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Microsoft has a track record of supporting two or more versions of *home*

and two or more versions of NT-type Server/Client systems, all at the same

time. Vista was pushed because Win98SE is no longer supported, not XP!

 

"carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message

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> >but is *not* a replacement to Win XP

>

> Huh??? Not even for XP "home"??? lol.

>

> is that what you saw in your crystal ball?

>

>

>

> "KristleBawl" wrote in message...

>> What you two seem to forget is that Vista is designed for home use, not

>> app-intensive business networking, etc.

>>

>> Vista follows the Win95, Win98, WinME line, *not* the NT family of work

>> horse network client machines.

>>

>> It replaces Win98, WinME and earlier, but is *not* a replacement to Win

>> XP. It's another option, a choice.

>>

>> Geeks can fiddle around more with Linux, office networks run on a server

>> OS and NT-type clents, but the bells and whistles, the eye candy, and the

>> extra toys are aimed at ordinary consumers running Internet and

>> entertainment, and maybe word and calculator for the kids to do homework.

>> No one ever claimed it was the one sized fits all power users OS of the

>> future, just the "most secure version of Windows so far," as long as you

>> add a decent AV.

>>

>> Think about it! It's designed to protect the *naive* user from

>> "installing" something just by visiting a website advertised in a popup.

>>

>> Why would anyone with advanced experience expect it to be the same as any

>> other OS ever released? You need, want and expect something else, I

>> don't.

>>

>> I'll stick with Vista, thank you!

>>

>> "carl feredeck" wrote in message news:46a0bd6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>>I back up your experience with mine and what you say is 100% correct!

>>> They are using it either for a very limited number of things or using it

>>> as decoration as you say. Other than that.. its a jungle out there and

>>> vista is falling apart!

>>>

>>>

>>> "Adam Albright" wrote in message

>>>> My experience, people that claim they have no issues with Vista use

>>>> their computer for little more than a decoration on their desk. People

>>>> that actually use a computer in a serious work environment have

>>>> reported many verified issues with Vista.

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    Microsoft has a track record of supporting two or more versions of *home*

    and two or more versions of NT-type Server/Client systems, all at the same

    time. Vista was pushed because Win98SE is no longer supported, not XP!

     

    "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message

    news:46a0df92$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    > >but is *not* a replacement to Win XP

    >

    > Huh??? Not even for XP "home"??? lol.

    >

    > is that what you saw in your crystal ball?

    >

    >

    >

    > "KristleBawl" wrote in message...

    >> What you two seem to forget is that Vista is designed for home use, not

    >> app-intensive business networking, etc.

    >>

    >> Vista follows the Win95, Win98, WinME line, *not* the NT family of work

    >> horse network client machines.

    >>

    >> It replaces Win98, WinME and earlier, but is *not* a replacement to Win

    >> XP. It's another option, a choice.

    >>

    >> Geeks can fiddle around more with Linux, office networks run on a server

    >> OS and NT-type clents, but the bells and whistles, the eye candy, and the

    >> extra toys are aimed at ordinary consumers running Internet and

    >> entertainment, and maybe word and calculator for the kids to do homework.

    >> No one ever claimed it was the one sized fits all power users OS of the

    >> future, just the "most secure version of Windows so far," as long as you

    >> add a decent AV.

    >>

    >> Think about it! It's designed to protect the *naive* user from

    >> "installing" something just by visiting a website advertised in a popup.

    >>

    >> Why would anyone with advanced experience expect it to be the same as any

    >> other OS ever released? You need, want and expect something else, I

    >> don't.

    >>

    >> I'll stick with Vista, thank you!

    >>

    >> "carl feredeck" wrote in message news:46a0bd6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >>>I back up your experience with mine and what you say is 100% correct!

    >>> They are using it either for a very limited number of things or using it

    >>> as decoration as you say. Other than that.. its a jungle out there and

    >>> vista is falling apart!

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> "Adam Albright" wrote in message

    >>>> My experience, people that claim they have no issues with Vista use

    >>>> their computer for little more than a decoration on their desk. People

    >>>> that actually use a computer in a serious work environment have

    >>>> reported many verified issues with Vista.

