Frank wrote:

> Canuck57 wrote:

>> "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message

>> news:QdidnR2739Qwtp_VnZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@supernews.com...

>>

>>>"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

>>>news:%23MsPsxXnIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>>>Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

>>>>>properties right away?

>>>

>>>>LOL

>>>>

>>>>You have made a good point there

>>>

>>>The only point is that someone is clueless. Both XP and Vista take 3

>>>clicks from the desktop to get to the display properties "right away".

>>

>>

>> I tried it.

>>

>> Yep, 3 clicks each. However Vista was noticeably slower even though

>> the hardware is much newer and faster.

>>

>>

> I thought you said you got rid of Vista that was on your wife's laptop.

> So why are you here?

> Frank

 

Why not? Aren't people that have been unhappy with their Vista

experience allowed to post here?

 

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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>

> It's not an excuse, it was the reality back then. I'm sorry for you that

> you don't like History as it really was, but that's your problem, not

> mine, or anyone else's.

>

>

 

Well you are obviously not on the same planet as the rest of humanity.

I worked as a Systems Accountant from 1986 to 2005, and we ALWAYS purchased

what WE wanted on our computers. We NEVER bought an OS that was NOT

specified by US.

Go and live in the REAL world for a while.

 

IDIOT.

"laugh at fanboy in the box" <terra@mas.mar> wrote in message

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> you mr clamshell are clueless

>

> let me ask you this

>

> on xp you are in display properties and with the tabs you can switch with

> one click to go to themes, screensavers, desktop(wallpaper), but in VISTA

> CRAPISTA you have to close the window and open another from that horrid

> list of items that makes you wanna puke..

>

>

 

Then go and puke you cretin. The personalise window opens, you click on a

link, and guess what? ANOTHER WINDOW OPENS!!!! You close that and hey

presto! YOU ARE BACK TO THE PERSONALIZE WINDOW!

So how is that worse than tabs?

 

CRETIN

You dont know how to count do you moron?

 

Is not closing a window a click? or do you close the window telepathically

 

moron loser vista lover idiot frank yank wannabie spanky monkey follower and

bill yanaire iq equivalent

 

 

"Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message

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> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

> news:SKsMj.12099$vd4.9572@fe80.usenetserver.com...

>>

>> Are you guys done with your line jerk?

>>

>> From the initial Personalize page you can't change one setting. You've

>> gotta do some more clicking

>

> Yes - ONE click.

> Just like in XP.

>

> IDIOT.

"Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message

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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fttho1$ffo$1@aioe.org...

>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Most home users hated the Windows Fax program, preferring BVRP or

>>>> WinFax (Pro)

>>>

>>> False. I've been using it since 02 and it works great, no problems

>>> whatsoever.

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Microsoft don't want you to pay out for anything. It is not in their

>>>> interests. And the only program feature missing for the 'novice' user

>>>> is the most hated of all integrated Windows mini-apps, Windows Fax

>>>> which, incidentally, was NOT installed by default Windows 9x variants.

>>>> In fact, many never even knew it was on the Win 9x CD..

>>>

>>> Before XP, I used Windows 2000 fax and before that 98 and 95 fax. All

>>> worked wonderfully, although XP's is better than the others.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> It's false because you used it? Ha

>>

>

> I like it. You don't. Do you even use a fax for anything, Mike? I use it

> every day.

>

> Alias

 

 

Where did I say 'I' didn't like it?

 

--

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How to construct a good post..

http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

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Gordon wrote:

> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message

> news:8dpMj.177937$pM4.80377@pd7urf1no...

>

>> XP is a better system for a production - business critical use.

>

>

> Can you elaborate? As a retired Systems Accountant I find NO DIFFERENCE

> in "productivity" between XP and Vista. Users just use Office in both

> OS's - it's NOT the Users's job to mess with the OS.

 

He's just a disgruntled, former Vista user.

Frank

>

>> That is also why business adoption of Vista is near zero.

>

>

> As a Systems Accountant again, Vista has been out for just over a year.

> Many large corporations are now upgrading machines on a four year cycle

> as opposed to three and many just haven't reached the replacement date.

>

>> And it is likely business is going to skip Vista altogether like it

>> did with WinMe.

>

>

> ME was not an NT-based OS - businesses went straight from W98 to Windows

> 2000. That's why it was skipped. The fact that it was an awful OS is

> nothing to do with it...

