out with a new stable build every six months for free. MS

>>> comes out with buggy betas and foists them on the public for a high

>>> price. If you read the Ubuntu forums, the questions are about how to use

>>> or configure Ubuntu not "OE lost all my messages" or "My computer keeps

>>> rebooting" like with XP and Vista. See the difference or are you blind?

>>>

>>> I've been using Ubuntu now for over nine months and I've been using XP

>>> Pro SP2 with all the updates except WGA/N since '02 and I have to say

>>> that Ubuntu is much more solid and much more of a pleasure to use.

>>>

>>> Alias

>> You're an admitted liar! Go spread your stupid, insidious lies somewhere

>> else.

>> BTW, got that phone number yet?

>> Lying linux lose.

>> Frank

>

> This is for you, Frank: 1-800-GET-HELP

>

> -Michael

Really!

Alias

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July 21, 200717 yr

MICHAEL wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>>Alias wrote:

>>

>>>Gary wrote:

>>>

>>>>"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>news:%23v$a1ayyHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>>Gary wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>>news:Oi3JbtuyHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I

>>>>>>>>>call Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>False.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Windows 95 had how many version updates? 3?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Windows 98 and then Windows 98SE

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>XP and SP2

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Ill informed drivel snipped.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>>WOW only 3 how many versions has UBUNTU had like 100 or so. Well

>>>>>>maybe they will get it in about 20 or so years.

>>>>>

>>>>>LOL! Not the same thing, sorry.

>>>>>

>>>>>Alias

>>>>

>>>>Oh I forgot about your double standard.

>>>>

>>>

>>>Ubuntu comes out with a new stable build every six months for free. MS

>>>comes out with buggy betas and foists them on the public for a high

>>>price. If you read the Ubuntu forums, the questions are about how to use

>>>or configure Ubuntu not "OE lost all my messages" or "My computer keeps

>>>rebooting" like with XP and Vista. See the difference or are you blind?

>>>

>>>I've been using Ubuntu now for over nine months and I've been using XP

>>>Pro SP2 with all the updates except WGA/N since '02 and I have to say

>>>that Ubuntu is much more solid and much more of a pleasure to use.

>>>

>>>Alias

>>

>>You're an admitted liar! Go spread your stupid, insidious lies somewhere

>>else.

>>BTW, got that phone number yet?

>>Lying linux lose.

>>Frank

>

> This is for you, Frank: 1-800-GET-HELP

>

> -Michael

So michael, that absolves alias from his lying ways?

I don't think so!

Frank

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July 21, 200717 yr

MICHAEL wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>>Alias wrote:

>>

>>>Gary wrote:

>>>

>>>>"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>news:%23v$a1ayyHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>>Gary wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>>news:Oi3JbtuyHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I

>>>>>>>>>call Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>False.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Windows 95 had how many version updates? 3?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Windows 98 and then Windows 98SE

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>XP and SP2

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Ill informed drivel snipped.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>>WOW only 3 how many versions has UBUNTU had like 100 or so. Well

>>>>>>maybe they will get it in about 20 or so years.

>>>>>

>>>>>LOL! Not the same thing, sorry.

>>>>>

>>>>>Alias

>>>>

>>>>Oh I forgot about your double standard.

>>>>

>>>

>>>Ubuntu comes out with a new stable build every six months for free. MS

>>>comes out with buggy betas and foists them on the public for a high

>>>price. If you read the Ubuntu forums, the questions are about how to use

>>>or configure Ubuntu not "OE lost all my messages" or "My computer keeps

>>>rebooting" like with XP and Vista. See the difference or are you blind?

>>>

>>>I've been using Ubuntu now for over nine months and I've been using XP

>>>Pro SP2 with all the updates except WGA/N since '02 and I have to say

>>>that Ubuntu is much more solid and much more of a pleasure to use.

>>>

>>>Alias

>>

>>You're an admitted liar! Go spread your stupid, insidious lies somewhere

>>else.

>>BTW, got that phone number yet?