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    Adam Albright wrote:

     

    >

    >

    > That from the clown that admitted it took him SIX MONTHS with the help

    > of "consultants" before he got Vista to run correctly.

    >

     

    Resorting to lying again georgie-boy? Never had one consultant for Vista

    come to my businesses. Not one. Of course you're so damned depressed

    over the fact that you're way to stupid to get your install of Vista

    running correctly you simply can't stand for everyone else to have done

    it, right?

    No more lies!

    > ROTFLMAO!

    >

     

    >

    >>Here's the problem junior...drivers...software/hardware manufacturers

    >>have literally had years to develop drivers for Vista for their

    >>products. Yet at Vista's RTM many major software/hardware manufacturers

    >>were just beginning to develop and release drivers for Vista.

    >

    >

    > That's because Microsoft has a bad habit of changing requirements at

    > the last minute causing work on drivers already completed to be

    > redone. Ask any developer.

     

    Now that's total bulls*it! Obviously, you've never, ever been in alpha

    or beta testing of any software.

    Frank

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    Adam Albright wrote:

     

    >

    >

    > That from the clown that admitted it took him SIX MONTHS with the help

    > of "consultants" before he got Vista to run correctly.

    >

     

    Resorting to lying again georgie-boy? Never had one consultant for Vista

    come to my businesses. Not one. Of course you're so damned depressed

    over the fact that you're way to stupid to get your install of Vista

    running correctly you simply can't stand for everyone else to have done

    it, right?

    No more lies!

    > ROTFLMAO!

    >

     

    >

    >>Here's the problem junior...drivers...software/hardware manufacturers

    >>have literally had years to develop drivers for Vista for their

    >>products. Yet at Vista's RTM many major software/hardware manufacturers

    >>were just beginning to develop and release drivers for Vista.

    >

    >

    > That's because Microsoft has a bad habit of changing requirements at

    > the last minute causing work on drivers already completed to be

    > redone. Ask any developer.

     

    Now that's total bulls*it! Obviously, you've never, ever been in alpha

    or beta testing of any software.

    Frank

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    Alias wrote:

    > Leo wrote:

    >

    >> Count me among the many more running Vista with no problems.

    >>

    >

    > You're still top posting.

    >

    > Alias

     

    And you're still lying.

    Frank

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    Alias wrote:

    > Leo wrote:

    >

    >> Count me among the many more running Vista with no problems.

    >>

    >

    > You're still top posting.

    >

    > Alias

     

    And you're still lying.

    Frank

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    Frank wrote:

    > Alias wrote:

    >

    >> Leo wrote:

    >>

    >>> Count me among the many more running Vista with no problems.

    >>>

    >>

    >> You're still top posting.

    >>

    >> Alias

    >

    > And you're still lying.

    > Frank

     

    Another lie from Frank.

     

    Alias

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    Frank wrote:

    > Alias wrote:

    >

    >> Leo wrote:

    >>

    >>> Count me among the many more running Vista with no problems.

    >>>

    >>

    >> You're still top posting.

    >>

    >> Alias

    >

    > And you're still lying.

    > Frank

     

    Another lie from Frank.

     

    Alias

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    AMEN! Mike, you hit the nail right on the head. The only way for MS to know

    what patches and drivers we need, they need to throw that new OS out there,

    recieve the error messages, work out the kinks, get together with whatever

    companies have product that failed on the new OS and develop the drivers.

    It's not like they pull them out of their asses and decide to hold out on

    you. I bet half of you don't even update your firmware initially and that

    could be part of your problem.

     

    Don't get me wrong, I love how informative these newsgroups are and a lot of

    you have some valuable information, but I am starting to forget if this NG

    is for help and information, or just bitching. Here's an idea, if you don't

    like something, go back to what works for you. Vista is great.

     

    -Ness

     

     

    "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message

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    > In article <ggd1a31id2rmm430omqlshge3ircq39jn7@4ax.com>,

    > Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

    >

    >> Microsoft in over twenty years of trying still hasn't been able to

    >> give the public an initial release of any version of Windows that

    >> wasn't flawed in several areas, desperately needing patches, fixes and

    >> major rewriting which happens six to nine months later in some service

    >> pak. Sorry if reality isn't your thing.