>

You still dont get it do you? lol

 

Ok lets all go back to IE6 that had no tabs, you click on ie6 icon in the

quicklanuch , new window opens.

Lol.. what a loser..

 

apparently you have no clue just how many people have complained about this

stupid change do you...?

 

No.. because you like reading only what tickles your vista luvin ears.

 

 

 

"Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message

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> "laugh at fanboy in the box" <terra@mas.mar> wrote in message

> news:48025d29$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>> you mr clamshell are clueless

>>

>> let me ask you this

>>

>> on xp you are in display properties and with the tabs you can switch with

>> one click to go to themes, screensavers, desktop(wallpaper), but in VISTA

>> CRAPISTA you have to close the window and open another from that horrid

>> list of items that makes you wanna puke..

>>

>>

>

> Then go and puke you cretin. The personalise window opens, you click on a

> link, and guess what? ANOTHER WINDOW OPENS!!!! You close that and hey

> presto! YOU ARE BACK TO THE PERSONALIZE WINDOW!

> So how is that worse than tabs?

>

> CRETIN

Gordon wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

> message news:SKsMj.12099$vd4.9572@fe80.usenetserver.com...

>>

>> Are you guys done with your line jerk?

>>

>> From the initial Personalize page you can't change one setting. You've

>> gotta do some more clicking

>

> Yes - ONE click.

> Just like in XP.

>

> IDIOT.

 

Nope. Right from the intial tab of Display Properties, I start changing

settings, liar.

 

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

XP IS better in every way.

 

Vista is clearly the windowsMe of NT.

 

 

 

"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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> Sam wrote:

>

>> If I didn't know better, I'd say you were an MS hater looking for

>> reasons to hate Vista. I mean honestly, 1 extra click from XP? Is that

>> really so bad?

>

> Yeah. When older is easier, why would I want to change?

>

>

>> Is it too hard for you to figure out?

>

> No. I have no problems figuring it out. But when tasks become more

> difficult instead of easier, it that a good change or a bad change?

>

> To me, ease of use is more important than eye candy changes.

>

> For you, you might prefer all the bells, whistle, and flashy lights

> rather than ease of use. Some people like to get whipped too.

>

> --

> Peace!

> Kurt

> Former Self-anointed Moderator

> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea

> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

>

Gordon wrote:

> "laugh at fanboy in the box" <terra@mas.mar> wrote in message

> news:48025d29$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>> you mr clamshell are clueless

>>

>> let me ask you this

>>

>> on xp you are in display properties and with the tabs you can switch

>> with one click to go to themes, screensavers, desktop(wallpaper), but

>> in VISTA CRAPISTA you have to close the window and open another from

>> that horrid list of items that makes you wanna puke..

>>

>>

>>

> Then go and puke you cretin. The personalise window opens, you click on

> a link, and guess what? ANOTHER WINDOW OPENS!!!! You close that and hey

> presto! YOU ARE BACK TO THE PERSONALIZE WINDOW! So how is that worse

> than tabs?

>

> CRETIN

 

I don't have to close that extra window.

 

Ooops! Reality is biting your ass again.

 

 

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Kurt

Former Self-anointed Moderator

microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea

"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

you are known for being preprogramed by the borg queen to luv vista.

 

Any resistance on your part is futile.

 

You are shown the truth, you pass it by like the borg do, things that dont

interest them at the moment.

 

You also have the humor of a borg.. NOT!

Borgs dont smile.

 

 

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message

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> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fttl1l$v32$2@aioe.org...

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fttho1$ffo$1@aioe.org...

>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Most home users hated the Windows Fax program, preferring BVRP or

>>>>> WinFax (Pro)

>>>>

>>>> False. I've been using it since 02 and it works great, no problems

>>>> whatsoever.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Microsoft don't want you to pay out for anything. It is not in their

>>>>> interests. And the only program feature missing for the 'novice' user

>>>>> is the most hated of all integrated Windows mini-apps, Windows Fax

>>>>> which, incidentally, was NOT installed by default Windows 9x variants.

>>>>> In fact, many never even knew it was on the Win 9x CD..

>>>>

>>>> Before XP, I used Windows 2000 fax and before that 98 and 95 fax. All

>>>> worked wonderfully, although XP's is better than the others.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>>

>>> It's false because you used it? Ha

>>>

>>

>> I like it. You don't. Do you even use a fax for anything, Mike? I use it

>> every day.