>>Lying linux lose.

>>Frank

>

> This is for you, Frank: 1-800-GET-HELP

>

> -Michael

So michael, that absolves alias from his lying ways?

I don't think so!

Frank

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July 21, 200717 yr

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:27:13 -0700, Frank wrote:

> ray wrote:

>

>> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:59:06 -0700, Frank wrote:

>>

>>>ray wrote:

>>>

>>>>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:59:31 -0700, Henry wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>Really!

>>>>>No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works

>>>>>perfectly including my old custom stuff from W95 days. Speed is

>>>>>about the same as XP. Vista repairs itself, defrags the drive,

>>>>>protects my work, solves problems on its own. The sidebar has

>>>>>seriously useful gadgets that make life easier. Files and

>>>>>folders are now easier to find, in any of several ways.

>>>>>

>>>>>I came by looking for more joy, gadgets, exploitation stories,

>>>>>and high fives -- and learned that people happy with Vista don't

>>>>>waste time here. That leaves the rest...

>>>>

>>>>I'm glad it works for you. Judging by the volume you may be in the

>>>>minority.

>>>>

>>>

>>>Only if you can't count!

>>>Frank

>>

>> Come on frankie, don't get your panties in a twist. I said he/she 'may be

>> in the minority' - if you can prove otherwise, I'd be interested to see it.

>>

>

> Which part upset you...the panties or the minority...?

> :-)

> Frank

I'm not upset, frankie, I simply realize that you seem to have problems

with comprehension, so I thought I'd try to spell it out for you.

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July 21, 200717 yr

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:27:13 -0700, Frank wrote:

> ray wrote:

>

>> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:59:06 -0700, Frank wrote:

>>

>>>ray wrote:

>>>

>>>>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:59:31 -0700, Henry wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>Really!

>>>>>No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works

>>>>>perfectly including my old custom stuff from W95 days. Speed is

>>>>>about the same as XP. Vista repairs itself, defrags the drive,

>>>>>protects my work, solves problems on its own. The sidebar has

>>>>>seriously useful gadgets that make life easier. Files and

>>>>>folders are now easier to find, in any of several ways.

>>>>>

>>>>>I came by looking for more joy, gadgets, exploitation stories,

>>>>>and high fives -- and learned that people happy with Vista don't

>>>>>waste time here. That leaves the rest...

>>>>

>>>>I'm glad it works for you. Judging by the volume you may be in the

>>>>minority.

>>>>

>>>

>>>Only if you can't count!

>>>Frank

>>

>> Come on frankie, don't get your panties in a twist. I said he/she 'may be

>> in the minority' - if you can prove otherwise, I'd be interested to see it.

>>

>

> Which part upset you...the panties or the minority...?

> :-)

> Frank

I'm not upset, frankie, I simply realize that you seem to have problems

with comprehension, so I thought I'd try to spell it out for you.

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July 21, 200717 yr

* Frank:

> MICHAEL wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Gary wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%23v$a1ayyHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>>> Gary wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:Oi3JbtuyHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I

>>>>>>>>>> call Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

>>>>>>>>> Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

>>>>>>>> False.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Windows 95 had how many version updates? 3?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Windows 98 and then Windows 98SE

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> XP and SP2

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Ill informed drivel snipped.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>> WOW only 3 how many versions has UBUNTU had like 100 or so. Well

>>>>>>> maybe they will get it in about 20 or so years.

>>>>>> LOL! Not the same thing, sorry.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>> Oh I forgot about your double standard.

>>>>>

>>>> Ubuntu comes out with a new stable build every six months for free. MS

>>>> comes out with buggy betas and foists them on the public for a high

>>>> price. If you read the Ubuntu forums, the questions are about how to use

>>>> or configure Ubuntu not "OE lost all my messages" or "My computer keeps

>>>> rebooting" like with XP and Vista. See the difference or are you blind?