    >

    > That *is* the reality. Normal people accept it.

    >

    >> Now I return you to your fantasy world.

    >

    > The fantasy world is trolls like you who expect huge, complex software

    > packages (such as an OS) that must run on thousands of hardware

    > configurations all around the world to be perfect and bug free on

    > initial release.

    >

    > To anyone who has ever written/tested/marketed/supported *any* software

    > at all, you know this is simply not possible.

    >

    > Mike

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    AMEN! Mike, you hit the nail right on the head. The only way for MS to know

    what patches and drivers we need, they need to throw that new OS out there,

    recieve the error messages, work out the kinks, get together with whatever

    companies have product that failed on the new OS and develop the drivers.

    It's not like they pull them out of their asses and decide to hold out on

    you. I bet half of you don't even update your firmware initially and that

    could be part of your problem.

     

    Don't get me wrong, I love how informative these newsgroups are and a lot of

    you have some valuable information, but I am starting to forget if this NG

    is for help and information, or just bitching. Here's an idea, if you don't

    like something, go back to what works for you. Vista is great.

     

    -Ness

     

     

    "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message

    news:no-17AA53.09393320072007@news.supernews.com...

    > In article <ggd1a31id2rmm430omqlshge3ircq39jn7@4ax.com>,

    > Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

    >

    >> Microsoft in over twenty years of trying still hasn't been able to

    >> give the public an initial release of any version of Windows that

    >> wasn't flawed in several areas, desperately needing patches, fixes and

    >> major rewriting which happens six to nine months later in some service

    >> pak. Sorry if reality isn't your thing.

    >

    > That *is* the reality. Normal people accept it.

    >

    >> Now I return you to your fantasy world.

    >

    > The fantasy world is trolls like you who expect huge, complex software

    > packages (such as an OS) that must run on thousands of hardware

    > configurations all around the world to be perfect and bug free on

    > initial release.

    >

    > To anyone who has ever written/tested/marketed/supported *any* software

    > at all, you know this is simply not possible.

    >

    > Mike

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    I have been in computing since the 1950s (vacuum tubes, magnetic

    donut memory). For most of my years, everything in a system was

    made by one company - the computer, accessories, peripherals,

    software, etc., and that company trained operators, who were

    generally "programmers".

     

    For a computer to run today, it must be compatible with an

    astonishing spectrum of processors, mother boards, peripherals,

    and software made by diverse people and companies ranging from

    geniuses to incompetent, working in many different communication

    and programming languages. And to further complicate things,

    there are smart but emotionally troubled people who deliberately

    seek to screw up such systems with various sorts of malware!

     

    Today's users range from two years old up to my age, and I'm not

    certain which age group has more skills. There probably are two

    computers somewhere that are more than a year old and are

    identical, with precisely the same configuration, software,

    hardware, etc., operated by similarly-skilled people. Somewhere.

     

    That Windows (or OSX, or Linux, etc.) does so well under these

    conditions is wonderful, a tribute to our collective ingenuity.

    Part of the reason is the feedback system - we call it beta.

    Linux, of course, is in perpetual beta, which is part of its

    attraction to those who seek the comfort of knowing things

    others don't. And one of the reasons it's such a poor solution

    is that so few make money at it.

     

    As mentioned, Vista works well for me. I think it works fine for

    most, and that those with problems look for solutions in such

    discussion groups as this, which has become a pit of discontent.

    And worse, advocates of other operating systems, or haters of

    Microsoft (but why? It's one of America's great successes!),

    gravitate to where their passions will be fed.

     

    Henry

    ....a view from seven decades of painful experience

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    I have been in computing since the 1950s (vacuum tubes, magnetic

    donut memory). For most of my years, everything in a system was

    made by one company - the computer, accessories, peripherals,

    software, etc., and that company trained operators, who were

    generally "programmers".

     

    For a computer to run today, it must be compatible with an

    astonishing spectrum of processors, mother boards, peripherals,

    and software made by diverse people and companies ranging from

    geniuses to incompetent, working in many different communication

    and programming languages. And to further complicate things,

    there are smart but emotionally troubled people who deliberately

    seek to screw up such systems with various sorts of malware!