>>

>> Alias

>

>

> Where did I say 'I' didn't like it?

>

> --

> Mike Hall - MVP

> How to construct a good post..

> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

> Mike's Window - My Blog..

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>

>

>

>

he needs a click-o-meter on his mouse in order to help him count to 2...

 

The average IQ of vista-fans is down the drain... my GOD!

 

"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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> Gordon wrote:

>

>> "laugh at fanboy in the box" <terra@mas.mar> wrote in message

>> news:48025d29$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>> you mr clamshell are clueless

>>>

>>> let me ask you this

>>>

>>> on xp you are in display properties and with the tabs you can switch

>>> with one click to go to themes, screensavers, desktop(wallpaper), but

>>> in VISTA CRAPISTA you have to close the window and open another from

>>> that horrid list of items that makes you wanna puke..

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> Then go and puke you cretin. The personalise window opens, you click on

>> a link, and guess what? ANOTHER WINDOW OPENS!!!! You close that and hey

>> presto! YOU ARE BACK TO THE PERSONALIZE WINDOW! So how is that worse

>> than tabs?

>>

>> CRETIN

>

> I don't have to close that extra window.

>

> Ooops! Reality is biting your ass again.

>

>

> --

> Peace!

> Kurt

> Former Self-anointed Moderator

> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea

> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

>

with time.. only frank will be left alone in here preaching how great vista

is..

 

wait.. we better check the windowsMe newsgroup if frank is in there still

preaching that windowsMe is the best OS ever made.. .lol

 

what a loser, what a dork, what a moron!

 

 

"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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> Frank wrote:

>

>> Canuck57 wrote:

>>> "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message

>>> news:QdidnR2739Qwtp_VnZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@supernews.com...

>>>

>>>>"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

>>>>news:%23MsPsxXnIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>>>Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

>>>>>>properties right away?

>>>>

>>>>>LOL

>>>>>

>>>>>You have made a good point there

>>>>

>>>>The only point is that someone is clueless. Both XP and Vista take 3

>>>>clicks from the desktop to get to the display properties "right away".

>>>

>>>

>>> I tried it.

>>>

>>> Yep, 3 clicks each. However Vista was noticeably slower even though

>>> the hardware is much newer and faster.

>>>

>>>

>> I thought you said you got rid of Vista that was on your wife's laptop.

>> So why are you here?

>> Frank

>

> Why not? Aren't people that have been unhappy with their Vista

> experience allowed to post here?

>

> --

> Peace!

> Kurt

> Former Self-anointed Moderator

> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea

> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

>

WRONG classic has worse performance than aero.

The only way Classic would be faster on vista would be if you have a pc

that does not support glass aero.

 

Classic in vista lacks the drawing acceleration windowsXP and all prior

windows version had. Thats why vista in classic mode draws windows like a

slow snail stuck in poop.

With aero turned on the drawing is accelerated by the new acceleration

model,

that includes using the display adaptor GPU to draw elements.

 

The classic is not for making vista faster, that tip is wrong and stupid.

What it can do is make the interface clearer with lest fancy distracting

colors and elements.

 

More like something you would use in an office.

 

Get the facts strait, and the most important fact of all is that Vista is

Crap.

 

 

 

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

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>

> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message

> news:_NpMj.177973$pM4.114160@pd7urf1no...

>>

>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

>> news:usKK9TXnIHA.4292@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

>>>>I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded.

>>>>If I

>>>> had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there

>>>> was

>>>> anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if

>>>> it

>>>> didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be

>>>> for

>>>> computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>>>>

>>>> I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>>>>

>>>> The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our

>>>> computers

>>>> and I understand why.

>>>>

>>>> Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>>>

>>> Though Vista might still have a few bugs left...

>>> and though you may have to use a 3rd party fax program...

>>

>> More than a few.

>>

>>> Vista is certainly no more complicated to use than XP.

>>

>> Depends on a few factors.

>>

>>> Other than having a few additional features that you may or may not

>>> like...

>>> the gui looks and operates the same way as XP

>>

>> If one spends the time and customizes it. It is quite different out of

>> the box. If for say they were used to classic, they would need to change

>> it back to classic. There is also the issue that stuff seems to have

>> moved around quite a bit. There is a learning curve in there.