>>>>

>>>> I've been using Ubuntu now for over nine months and I've been using XP

>>>> Pro SP2 with all the updates except WGA/N since '02 and I have to say

>>>> that Ubuntu is much more solid and much more of a pleasure to use.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>> You're an admitted liar! Go spread your stupid, insidious lies somewhere

>>> else.

>>> BTW, got that phone number yet?

>>> Lying linux lose.

>>> Frank

>>

>> This is for you, Frank: 1-800-GET-HELP

>

> So michael, that absolves alias from his lying ways?

> I don't think so!

> Frank

Absolution is a personal matter.

-Michael

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July 21, 200717 yr

* Frank:

> MICHAEL wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Gary wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%23v$a1ayyHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>>> Gary wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:Oi3JbtuyHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I

>>>>>>>>>> call Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

>>>>>>>>> Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

>>>>>>>> False.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Windows 95 had how many version updates? 3?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Windows 98 and then Windows 98SE

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> XP and SP2

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Ill informed drivel snipped.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>> WOW only 3 how many versions has UBUNTU had like 100 or so. Well

>>>>>>> maybe they will get it in about 20 or so years.

>>>>>> LOL! Not the same thing, sorry.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>> Oh I forgot about your double standard.

>>>>>

>>>> Ubuntu comes out with a new stable build every six months for free. MS

>>>> comes out with buggy betas and foists them on the public for a high

>>>> price. If you read the Ubuntu forums, the questions are about how to use

>>>> or configure Ubuntu not "OE lost all my messages" or "My computer keeps

>>>> rebooting" like with XP and Vista. See the difference or are you blind?

>>>>

>>>> I've been using Ubuntu now for over nine months and I've been using XP

>>>> Pro SP2 with all the updates except WGA/N since '02 and I have to say

>>>> that Ubuntu is much more solid and much more of a pleasure to use.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>> You're an admitted liar! Go spread your stupid, insidious lies somewhere

>>> else.

>>> BTW, got that phone number yet?

>>> Lying linux lose.

>>> Frank

>>

>> This is for you, Frank: 1-800-GET-HELP

>

> So michael, that absolves alias from his lying ways?

> I don't think so!

> Frank

Absolution is a personal matter.

-Michael

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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:18:23 -0500, "GO"

<aa533@remove.this.chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:

>Frank wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I call

>>> Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

>>

>> Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

>> Here's the problem junior...drivers...software/hardware manufacturers

>> have literally had years to develop drivers for Vista for their

>> products. Yet at Vista's RTM many major software/hardware

>> manufacturers were just beginning to develop and release drivers for

>> Vista.

>> As a prime example, Nvidia video drivers have been notoriously bad for

>> months after Vista went RTM and are still somewhat buggy.

>> So the only beta testing Vista owners are doing is mainly for the

>> crappy drivers from software/hardware manufacturers.

>> Same thing goes on with every newly released os, Windows, Mac, linux

>> all of them.

>> Problem is, Windows owns the desktop market so bad drivers affect more

>> users.

>> Frank

>>

>

>I've actually been curious about this. I realize that some of Vista's

>problems are related to third-party developers, but why is this so? Why is

>it that they've taken so long to get properly functioning drivers out for

>Vista? Vista was in final beta and RC mode for quite a long time, more

>than enough time for hardware developers. It would seem to be in their best

>interest to create functional drivers for Vista for it's release. Are

>drivers that much more difficult to create for Vista? Is MS not providing

>enough information to developers to create proper drivers?

The problem any developer will tell you is Microsoft has a nasty habit

of making changes to the soon to be released "final" version of

Windows at the last minute which has caught third party vendors flat

footed.

One example in this round was Roxio's Easy Media Creator 9 suite, a

popular DVD burning package. They had a feature called 'drag and

drop', it had been tested and PASSED testing then when the public

"final" version of Vista was released it broke this feature causing

Easy Media to cause Vista to generate a error message, while it didn't

effect performance of the rest of the suite of applications. This is

classic Microsoft. Explains why a lot of majors like Adobe, Epson, HP

for many of their printers have in effect given Vista the cold

shoulder treatment at least until things settle down