     

    Today's users range from two years old up to my age, and I'm not

    certain which age group has more skills. There probably are two

    computers somewhere that are more than a year old and are

    identical, with precisely the same configuration, software,

    hardware, etc., operated by similarly-skilled people. Somewhere.

     

    That Windows (or OSX, or Linux, etc.) does so well under these

    conditions is wonderful, a tribute to our collective ingenuity.

    Part of the reason is the feedback system - we call it beta.

    Linux, of course, is in perpetual beta, which is part of its

    attraction to those who seek the comfort of knowing things

    others don't. And one of the reasons it's such a poor solution

    is that so few make money at it.

     

    As mentioned, Vista works well for me. I think it works fine for

    most, and that those with problems look for solutions in such

    discussion groups as this, which has become a pit of discontent.

    And worse, advocates of other operating systems, or haters of

    Microsoft (but why? It's one of America's great successes!),

    gravitate to where their passions will be fed.

     

    Henry

    ....a view from seven decades of painful experience

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    "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

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    > Frank wrote:

    >> Alias wrote:

    >>

    >>>

    >>> All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I call

    >>> Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

    >>

    >> Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

    >

    > False.

    >

    > Windows 95 had how many version updates? 3?

    >

    > Windows 98 and then Windows 98SE

    >

    > XP and SP2

    >

    > Ill informed drivel snipped.

    >

    > Alias

     

    WOW only 3 how many versions has UBUNTU had like 100 or so. Well maybe they

    will get it in about 20 or so years.

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    "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

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    > Frank wrote:

    >> Alias wrote:

    >>

    >>>

    >>> All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I call

    >>> Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

    >>

    >> Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

    >

    > False.

    >

    > Windows 95 had how many version updates? 3?

    >

    > Windows 98 and then Windows 98SE

    >

    > XP and SP2

    >

    > Ill informed drivel snipped.

    >

    > Alias

     

    WOW only 3 how many versions has UBUNTU had like 100 or so. Well maybe they

    will get it in about 20 or so years.

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    Go see the Chaplin and get you TS card punched or get a new crying towel.

     

     

    --

    Leo

     

    It is said that if you line up all the cars in the world end-to-end,

    someone would be stupid enough to try to pass them.

     

     

     

    "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

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    > Leo wrote:

    >> Count me among the many more running Vista with no problems.

    >>

    >

    > You're still top posting.

    >

    > Alias

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    Go see the Chaplin and get you TS card punched or get a new crying towel.

     

     

    --

    Leo

     

    It is said that if you line up all the cars in the world end-to-end,

    someone would be stupid enough to try to pass them.

     

     

     

    "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

    news:%23qY1mpuyHHA.5484@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    > Leo wrote:

    >> Count me among the many more running Vista with no problems.

    >>

    >

    > You're still top posting.

    >

    > Alias

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    you have your history wrong girl...

     

    wimp has an NT kernel and it was decided 9x kernel would die and be erased

    from the face of this earth because it was unstable and not good enough to

    fight linux and mac OS who were making fun of the crappy win9x kernel that

    had bad memory managment instability and security issues.

     

    In an act of desperation MS pulled out its "business" kernel and made if for

    all uses.

    The last NT os that was not for the masses was win2k

     

    Vista was supposed to be longhorn.. a new generation OS far ahead of XP...

    They scrapped most of longhorn because they would not finish it in 100 years

    at the rate they were going and and made a more "conventional" OS called

    vista..

    The REAL longhorn was never finalized... the reduced version of longhorn was

    continued and became vista..

     

    CRAPY STINKY OS VISTA!

     

     

    "KristleBawl" <kristlebawl@hotmail.com> wrote in message

    news:%23xoVrIvyHHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

    > Microsoft has a track record of supporting two or more versions of *home*

    > and two or more versions of NT-type Server/Client systems, all at the same

    > time. Vista was pushed because Win98SE is no longer supported, not XP!

    >

    > "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message

    > news:46a0df92$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> >but is *not* a replacement to Win XP

    >>

    >> Huh??? Not even for XP "home"??? lol.