>>

>> As for features, the only one I can think of is gadgets. But really not

>> a big deal. Glass/aero gets dry after the flash and awe wears off, which

>> was pretty quick for me. It is XP but has put on 500 pounds.

>>

>

>

> Yes...the first thing I did when I was testing Vista was turn the GUI

> right back to Windows classic

> and set the system for best performance.

>

>

>

Gordon wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

> message news:hHsMj.12097$vd4.2422@fe80.usenetserver.com...

>> There is no "Graphics Properties-Display Settings" when right clicking

>> on the Desktop that is a default part of Vista.

>>

>>

> Well there is in MY "default" Vista. Thanks for exhibiting your

> ignorance....

 

Your ignorance or purposeful lie.

 

My guess is ignorance. I suspect that "Graphics Properties-Display

Settings" was added by your video driver, as Personalize is the default

in Vista.

 

But ignore reality. It seems to be something you are very good at.

 

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

Gordon wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

> message news:jOsMj.12100$vd4.3974@fe80.usenetserver.com...

>>

>> It's not an excuse, it was the reality back then. I'm sorry for you

>> that you don't like History as it really was, but that's your problem,

>> not mine, or anyone else's.

>>

>>

>>

> Well you are obviously not on the same planet as the rest of humanity. I

> worked as a Systems Accountant from 1986 to 2005, and we ALWAYS

> purchased what WE wanted on our computers. We NEVER bought an OS that

> was NOT specified by US.

> Go and live in the REAL world for a while.

>

> IDIOT.

 

The only idiot is you, who doesn't seem to have any knowledge about how

small businesses operate.

 

The ones I worked with usually bought there computer off the self from a

retail computer store around the turn of the century, just like home

users at the time.

 

But hey. I'm sure you think you know better.

 

Ignorance is Bliss, and you seem to be very blissful wallowing in it.

 

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"laugh at fanboy in the box" <terra@mas.mar> wrote in message

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> WRONG classic has worse performance than aero.

> The only way Classic would be faster on vista would be if you have a pc

> that does not support glass aero.

>

 

 

 

The machines I tested Vista on ...the video cards were too low end to run

aero.

 

In the classic mode, with the system set for best performance...

Vista ran a little slower but fairly close to the same machines running XP

 

<the rest was snipped>

laugh at idiot who can't get Vista to run properly wrote:

> you are known for being preprogramed by the borg queen to luv vista.

 

You are known for being an idiot!

Frank

idiot in the box wrote:

-----------------------------------

 

Forget to take your meds today cc?...LOL!

Frank

laugh at the idiot moron loser in the box wrote:

 

----------------------------------------------

 

Are you really as stupid as you appear to be?

Frank

laugh at the moron who knows nothing in the box wrote:

> XP IS better in every way.

 

Nope...it isn't!

You don't know what you're talking about.

>

> Vista is clearly the windowsMe of NT.

 

Nope, not even close...LOL!

Frank

>

laugh at the idiot loser in the box wrote:

 

 

--------------------------------------------

 

Ahhhh...what's cc? Can't figure out how to properly run Vista? Are you

that stupid?...LOL!

Figures!

Frank

laugh at the bozo loser in the box wrote:

> with time.. only frank will be left alone in here preaching how great vista

> is..

>

You only express your frustration with your own incompetence concerning

computers and Vista.

Hey, face it cc, you are just a real stupid, idiot loser...LOL!

Frank

> You are known for being an idiot!

 

And look who is saying this? Lol the biggest moron that has ever set foot on

the vista.general newsgroup! lol

 

What's the matter franky poo? Oh.. you are not a borg dont worry, the borg

only assimilate intelligent creatures,

tree swinging monkeys like you are safe. You have nothing to fear.. well

there are some things

that are scary.. just don't look into a mirror or shiny surface.

 

 

"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message

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> laugh at idiot who can't get Vista to run properly wrote:

>

>> you are known for being preprogramed by the borg queen to luv vista.

>

> You are known for being an idiot!

> Frank

yeah sure...

 

whatever you say franky poo, your nurse told me not to upset you today

 

 

"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message

news:e1y9iOanIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> laugh at the bozo loser in the box wrote:

>

>> with time.. only frank will be left alone in here preaching how great

>> vista is..

>>

> You only express your frustration with your own incompetence concerning

> computers and Vista.

> Hey, face it cc, you are just a real stupid, idiot loser...LOL!

> Frank