    >>

    >> is that what you saw in your crystal ball?

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >> "KristleBawl" wrote in message...

    >>> What you two seem to forget is that Vista is designed for home use, not

    >>> app-intensive business networking, etc.

    >>>

    >>> Vista follows the Win95, Win98, WinME line, *not* the NT family of work

    >>> horse network client machines.

    >>>

    >>> It replaces Win98, WinME and earlier, but is *not* a replacement to Win

    >>> XP. It's another option, a choice.

    >>>

    >>> Geeks can fiddle around more with Linux, office networks run on a server

    >>> OS and NT-type clents, but the bells and whistles, the eye candy, and

    >>> the extra toys are aimed at ordinary consumers running Internet and

    >>> entertainment, and maybe word and calculator for the kids to do

    >>> homework. No one ever claimed it was the one sized fits all power users

    >>> OS of the future, just the "most secure version of Windows so far," as

    >>> long as you add a decent AV.

    >>>

    >>> Think about it! It's designed to protect the *naive* user from

    >>> "installing" something just by visiting a website advertised in a popup.

    >>>

    >>> Why would anyone with advanced experience expect it to be the same as

    >>> any other OS ever released? You need, want and expect something else, I

    >>> don't.

    >>>

    >>> I'll stick with Vista, thank you!

    >>>

    >>> "carl feredeck" wrote in message

    >>> news:46a0bd6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >>>>I back up your experience with mine and what you say is 100% correct!

    >>>> They are using it either for a very limited number of things or using

    >>>> it as decoration as you say. Other than that.. its a jungle out there

    >>>> and vista is falling apart!

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> "Adam Albright" wrote in message

    >>>>> My experience, people that claim they have no issues with Vista use

    >>>>> their computer for little more than a decoration on their desk. People

    >>>>> that actually use a computer in a serious work environment have

    >>>>> reported many verified issues with Vista.

    >

    >

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    you have your history wrong girl...

     

    wimp has an NT kernel and it was decided 9x kernel would die and be erased

    from the face of this earth because it was unstable and not good enough to

    fight linux and mac OS who were making fun of the crappy win9x kernel that

    had bad memory managment instability and security issues.

     

    In an act of desperation MS pulled out its "business" kernel and made if for

    all uses.

    The last NT os that was not for the masses was win2k

     

    Vista was supposed to be longhorn.. a new generation OS far ahead of XP...

    They scrapped most of longhorn because they would not finish it in 100 years

    at the rate they were going and and made a more "conventional" OS called

    vista..

    The REAL longhorn was never finalized... the reduced version of longhorn was

    continued and became vista..

     

    CRAPY STINKY OS VISTA!

     

     

    "KristleBawl" <kristlebawl@hotmail.com> wrote in message

    news:%23xoVrIvyHHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

    > Microsoft has a track record of supporting two or more versions of *home*

    > and two or more versions of NT-type Server/Client systems, all at the same

    > time. Vista was pushed because Win98SE is no longer supported, not XP!

    >

    > "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message

    > news:46a0df92$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> >but is *not* a replacement to Win XP

    >>

    >> Huh??? Not even for XP "home"??? lol.

    >>

    >> is that what you saw in your crystal ball?

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >> "KristleBawl" wrote in message...

    >>> What you two seem to forget is that Vista is designed for home use, not

    >>> app-intensive business networking, etc.

    >>>

    >>> Vista follows the Win95, Win98, WinME line, *not* the NT family of work

    >>> horse network client machines.

    >>>

    >>> It replaces Win98, WinME and earlier, but is *not* a replacement to Win

    >>> XP. It's another option, a choice.

    >>>

    >>> Geeks can fiddle around more with Linux, office networks run on a server

    >>> OS and NT-type clents, but the bells and whistles, the eye candy, and

    >>> the extra toys are aimed at ordinary consumers running Internet and

    >>> entertainment, and maybe word and calculator for the kids to do

    >>> homework. No one ever claimed it was the one sized fits all power users

    >>> OS of the future, just the "most secure version of Windows so far," as

    >>> long as you add a decent AV.

    >>>

    >>> Think about it! It's designed to protect the *naive* user from

    >>> "installing" something just by visiting a website advertised in a popup.

    >>>

    >>> Why would anyone with advanced experience expect it to be the same as

    >>> any other OS ever released? You need, want and expect something else, I

    >>> don't.

    >>>

    >>> I'll stick with Vista, thank you!

    >>>

    >>> "carl feredeck" wrote in message

    >>> news:46a0bd6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >>>>I back up your experience with mine and what you say is 100% correct!

    >>>> They are using it either for a very limited number of things or using

    >>>> it as decoration as you say. Other than that.. its a jungle out there

    >>>> and vista is falling apart!

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> "Adam Albright" wrote in message

    >>>>> My experience, people that claim they have no issues with Vista use

    >>>>> their computer for little more than a decoration on their desk. People

    >>>>> that actually use a computer in a serious work environment have

    >>>>> reported many verified issues with Vista.

    >

    >

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    On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:24:40 +0300, "carl feredeck"

    <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote:

    >you have your history wrong girl...

    >

    >wimp has an NT kernel and it was decided 9x kernel would die and be erased

    >from the face of this earth because it was unstable and not good enough to

    >fight linux and mac OS who were making fun of the crappy win9x kernel that

    >had bad memory managment instability and security issues.

    >

    >In an act of desperation MS pulled out its "business" kernel and made if for

    >all uses.

    >The last NT os that was not for the masses was win2k

    >

    >Vista was supposed to be longhorn.. a new generation OS far ahead of XP...

    >They scrapped most of longhorn because they would not finish it in 100 years

    >at the rate they were going and and made a more "conventional" OS called

    >vista..

    >The REAL longhorn was never finalized... the reduced version of longhorn was

    >continued and became vista..

     

    That's the Microsoft way. They start out with big pipe dreams, get

    started, try to keep going, run into problems, first one, then two,

    three, four years go by then they scale back and come out with some

    half-baked, watered down always broken version they dump on the

    public.

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    On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:24:40 +0300, "carl feredeck"

    <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote:

    >you have your history wrong girl...

    >

    >wimp has an NT kernel and it was decided 9x kernel would die and be erased

    >from the face of this earth because it was unstable and not good enough to

    >fight linux and mac OS who were making fun of the crappy win9x kernel that

    >had bad memory managment instability and security issues.

    >

    >In an act of desperation MS pulled out its "business" kernel and made if for

    >all uses.

    >The last NT os that was not for the masses was win2k

    >

    >Vista was supposed to be longhorn.. a new generation OS far ahead of XP...

    >They scrapped most of longhorn because they would not finish it in 100 years

    >at the rate they were going and and made a more "conventional" OS called

    >vista..

    >The REAL longhorn was never finalized... the reduced version of longhorn was

    >continued and became vista..

     

    That's the Microsoft way. They start out with big pipe dreams, get

    started, try to keep going, run into problems, first one, then two,

    three, four years go by then they scale back and come out with some

    half-baked, watered down always broken version they dump on the

    public.

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    Gary wrote:

    > "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

    > news:Oi3JbtuyHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    >> Frank wrote:

    >>> Alias wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I call

    >>>> Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

    >>> Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

    >> False.

    >>

    >> Windows 95 had how many version updates? 3?

    >>

    >> Windows 98 and then Windows 98SE

    >>

    >> XP and SP2

    >>

    >> Ill informed drivel snipped.

    >>

    >> Alias

    >

    > WOW only 3 how many versions has UBUNTU had like 100 or so. Well maybe they

    > will get it in about 20 or so years.

    >

    >

     

    LOL! Not the same thing, sorry.

     

    Alias

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    Gary wrote:

    > "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

    > news:Oi3JbtuyHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    >> Frank wrote:

    >>> Alias wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I call

    >>>> Public Beta before they were ready for prime time.

    >>> Nope, totally wrong analogy. Completely off base.

    >> False.

    >>

    >> Windows 95 had how many version updates? 3?

    >>

    >> Windows 98 and then Windows 98SE

    >>

    >> XP and SP2

    >>

    >> Ill informed drivel snipped.

    >>

    >> Alias

    >

    > WOW only 3 how many versions has UBUNTU had like 100 or so. Well maybe they

    > will get it in about 20 or so years.

    >

    >

     

    LOL! Not the same thing, sorry.

     

    Alias

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    On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:59:06 -0700, Frank wrote:

    > ray wrote:

    >

    >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:59:31 -0700, Henry wrote:

    >>

    >>

    >>>Really!

    >>>No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works

    >>>perfectly including my old custom stuff from W95 days. Speed is

    >>>about the same as XP. Vista repairs itself, defrags the drive,

    >>>protects my work, solves problems on its own. The sidebar has

    >>>seriously useful gadgets that make life easier. Files and

    >>>folders are now easier to find, in any of several ways.

    >>>

    >>>I came by looking for more joy, gadgets, exploitation stories,

    >>>and high fives -- and learned that people happy with Vista don't

    >>>waste time here. That leaves the rest...

    >>

    >>

    >> I'm glad it works for you. Judging by the volume you may be in the

    >> minority.

    >>

    >

    > Only if you can't count!

    > Frank

     

    Come on frankie, don't get your panties in a twist. I said he/she 'may be

    in the minority' - if you can prove otherwise, I'd be interested to see it.

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    On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:59:06 -0700, Frank wrote:

    > ray wrote:

    >

    >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:59:31 -0700, Henry wrote:

    >>

    >>

    >>>Really!

    >>>No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works

    >>>perfectly including my old custom stuff from W95 days. Speed is

    >>>about the same as XP. Vista repairs itself, defrags the drive,

    >>>protects my work, solves problems on its own. The sidebar has

    >>>seriously useful gadgets that make life easier. Files and

    >>>folders are now easier to find, in any of several ways.

    >>>

    >>>I came by looking for more joy, gadgets, exploitation stories,

    >>>and high fives -- and learned that people happy with Vista don't

    >>>waste time here. That leaves the rest...

    >>

    >>

    >> I'm glad it works for you. Judging by the volume you may be in the

    >> minority.

    >>

    >

    > Only if you can't count!

    > Frank

     

    Come on frankie, don't get your panties in a twist. I said he/she 'may be

    in the minority' - if you can prove otherwise, I'd be interested to see it.

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    Henry:

     

    I hope you hang around for a while. This forum needs a little sanity and it

    seems you can provide it.

     

     

    "Henry" <not@all.com> wrote in message

    news:f7r48b$sj6$1@registered.motzarella.org...

    >I have been in computing since the 1950s (vacuum tubes, magnetic donut

    >memory). For most of my years, everything in a system was made by one

    >company - the computer, accessories, peripherals, software, etc., and that

    >company trained operators, who were generally "programmers".

    >

    > For a computer to run today, it must be compatible with an astonishing

    > spectrum of processors, mother boards, peripherals, and software made by

    > diverse people and companies ranging from geniuses to incompetent, working

    > in many different communication and programming languages. And to further

    > complicate things, there are smart but emotionally troubled people who

    > deliberately seek to screw up such systems with various sorts of malware!

    >

    > Today's users range from two years old up to my age, and I'm not certain

    > which age group has more skills. There probably are two computers

    > somewhere that are more than a year old and are identical, with precisely

    > the same configuration, software, hardware, etc., operated by

    > similarly-skilled people. Somewhere.

    >

    > That Windows (or OSX, or Linux, etc.) does so well under these conditions

    > is wonderful, a tribute to our collective ingenuity. Part of the reason is

    > the feedback system - we call it beta. Linux, of course, is in perpetual

    > beta, which is part of its attraction to those who seek the comfort of

    > knowing things others don't. And one of the reasons it's such a poor

    > solution is that so few make money at it.

    >

    > As mentioned, Vista works well for me. I think it works fine for most, and

    > that those with problems look for solutions in such discussion groups as

    > this, which has become a pit of discontent. And worse, advocates of other

    > operating systems, or haters of Microsoft (but why? It's one of America's

    > great successes!), gravitate to where their passions will be fed.

    >

    > Henry

    > ...a view from seven decades of painful experience

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